I haven't read all the posts about this clue 7, yet. I read the clue just after midnight, and started researching past Treasure Hunts, especially those that were in Como Park. Some of these clues seemed familiar to those. And in 2003, there was the obscure clue about a woman who 'fled the man and ran and ran, was a carpenter's beau (should have been belle) and left with a Walker. The PP clue explanation said it was about a certain named woman who killed her husband, escaped from jail and hid out in or near Como park with a man (her nephew, she claimed) named John Walker. I googled the woman's name and found a PP story written by Jim Ragsdale (former Treasure Hunt Clue writer, deceased 2014) in 2000 about the execution of the woman. A lot of these clues seem to be in his style. So Clue 7 had me thinking it's referring to either George Santos, or possibly Ed Phelan, who was acquitted of murdering a business partner, but left the area in disgrace and moved to California. If that is the interpretation, then Phalen Park may be the place. Another play on the East (Phalen) West (Como) clue. Just random thoughts.
The Barker=Karpis gang kidnapped William Hamm of the Hamm's Brewery family and released him after getting a ransom from the family. There is the Hamm memorial waterfall that looks directly over the Como Lakeside pavilion where the waltzing and leisure sports (get up at leisure = paddleboarding) take place. " Strap on your glove, look up above (from where you walzing and not down by the parking lot).
There is a parking lot down below the waterfall by the pavilion and a circular walk area above the waterfall. Don't search down by the parking lots (one on each side of the pavilion). I wonder if these clues are now leading us around the walking paths of the park. The CW has sent us all over the park, which he talked about at the beginning, "all around the town", but may now be honing in a bit.
Here is what I am wondering????? Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle - If you go down Churchill street to the end you get to the USS Swordfish memorial Defend your liberties and rights - then you walk over to Lexington on the walking path Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold - walk by the Labyrinth because many of these are made into silver and gold necklaces By keeping the prize in your sights - I think you keep looking in the direction of the prize the whole time (If we can figure out where that is). hahahaha
The Gates ajar are in there too above the parking lot and then the Hamm memorial waterfalls. Not all paths are connected but it is interesting that Kaufman Dr. (from the Right Stuff) leads right into the parking lot by the labyrinth the frog pond and walking paths up there.
Just noodling a bit. Heading over there to wander around. Will report back.
This clue has me a bit flummoxed. Cant wait for the early edition.
if I were going to make a connection to cars themselves, the new “Midway Peace Park” could make some connections. Adjacent to the now demolished Prom Ballroom which hosted BUDDY Holly a week before his untimely death. The lot was a parking lot for one of the auto row dealers ( Buick I think) before auto row left university Ave in the early aughts. This would be a very morbid clue if that was the intent.
That said, a small park, and all of the allusions to battle would seem to defy a peace park.
It seems to me to be saying move yourself away from parking - the recent silverwood and Harriet funds were both parking lots ( silverwood was in an overflow lot) so perhaps that’s the main thrust.
Actually if I had to guess who this little story was about in Clue 7, I'd say it sounds like Denny Hecker. But I'm not sure where that would get you. David
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 09:55:03 AM CST, Eicemann via groups.io <eicemann7@...> wrote:
Embedded in the last line is a lyric from a song by the Animals. Could refer to Como zoo
Not sure if this was already talked about but, in looking back at my previous theory of a tribute hunt. The 2015 hunt was tribute to Jim Ragsdale, whose first hunt in 2002 contains clues that are very similar to this hunt. In 2002 the puck was found on the ground in the middle of a baseball diamond, stuck to a tortilla chip can liner.
Been working on a theory: S is for Snail Lake Regional Park
I think this is a tribute hunt for Herb Howe One of the very first legends in snowmobile racing – and an ambassador of the sport – has died at the age of 91.
Herb Howe won the very first super-endurance race in snowmobiling: the 457-mile cross-country International 500 from Winnipeg, Manitoba, to St. Paul, Minnesota, in 1966.
I thought about other tribute hunts, and I believe 2015 was one of them.
I think in the description of it on Cooler Crew it talks about disgrace in a funny way, Congratulations go to Steve Worthman, The Map Guy, and well-known writer of The Treasure Hunter's Guide, for cracking the clues and picking up the ice-encased chunk of rags which encased the medallion. In addition to the new member of the Cooler Crew Hall of Fame, we also add Coldest Hunter, Steve Sanftner, to the Wall of Shame, for inadvertently turning over the block of ice and throwing it in Mappy's direction.
I went out there yesterday and this morning, found an orange cone stuck in the ice but no medallion. The parking lot is closed off in one area so the people can sled down the hill. The snow is thick and well its cold too.
If the puck is buried in the 1966 spot, the year of Herb's conquest that would be Harriet Island.
Thanks. The Winter Carnival Scavenger Hunts start this morning so I was up most of the night getting those ready and didn't get to posting the new clue.. I believe this clue is telling us Victoria St. though that doesn't really narrow it down between Como and Central. There is a Rose St. that goes into Como by Victoria so I imagine we'll be getting a rose clue next! David
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 07:59:18 AM CST, <jotiff1@...> wrote:
#7 Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far Killing it down where they park the car But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace Better pack up and get outta this place
#7 Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far Killing it down where they park the car But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace Better pack up and get outta this place
My last two messages did not go through. Anyways I have been at Como today and yesterday. Today there were a lot more hunters. The biggest crowd was on the south side of the lake, but I saw a few all over. My post this morning said to recheck the Como Town kiddie rides. The Pirate ride convinced me over Central Park. Both parks had Oxford, Churchhill and Lexington streets to name a few. The snow is very difficult to dig in so I believe this hunt could go a long time. The snowbanks are also rockhard. It has been hard digging.... Good luck to all!
were getting fat with all these high carb noodles! Good work crew
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:53:45 AM CST, Michele Caldwell <hagb0002@...> wrote:
I think I am convinced... In the book, The USS Swordfish: The World War II Patrols of the First American Submarine to Sink a Japanese Ship by George J. Billy: