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2015 - Snail Lake

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2015 Treasure Hunt Discussion Thread



 

zephyrus

Vadnais is French
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:01 PM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

There actually is a sledding hill there :smile: People have photo's posted on foursquare of their kids sledding.

Wedge, I can only think of it as somehow "Wedge" is Edgerton which intersects with Vadnais blvd.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:04 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

I'm a fan of snail lake, was there this morning.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:06 PM Permalink
queenmalley

well, if a train is mentioned, there is that interesting Cardigan Junction railway running along Snail Lake Regional Park and those two big lakes in Vadnais Hgts.

"In 1888 the first train, in five sections, departed from Minneapolis with 102 cars loaded with flour destined for Boston, New York, Philadelphia, London, England, and Glasgow, Scotland.

Cardigan Junction, the Sault Ste. Marie and Atlantic RailroadÂ’s switching point, was also built in 1888, halfway between Lake Owasso and Vadnais Lake, at a cost of $3,700. Commonly known as the Soo Line, the railroad built its first station house in Minnesota at this site. Lines from St. Paul and Minneapolis came together at Cardigan Junction. Cars were uncoupled and transferred to sidetracks where they were reassembled into new trains bound for the Twin Cities. It became part of a chain of three depots: Cardigan, Carnelian and Bulwer Junction." Still looks like an active railroad, but I haven't seen clues written about any railroad. Named after James Brudenell, 7th Earl of Cardigan who was famous for leading the Charge of the Light Brigade. But he was English. Interesting history about the area that I never knew, which is a reason I like this hunt.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:08 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Glasgow, Scotland could be the Laddie and Lass reference?
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:09 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Phalen reference!
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:11 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Is there enough snow to go sledding, Monkey?
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:14 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Charge of the Light Brigade a famous poem by Lord Alfred Tennyson, I remember reading that in HS history class.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:15 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Or from playing with "Authors" cards.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:20 PM Permalink
nancydrew

Just throwing this out in the mix, Good laddie and lass(ie), could refer to dogs, dog park and sledding hill at Battle Creek. the neighborhood is called Highwood, (heights), watery sights, water park and creek. Golf course, workhouse too.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:28 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

DD,

Yes there is actually a designated sledding hill.

It's even shown on the map for the park at the county website.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:29 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Robert Burns, the national poet of Scotland, has a poem about Highland Laddie; there are other versions of Highland Laddie poems/songs which leads to of course Highland Park.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:40 PM Permalink
queenmalley

"The last train carrying passengers passed through Cardigan Junction on June 2, 1962, but did not stop. After sitting empty for several years, the depot was demolished in 1984. The railroad tracks remain, as do the telephone and telegraph poles and some of the depot’s footings — all that is left to mark the site of the first station house built in Minnesota."

Very interesting history.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 2:45 PM Permalink
HunterPixie

Great noodling! When I read the clue last night, I thought Highland had to be a red herring. Love this spot! I live in Fridley and work in Shoreview, so it's well situated for me. Couple of thoughts that I haven't seen mentioned, could the wedge be referring to the fact that one of the entrances to Snail Lake is wedged right on the border of Shoreview and Vadnais Heights? Also, the North Oaks golf course is just across Hwy 96, bringing in the golf reference and also the riches from expensive properties in North Oaks?
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:01 PM Permalink
HunterPixie

Also, like the fact that this area could definitely handle a large hunt that is likely considering the temps this year...
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:02 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Looked up history of the John H Allison Forest in the Snail Lake Regional Park area. A U of M prof like in 1914. He wrote a long paper about the first U of M forest/horticulture department led by a Mr. Green; thus, Green Hall is still at the U of M Department of Resources. Interesting history of a forest I didn't even knew existed in the Twin Cities.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:16 PM Permalink
queenmalley

That forest is more on the Vadnais Lake area then Snail Lake, however.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:22 PM Permalink
queenmalley

I also like Brigadoon Drive near Snail Lake, and Highland Drive and Heather Drive; those all scream Scotland (laddie and lass); but I have been in this spot before: fitting clues into park. I am still haunted by Horton Hears a Who to this day! :pbpt:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:27 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Brigadoon is a play about a Scottish village which appears for only one day every hundred years. Also was a movie.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:29 PM Permalink
queenmalley

From the musical Brigadoon "Love of my Life":

At sixteen years I was blue ans sad.

then father said I should find a lad.

So I set out to become a wife,

An' found the real love of my life.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 3:36 PM Permalink
queenmalley

CLue 3: Nature's work high over a trail: Snail Lake Trail, Sucker Lake Trail, Grass Lake Trail and the long Highway 96 Regional Trail. A tunnel under Gramsie Road. From Metro Bike Trails.

 Metro Bike Trails Vadnais
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 4:07 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

plans of men fouled beyond measure - radio towers at Vadnais Heights - The towers were initially built in the 1970s, and were replacements for a single "candelabra" style tower which collapsed just prior to completion in 1971, killing six workers on the tower and one on the ground. They are well secured now. Also the entire area is a bird sanctuary
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 4:50 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

Very interesting noodles! :smile:

Are people still interested in Keller/Phalen? A lot of clues could fit there too it seems. Hmm.... :eyeroll:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:16 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Yes, :wink:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:16 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

Someone on the PP boards did a nice scouting video for today. It didn't look like there were many, or any, people around where he was scouting. He went to Cherokee, Highland, Snail Lake, and Keller/Phalen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1n29tJX0uM&feature=youtu.be

That seems kinda weird, doesn't it? I would think more people would be out in this nice weather.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:27 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

BTW, I don't post over there.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:27 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

That's Nate. He's cooler
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:37 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

Oh, thanks!
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:45 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

2 more days of work. Hope it lasts that long. I might be canceling my vaca next week... :confused:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:49 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

If its at Snail, it will go into early next week.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 6:03 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

The googlemaps streetview images of Snail are beautiful, taken during the fall colors peak!
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 6:12 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Snail is really convincing for me at this point, followed by Highland and then Keller. I believe today's clue was "double written" to fit both Snail and Highland. Only one can survive...
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 6:20 PM Permalink
brasscat

and the survivor is......to be continued!

 :sillygrin:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 6:24 PM Permalink
SNAKE88

Is Neck still at Como
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:06 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Kid and I went to Snail tonight. Awesome sledding hill, not so much for its steepness, but more for the fact it is a giant bowl. Hard to hit anything by accident, and still plenty of snow. No more than six cars at any time I was there, and most didn't even get out of the car. Certainly not a consensus for the win.

I have yet to go to Highland, despite being here at Snelling and Randolph. I hope it is there,as Snail is pretty much about as far away as it can get, and is really suburban. Very dark. Non linear streets. No White Castle.

If it is at Snail, it could be a while before it is found. The snowpack still covers most of the ground, and the wooded sections are like Crosby.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:11 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

I've been on that tower twice for work. Great view. I am normally kind of causal about clipping in, but I always did there.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:13 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

Thanks for the report! Is the sledding hill to the east/north of Mackubin St, off the second parking lot? Just wondering. Going to scope it out tomorrow.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:15 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

anyone know anything about the 1 million gallon underground reservoir in the area around snail and grass lake? Seems to me it was in the news a few years back as being structurally unsound. Maybe the plans of men thing? I know the whole area is a watershed of sorts with a lot of man made creeks and ditches.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:34 PM Permalink
zephyrus

No White Castle?

It can't be there then...
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:37 PM Permalink
ares

see what i did here?
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:40 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I also don't think its in the woods. That was a rags thing. Hasn't been in wood since 2011 before Tony Schmidt.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:41 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Yes, second parking lot. You will see a picnic pavilion. North of that is the sledding hill.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:44 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Never know - it could be a tribute... Freeze it in ice with a button of someone nearby, get the pumpkin-chucker and aim towards the woods...
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:46 PM Permalink
GreenTeam

Thank you! :grin:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:47 PM Permalink
Terry

Zephy - that is a great mental image. I wish this place had a like button.
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:48 PM Permalink
HunterPixie

Like!
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:48 PM Permalink
Tatergirl

I love that you pay $10 every year just to come on here and bust Jake's balls.... :sillygrin: :sillygrin:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:51 PM Permalink
Terry

:sillygrin: :smile: :sillygrin:
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:52 PM Permalink