Jim the Freight Train: Sorry for the mix-up!! BTW I think I'm starting to lean twords Cherokee. (It's old stomping grounds, and dear to the heart). Good Luck J.t.F.T.
Desire-to-win: I didn't say that we were very smart kids, we chose thoes suicide runs on tracks down the bluff. Yes it was stupid, but as kids we thought we were invinceable.
I've been wondering about sledding at Cherokee Park. That's my personal odds-on favorite location right now, but I took the Rosebud clue pretty literally and didn't want to dig in a spot with no sledding. So, Snowball2, do kids really zoom on the bluffs in Cherokee? (I also noted yesterday on a map that "Joy" street runs through Cherokee -- all those references to "pleasure" in the clues???) I'm a first-timer at this. Am I just on smack? Love to hear feedback.
Wee Monster: You're the first to bring up Joy=Pleasure... Maybe you're on to something particularly if the sledding done at Cherokee is done near Joy Street. Snowball2?
Desire-to-win: If you know where the shallow ballfield is (where 13 cuts by Annapolis), we would follow the bluff line for about 40 yards (by the old stump). The old stump is where we would hook our sled ropes so we could get in our sleds, and one of our sane friends would release us. We would pack down the snow in a track(kind of like a warter slide) between the trees in a zig-zag fassion down the bluff. Many cuts and scrapes were had by all, even a few broken bones (try dragging a cring kid, with a broken leg, in a sled up the bluff, IT SUCKS.) I don't know if the kids are still doing it, or if a lot of that area of the bluff has eroded away. It's been quite a long time since I've broken my arm.
Mr. Kow It All -- What are your feelings on Newell? -- I've been to the Frog Pond now a few times and, well, we alomost found it there last year, but I don't think it's there.
Has anyone been down at the paper at night yet? if so how are the crowds? It was sad reading todays qlue, it still leaves it up in the air for a couple different locations.
I am starting to think it is not in one of the larger parks. I thought Highland was the strongest until the plume of smoke thing; I'd have to drive around the park to see if there is an answer to that one. The lack of a park specific clue by now also indicates a smaller park, for the large ones take a while to whittle down. If only I could figure out a dome for Newell... Be warned, though, you can read way too much into the clues (something I think alot of us are doing). Every word does not contain an obscure meaning.
RC We definitely did NOT establish the Rosebud as the Indian Mounds tribe. Rosebud (as was kindly mailed to me) is a reservation in SD containing several tribes of Sioux. I thought I had heard the Mounds predated the Dakota, but I may well be wrong. I still maintain Rosebud's primary meaning has to do with a sled or I'll eat those papers!
CK1 I am glad to see someone besides me is desperately clinging to Newell! Help me rationalize a dome clue, and I'll be back on track! By the way, the phrase just quoted may have nothing to do with trains; it may be a hint that the prize is not in a big park (like Mounds or Highland), but is in a small one like Prospect (or Newell). Love to Fortis!
Pat Pfundstein: Talking to some of the family in Highland. They said when the Ford Plant's Stack emits, it fills the sky!!! Don't know if you want to rule it out yet??
FOR R.C. AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE,,THE MOUNDS ONCE HELD HOPEWELL INDIANS WHO LIVED IN THE AREA ABOUT 1,000 B.C. NOT THE SIOUX. AND ANOTHER THING-IT'S NOT IN MOUNDS PARK !!! AND THE SMOKE STACK IS THE NSP STACK .
SNOWBALL2 you sound like you have been in this hunt for many a year. I noticed you ruled out Highland. What is your gut fell right now as to what park it's in?
What is wrong with you people. It's not Newell, the last time it was there they ripped it up pretty bad. I don't think they would put it there again. The only park that fits all the clues so far is Mounds. Unless you read too much into them. The rosebud clue has nothing to do with Indians it's a seld for the love of god. Please go rent "citizen kane". You all sould look back at the old clues and see how much can be read into them. Not much, they are pretty clear.
J: WAIT!!! Highland is still on one my list, I havn't ruled it out. Sorry if I somehow gave you this impression. Highland is on my possible list, as well as Newell, and Phalen/Keller, not my probable list. Probable lists include the fore-runners-Cherokee, Mounds, and Prospect Terrace.
J: A few other Highland leads is in clue #1 the mention of "luck ONE" and I believe in clue #3 the comment of "FIRST". When you put these together you come up with 1 and 1 to make 11. The two water towers are very close to the 11th hole on the Highland Golf Course. HGC is extreemly fussy about people digging for the med. on their course. But this area of the course is under a face lift and is currently ripped up. This is not an invite to trample, but surley food for thought.
Well I have to believe alot of you are reading to much into the clues as I've done in the past. Reading thru the history of the clues from past years I have noticed that they really tell you the boundries around where its at (which park). Most of them descibe what it's covered, wrap or bound in. I like the idea of the rosebud pasta container idea. I really believe thats what it's in. My hsuband is stuck on highland park.
CK1, Frog pond!?!?! I dug there last night and it isn't on or under the frog as far as I can tell.
kidding aside: I'm a believer in the "delay in naming the park = it is a small park" theory. If it were something like Highland, they would have had us all there by now because it would take so long to search. Swami sez: Cherokee or Prospect.
SNOWBALL2, because of your experience I value your opinion. I'm still stuck on Mounds, but Cherokee is coming on strong. I wish todays qlue would have put me over the hump to a definite park.
Looks like everyone stopped for lunch.I'm off to the Gopher Bar for a couple coney dogs and then on to Mounds.Good luck to all it should be a crazy time out there with the good weather.
You can see that stack from Hudson, I still dont think the clues have narrowed it down. p.s. i've seen a few stacks at casey's bar - are there any parks down that way?
If you have the "Treasure Hunters Guide", look up Cherokee Park. It states: "...offers quite a view of the river valley, ESPECIALLY views of the CATHEDRAL (dome #1), CAPITOL(dome #2), DOWNTOWN (city streets), LANDMARK BREWERY, NSP POWER PLANT (smoke stack)...vast woods and brush that predominate this bluff(water-MISS. woods-obvious)...stretches for about a mile from Annapolis Street(again city streets)..." There are train tracks (quite a lot of them, in fact) accross the river. And it is, as the NAME suggests, on higher ground!!!
And for those of you who still think it's at Mounds, "a plume of smoke in the skies" is a constant, steady stream of smoke. The smoke trains put up is NOT constant or staedy. Not to mention the clue says "A" plume of skoke, as in ONE.
Past years clues and explanations always reference the container the medallion is inside. The Rosebud just might be referencing the container. Maybe considering other places, such as warmer places, were kids zoom in the summertime might be a place to look. Again, not a sledding place.
I'm with you, Wanderer. I was thinking of Cherokee, but couldn't figure out how "dome" was related. I don't have the "Guide"--where can I get it? Is it online anywhere?
Everyone keeps saying all cluse fit Mounds, I don't get it...I see the code clue with demo and mode making dome which is like a mound but I think thats reaching. Heading out to Mounds now to take a look around...gut feeling says Phalen. Cherokee, in 93 gave a smoke stacks clue I don't think they would do that again, and Newell hasn't fit any clues yet. Oh well Good luck
Hi everyone! I just got back from searching Arlington Fields on my lunch hour. It looks like a few people have been there, but not many. A lot of the clues fit, but no luck :-(. I guess I'm on the wrong "track" - haha. There is a huge dome there though, and a sliding hill, and a place where kids like to play (batting cages). But that's about all. No smokestack.
Just a quick thought. There are two Mounds Parks, the smaller park north west a few blocks of the larger. The BOOK says "this is high ground", so we checked it out last night. You can see the beacon, the one, theres a playground, etc. We found it odd that the gate was open at 11pm, and the lot plowed, but realized that there is utility garage there. The smoke stack may draw me across the river tonight. Prospect seems too residential, people may complain. Patrick Mc's tonight for starters. Sax, yeah I changed my pict, sorry for any confusion. Maybe I'll use the other for live updates only! Luck everyone. Waiting for 11:30pm....
no one has sold me on the dome thing. I have not yet rueled out mounds but now I have my doubts. does anyone realize there are rr tracks below cheroke. tell me what you think.
I'm saying its a word game. it's for sure in Mounds Park and that is a urban park Mound the city is a word game to give you the Suburban part.
Thanks Keast I misunderstood you. Everybody thinks its in Mounds, so why are we still at work and not out digging?
Jim the Freight Train: Sorry for the mix-up!! BTW I think I'm starting to lean twords Cherokee. (It's old stomping grounds, and dear to the heart). Good Luck J.t.F.T.
Thanks Snowball2, Jim the Freight Train is pulling out of the station to look for the medallion.
How can it be at Cherokee because I was there yesterday and there is no sledding unless you want to fall off of the bluffs?
Where did everybody go?
im still here desire i still think its at mounds
Desire-to-win: I didn't say that we were very smart kids, we chose thoes suicide runs on tracks down the bluff. Yes it was stupid, but as kids we thought we were invinceable.
Where did you go sledding? The area is full of trees and then bluffs. What location in Cherokee Park could possibly be used for sledding?
it can not be at mounds the clues really dont point to mounds
more of charokee park
I've been wondering about sledding at Cherokee Park. That's my personal odds-on favorite location right now, but I took the Rosebud clue pretty literally and didn't want to dig in a spot with no sledding. So, Snowball2, do kids really zoom on the bluffs in Cherokee? (I also noted yesterday on a map that "Joy" street runs through Cherokee -- all those references to "pleasure" in the clues???) I'm a first-timer at this. Am I just on smack? Love to hear feedback.
Thanks Snowball2: I've got my Hudsons map book in one hand and my sled in the other. Desire-to-win is out of here but will check in later.
Wee Monster: You're the first to bring up Joy=Pleasure... Maybe you're on to something particularly if the sledding done at Cherokee is done near Joy Street. Snowball2?
looked up plume in the dictionary and it says "visible emission from a chimney flue"that means mounds is out, gone,later,see ya, get lost!!!!!!!
Jake's wild crazy assumption
Swede Hollow Park
St. Paul park
Water=creek Woods=woods in park, Wood place street going into park
Roses or Rosebud possible reference to the movie with the Rosebud
sleds there is a hill in Swede Hollow but it is super steep and you
would definitely go ZOOM. Or Arcade Street which is very nearby and an
arcade is a good place to play in the winter. demo and mode refer
to the 2 domes of the cathedral and capitol, deco is on the dome of the
cathedral. According to my fiances park book, there is a large smokestack
visible from Swede Hollow park. Doesn't the NSP plant have 2 smokestacks?
plume is singular only 1 plume of smoke. RR tracks? there used to be some
at Swede Hollow but they were removed. Questions I have (mother lode)
possible connection to Bob Dole? What was his mother's name? Who knows?
Good Luck hunters!!
Desire-to-win: If you know where the shallow ballfield is (where 13 cuts by Annapolis), we would follow the bluff line for about 40 yards (by the old stump). The old stump is where we would hook our sled ropes so we could get in our sleds, and one of our sane friends would release us. We would pack down the snow in a track(kind of like a warter slide) between the trees in a zig-zag fassion down the bluff. Many cuts and scrapes were had by all, even a few broken bones (try dragging a cring kid, with a broken leg, in a sled up the bluff, IT SUCKS.) I don't know if the kids are still doing it, or if a lot of that area of the bluff has eroded away. It's been quite a long time since I've broken my arm.
greenslvs2: I never made the joy street connection, it's kind of flat for sledding, but JOY IS PLEASURABLE!!!
GOOD CALL Wee Monster!!!
Desire-to-win: Good Luck!!!!
Mr. Kow It All -- What are your feelings on Newell? -- I've been to the Frog Pond now a few times and, well, we alomost found it there last year, but I don't think it's there.
Has anyone been down at the paper at night yet? if so how are the crowds? It was sad reading todays qlue, it still leaves it up in the air for a couple different locations.
I am starting to think it is not in one of the larger parks. I thought Highland was the strongest until the plume of smoke thing; I'd have to drive around the park to see if there is an answer to that one. The lack of a park specific clue by now also indicates a smaller park, for the large ones take a while to whittle down. If only I could figure out a dome for Newell... Be warned, though, you can read way too much into the clues (something I think alot of us are doing). Every word does not contain an obscure meaning.
RC We definitely did NOT establish the Rosebud as the Indian Mounds tribe. Rosebud (as was kindly mailed to me) is a reservation in SD containing several tribes of Sioux. I thought I had heard the Mounds predated the Dakota, but I may well be wrong. I still maintain Rosebud's primary meaning has to do with a sled or I'll eat those papers!
CK1 I am glad to see someone besides me is desperately clinging to Newell! Help me rationalize a dome clue, and I'll be back on track! By the way, the phrase just quoted may have nothing to do with trains; it may be a hint that the prize is not in a big park (like Mounds or Highland), but is in a small one like Prospect (or Newell). Love to Fortis!
Pat Pfundstein: Talking to some of the family in Highland. They said when the Ford Plant's Stack emits, it fills the sky!!! Don't know if you want to rule it out yet??
FOR R.C. AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE,,THE MOUNDS ONCE HELD HOPEWELL INDIANS WHO LIVED IN THE AREA ABOUT 1,000 B.C. NOT THE SIOUX. AND ANOTHER THING-IT'S NOT IN MOUNDS PARK !!! AND THE SMOKE STACK IS THE NSP STACK .
SNOWBALL2 you sound like you have been in this hunt for many a year. I noticed you ruled out Highland. What is your gut fell right now as to what park it's in?
No input here, just help me -- how do I get rid of this green picture? I want something cool and small -- like what youv'e got, Pat! Help?
I think you can still see the NSP stack from highland or am I mistaken.
What is wrong with you people. It's not Newell, the last time it was there they ripped it up pretty bad. I don't think they would put it there again. The only park that fits all the clues so far is Mounds. Unless you read too much into them. The rosebud clue has nothing to do with Indians it's a seld for the love of god. Please go rent "citizen kane". You all sould look back at the old clues and see how much can be read into them. Not much, they are pretty clear.
