student loans are simply a method to support people that can't support themselves. It is simply a welfare program.
That's not accurate. My wife wouldn't be able to go to school without them. She will be paying them back. That's how loans work. That's what these kids need to understand.
That being said, a lot of the problems younger people are having these days is their own fault.
The article writer speaks volumes.
I have a good-paying job and health insurance. I have neither a car nor a family to support. Then why I am perpetually in debt? I look at my friends who complain about being poor and secretly wonder how they can afford iPods, pricey clothes and trips to Europe.
That's why they're poor and don't have shit. I don't wear pricey clothes, and I've never been out of the US. I never finished college, but I support a family of five. My wife is in college and I have three kids in private school. I don't have an SUV, and I take the bus to work....
Little whiney bitches is all they are.
Maybe we just stink at math. Twenty percent of U.S. college students completing four-year degrees and 30 percent of students earning two-year degrees have only basic quantitative literacy skills, according to a recent study by the American Institutes of Research.
I can't believe he brings this up. This is just another reason NOT to give student loans to these morons. Basically, there's kids in school, using resources, that shouldn't be.
That means many can't compare credit card offers with different interest rates or even calculate the cost of a salad and sandwich from a menu.
That's just sad. That's what we get for throwing money at education with no questions asked.
College is expensive and study is time consuming. One of the reasons that it is so expensive is student loans. It increases demand and with it, costs.Â
At what time in history did the notion take over that college students were "on welfare?" Not the students, the faculties and the administrations.
He points out inherent weaknesses without holding back.
What weaknesses? There's nothing they're facing that the rest of us aren't.
I don't think he's holding anyone blameless.
I disagree. I think you should re-read it. I want to ring the necks of the two authors he quotes. One even went so far as to say.....
"The baby boomers grew up in an incredible time of prosperity. They really had everything handed to them. The fact is that we are going to have to be the mature ones. We have to let people know that we are working hard. We do want to be responsible. We do want to be homeowners. We can be the bigger person."
The government guarantees repayment of student loans, thereby making it possible for huge amounts to be directed into "education." More demand for "education" means more "jobs" to fulfill this demand. If government did not guarantee repayment, the demand for "education" would also be reduced. The teachers and administrators would then have to find some other occupation.
WASHINGTON Â— Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts said Friday the Bush administration's domestic spying is within the president's inherent power under the Constitution, and he rejected criticism that Congress was kept in the dark about it. Â
There's nothing wrong with pursuit of knowledge. I don't think anyone here has said that.
The trouble is, one shouldn't expect the rest of society to financially support the "quest for knowledge". If you want an education, more power to you! Just don't expect me and every other Joe Taxpayer to pay the bill.
Five candidates are vying for three spots on the South St. Paul City Council. Running are Micky Gutzmann, Richard Jezierski, Don Madland, Marilyn Rothecker and incumbent Tom Seaberg. The term is four years and the annual salary is $6,600.
Voters will select from two candidates for Dakota County sheriff this year. Running are Rene R. Doffing and incumbent Sheriff Don Gudmundson. The term is for four years. The annual salary range for the position is $78,000 to $92,000.
WOW...i DIDNT THINK THE PAY WOULD BE THAT HIGH!!!!
Minnesota's led the nation in percentage of voting age population the past three general elections. The last non-presidential general in 2002 had almost 63% voting. That's really a good percentage, seeing as though not all voting age people are even registered.
I don't think that salary is high for a county sheriff, but why two numbers? start at $78 and get a raise after 30 days to $92,000? Or does the salary depend on whether the incumbant or the challenger wins? Heck I'd vote him out just to save $14,000 in tax savings from his salary.
IMHO., we shoudn't have even went to war with the people we did. Had we went after the actual "terrorists" who were "involved" in 9/11.. I'd support the president 100%.. however we went after someone who is totally unaffiliated with 9/11. Furthermore, I think we should worry about the problems in our own country before we step foot in a different one and try and change their world.
Iraq is hopeless. It is painfully apparent that the Sunnis and Shiites hate each other more than they want a central goverment. It's like holding the repelling sides of two magnets together; as soon as you let go they will come apart. Iraq will collapse into civil war when we leave, whether it be in 1 year or 10 years. We should redeploy troops into Afghanistan, where there is actually a chance of something good happening. The Taliban is creeping back into power, we only control about 10-15% of Afghanistan, and the rest is controlled by warlords. It's a shame that the media doesn't report that more.
the point is we are there whether you agreed with the war or not. The question is what now. Everyone wanted a new strategy and Bush is trying a new strategy wwith the buildup. The people who called for a different approach have no vision for victory of their own, yet won't let Bush at least try the build up. I agree time is running out though.
