The Allison Wonderland

Kudos To the Phalen backers.

Won’t steer (wheel lock) cements it for me.

don’t work on your fade = away from golf 
no Need to wade = not near water

go long could mean as in football, but I think “drag on” is a decent approximation - as in the dragon garden I was already at today!!! Oof 

Here is the new clue

Clue #10
The hunt can go long, but we won't steer you wrong
We try to stay direct and dignified.
There's no need to wade, or work on your fade
As you dig a month of snow outside.

And the previous clues:

Clue #9
I entered at night, and could see an arched light
And fields where children playeth
If you want exact location, well, that's not my vocation
Where it is? I'll no saith

Clue #8
Not with cape, but maybe rake, A hero, by another name, With studious guys, searched for the prize
And up north the puck did claim.
Clue #7
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

Clue #6
Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle
Defend your liberties and rights
Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold
By keeping the prize in your sights

Clue #5
Have you the right stuff to seek diamond in rough?
Then scrounge through stick and cone
If you want a big thrill look for a hill
To spy a treasure to own

Clue #4
If treasure's your mark, take a waltz in the park
Be ready to meet your match
Strap on your glove, look up above
For an object ripe for the catch

Clue #3
A bomb cyclone hit our wintry zone On the chin, buckling our knees Get up at your leisure to seek our fine treasure Find fortune and live life of ease

Clue #2
Descend from your perch, set out to search
East Side, west side, all around the town
Glory will reign when you find the chain
To go with your cap and gown

Clue #1
The viral pandemic is now endemic And the battle’s on for Ukraine Take a break from the news to follow your muse
And tackle these rhymes with your brain

The hunt can go long, but we won’t steer you wrong
We try to stay direct and dignified.
There’s no need to wade, or to work on your fade
As you dig a month of snow outside.

Is it odd or brilliant? Have to do something these days to keep absolutely everyone from saying, "Oh yea, that's Phelen!" So instead make a reference to the first place he lived. Likewise I'm leaning towards thinking last night's clue might have been about the 1992 ice palace just to make us think about the 1986 ice palace monument. Or maybe I sound to all of you like what some people sound like to me. lol
David

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:49:42 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

Well said. And yes I think the River center ramp is on or nearly on the site.

Ive thought it had to be that for a bit- my only trepidation is that it seems odd to reference the location of an event that happened so far from where the clue is supposedly sending us. 

Well said. And yes I think the River center ramp is on or nearly on the site.

Ive thought it had to be that for a bit- my only trepidation is that it seems odd to reference the location of an event that happened so far from where the clue is supposedly sending us. 

Freddie Mercury (Car) goes far, still fits this clue better than Phalen...but, I am never right. Which leads us to Queen and Victoria.
Queen Lyrics
"We Will Rock You"

Buddy you're a boy make a big noise
Playin' in the street gonna be a big man some day
You got mud on yo' face
You big disgrace
Kickin' your can all over the place
Singin'

We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're a young man hard man
Shoutin' in the street gonna take on the world some day
You got blood on yo' face
You big disgrace
Wavin' your banner all over the place

We will we will rock you
(Sing it out!)
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're an old man poor man
Pleadin' with your eyes gonna make you some peace some day
You got mud on your face
Big disgrace
Somebody better put you back into your place

We will we will rock you
(Sing it!)
We will we will rock you

(Everybody)

We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you

(Alright)
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:35:47 PM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland@...> wrote:

Here is Clue 7 exactly:
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

And then here is a story about Edward Phelen: St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost
Was Phelen a big star? He was one of the earliest non-native residents of St. Paul. He was elected as a delegate to the MN Territorial Convention. 
Does his name go far? Phalen Creek goes far enough.
Phalen's initial land that he shared with John Hays stretched from Eagle St. to Robert St. That is where the murder allegedly took place and I believe there is indeed parking there right now.
10 years after being accused of murder, Phelen was charged with perjury (lying), thus becoming a disgrace.
Consequently he left town (and was killed by his travelling companions).
St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost

On September 27, 1839, Dakota boys found a body washed up under Dayton’s Bluff, near Carver’s Cave (Wakan Tipi).

