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mushy stuffing DRY turkey bland coleslaw 2 pis not cooked right ok so I lie BURNT!!! and one still frozen and another one Melted!!! let see Wine that Was BITTER!!! and DRY!! to go with the Turkey!! how Else could it have Went Wrong?!?!?! you ask!!!
My brother and his wife and 2 kids SHOW UP!!
and the first thing out of Brother mouth should I kick you azz now or later I said tomorrow I will come up to your house if I have to get it kicked at all!!!
Ok it sounded good to me because we are not sopse to fight on this a holiday right that's what I thought!?!?!
but no he takes a swing and falls on his face then Who gets in trouble for starting S!@t with the azz hole you guessed IT ME!!!
So on that Note I hope every one had a good one!!!
SO Since I road up with my mom I have to hear about it the rest of the night!! and not to mention the fact that his 2 kids had to stay here last night so they could go shopping!!! with money they don't have NICE!!! god I hope Kitch gets them!!! lol Any info I will give!!
mushy stuffing DRY turkey bland coleslaw 2 pis not cooked right ok so I lie BURNT!!! and one still frozen and another one Melted!!! let see Wine that Was BITTER!!! and DRY!! to go with the Turkey!!
Did you cook?? If not I would be thankful someone went through the trouble and tried to cook for me and invited me over. Just my two cents, sorry.
They are 68 and 65 years old. The house is absolutely loaded with clutter (some of which is our old kid stuff) and about 1/3 of it could disappear overnight and never be missed. They are both still working full time.
Mom is a County Nurse and works out of a guest bedroom on a desk that used to be a kitchen countertop. She does not have one single file cabinet in the room, and mountains of paperwork and confidential health records that are locked in basically an old silverware drawer. Nothing in there is appropriate for office work, but she keeps stalling when we bring up the idea of getting her a real desk. She keeps saying she won't need it when she retires, but that's going on 5-6 years now and she's still working.
Dad got contractors to build an addition onto the garage - basically giving him a boat storage space and a nice wood shop area. He likes carpentry, but he hasn't done a thing with that wood shop since it was built. Not a single shelf or pegboard has been put up. His tools sit in piles on top of the saw table, etc... His ONE project - built a Murphy (fold-down) bed for Mom's office room, but he took THREE YEARS to get it done. It should have taken three weekends.
Is it time for an intervention?
I seriously want to do an "Extreme Makover" to both rooms, but we'd have to drag them away kicking and screaming to get it done. I live two hours away - and my 2 brothers live even further. I can't really get them on the same page, either. The real heartbreaking thing is when I was down there for Thanksgiving, I saw a LOT of old Christmas presents - small stuff like DVD movies and board games - still wrapped in plastic - not opened in more than three years. They need HELP not more 'stuff'.
Trying to drive down there every week as some sort of 'caregiver' is probably going to be my duty in a few more years.
I just see visions of a full dumpster in the driveway after the funeral full of crap that should've been thrown ten years ago.
I did an intervention about 3 summers ago with my mom. She had soooooo much stuff that she never used never looked at it just sat in storage because it was "sentimental" in nature but the problem was they live up on acrage (well I guess its not they now it's just mom) and they had built their own shed approx that was about 10 x 10 or something. They kept pilling stuff in there and piling stuff in there and every Christmas she was begging me to help her move boxes and junk out of the way to get to the rear of the shed where she kept all her holiday decorations and supplies.
This shed was filled top to bottom with card board boxes of (I'm not kidding you) boxes of old t-shirts that no longer fit that had logo's on them, a box FULL of gloves my dad accquired while working for a steel manufacturing plant for 30 years, several boxes full of old coffee mugs that no one wanted anymore yet of course they were bought as gifts for them or they thought they were to cute to just pitch or donate, boxes of old dolls, and just about anything else you can collect over many many years. Christmas gifts that weren't wanted but they didn't feel they could get rid of them. An entire set of dishes that they replaced with their current set.
I went up there one summer after 2 summers of her wanting my help to reorganize her shed and I told her here is the deal. 60-70% of the stuff has to go or I won't help because reorganizing isn't going to work. It's full top to bottom you'll still never get to anything no matter how nice we stack the boxes. So we clean it out and you knwo what I would guess that 50% of the stuff we had to trash simply because she didn't protect anything and everything was covered in mouse nests and droppigns and yet she was still wanting to salvage stuff covered in feces by saying she could repair it or clean it or whatever because she couldnt' stand the thought of getting rid of anything.
I know this is long, but I thought I would share my story with you. Now 3 years later...her shed is a mess again and accumulating more stuff...the more room you make for your parents...I'm guessing they will find more stuff to fill up the newly opened up and cleaned up space. Good luck with yoru parents, my mom wasn't happy but it needed to be done.
They are still fairly "young" as these things go, BUT...
I'm guessing they are overwhelmed with the amount of stuff they have and don't know where to start.
And it is a judgment call as to whether their accumulations are affecting their life or happiness, or what the saving represents.
Also, what the inability to deal with it represents (fear of lack, depression, disorganization, laziness, or normal variation of having stuff in one's home) is a judgment call.
If they know they need to declutter but want to do it themselves, perhaps some organizational tools or books might help them get started and see that it does not have to be overwhelming.
If they are receptive to help, that is great! I actually do best at decluttering if I just have someone around for moral support, but I'm mostly doing it myself, just asking for an opinion on some things, or asking if my sons want certain items before I donate them.
If they are online at all, there are websites that they can follow for decluttering tasks of the day. One such site is www.flylady.com (geared to homemakers, but useful to others as well).
If they are tackling it themselves, over time, just keeping it manageable is the key. Five minutes or fifteen minutes a day, and never get so much out that you can't get it put back.
You could give them containers to sort into (boxes, bins, or sturdy mesh laundry containers that pop into shape):
PUT AWAY
GIVE AWAY
THROW AWAY
Often, looking at donating as "blessing someone else" with an item can put them in a whole new mindset about decluttering.
A friend of mine's mom has a serious hoarding problem. She did live through the depression so that is probably one factor, but she also lived in an abusive alcoholic marriage with too many mouths to feed, so she ended up with what you might call a trash house. After she had a stroke, her kids found out she was living this way. They hauled many, many tons of stuff out of there, much of it had been destroyed by mice and chipmunks by the time they found it. So sad. That kind of situation really does call for help and intervention, but many of those people are not real amenable to such help, but it must be done regardless due to the obvious health hazards.
Anyway, I'm guessing most people in their 60s might resent something being pushed on them, so the judgment and diplomacy is going to be key - offering help and resources may be appreciated.
I'd love to hear how this turns out for both your families! Please do post and let us know.
A lengthy discussion with my brother has made something clearer - fixing the clutter in Dad's life is going to be a heckuva lot easier than Mom's.
Mom has the baggage of an alcoholic father in her past, and her inability to deal (and being a know-it-all heath professional) has made doing stuff FOR her beyond difficult for many years. Our best bet would seem to clean out all of "OUR" clutter (any kid crap WE can claim as ours) and work (as a team) on Dad's wood shop.
Hopefully with Dad out in the shop, he can help Mom out. (Maybe if Mom sees what US kids can do for Dad, she'd be open to suggestions)
Dad needs more assertiveness, and Mom needs to get over her baggage. Kinda hard to teach old dogs new tricks, though... :wink:
ICEMAN [2fce921]- PAID MEMBER - Nov 21, 2008 4:00 pm (#3408 Total: 3408)
I dont know how to hotlink this S@#t right now!!!
And I still don't know if I got one or not...
Oh well.. no such thing as free is there?
Finally got in. I got a really funny captcha word though.
ha
soooo good.