I'm not sure Iraq is hopless yet. Thats what the liberals think. Funny how they all voted for it when it started. I do agree it's a mess. We do need more control in Afganistan, but I disagree about just letting them have Iraq.
I know theres a lot of disagreement with my position too, but just giving up IMHO is the wrong idea.
If it were up to me I woulda just toppled Saddam and left the country in kaos. That teaches the lesson not to mess with us. They probly woulda pulled it together by now by themselves and we could've saved a few billion $$.
Saddam wasn't even involved, per se, with the attacks.. it was Bin Laden.. and part of me wonders if he isn't here in our country, laughing at us. I don't disagree with what they're trying to do.. just how they're going about it. I mean.. how would we feel if, lets say.. Mexican government came into our country and tried to tell us how to run stuff. All I'm sayin is that we need to fix our own problems before we go out to fix the world. What about America's poverty, and America's homelessness, and America's abused and neglected children..? Do we just look the other way when it comes to people of our own country..? Sure seems like it...
:pbpt: you know what I meant! If someone did to us what we're doing to Iraq.. we would want them out, and see to it. I just think that the countless deaths there are unreasonable. Im all for military action, but if our people die for a pointless cause(i.e. going after the wrong people) it isn't worth it, besides the fact that if we get another terrorist attack, we are pretty much completely defenseless, cause most, if not all of our frontline troops are over there, leaving America unguarded. If there is another terrorist attack, and I'd bet my life there will be, now is the perfect time, and Im sure they know that, too.
Agreed. Although I don't think we are ever privy to all the information and intelligence as to the wars and conflicts we fight. More so considering the rich media coverage we always get. I think our leadership faces a lot of hard decisions everyday. Things I'd never be able to comprehend I'm sure. It's great to live in a country where we can criticize decisions made though.
Terrorism isn't an exact science either, that's why it's so hard to stop. And it wouldn't matter if we did have all our troops home. Terrorists specifically look for weaknesses in a system. Since nobody is perfect, there will never be anything that is completely secure.
Sure, there's easier targets, but a terrorist doesn't care about easy/hard, they care about choosing something that will make an impact.
student loans are simply a method to support people that can't support themselves. It is simply a welfare program.
That's not accurate. My wife wouldn't be able to go to school without them. She will be paying them back. That's how loans work. That's what these kids need to understand.
That being said, a lot of the problems younger people are having these days is their own fault.
The article writer speaks volumes.
I have a good-paying job and health insurance. I have neither a car nor a family to support. Then why I am perpetually in debt? I look at my friends who complain about being poor and secretly wonder how they can afford iPods, pricey clothes and trips to Europe.
That's why they're poor and don't have shit. I don't wear pricey clothes, and I've never been out of the US. I never finished college, but I support a family of five. My wife is in college and I have three kids in private school. I don't have an SUV, and I take the bus to work....
Little whiney bitches is all they are.
Maybe we just stink at math. Twenty percent of U.S. college students completing four-year degrees and 30 percent of students earning two-year degrees have only basic quantitative literacy skills, according to a recent study by the American Institutes of Research.
I can't believe he brings this up. This is just another reason NOT to give student loans to these morons. Basically, there's kids in school, using resources, that shouldn't be.
That means many can't compare credit card offers with different interest rates or even calculate the cost of a salad and sandwich from a menu.
That's just sad. That's what we get for throwing money at education with no questions asked.
Seems like an honest open-eyed assessment to me. He points out inherent weaknesses without holding back. I don't think he's holding anyone blameless.
I don't understand your need to personalize this.
College is expensive and study is time consuming. One of the reasons that it is so expensive is student loans. It increases demand and with it, costs.Â
At what time in history did the notion take over that college students were "on welfare?" Not the students, the faculties and the administrations.
student loans are simply a method to support people that can't support themselves. It is simply a welfare program.
That's not accurate.Â
I wasn't referring to the students.Â
I don't understand your need to personalize this. Because those that are responsible are paying for those that are not.
He points out inherent weaknesses without holding back.
What weaknesses? There's nothing they're facing that the rest of us aren't.
