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Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
There are groups you have to pay for? Most of the other discussion I have seen is on Facebook.
The parks in White Bear Lake are kind of small parks. It seems a little odd they would point you to those this early. I kind of wonder if it could be on public land not in a park. Like if you were to count the streets down to a theoretical 0, you'd be at the intersection of 96 and 61. The one way Lake Ave also comes out there, and Bald Eagle Parkway dead ends there in a little loop with a little bit of green in the middle of the loop. So maybe something like that or along the railroad tracks there.

AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
That idk, probably not, I'm just throwing thoughts out there to see if they may make sense to anyone else, as Allison's group here is the only non pay group I can talk in. And trying to be friendly. 
cheebiechi@...

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
Would they blatantly give the park in clue 7? Especially if it's the same clue writer as last year?
kristen.sommerville@... (Kristen)

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
And yet another noodle,
11=Apollo 11, looking at what I love is the ground,
And of course a Beagle is a mainly a sniffer of ground.
Rocket ship slide maybe? 
cheebiechi@...

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
Think this clue and no oncoming dread is specifically Lake Ave - the closest road to WBL.
Part of Lake Ave runs as County Road 96 but a stretch from Memorial Beach/ west pro runs as a one way street starting at 11th and going past 1st.
Parks passed along the way are Memorial Beach/West Park and Matoska. This is actually very informative since it would seemingly tel you to avoid the other large park on the shores of WBL : County Park.
See you all out there
acpickerign@... (Archie Pickerign)

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
And posey is referring to yoga poses, I think. There are a few yoga studios around WBL; one just west of West Park.
leelabell@... (leelabell)

Re: Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
Well this definitely has me thinking White Bear Lake as the streets on the east side of 61 go from 1st St to 11th St. There's a McDonald's on 10 (lovin' it?). It's next to Rudy's Redeye Steak House which I suppose a beagle might love to sniff. There's a few parks close to there on the lake. Or a little farther is Matoska Park with the White Bear Dog Beach. Somewhere in that area sounds promising at the moment.
AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Clue #7

5 years 2 months ago
Here is the new clue:

Clue #7
Count down from eleven and you’ll be in heaven Flying high as would an eagle. Look down from above to find what you love Then sniff out the prize like a beagle
And here are the previous clues:

Clue #6

Escape the heat, cook and eat

At this playland far from the masses.

A place to recover or even take cover –

Life here was slow as molasses.

 

Clue #5

Things looked rosy, a pocketful of posey.
We remember it all too well.
We were happy back then but beyond our ken:
It soon would all go to hell.

 

Clue #4

We’re moving ahead, no oncoming dread.

Our future’s in our hands.

This new term is about what’s firm

Let’s avoid the shifting sands.

 

Clue #3

No time, old sport, to play and cavort.

Pursue the grail with your schemes!

Out at night? Then follow the light

To cross the way to your dreams.

 

Clue #2

Stay away from links and risky hijinks.

Disturb not ground, tree or trail.

Don’t wait for last clue to know what to do;

This year you’ll figure or fail.

 

Clue #1

Be it turmoil endemic or global pandemic

It’s been a tough year for us all.

So rather than punt, we renewed this year’s hunt:

Join us, it’ll be a ball!

 

Don’t be odd, stay in your pod.

Keep six feet away from strangers.

Wear a mask when on your task

To keep all safe from dangers.

AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

My ideas

5 years 2 months ago

I haven't posted in a while. The first couple of clues I thought the clue writer was referring to the present pandemic, or maybe an historical reference to the Spanish flu of 1918/1919. So, I tried to connect parks history with 1918.I started to veer toward Harriet Island, hoping that Harriet Tubman was a math ('figure') teacher. She was a public school teacher, not necessarily math. I thought 'old sport' line could be referring to a dog owner talking to their dog ( a dog park nearby), or 'old sport' might literally mean a very old sport like the Hmong Tuj Lub, which has a field in Phalen-Keller Regional Park, referenced in a previous Treasure Hunt. But then, I googled 'old sport' and got a line from The Great Gatsby, by the St. Paul born F. Scott Fitzgerald. I looked where he was born and found a nondescript park near his birth home in St. Paul. Then, other clues led me back to the river area (shifting sands, etc.) so I read up on F. Scott Fitzgerald and The Great Gatsby and found a connection to boating. Aha!, I thought. The Minnesota Boat Club, on Raspberry Island is close to Harriet Island. And F. Scott and Zelda used to stay at/frequent the White Bear Yacht Club in White Bear Lake. There is the St. Paul Yacht Club at Harriet Island, if the Fitzgerald link is just to imply a St. Paul park. Then a clue about 'shifting sands' again told me a park on the Mississippi River, the clue about not 'punting' (a punt is a type of flat-bottomed boat) means going for it, or full steam ahead, which led me to think of the steamboats/riverboats at Harriet Island. When you are on the river  you want to avoid the 'shifting sand bars' or you'll run aground. Then clue 5 came out and I thought maybe the clue writer(s) were harking back to the time(s) they had egg on their faces in 2004 (putting the medallion in a real donut, only to have some animal transport it to a different hiding place, not referred to in the clues) or 2007, when it was found at Hidden Falls Park after only 3 clues because the hider forgot about their footprints in the snow being discovered leading to the hiding spot. so, I looked up the clues to these hunts of 2004 and 2007. I found out that the word 'level' led to the Cleveland Street name that led the finders to the medallion. So, I looked on google maps for Hidden Falls Park and I find a Kenneth Street down from Cleveland (ave/st) leading to Hidden Falls. The 'beyond our ken' clue made me think it was at Hidden Falls, beyond/down from Kenneth St. So, the river was still in play. The 'it'll be a ball' clue was a reference again to the red balls on the power lines that cross the river near Hidden Falls. There's a dog park in Minnehaha Park across from Hidden Falls. Then, Clue 6 comes out and, to me, it screams COMO Park. So, I searched some more on google for history, and I couldn't connect everything in the clue(s) to Como. The 'life as slow as molasses' still made me think of a Mark Twain quote or something about life on the Mississippi River, something maybe Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn would have said. So, I searched some more on Mark Twin, and in his book 'Life On the Mississippi', there is a chapter on White Bear Lake (talking about the legend  of how the name came about form Indian ( Native American) lore. Then I looked up history of White Bear Lake and found that some of the gangsters of the '30's would hide out here  and how there are some drug/alcohol rehabilitation centers here ('a place to cover and recover'), how the Native Americans had/made maple sugar ( the 'slow as molasses' maybe referring to the 1919 Boston Molasses Flood disaster) in the area, and how it was a summer resort for people escaping the life of the cities, etc. So, now, I think, White Bear Lake park is the spot, as long as it's in Ramsey County.

alfabob1@...

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
we were out earlier and had seen some action at Central Park, more so on the east end.
Im finding it hard to nail down a single park. Out at night? follow the light has been in my head for a bit
cheebiechi@...

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
clue 5 is giving me a swede hollow vibe - life was old fashioned (hence the childhood game reference) but then it went all to hell when the city came and destroyed the houses.
anabug@... (Molly Widstrom)

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
I was looking back at clue 3 which mentions schemes maybe rhyming schemes, you could change the "follow the light" to fort to rhyme with cavort.  probably a stretch.
homeskillet40@... (homeskillet)

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
Matoska Park has a gazebo and its used for weddings it might fit the "no time for cold feet", across the lake from dellwood where fitz hung out. small park though and I believe others have scoped out or even dug it up.
homeskillet40@... (homeskillet)

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
I didn't even think about what county Birchwood was in. I guess that explains why I never heard of the park near there.
As for Central, certainly "rosey" would make you think of that. If you believe the clues are making references to 2007, that might also put you at Central. There's probably more but I haven't looked at it that much.

AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago
It seems like there is a lot of interest in Central Park but I don’t see it in the clues?  What am I missing? 
mnjan36@... (MNRed)

Re: Clue #6

5 years 2 months ago

Escape the heat makes me think swimming. WBL is starting to sound interesting. 

picnic shelter might be too obvious but I got nothin better  


Now I just have to go back and make all the clues fit. Lol

mnjan36@... (MNRed)
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