J: WAIT!!! Highland is still on one my list, I havn't ruled it out. Sorry if I somehow gave you this impression. Highland is on my possible list, as well as Newell, and Phalen/Keller, not my probable list. Probable lists include the fore-runners-Cherokee, Mounds, and Prospect Terrace.
J: A few other Highland leads is in clue #1 the mention of "luck ONE" and I believe in clue #3 the comment of "FIRST". When you put these together you come up with 1 and 1 to make 11. The two water towers are very close to the 11th hole on the Highland Golf Course. HGC is extreemly fussy about people digging for the med. on their course. But this area of the course is under a face lift and is currently ripped up. This is not an invite to trample, but surley food for thought.
Sorry, SNOWBALL2 I thought you ruled it out.But back to the question, if you had to dig right now where would you go?
J: The plume of smoke would lead me to the NSP plant and Cherokee.
Well I have to believe alot of you are reading to much into the clues as I've done in the past. Reading thru the history of the clues from past years I have noticed that they really tell you the boundries around where its at (which park). Most of them descibe what it's covered, wrap or bound in. I like the idea of the rosebud pasta container idea. I really believe thats what it's in. My hsuband is stuck on highland park.
CK1, Frog pond!?!?! I dug there last night and it isn't on or under the frog as far as I can tell.
kidding aside: I'm a believer in the "delay in naming the park = it is a small park" theory. If it were something like Highland, they would have had us all there by now because it would take so long to search. Swami sez: Cherokee or Prospect.
SNOWBALL2, because of your experience I value your opinion. I'm still stuck on Mounds, but Cherokee is coming on strong. I wish todays qlue would have put me over the hump to a definite park.
Looks like everyone stopped for lunch.I'm off to the Gopher Bar for a couple coney dogs and then on to Mounds.Good luck to all it should be a crazy time out there with the good weather.
Good Luck J, and have a dog for me!!! (Damn they're good.)
You can see that stack from Hudson, I still dont think the clues have narrowed it down. p.s. i've seen a few stacks at casey's bar - are there any parks down that way?
REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S CHEROKEE HEIGHTS:
If you have the "Treasure Hunters Guide", look up Cherokee Park. It states: "...offers quite a view of the river valley, ESPECIALLY views of the CATHEDRAL (dome #1), CAPITOL(dome #2), DOWNTOWN (city streets), LANDMARK BREWERY, NSP POWER PLANT (smoke stack)...vast woods and brush that predominate this bluff(water-MISS. woods-obvious)...stretches for about a mile from Annapolis Street(again city streets)..." There are train tracks (quite a lot of them, in fact) accross the river. And it is, as the NAME suggests, on higher ground!!!
Godd Luck to ALL, for I'm out until Mon. am.
Have to head to Duluth!!!
And for those of you who still think it's at Mounds, "a plume of smoke in the skies" is a constant, steady stream of smoke. The smoke trains put up is NOT constant or staedy. Not to mention the clue says "A" plume of skoke, as in ONE.
Past years clues and explanations always reference the container the medallion is inside. The Rosebud just might be referencing the container. Maybe considering other places, such as warmer places, were kids zoom in the summertime might be a place to look. Again, not a sledding place.
There are some pretty steep sledding hills a Cherokee. I'm not sure I would jump on that right away.
I'm with you, Wanderer. I was thinking of Cherokee, but couldn't figure out how "dome" was related. I don't have the "Guide"--where can I get it? Is it online anywhere?
Everyone keeps saying all cluse fit Mounds, I don't get it...I see the code clue with demo and mode making dome which is like a mound but I think thats reaching. Heading out to Mounds now to take a look around...gut feeling says Phalen. Cherokee, in 93 gave a smoke stacks clue I don't think they would do that again, and Newell hasn't fit any clues yet. Oh well Good luck
Hi everyone! I just got back from searching Arlington Fields on my lunch hour. It looks like a few people have been there, but not many. A lot of the clues fit, but no luck :-(. I guess I'm on the wrong "track" - haha. There is a huge dome there though, and a sliding hill, and a place where kids like to play (batting cages). But that's about all. No smokestack.
Just a quick thought. There are two Mounds Parks, the smaller park north west a few blocks of the larger. The BOOK says "this is high ground", so we checked it out last night. You can see the beacon, the one, theres a playground, etc. We found it odd that the gate was open at 11pm, and the lot plowed, but realized that there is utility garage there. The smoke stack may draw me across the river tonight. Prospect seems too residential, people may complain. Patrick Mc's tonight for starters. Sax, yeah I changed my pict, sorry for any confusion. Maybe I'll use the other for live updates only! Luck everyone. Waiting for 11:30pm....
no one has sold me on the dome thing. I have not yet rueled out mounds but now I have my doubts. does anyone realize there are rr tracks below cheroke. tell me what you think.
Where is Cherokee? How do I get there from the old Scmidt brewery?