Shoot the Breeze With the Cooler Crew - Peoplesforum Edition

havn't we talked enough about LOCKING YOUR DOORS at night!..or locking them any time for that matter ;p

kettle. pot. pot. kettle :)

they WILL BE LOCKED this weekend!

goodness where is everyone?

I am sure I will be here sometime this weekend but if I don't ----

Happy Independence to everyone :)

I'm going to be at a science fiction convention all weekend.

I call it the evaporating Coke (Pepsi, Dew, Sprite, whatever) Syndrome

I have this problem. But since only two of us can open the fridge without help, I know who the culprit is...

lol.

Funny thing just happened to me. My wife calls to yell at me asking what I spent $21.00 on for The St. Paul Festival & Heritage Foundation that she found in our on-line bank statement. After much hesitation I told her it was for a brick of ice for the Ice Palace. Then she says: "What the hell is wrong with you? $21 for a block of ice! What are you going to do with it and where the hell are we even going to keep it?" After I laughed my ass of she kept saying that it wasn't funny and really wanted to know what my plans were for the thing. I told her that it was weird because I didn't even receive the thing in the mail yet they already cashed the check. Then I think it finally dawned on her that is was just a certificate and not the actual block of ice. ;-)

Anyone else send in their form?

JOE!

I'm going to call this Joe a Snow....

I hope every one has a happy and safe 4th of July.

That's right! You and your bro are F-n nutz dude. Post those pix.

we got 2 today. unfortunately, no pictures. it all happened too fast. one of 'em made my ears ring, and its shell casing landed 200 feet away across the street. we estimate it could be heard at least a mile away. which would of course put it within hearing distance of the nearest police station too. we kinda ended up in a competition with some of the neighbors too. they were popping firecrackers. when our first one went off i heard one of them holler "ok who was that?" lol.

I had to give my dog's drugs cus of all the fire works going off so after it calmed down for the evening we let them out of there kennels and they could not even walk up the basement stairs LOL so we put them back in there kennels for the rest of the night.

I heard about the teenager who fell 200 feet off Indian Mounds Bluff the other day :(

I have a feeling we can strike IM off our Medallion Hunt list.

and while you're at it, cherokee can probably follow it for the same reasons, just on that other side of the river ;)

Well, by that logic Harriet Island is probably out too, on account of this loony.

Tony Saley is definitely a hero accept that he rescued the mother instead of the other twin. Both story's are a sad way to remember this years Independence Day weekend. The story about Edward Herrgott is also a grim reality of the world we now live in. Hopefully Sunday will prove a bit better. We had to come home early from up north due to all of those damn flies. I've never seen them so thick before. Hope you all have a fun Holiday.

yeah the flies are bad here in Aitkin too but not as many mosquitos.

I am floored that life is sooo bad to take your childrens lives - she could have handed those kids to someoe and jumped off herself!

I sooo wish I cold have been there-I know I would have tried to help!
It is hard to imagine jumping in right there after hearing of the young 20 yr old girl who helped make that makeshift raft out of insulation- how she was pulled under a barge :(
I would worry about those twins being pulled under.

I have never heard of so many people dying in that area in such a little amount of time -- Highway 3/52 to Highbridge --

a couple months ago about 9-10 pm during a hunt (Littlemans hunt?) I drove to IM -while I was looking around above the scenic overlook at Carver Cave the police were searching the waters below for someone.

Memorial Weekend there was the event at Harriet Island and my daughter was actually pushed into the river at the Great Stairs by a stranger (young teenage girl) who thought it was funny to come up behind her and push her in cause another girl had been pushed in a bit earlier. My daughter went completely over her head but got out -crying ofcourse! I wasnt there - I told her I would be in jail for beating the crap outa that girl for placing my childs LIFE in such danger!

WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE? and the things they teach their kids?

I saw an interview with the guy who started Taste, and he said he always wanted it at HI. But HI couldn't handle it before the remodel, so he compromised with the Capitol grounds. Apparantly he was a big factor in the remodel that they did. So it probably won't move, if he's got anything so say about it.

I know Joe,John, Dave, Phil Karen, and Eugene very well. Skip, Matt, Maureen, I too went to school at St Augustine with them all. Ask Joe or John if the remember "duece" back then and you surely will find out who I am :) Pawlenty, Pavelack, Pachcal, Bilderbacks,Cosgroves, hmmmmm--the good old days.