David B. Allison

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:13:33 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.

 

Oh big disgrace -- Hershel street leads u right too it!! JH


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Here is Clue 7 exactly:
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

And then here is a story about Edward Phelen: St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost
Was Phelen a big star? He was one of the earliest non-native residents of St. Paul. He was elected as a delegate to the MN Territorial Convention. 
Does his name go far? Phalen Creek goes far enough.
Phalen's initial land that he shared with John Hays stretched from Eagle St. to Robert St. That is where the murder allegedly took place and I believe there is indeed parking there right now.
10 years after being accused of murder, Phelen was charged with perjury (lying), thus becoming a disgrace.
Consequently he left town (and was killed by his travelling companions).
St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost

On September 27, 1839, Dakota boys found a body washed up under Dayton’s Bluff, near Carver’s Cave (Wakan Tipi).

David B. Allison

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:13:33 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.

 

Oh this is exhausting. Lets see what tonight clue says.. I am stcuk on Merriam-- 
Two large sledding hills tennis court (match) It starts right up to fairview, which if you have ever been to a Soccer game - Its where one must park. Studious school of course Battle - Only neighbor hood to win the 94 war! Rondo loss - Midway loss- Merriam stood strong in the battle. lets see it is 35E - 94west North North (or something like that (Sorry i am directional challenge) two very large hills chains on the lotBig storm ?yep large Tree knocked down last year. 
I know so many ways to go -- I have been seatching for 25 years ! Please can i just see it? 
Ugh exhausted! And it is really cold! 
Joanne needs to touch the silver & gold 

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If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.

 

I think the "killing it" reference in Clue 7 fits Central.  Just west of Victoria there are two parking lots - one of which is very near a volleyball court.  The reference may fit Como too.  Trying to remember if there are any courts adjacent to parking lots in the picnic grounds area...

TNT yes it was in the park at the parking lot by what's como town

If you want to go down a deep rabbit hole, T Eugene Thompson, the famous attorney who had his wife killed lived on Hillcrest Ave. in Highland Park. He went to prison, got out, and moved to a condo in Roseville. No......it wasn't by Central Park, it was on Midland Grove Road over by Co B and Cleveland.  Sorry for the rabbit hole.  Yeesh.........

I cant let it go... yet - lol. 

There is story of Fred Barker killing a man at (or near) Como Park. Barker was transferring into a getaway car he had parked at Como Park and killed a man who looked at him. One article I read seemed to indicate it was in the actual park, otherwise it is more vague but was definitely on Midway Parkway. 

I also felt Phalen had some interesting areas that fit. I wondered if Chin was short for Chinese. Phalen has that Oriental monument on the northern side. It also is part of a chain of lakes..

Fox 9 was at Battle Creek today. Does that mean it is there or has history proved to us that when the news shows up in the park, it is the kiss of death (it is not there)?

I agree with the big star and have been rather hung up on that but have decided to let it go lol.
I believe one of his cabins was located in what is now the Xcel Energy parking lot.

Clue 7 is tripping me up for Phalen. I feel the clue implies this person was born with a big name that would take him far - Phalen doesn't fit that. He also wouldn't kill it down where they park the car - assuming they are talking about him killing his buddy. There were no cars when Phalen was around.

Here is a link that talks about the 7 hills, actually 13 were in contention. All closer to downtown. 
https://www.minnpost.com/stroll/2015/08/st-pauls-7-hills-6-contenders-vie-last-2-spots/

I want to mention both Central Park and Como have Churchhill Streets on both of their parks. Como has at least 3 arched bridges. I would think they have lights on them. It also has hills galore. I know because I dug at most of them. I did not make it to Central. I spent 3 days at Como till I had the smash and grab incident Saturday at the Pavilion. My window will not be fixed till next week so my hunting is over. I wish all the best for everyone in this group. I still think it is at Como and there is a lot of snow that was not touched. This has been a brainteaser of a hunt for everyone!