I have a cold
We used to drink hot Dr. Pepper when they still made it with cane sugar here, but it doesn't taste the same now that they make it with corn syrup.
Hot Dr. Pepper? I bet that could be good.
Oh where, oh where can he be?
With his spoon on one side and fork on the other
Oh where, oh where can he be?
:wink:
my own fault but don't know what happened.
vent vent vent vent
alergies to medications
I hope they will be come available more widely.
Coca-Cola is made with cane sugar for limited markets, but I've never been able to find any.
Not that its any big deal. I switched to water several months ago and pop would probably taste too sweet now anyway.
Ive gotten it from bymore mercado on Payne Ave, before...
and while you're there run across the street to their brand new Taco restaurant....
the owners bought what used to be Reany's bar, and turned it into a taco joint...
Its also more frequently ordered by bigger chains (Rainbow, Cub), around X-mas time.
And what nick said - most of the mexican markets carry 'the real deal' and it still comes in glass usually too.
Sometimes at walmart I see the 6 packs in the glass during the holidays with the santa image on the side too
My blood is all messed up in my legs from taking a new blood thinning injection. It looks like blood clots or hemotoma in both legs now. Damn! :angry:
Here's what I'm taking. Just talked with poison control and they said get to the er ASAP again. Shit!
Hope to talk to you all later :neutral:
Complications suck!
2 the rest of you....you make me sick.... :barf:
comcast sucks
My brother and his wife and 2 kids SHOW UP!!
and the first thing out of Brother mouth should I kick you azz now or later I said tomorrow I will come up to your house if I have to get it kicked at all!!!
Ok it sounded good to me because we are not sopse to fight on this a holiday right that's what I thought!?!?!
but no he takes a swing and falls on his face then Who gets in trouble for starting S!@t with the azz hole you guessed IT ME!!!
So on that Note I hope every one had a good one!!!
SO Since I road up with my mom I have to hear about it the rest of the night!! and not to mention the fact that his 2 kids had to stay here last night so they could go shopping!!! with money they don't have NICE!!! god I hope Kitch gets them!!! lol Any info I will give!!
Did you cook?? If not I would be thankful someone went through the trouble and tried to cook for me and invited me over. Just my two cents, sorry.
Oh, I forgot what thread I was in.
I hate people that hate.
I seriously dunno what to do about this one.
They are 68 and 65 years old. The house is absolutely loaded with clutter (some of which is our old kid stuff) and about 1/3 of it could disappear overnight and never be missed. They are both still working full time.
Mom is a County Nurse and works out of a guest bedroom on a desk that used to be a kitchen countertop. She does not have one single file cabinet in the room, and mountains of paperwork and confidential health records that are locked in basically an old silverware drawer. Nothing in there is appropriate for office work, but she keeps stalling when we bring up the idea of getting her a real desk. She keeps saying she won't need it when she retires, but that's going on 5-6 years now and she's still working.
Dad got contractors to build an addition onto the garage - basically giving him a boat storage space and a nice wood shop area. He likes carpentry, but he hasn't done a thing with that wood shop since it was built. Not a single shelf or pegboard has been put up. His tools sit in piles on top of the saw table, etc... His ONE project - built a Murphy (fold-down) bed for Mom's office room, but he took THREE YEARS to get it done. It should have taken three weekends.
Is it time for an intervention?
I seriously want to do an "Extreme Makover" to both rooms, but we'd have to drag them away kicking and screaming to get it done. I live two hours away - and my 2 brothers live even further. I can't really get them on the same page, either. The real heartbreaking thing is when I was down there for Thanksgiving, I saw a LOT of old Christmas presents - small stuff like DVD movies and board games - still wrapped in plastic - not opened in more than three years. They need HELP not more 'stuff'.
Trying to drive down there every week as some sort of 'caregiver' is probably going to be my duty in a few more years.
I just see visions of a full dumpster in the driveway after the funeral full of crap that should've been thrown ten years ago.
This shed was filled top to bottom with card board boxes of (I'm not kidding you) boxes of old t-shirts that no longer fit that had logo's on them, a box FULL of gloves my dad accquired while working for a steel manufacturing plant for 30 years, several boxes full of old coffee mugs that no one wanted anymore yet of course they were bought as gifts for them or they thought they were to cute to just pitch or donate, boxes of old dolls, and just about anything else you can collect over many many years. Christmas gifts that weren't wanted but they didn't feel they could get rid of them. An entire set of dishes that they replaced with their current set.
I went up there one summer after 2 summers of her wanting my help to reorganize her shed and I told her here is the deal. 60-70% of the stuff has to go or I won't help because reorganizing isn't going to work. It's full top to bottom you'll still never get to anything no matter how nice we stack the boxes. So we clean it out and you knwo what I would guess that 50% of the stuff we had to trash simply because she didn't protect anything and everything was covered in mouse nests and droppigns and yet she was still wanting to salvage stuff covered in feces by saying she could repair it or clean it or whatever because she couldnt' stand the thought of getting rid of anything.
I know this is long, but I thought I would share my story with you. Now 3 years later...her shed is a mess again and accumulating more stuff...the more room you make for your parents...I'm guessing they will find more stuff to fill up the newly opened up and cleaned up space. Good luck with yoru parents, my mom wasn't happy but it needed to be done.
I'm guessing they are overwhelmed with the amount of stuff they have and don't know where to start.
And it is a judgment call as to whether their accumulations are affecting their life or happiness, or what the saving represents.
Also, what the inability to deal with it represents (fear of lack, depression, disorganization, laziness, or normal variation of having stuff in one's home) is a judgment call.
If they know they need to declutter but want to do it themselves, perhaps some organizational tools or books might help them get started and see that it does not have to be overwhelming.
If they are receptive to help, that is great! I actually do best at decluttering if I just have someone around for moral support, but I'm mostly doing it myself, just asking for an opinion on some things, or asking if my sons want certain items before I donate them.
If they are online at all, there are websites that they can follow for decluttering tasks of the day. One such site is www.flylady.com (geared to homemakers, but useful to others as well).
If they are tackling it themselves, over time, just keeping it manageable is the key. Five minutes or fifteen minutes a day, and never get so much out that you can't get it put back.
You could give them containers to sort into (boxes, bins, or sturdy mesh laundry containers that pop into shape):
PUT AWAY
GIVE AWAY
THROW AWAY
Often, looking at donating as "blessing someone else" with an item can put them in a whole new mindset about decluttering.
A friend of mine's mom has a serious hoarding problem. She did live through the depression so that is probably one factor, but she also lived in an abusive alcoholic marriage with too many mouths to feed, so she ended up with what you might call a trash house. After she had a stroke, her kids found out she was living this way. They hauled many, many tons of stuff out of there, much of it had been destroyed by mice and chipmunks by the time they found it. So sad. That kind of situation really does call for help and intervention, but many of those people are not real amenable to such help, but it must be done regardless due to the obvious health hazards.
Anyway, I'm guessing most people in their 60s might resent something being pushed on them, so the judgment and diplomacy is going to be key - offering help and resources may be appreciated.
I'd love to hear how this turns out for both your families! Please do post and let us know.
Mom has the baggage of an alcoholic father in her past, and her inability to deal (and being a know-it-all heath professional) has made doing stuff FOR her beyond difficult for many years. Our best bet would seem to clean out all of "OUR" clutter (any kid crap WE can claim as ours) and work (as a team) on Dad's wood shop.
Hopefully with Dad out in the shop, he can help Mom out. (Maybe if Mom sees what US kids can do for Dad, she'd be open to suggestions)
Dad needs more assertiveness, and Mom needs to get over her baggage. Kinda hard to teach old dogs new tricks, though... :wink:
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