I didn't go this year. I didn't want to deal with the parking.

Have any of you ever seen the cartoon Charlotte's Web?

Recall when Templeton the rat went to the fair after it was closed at night and he ate all the food he wanted and all the carnival lights were still lit?... That is what it was like at midnight last night- we were coming home from the lake driving on Plato just passing Wabasha there was 'life' -people in yellow shirts with garbage bags cleaning up the sidewalks---then we get to HI...going up the Ohio windy hill...the still carnival rides all lit up was just sureal! It was a site to behold from uptop on the Cherokee Ave bluff.

I really felt like I missed out this year.

Those must be the best M&M's that I've ever seen me2!! Nice surgery.

oink oink ;=P

:: wonders if those m&m's will melt in his mouth. or his hand. it doesn't really matter either way ::

Wow me2 you have grown.

those look so sweet.

If anyone is going to the whitebear ave parade on thursday, watch for us!

mornin' ralph.

If anyone is going to the whitebear ave parade on thursday, watch for us!

What parade?

gonna ride your golf cart in the parade :)?

I am sooo saddened by this news---I was surprised -I truly thought they would make it :(

SINGAPORE (July 8) - Iranian twins Laleh and Ladan Bijani, joined at the head for 29 years, died within 90 minutes of each other Tuesday after doctors separated them but were unable to control their bleeding in the unprecedented surgery.

In their homeland, people cried out in shock or wept as state television broke into normal programming to announce their deaths during the third day of surgery in Singapore.

``Is my beloved Ladan really not with us anymore?'' Zari Bijani, an elder sister of the twins, said after Ladan's death was reported. Seconds later, she fainted.

Hospital officials said Ladan died 90 minutes ahead of her sister Laleh, with both deaths because of blood loss. They died while still under anesthesia.

``Everyone upstairs is crying,'' said the nurse, speaking on condition of anonymity. ``We treated them like family because they had been here for seven months.''

It was the first time surgeons tried to separate adult craniopagus twins - siblings born joined at the head. The surgery has been performed successfully since 1952 on infants, whose brains can more easily recover.

The twins had gone into the surgery saying they knew the risks but wanted to achieve their dream of living independent lives - Laden wanted to continue as a lawyer, Laleh wanted to switch to become a journalist. Speaking in English to journalists last month, their joined heads wrapped in a single scarf, the smiling and laughing sisters said they wanted for the first to look at each other face-to-face.

``We have different ideas about our lives,'' Laleh said. ``Actually, we are opposites,'' Ladan interrupted, laughing.

``If God wants us to live the rest of our lives as two separate, independent individuals, we will,'' Ladan said before the final tests Saturday ahead of the surgery.

The risky, marathon separation procedure began about 10 p.m. EDT Saturday. Before the operation, doctors warned that the surgery could kill one or both of the twins, or leave them brain-dead.

``When we undertook this challenge, we knew the risks were great. But we were hopeful. Ladan and Laleh knew the risks too,'' said Dr. Loo Choon Yong, chairman of Raffles Hospital. ``As doctors there is only so much we can do as the rest we have to leave it to the Almighty.''

From the start, doctors ran into unexpected obstacles not found in the infants that the operation has until now been performed on. It took longer to cut through portions of the sisters' skulls because their older bones were denser than previously believed.

And though the Ladan and Laleh's brains were separate, they had adhered to each other after years of growing and sharing the same space. That forced doctors to meticulously cut the organs apart, ``millimeter by millimeter,'' Raffles hospital spokesman Dr. Prem Kumar said.

``As the separation was coming to a close, a lot of blood was lost. The twins were subsequently in a critical state,'' said Kumar.

Working in two groups, surgeons gave each twin blood transfusions, but in the end they were unable to cope with the unusual blood flow patterns, he said.

``I was concentrating very hard on Laleh at the time,'' lead neurosurgeon Dr. Keith Goh said, recounting the moment when he knew the operation had gone wrong. ``I was very saddened when I looked over and saw them struggling, of course at the same time, we were struggling too.''

A crucial part of the surgery had been to deal with a finger-thick vein shared by the sisters that drained blood from the brain. In 1996, German doctors had told the twins that shared vein made surgery too dangerous.

During the operation, the surgeons grafted a similar sized vein from Ladan's right thigh to her brain, then rerouted the shared brain to her sister.

But Ladan's new vein became congested, and surgeons Monday night considered wheter to call off the rest of the operation and leave the twins joined or ``continue with final stage of the surgery, which we knew would be very, very risky,'' Loo said.

``The team wanted to know once again what were the wishes of Ladan and Laleh,'' Loo said. ``We were told that Ladan and Laleh's wishes were to be separated under all circumstances.''

For more than 50 hours, the team of 28 doctors and about 100 medical assistants worked in tight spaces in front of and behind the twins, who were in a sitting position in a custom-built brace connected to IVs and monitors. Classical music played softly, and surgeons whose expertise was not needed at the moment would slip out of the room for rest.

In the final hours, the surgeons had to contend with unstable pressure levels inside the twins' brains just before they worked to uncouple the sisters' brains and cut through the last bit of skull joining them, Kumar said.

``I am very sad, as all of us are,'' Goh said. ``Over the last six months, everyone who came in contact with them was touched by their personalities and the kind of people they were.''

The courage of the twins won them a place in the hearts of Iranians. Television devoted many programs to the twins. Newspapers published page after page about their life and the protracted operation.

Parents of the twins, Dadollah Bijani and Maryam Safari, thanked the Iranian nation for praying for their children, the state-run Tehran radio reported.

``It's a national tragedy,'' said Ahmad Mahmoudi, a photographer in Tehran.

Housewife Noushin Nowrouzi promptly parked her car after she heard the news on the radio so she could cry in peace.

The sisters were born into a poor family of 11 children in Firouzabad, southern Iran, but grew up in Tehran under doctors' care.

The Iranian government said Monday it would pay the nearly $300,000 cost of the operation and care for the twins.

Participating neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson, director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Children's Center in Baltimore, has separated three sets of craniopagus twins.

07/08/03 11:13 EDT

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Hey Frosti delete that post of yours in PeanutButter/Jam!
I almost posted too to give you crap and then I read LL's post!
geeesh! Did your avatar get her trophy from that website Ian posted?
Can you imagine now if we have 'frosti m&m's'? our avatars may get along too well ;p

hmmm. frosti's avatar, your avatar, the link posted in one of the other threads........

What parade?

The whitebear ave parade that kicks off the ramsey county fair! Thursday 7:00pm, ends at aldrich arena but I'm not sure what street it starts on.

Well, you can see half of it anyway!

hay do any of you have any relatives that work for a ford dealership locally that's authorised to sell new mustang cobras? i'm buying one of theseand becuase there's only going to be 1000 of them made in that paint job, i want one ordered now. now i can go out to tousley tomorrow and probably put 1000 down on it. but if i know someone who works for one of the authorised dealerships (eden prairie, american/bloomington, or tousley) i'd just as soon go to them first (and as far as i know, none of the saxon group dealerships is authorised).

He is really gonna do it ASAP so if anyone knows anyone !!!!!!

Then your friend or relative will get the commission instead of just some lucky SOB at the dealership who has been waiting all their life for Ares to walk through that door :P----contact Ares right away!

And feel free to get me one of those since the new Saleen I want hasn't driven itself to my house yet :)

you have to get a license and drive it there yourself, reggie.

neither is worshipping che.

if you were 18 you can try out for a reality show-
like the one that ended / began last night
the one where if he chose her she then can choose between him or the MILLION BUCKS
she chose the MILLION BUCKS!

Sorry ares. I know the head mechanic at Tousley but he doesn't get anything for referrals. Plus I can't stand the Tousley sales idiots at all. They are the epitome of sales leaches out there. (well maybe except for Southview Chev morons that is)

Pricing information will be announced at a later date.

... must not matter ...

What a cool looking car, J.

I thought me2's name had 4 letters, not 5

Larry Baine at Tousley is a friend of mine. He will help u out w/ any questions you may have. This guy IS NOT and idiot and he is very polite and truthful. Sorry but you are not eliglbe for the Z plan! I'm a Ford truck kinda guy gotta have diesel and power of the Triton V8 5.4. I got a AMC Pacer for sale if you want it.. its cheap

What year is that pacer? ;)