I don't think he's holding anyone blameless.
I disagree. I think you should re-read it. I want to ring the necks of the two authors he quotes. One even went so far as to say.....
"The baby boomers grew up in an incredible time of prosperity. They really had everything handed to them. The fact is that we are going to have to be the mature ones. We have to let people know that we are working hard. We do want to be responsible. We do want to be homeowners. We can be the bigger person."
Not to mention they feel they deserve a house, a new car, a big screen TV.....
I don't get that mentality, I really don't. That's the mentality my nine year old has. Thank God my eleven year old has already grown out of it.
"Not the students, the faculties and the administrations."
That makes what you said even more stupid, but thanks for the clarification.
That makes what you said even more stupid,
only if you refuse to think about it.
Make your case.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060203-010529-6391r
My nine year old knows better than that.
Make your case.
The government guarantees repayment of student loans, thereby making it possible for huge amounts to be directed into "education." More demand for "education" means more "jobs" to fulfill this demand. If government did not guarantee repayment, the demand for "education" would also be reduced. The teachers and administrators would then have to find some other occupation.
Are the people who work on defense contractor assembly lines, like Lockheed-Martin also on welfare?
possibly. defense spending shouldn't create unnecessary jobs but that does not seem to be the case.
I knew some guys who worked civilian jobs at an Air Force Base. They named the place after an old song called "Big Rock Candy Mountain."
On Big Rock Candy Mountain "they hung the jerk who invented work."
The University of Big Rock Candy Mountain. Yeah, that's right.
WASHINGTON Â— Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts said Friday the Bush administration's domestic spying is within the president's inherent power under the Constitution, and he rejected criticism that Congress was kept in the dark about it. Â
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183731,00.html
"The University of Big Rock Candy Mountain. Yeah, that's right. "
Typical conservative anti-intellectualism; displaying a deep-seated suspicion of the pursuit of knowledge.
There's nothing wrong with pursuit of knowledge. I don't think anyone here has said that.
The trouble is, one shouldn't expect the rest of society to financially support the "quest for knowledge". If you want an education, more power to you! Just don't expect me and every other Joe Taxpayer to pay the bill.
Like B-1 bombers and armored Humvees; knowledge and ideas do not come cheap.
NICE
I VOTED FOR DONNY MADLAND
...HE'LL MAKE IT...AS ITS TOP 3 OUT OF 5....
BUT I DISLIKE 2 OTHERS CANIDATES MORE...
HAHAHAHA
Five candidates are vying for three spots on the South St. Paul City Council. Running are Micky Gutzmann, Richard Jezierski, Don Madland, Marilyn Rothecker and incumbent Tom Seaberg. The term is four years and the annual salary is $6,600.
Voters will select from two candidates for Dakota County sheriff this year. Running are Rene R. Doffing and incumbent Sheriff Don Gudmundson. The term is for four years. The annual salary range for the position is $78,000 to $92,000.
WOW...i DIDNT THINK THE PAY WOULD BE THAT HIGH!!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/07/eveningnews/main2160958.shtml
Results:
Landfall Council At Large (Top 3)
Precincts Reporting: 1 of 1 (100%)
Winner Candidate Votes %
X Ronald Sanoski 129 22%
X Ron Dick 121 19%
X Terry Kilby 106 17%
Jan Miller 89 14%
James Walter 84 13%
Lori Lengsfeld 65 10%
Paul Davidson 31 5%
Read his article here
I know theres a lot of disagreement with my position too, but just giving up IMHO is the wrong idea.
If it were up to me I woulda just toppled Saddam and left the country in kaos. That teaches the lesson not to mess with us. They probly woulda pulled it together by now by themselves and we could've saved a few billion $$.
They do. It's called the United Nations.
I agree though, we do need to take care of ourselves before we can help others.
Agreed. Although I don't think we are ever privy to all the information and intelligence as to the wars and conflicts we fight. More so considering the rich media coverage we always get. I think our leadership faces a lot of hard decisions everyday. Things I'd never be able to comprehend I'm sure. It's great to live in a country where we can criticize decisions made though.
Terrorism isn't an exact science either, that's why it's so hard to stop. And it wouldn't matter if we did have all our troops home. Terrorists specifically look for weaknesses in a system. Since nobody is perfect, there will never be anything that is completely secure.
Sure, there's easier targets, but a terrorist doesn't care about easy/hard, they care about choosing something that will make an impact.