General Politics

So you know what was in Jefferson's mind by ignoring what he actually wrote?

You mean like ignoring that he wrote "that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate would be oppression."?

no, that would be you.

You quite obviously are on the side of oppression.

I'm an opppressed minority crabgrass. I demand that you as a white male lead me to the land of the majority.

you are mearly a dumbass, Torpedo

Yet another 1 minute response. TFF.....You claim not to want to talk to me but wait all day for me to show up. Seek help for your obsession.

You claim not to want to talk to me

no, that would be you...

"Stop talking to me crabgrass" - Torpedo-8

and yet here you are trying your best to talk to me.

but wait all day for me to show up

the funny thing is, I'll bet you actually believe this

Torpedo is an endless source of compelling comments. Everyone here waits days to read them.

Tell us about your jetski, torpedo.

Sure, as soon as you tell us how you became a typical elitist prick from the Twin Cities area.

cry Fold cry

WASHINGTON -- Twelve years ago at a Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, Sen. Patrick Leahy propounded a theoretical question about constitutional separation of church and state. "I prefer not to address a question like that," replied the Supreme Court nominee, Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Leahy, a dogged questioner, pressed for an answer. "Senator," Ginsburg persisted, "I would prefer to await a particular case." In response, Leahy was uncharacteristically obsequious: "I understand. Just trying, Judge. Just trying." 

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20050725.shtml

Americans, particularly our most vulnerable Americans, need the protection of law. This is why we need great conservative judges.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/StarParker/sp20050725.shtml

BOSTON Â— For weeks, speculation has mounted over what Gov. Mitt Romney, who's contemplating a 2008 presidential run, would do with a bill expanding access to emergency contraception.

Romney dispelled that uncertainty on Monday, as he returned to Massachusetts from vacation to veto the legislation just hours after it landed on his desk. 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163642,00.html

In the last few weeks, innocent men, women and children have been blown up, paralyzed, brain damaged and otherwise had their lives ruined by Muslim suicide bombers in Britain, Egypt and Iraq.

Who can we thank for this man-made plague? Palestinians and the Left.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20050726.shtml

How important are a judge's views? The great Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes did not hesitate to express his views. In the case of Abrams v. United States, Holmes referred to the beliefs of the people on one side as "a creed which I believe to be the creed of ignorance and immaturity."

 But that was the side he voted for. He understood the difference between his views and the law of the land. Too many other judges, too many politicians, and too many in the media, do not.

 Justice Clarence Thomas has likewise expressed views contrary to the views of the side he voted for, both on the Circuit Court of Appeals and on the Supreme Court. He too understands that he is not there to impose whatever policy he prefers but, in Holmes' words, "to see that the game is played according to the rules whether I like them or not."

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050726.shtml

WASHINGTON Â— The legal right to abortion is settled for lower courts, but the Supreme Court "is not obliged to follow" the Roe v. Wade precedent, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Tuesday as the Senate prepared to consider John Roberts' appointment that would put a new vote on the high court. 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163759,00.html

I guess it's like The Bible, in that you can make it say anything you WANT it to say.

Only a dishonest person believes the above. You believe it don't you, fold?

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The number two Democrat in the Senate said Sunday that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' views on abortions could halt his nomination to the high court. Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin's remarks appear to indicate he will make abortion a litmus test for his confirmation vote.

Durbin told NBC's "Meet the Press" that if Roberts doesn't recognize a right to abortion during questioning by the Senate Judiciary Committee, Roberts would "disqualify" himself from getting Durbin's vote.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat1474.html

Liberals are so dishonest. They say they want independent judges but then they demand a litmus test.

jethro, I believe that you oppose abortion, and that your opposition has a religious basis. Where in the bible does it say that life begins at conception?

I believe bodine's political belief system is his religious belief system.

But is it desirable?

I don't know why not. Conservatives accuse liberals (accurately) of being unable to separate emotion from reason. Isn't the ability to do so important?

In law you don't talk about what is moral, you talk about what is legal.

And if you can't do that, you're in league with the Taliban. They can't do it, either.

How can you say that? Why not?

You're doing a job.

"So you're supposed to throw it away?"

No

"Do you really think you can separate yourself from your faith? "

It may be necessary sometimes.

It's done every day, unless you live like the Amish.

jethro, I believe that you oppose abortion, (true) and that your opposition has a religious basis (not true. my opposition is based on logic and human decency).Where in the bible does it say that life begins at conception? You attempt to label my viewpoint as being based on religion and then you attempt to dismiss with an offbase interpretation of the first amendment. It is your inherent dishonesty that makes you do this.

In law you don't talk about what is moral, you talk about what is legal.

wrong! law is morality based.

"Do you really think you can separate yourself from your faith? "

It may be necessary sometimes.

apparently the rat has no faith.

"law is morality based."

If that's the case wouldn't everything that is immoral be illegal?

It was that way in Afghanistan.

"apparently the rat has no faith."

You need to have faith to be an official Bush Administration Heart Changer, you know. I was a Heart Changer,
until they fired me
. But it wasn't because I lacked faith.

You attempt to label my viewpoint as being based on religion and then you attempt to dismiss with an offbase interpretation of the first amendment. It is your inherent dishonesty that makes you do this.

I asked you a question in an attempt to begin a discussion. I should have known better.
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wrong! law is morality based.

wrong.

higher law is morality based... common law is not.

If that's the case wouldn't everything that is immoral be illegal?

when the immoral, such as liberals make laws, it isn't the case. But seriously all laws are made on the basis that something is right or something is wrong. Pickup the Minnesota Statutes and you'll see that thread throughout.

a dumb shit wrote: higher law is morality based... common law is not.

You need to have faith to be an official Bush Administration Heart Changer, you know. I was a Heart Changer,
until they fired me
. But it wasn't because I lacked faith.

I am not sure waht this means. Did you have a brain fart, rat? 

You weren't around when I was working for the Bush Administration as a Heart Changer.

I changed hearts out the wazoo.

 

You attempt to label my viewpoint as being based on religion and then you attempt to dismiss with an offbase interpretation of the first amendment. It is your inherent dishonesty that makes you do this.

I asked you a question in an attempt to begin a discussion. I should have known better.
<plonk

This post, pieter was as dishonest as your first.  You did not intend to start a discussion.  Because if you that is what you wanted you would have phrased the point differently. Your first post was simply an attempt to set yourself  up for the usual left wing accusations. Anyone can see that. 

I changed hearts out the wazoo.

I'm not on the payroll anymore so I won't ask you to change yours. But there's good money in it, if you're interested. They pay on commission.

You have to take the Civil Service test, but that's a snap.

I also wonder if they promote the understanding of the tradition we have long held, with regard to the seperation of
Church and State?

It hasn't been that long since that fiction was adopted.

Spoken like the Taliban.

Spoken like the Taliban.

Spoken like someone with no grasp of US history.

Spoken like the Taliban.

That cartoon is about Iraq's Constitution.

So now if you're anti-abortion, you're the Taliban.