My son rents my house from me. The house we lived in when they were growing up. He got a permit when he replaced windows on a little porch/breezeway type deal on the side of the house. Now the city tells him that he has to have his smoke alarms hard wired on both landings and in front of each bedroom! It's code on new construction and any time you pull a permit. :chagrin:
When interior alterations, repairs or additions requiring a permit occur, or when one or more sleeping rooms are added or created in existing dwellings, the individual dwelling unit shall be provided with smoke alarms located as required for new dwellings; the smoke alarms shall be interconnected and hardwired.
Exceptions:
1. Smoke alarms in existing areas shall not be required to be interconnected and hardwired where the alterations or repairs do not result in the removal of the interior wall or ceiling finishes exposing the structure, unless there is a crawl space or basement available which could provide access for hardwiring and interconnection without the removal of interior finishes.
2. Work on the exterior which does not require entry into the interior for inspection
He also made batteries to die. It would be okay if people could rememberr to check them the same time they changed the times on thier clocks etc. But you know like I do that people would forget.
and pleased again that the guy across the street had my driveway plowed out for me this morning. i've gotta do the 3rd stall this afternoon, but its better than doing 3 stalls worth!
Personaly I prefer a AC powered smoke alarm with battery back up.
Considering a majority of household fires are in fact electrical in nature a AC power detector alone would be useless. If your service or main are the root cause of the fire then your power source is gone and the detector useless. Even a fire not related to your electrical system could melt your service or inside wiring.
And lets face it. Smoke detectors are made for pennies a piece. I'm not willing to risk my life catching that little beep. I've been around when they go off for no reason. I'm sure they can NOT go off just as easy.
Regardless of what you choose to use you should still test it monthly and replace batteries as needed.
It's a nuisanse when you have to go into ceilings to hard wire them though. That's what we're facing now. Unless I can call them off by reading them the code. :smile:
We had a guy who lived in apartment in Germany whos main detector died. he said there was no warning on batteries or anything. We just slightly heard the other detector outside his kids rooms going off. It was like midnight. My friend and I ended up going through his door to get to them.
His four kids, wife and he were all OUT. Seems one of the girls had been messing with fire earlier in the evening and a pile of clothes ahad smoldered and then caught fire. Add that to the nice wood floors we had and you get the idea.
Ask Steph... she still freaks out about that whole deal. They lived on the second floor. We were on the third.
The army had this stupid policy about not putting fire extinguishers in the stairwells because they didn't want people trying fight the fires.
Problem with that was the fire station was at the airbase side of Stuttagart international. It took the firemen 12 minutes to get to our apartment. :eyeroll:
that and possible tax increase
bwwwaaahhhh
old house...I don't care now...
He'd could lose his license.
but then again everything was cash!!!
heck I've had a bunch of projects like that on my prior houses.....didn't really care.
(don't tell the 1st guy....he's a big biker dude that I don't think would care to go to jail)
holy crap!!!
I'm really lucky.
I know it's a pain the ass adding them though.
http://www.doli.state.mn.us/pdf/bc_cx_websmoke_9_05.pdf says this:
R317.1.1 Alterations, repairs or additions
When interior alterations, repairs or additions requiring a permit occur, or when one or more sleeping rooms are added or created in existing dwellings, the individual dwelling unit shall be provided with smoke alarms located as required for new dwellings; the smoke alarms shall be interconnected and hardwired.
Exceptions:
1. Smoke alarms in existing areas shall not be required to be interconnected and hardwired where the alterations or repairs do not result in the removal of the interior wall or ceiling finishes exposing the structure, unless there is a crawl space or basement available which could provide access for hardwiring and interconnection without the removal of interior finishes.
2. Work on the exterior which does not require entry into the interior for inspection
At least that's what Jake told me.
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and pleased again that the guy across the street had my driveway plowed out for me this morning. i've gotta do the 3rd stall this afternoon, but its better than doing 3 stalls worth!
Considering a majority of household fires are in fact electrical in nature a AC power detector alone would be useless. If your service or main are the root cause of the fire then your power source is gone and the detector useless. Even a fire not related to your electrical system could melt your service or inside wiring.
But thats just me.
Regardless of what you choose to use you should still test it monthly and replace batteries as needed.
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/fmarshal/PublicEducation/smokedetectorreplacement.html
And yes before you ask, I was a fire explorer when I was younger. Oh how I loved working in the smoke trailer.
His four kids, wife and he were all OUT. Seems one of the girls had been messing with fire earlier in the evening and a pile of clothes ahad smoldered and then caught fire. Add that to the nice wood floors we had and you get the idea.
Ask Steph... she still freaks out about that whole deal. They lived on the second floor. We were on the third.
The army had this stupid policy about not putting fire extinguishers in the stairwells because they didn't want people trying fight the fires.
Problem with that was the fire station was at the airbase side of Stuttagart international. It took the firemen 12 minutes to get to our apartment. :eyeroll: