So this is west of the parking lot and close to the high bridge? I think Yahoo maps has it pinpointed wrong. I remember being in that area after the Memorial Day fireworks, so I kind of think I know the area you mean. I suppose that area could fit moreso than the main part of the park.
Well if it is on Harriet Island, I say we rent a tent for the rehash as it's quite windy down there and there isn't really a place we can go and all keep warm.
So when you say Harriet Island, you are actually talking about the "wild" part way to the west. And there are caves over there and a bait shop with a flag on it? If that's the case, then I could maybe see that being the spot. I may have to go look at it tomorrow in the daylight when one can see the Capitol.
Hello all insomniacs! (and To You Artemis) Burrr it's cooolld out there. Still, a great clue to noodle. I'm frozen, Hannah said she could hunt all night, but she dosen't have any exposed skin, now does she?
If it is there, that seems a bit sad. That means all that's left now is to go out on to a frigid, windy, desolate part of the park and sift through grass and leaves until someone gets lucky and finds the right spot.
Yes, I like the puzzle of it. I don't care much for going out in the cold and digging through snow or raking through leaves. I just want to solve the puzzle. If that's the solution to the puzzle, the rest is kind of anti-climatical. The only reason I actually go out and physically look for the thing is to hopefully win the money, but that hope only carries me so far.
Stocking the fridge with sodas (faygo for the klownz);coffee, hot chocolate and chai tea for the chilly hunters coming back in. And a muffin basket. Night all!
IM, HI and a few select streets downtown. I needs to get me one of those mirror sticks. I think they may come in pretty handy this year. How cool would it be if the PP released a clue that took us a couple of blocks away. Everyone would do the mad dash from the PP over to, lets say Robert St. All in front of the cameras. CRAZY I tells ya!
By the way, if it is found tomorrow, how about a Pity Party at Fabulous Fern's in the bar area in the evening? You can come after the Superbowl if you want to watch it, or earlier if you don't. Or you can probably watch it there. That's assuming it's found sometime in the daylight hours.
And also, for those that didn't feel like you got your share of hunting in this year, remember, my Mock Hunt will be coming up at the beginning of March, probably starting on Sunday, March 9th. It's modeled after this hunt, only I write the clues for it. Last year we might have had as many as 100 people participating and we had a prize of $500. It was hidden in Phalen and went 11 clues. The year before was Linwood and I think that went 12 clues. So if you're interested in participating in that, either keep an eye out on these message boards or join my Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theallisonwonderland/and I'll send out announcements about it.
Also, I'm planning a murder mystery weekend up in Two Harbors on the weekend of February 28th-March 2nd. The mystery will actually be based on a treasure hunt, only this one you get to solve from within the cozy comfort of a Superior Shores luxury resort lake house. We have space for 10 people to go as it's a 3 bedroom house with a loft and a sofa sleeper in the living room. The weekend includes accomodations, food for the weekend, a five person hot tub, and the mystery which will span from Friday night to Saturday night. The total cost is $80 per person. I just thought I'd mention it now while I have everyone's attention still. :-)
K T - Hello all insomniacs! (and To You Artemis) Burrr it's cooolld out there. Still, a great clue to noodle. I'm frozen, Hannah said she could hunt all night, but she dosen't have any exposed skin, now does she?
Hiya KT! Missed ya sloggin :( Hope we see you and Hannah out in the park! I'm gonna get some sleep so I can get some daylight searching in ;-)
I like 3 diff. areas at Harriet-The east side, the west side, and the middle :-) Did Marley tell you he found the 3 E's? I'm gonna try and get some sleep now so I can get some daylight searching in! See y'all in the afternoon :-)
Spent several hours down by the bait shop tonight, found out alot of ideas for the area that match, but as with all of the parks I've been in so far this year, I have found an equal amount of things that make no sense at all. Keep in mind that the reason there were so many people in the west end, beyond Harriet Island tonight was because it is a)A Weekend -- notice how many joined the search that weren't doing it at all during the week. b) The last clue had lure in it and that was the only bait shop anyone could think of obviously. Many things match down there, and I am not saying that it's not down there, but I still think it's a wide open game...and that makes me smile. Take care all and good night.
I was pretty sure about Harriet, now I can also see the merits of Indian Mounds...still haven't found anything for clue 8 tho...so I'm gonna hit the sheets, maybe something will come to me in my dreams
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:34am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9924 of 11129) Loco anyone? Mornin' TV, and everyone. Has anyone tried to find out if #7 is an actual exerpt of a poem?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:36am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9927 of 11129) Loco anyone? Almost sounds like Ogden Nash, or The dude who wrote Jabberwocky...
rubyslippers - (PFID:2fce469d) - 08:05am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9951 of 11129) carpenter's beau carpenter's beau is Elizabeth Taylor
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 09:10am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9971 of 11134) I think this clue is giving us two different people but with first or last name in common.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 01:01pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10148 of 11146) It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others ok heres my thoughts Away from the man, what is the Mississippi called? Old Man River  she ran and ran they say she was quite a talker, like a babbling brook?
Clue Master - (PFID:13d2ed) - 01:30pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10169 of 11146) The hunt is on!!! The place where the sun ain't shining is a critical part of this hunt I'm thinking either where it's actually hidden or the sign post regarding Carver's cave. Hi G, TMK, Mappy, Mom, others Joe 69!
MadScout - (PFID:2fce450f) - 02:02pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10181 of 11146) Re: it being in BC/Maplewood Maybe the "crueler crew" whose "barbs have stung" the hunt organizers is the Maplewood City Council or whoever the party poopers are over there.
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 03:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10237 of 11149) What about this idea? Ok this is one theory: What do people think about this: Raspberry Island Jamie "Carpenter" made the big glass bandshell there--and the bandshell reflects the sun--the glass it's made of does not absorb the sun--hense clue 6. All of his architecture was termed "Walker." He is still living. And Harriet Bishop was a teacher and a talker. So maybe something like Harriet ran and ran (meaning park since Carpenter is a man still living) from Raspberry Island or something. Does that make any sense?? Otherwise how about that park near Capitol called Cass Gilbert or anywhere around there?! Do you think it's there?? We have someone there right now and people seem to be all there. Michelle
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 04:01pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10240 of 11149) "I have googled, dictionaried, and anagramed myself to death." - Mandy A wonderful gift from the Schubert Club will be completed this year. The Schubert Club Bandshell, designed by Jamie Carpenter, is a graceful, curving translucent structure of glass and stainless steel. Soon, on Raspberry Island, citizens will enjoy this wonderful new amenity.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 04:50pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10280 of 11153) Loco anyone? My favorite noodle was getting BC out of EEE, as in the Marine Battle Hymn, but could it be skewed to mean "marina"?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 06:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10461 of 11156) Raspberry Island is actually reached via the east entrance to Harriet Island. As you go around and into Harriet, **there's a one lane bridge that will take you to island.
**Should check this area!!-ATH
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 06:41pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10476 of 11159) Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost. A river runs and runs and has a big mouth (quite the talker?)
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 06:52pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10493 of 11159) All I Wanted Was a Banana Malt Man.... coldest star would make howell street a good clue > then newell cums into play> howell is one of the stars finders
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 06:57pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10507 of 11159) Newell has the North Star thing working for them. They used king boreas' direction last time it was there. That is also north. Dunno about Cap view.
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 06:57pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10508 of 11159) It's close .... I can smell it dont think so reg but mayby its on a sign
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:21pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10559 of 11168) Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost. She ran and ran. Ran like a river? Ran for office? Ran to get away? Ran for sport? Ran like a computer program? Ran with a crowd? Ran like mascara? Ran a country?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:25pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10571 of 11168) Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost. Found a rather interesting definition for "man": name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #3307)
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:34pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10589 of 11168) Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost. It's not HER man she got rid of, but THE man. Hmmmmmmm
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 08:15pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10677 of 11177) at Harriet, there is a LEVEE rd. that has 3 E's
GummyResin - (PFID:2fce45cb) - 08:27pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10705 of 11177) Hi all, Sorry for lurking, but I didn't have much to add until now. I backtracked the website the 'sheran' poem came from - it is 'http://www.geocities.com/butterfliesbreeze/intro.htm' so it seems legit. There's also another 'she ran' poem there too. Also, Terry - if they are referring to HI, I think the 'doors will always be open' could refer to the gateway in the dike, as those 'doors' are only closed if there was a flood. Or maybe not.
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10714 of 11188) If you have the hunter's guide handy. Fold out Page 19, and observe the small box to the left. Mentions of the Stonebridge entrance, gift of E.E. Englebert ! Clue 3: "Wide as Triple E, Our Door will always be Open to all who enter." Triple E gave the gift of an arched bridge that is always open
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:32pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10716 of 11188) There is nothing in the rules about not going to Como. It was found there in 2001, and this bridge is right by the 2001 location, which would answer Clue #1 of the writers sticking an insult to the cooler crew
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:40pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10726 of 11190) I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the same 2001 location right by the trolley and ball fields
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 08:47pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10742 of 11190) hey, in 1910 there was a Carpenter park at Summit and Ramsey...maybe they put it where there used to be a park....hahaha
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:04pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10778 of 11190) Actually, right along Lexington Pkwy going into the Como area is one of those signs. And I haven't toddled anywhere....I iz here
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 09:09pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10789 of 11192) eskwire, someone mentioned that Taste of Minn was moving this summer. Decision was made in 2002 but the event wont actually move until this summer 2003...i think at Harriet
jsy059 - (PFID:2fce4607) - 09:12pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10800 of 11192) Eskwire I read last night that there is some disagreement whether there have been 2 or 3 high bridges. The first one was "apparently" destroyed by straight-line winds....but there is no real evidence of its existence.
Posts on Clue 8 Ideas
new daddy -not as new as I used to be - (PFID:2fce422e) - 09:30pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10859 of 11195) lure - the bait shop at at the end of harriett start of lilydale
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10862 of 11195) My Life Is A Sitcom Well, this clue 8 refers to Gab clue 7 is about talking. SO Harriet is not out yet?
RushHarley - (PFID:13d46f) - 09:48pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10898 of 11195) I'm the game, and I am that damn good gab aloud A loud bag, bagpipers, or maybe a Whoopee Cushion (hey those go where the sun don't shine) :)
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:49pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10900 of 11195) The hunting and lure clues could be referencing the animals nearby in the zoo
greyhoundgirl - (PFID:2fce44f0) - 09:53pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10911 of 11195) Lure me precious to your soul.........MAYBE Sole of shoe.......the shoe thing again?
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 09:53pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10913 of 11195) If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ." -Henry V "Precious" could be a reference to a ring, as in the "Lord of the Rings"
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 09:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10923 of 11195) It's close .... I can smell it Maybe it's wrapped up inside a "fillet of sole"... or up a fish's butt! Does the frog have any friends we can "peek" "where the sun ain't shining"? These clues are giving me a headache! must stop banging my head on the desk...
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 10:03pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10936 of 11195) Clue 8 ideas How about: good time==clock--which park has a clock?? stroll--rearranged is trolls--any park have those? hunting--anyplace to go hunting, hunting shop, ?? lure me--fishing anyone?? Any more ideas?
Tiny Thumbs - (PFID:2fce3e49) - 10:04pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10937 of 11195) This is from the st. paul parks page. "The City of Saint Paul, Division of Parks and Recreation has GREAT places to visit and FUN activities for the whole family to enjoy! Included among its facilities are over 160 parks and open spaces, 41 recreation centers, three 18 hole golf courses, 24 bicycle and pedestrian paths, one indoor pool and two outdoor pools, a public beach and a sports dome." I think this year, we're dealing with an open space adjacent to a park or a bike/pedestrian path perhaps?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:06pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10943 of 11195) so close in como! neared the finish with a walker Does this mean the park ends with a walking trail?
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:06pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10944 of 11195) "It's a small world after all." Head on out, and taking a stroll could mean having to do w/ babies. Nearby you should "peek" is a good baby reference too. Stick it where the sun ain't shining could mean it is in a diaper again this year. Just a noodling...
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 10:12pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10960 of 11195) Usual- you can see the tip of the capitol near the bait shop at the west end of Harriet. Also Covington Bed and Breakfast is open all year (on a boat) where you can stay warm away from the storm,even in the dead of winter.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:13pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10965 of 11195) Would you be pissed if a 16 yr. old found it??... good... Hi All! I was thinking this clue was just another reference to a shoe: soul = sole of a shoe gab is another word for converse... could be in a "Converse" brand shoe (?)
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 10:15pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10970 of 11195) idea Ok this is one theory: What do people think about this: Raspberry Island Jamie "Carpenter" made the big glass bandshell there--and the bandshell reflects the sun--the glass it's made of does not absorb the sun--hense clue 6. All of his architecture was termed "Walker." He is still living. And Harriet Bishop was a teacher and a talker. So maybe something like Harriet ran and ran (meaning park since Carpenter is a man still living) from Raspberry Island or something. Does that make any sense?? Otherwise how about that park near Capitol called Cass Gilbert or anywhere around there?! Do you think it's there?? We have someone there right now and people seem to be all there.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:19pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10980 of 11195) "It's a small world after all." my1destiny - if you are thinking Raspberry Island , and if there is any military theme in these clues anywhere as legion might show, the Island used to be called Navy Island. It is rather shady under the Wabasha Bridge - where the sun don't shine.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:43pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11026 of 11197) If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!! Fall's a good time to take a stroll...
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11041 of 11197) If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!! Ya know... *Maybe* the only thing in this clue is "sole-lure."
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 11:10pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11074 of 11201) ideas kellogg--it's a short stroll to the pp where people gab about the clues...???
MOM* - (PFID:13d410) - 11:17pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11093 of 11201) emmy & hannah's and natalies.... OH! Battle Creek! The school there - the environmental magnet school - it has solar panels. But I don't think you could see the Capitol dome from anywhere "nearby". Something to think about. Goodnight X 2
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:34pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11126 of 11203) If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!! Are there "sole-lure" panels at Harritt island?
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 11:35pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11128 of 11203) yes on or near the ge capitol trailer sole-lure panels
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 11:55pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11142 of 11203) AFTER-ACTION REPORT -HARRIET No time to slog through all previous posts, just wanted to recap my impressions... First off, I truly believe HI is the one, the prior post on why Harriet works is almost dead-on (there are other matches not mentioned. Bring your rake! The bait shop is called "River Road Bait Shop" address is 150 W. WATER Street. The street sign says 160 W. Water St. It has a U.S. flag flying on top and is next to 2 or 3 of the gangster caves (matched those "Saint Mudd" literary references, among others such as "warm, away from the storm,even in dead of winter." Now, dead of winter is a double clue and the med is likely hidden in leaves/brush->the dead of winter. Not only that, but it is likely to be on the north side of a tree (where the sun don't shine). There was about 20 or so folks when I left (1:30am) and the place WILL be crawling tomorrow. You CAN see the cap dome from the walking path nearby (through the skyline). WATER St matches numerous water references as well as "old man river" references. Walking/running path references match as well. I searched as fast and furious as I could, as I had noticed the spot two days ago and its neat potential for literary references. I also like the blinking neon sign,adds a nich touch. Now the path extends southward about 100 yards or so to the high bridge (matching other bridge leap references). This area got me so excited it matches almost every clue! Ask me! There is just too much leaf clutter to look thoroughly in the dark..and I have other commitments so this is why I am telling you. The med will be found near this spot or very close nearby. Also about 15 other folks scouring the areas under the high bridge where there is a small parking lot leading to the river (kinda scary area though). I scouted this in detail a few days back when Harriet first came up and it looks like the remnants of a bum camp so not sure if PP would really lead people down there (but it more closely matches the sun not shining reference and the other numerical references to the high bridge (169?) However, the area near the bait shop which is the entrance to the walk/run trail to Lilydale. GO FOR IT because I can't!
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 12:09am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11147 of 11203) Also just noticed second reference to $ or sweethearts - "dear" and "precious" meaning expensive OR it's IN A BOX OF SWEETHEARTS CANDY!!
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 12:13am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11149 of 11203) Oh, and right next to the bait shop is beFORT co. (remember first letters of clues.... (A)(T)(F)(T) = at Ft. = at fort?
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 12:43am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11167 of 11203) triple E fits in down there 2 with levee street. coldest star could be starkey street and door open key any thoughts? also capitol city welding just on the other side of the levee at harriett with a dome on there sign and ge capitol right next door???
Teddykgb3 - (PFID:2fce4423) - 02:53am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11207 of 11207)
<----John Malkovich I'm in Vegas 1 more year! ANYONE STILL HERE??? I just got here, slogged a little but didn't see anything to interesting to my eyes. To me this is an obvious reference to a "midnight stroll" is there any other kind of stroll? and where better to do so then the PP around midnight??? I think it's within a few city blocks of the PP, hate to say it because of the ice sculpters, but someone needs to put a little time into Ramsey Park down there...I think everything fits all too well!!
My research--- The bait shop is built into the caves at HI Google--“precious to your soul”- "Your gift," Gabriel said, "must be something of the essence of yourself, something precious to your soul." (The Angel Gabriel watching over Jesus-3 men bringing Jesus gifts) Lots of references to Jesus/God/Bible Google—Carpenter- St. Paul, MN Woman/Female/Beau http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4585482.htmMarion Carpenter...- Carpenter was one of the first female members of the White House News Photographers' Association (the group's Web site misspells her name Maria Carpenter) and was the only woman among a handful of "official" photographers who traveled with the president and covered him daily. She was about 24 when she arrived in Washington. Over the next five or six years she became a favorite of President Harry S. Truman and made her mark in Washington as a photographer of talent and temperament...... Carpenter liked to show old magazines to Allstopp and would often try to explain to her why certain photographs were composed the way they were...... Carpenter was divorced, after an early marriage to a Navy officer who abused her. In Washington, she fell in love with a prominent Capitol journalist. When the affair ended, a heartbroken Carpenter married for a second time. Her new husband, a radio announcer, took her to Denver, where she gave birth to a son in February 1950. By late 1951, the marriage was over and so was her career. She was 31...... Carpenter returned to St. Paul to take care of her aging mother in the family home at 1032 Conway St. on the East Side. A single mother with a small child and an ailing parent, she needed two jobs: running a wedding photo business and, falling back on her medical training, working as a private nurse. She stayed in the house until five years ago, when it was condemned by the city and torn down...... Carpenter's life after coming home to St. Paul is sketchy. She raced homing pigeons and she showed German shepherds ( I can see why people are still at IM)
Marning, Jaz. Gods, but ittiz a glorious day out there! Not a cloud in the sky SUN SHINING... Makes ya feel good to be alive, noodlin' and HUNTING!!! :D
It all blew out my mouth - and my nose! - and I choked... And ittiz all over my screen!!! Can't see my screen... The keys are stuck on my keyboard... And I can't quit coughing!!!
grni, I was out a bit yesterday. Was able to make it to BC... And, since I was the only one there I turned around and came home. Images o'Phalen when The Puck was Newell flashed through my mind. I'm a slow learner, but I do learn eventually!!!
mornin all! went to HI last night, parked my van, walked out into the park.......turned the hell around and got back in my van! colder than a witches tit out there last night!
Night, THX.
This area is before Water St. meets Plato or after?
So this is west of the parking lot and close to the high bridge? I think Yahoo maps has it pinpointed wrong. I remember being in that area after the Memorial Day fireworks, so I kind of think I know the area you mean. I suppose that area could fit moreso than the main part of the park.
Well if it is on Harriet Island, I say we rent a tent for the rehash as it's quite windy down there and there isn't really a place we can go and all keep warm.
A friend and I covered some of Cherokee today and a little bit of Harriet. This hunt is very frustrating. Just what I wanted!
It is extremely cold & windy down there!
Was also very cold and windy in Cherokee, near the Smith Ave bridge, this afternoon.
So when you say Harriet Island, you are actually talking about the "wild" part way to the west. And there are caves over there and a bait shop with a flag on it? If that's the case, then I could maybe see that being the spot. I may have to go look at it tomorrow in the daylight when one can see the Capitol.
Hello all insomniacs! (and To You Artemis) Burrr it's cooolld out there. Still, a great clue to noodle. I'm frozen, Hannah said she could hunt all night, but she dosen't have any exposed skin, now does she?
...must sleep...getting drowsy...in my happy place...
the coldest temps come around at sunrise. See you all after that!!!!
If it is there, that seems a bit sad. That means all that's left now is to go out on to a frigid, windy, desolate part of the park and sift through grass and leaves until someone gets lucky and finds the right spot.
MCL&SCD'S ...Oh, I do not have a registered button. any volunteers?
Loco anyone?
Don't mind if I do!
I'm waiting for a legitimate JOE. It's good luck.
A legitimate joe? Good luck to you!
Yes, I like the puzzle of it. I don't care much for going out in the cold and digging through snow or raking through leaves. I just want to solve the puzzle. If that's the solution to the puzzle, the rest is kind of anti-climatical. The only reason I actually go out and physically look for the thing is to hopefully win the money, but that hope only carries me so far.
Frosti- where you been? In the desolate wasteland of grass?
Allison- do you use math to figure uout clues?
damn u, gets in the way all the time.
...so close, but no Joe. G'nite all!!!! See you in the right park in a few hours.
Frosti- where you been? In the desolate wasteland of grass?
My wife decided we should have a social life this weekend! :)
Stocking the fridge with sodas (faygo for the klownz);coffee, hot chocolate and chai tea for the chilly hunters coming back in. And a muffin basket. Night all!
Guess I'm off to bed as well.
C-ya Frosti and AW
Joe
SCD's & MCL all.
IM, HI and a few select streets downtown. I needs to get me one of those mirror sticks. I think they may come in pretty handy this year.
How cool would it be if the PP released a clue that took us a couple of blocks away. Everyone would do the mad dash from the PP over to, lets say Robert St. All in front of the cameras. CRAZY I tells ya!
Thanks MQ - Zzzzzzzz
By the way, if it is found tomorrow, how about a Pity Party at Fabulous Fern's in the bar area in the evening? You can come after the Superbowl if you want to watch it, or earlier if you don't. Or you can probably watch it there. That's assuming it's found sometime in the daylight hours.
And also, for those that didn't feel like you got your share of hunting in this year, remember, my Mock Hunt will be coming up at the beginning of March, probably starting on Sunday, March 9th. It's modeled after this hunt, only I write the clues for it. Last year we might have had as many as 100 people participating and we had a prize of $500. It was hidden in Phalen and went 11 clues. The year before was Linwood and I think that went 12 clues. So if you're interested in participating in that, either keep an eye out on these message boards or join my Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theallisonwonderland/and I'll send out announcements about it.
Also, I'm planning a murder mystery weekend up in Two Harbors on the weekend of February 28th-March 2nd. The mystery will actually be based on a treasure hunt, only this one you get to solve from within the cozy comfort of a Superior Shores luxury resort lake house. We have space for 10 people to go as it's a 3 bedroom house with a loft and a sofa sleeper in the living room. The weekend includes accomodations, food for the weekend, a five person hot tub, and the mystery which will span from Friday night to Saturday night. The total cost is $80 per person. I just thought I'd mention it now while I have everyone's attention still. :-)
K T - Hello all insomniacs! (and To You Artemis) Burrr it's cooolld out there. Still, a great clue to noodle. I'm frozen, Hannah said she could hunt all night, but she dosen't have any exposed skin, now does she?
Hiya KT! Missed ya sloggin :( Hope we see you and Hannah out in the park! I'm gonna get some sleep so I can get some daylight searching in ;-)
I like 3 diff. areas at Harriet-The east side, the west side, and the middle :-) Did Marley tell you he found the 3 E's?
I'm gonna try and get some sleep now so I can get some daylight searching in! See y'all in the afternoon :-)
Hi all.
Spent several hours down by the bait shop tonight, found out alot of ideas for the area that match, but as with all of the parks I've been in so far this year, I have found an equal amount of things that make no sense at all. Keep in mind that the reason there were so many people in the west end, beyond Harriet Island tonight was because it is a)A Weekend -- notice how many joined the search that weren't doing it at all during the week. b) The last clue had lure in it and that was the only bait shop anyone could think of obviously. Many things match down there, and I am not saying that it's not down there, but I still think it's a wide open game...and that makes me smile. Take care all and good night.
There is a mounds park and an Indian Mounds park. I think they're talking about Indian Mounds, and after a little google searchI can see why
good luck and happy hunting today!
you're welcome jsy :-)
I was pretty sure about Harriet, now I can also see the merits of Indian Mounds...still haven't found anything for clue 8 tho...so I'm gonna hit the sheets, maybe something will come to me in my dreams
Let's get that bad boy!
i'm up and ready to find the medallion - see everyone there!
morning everyone. I'm off to dig at harriet/lillydale
GOOD Marning, 'Heads! Rise and shine!!! Take your soles that are lured and get Hunting!
Good luck - One and All!!!
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:34am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9924 of 11129)
Loco anyone?
Mornin' TV, and everyone. Has anyone tried to find out if #7 is an actual exerpt of a poem?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:36am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9927 of 11129)
Loco anyone?
Almost sounds like Ogden Nash, or The dude who wrote Jabberwocky...
rubyslippers - (PFID:2fce469d) - 08:05am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9951 of 11129)
carpenter's beau
carpenter's beau is Elizabeth Taylor
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 09:10am Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 9971 of 11134)
I think this clue is giving us two different people but with first or last name in common.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 01:01pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10148 of 11146)
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
ok
heres my thoughts
Away from the man,
what is the Mississippi called? Old Man River
 she ran and ran they say she was quite a talker,
like a babbling brook?
Clue Master - (PFID:13d2ed) - 01:30pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10169 of 11146)
The hunt is on!!!
The place where the sun ain't shining is a critical part of this hunt
I'm thinking either where it's actually hidden or the sign post regarding Carver's cave.
Hi
G,
TMK, Mappy, Mom, others
Joe 69!
MadScout - (PFID:2fce450f) - 02:02pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10181 of 11146)
Re: it being in BC/Maplewood
Maybe the "crueler crew" whose "barbs have stung" the hunt organizers is the Maplewood City Council or whoever the party poopers are over there.
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 03:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10237 of 11149)
What about this idea?
Ok this is one theory:
What do people think about this: Raspberry Island
Jamie "Carpenter" made the big glass bandshell there--and the bandshell reflects the sun--the glass it's made of does not absorb the sun--hense clue 6. All of his architecture was termed "Walker." He is still living. And Harriet Bishop was a teacher and a talker. So maybe something like Harriet ran and ran (meaning park since Carpenter is a man still living) from Raspberry Island or something. Does that make any sense??
Otherwise how about that park near Capitol called Cass Gilbert or anywhere around there?! Do you think it's there?? We have someone there right now and people seem to be all there.
Michelle
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 04:01pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10240 of 11149)
"I have googled, dictionaried, and anagramed myself to death." - Mandy
A wonderful gift from the Schubert Club will be completed this year. The Schubert Club Bandshell, designed by Jamie Carpenter, is a graceful, curving translucent structure of glass and stainless steel. Soon, on Raspberry Island, citizens will enjoy this wonderful new amenity.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 04:50pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10280 of 11153)
Loco anyone?
My favorite noodle was getting BC out of EEE, as in the Marine Battle Hymn, but could it be skewed to mean "marina"?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 06:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10461 of 11156)
Raspberry Island is actually reached via the east entrance to Harriet Island. As you go around and into Harriet, **there's a one lane bridge that will take you to island.
**Should check this area!!-ATH
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 06:41pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10476 of 11159)
Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost.
A river runs and runs and has a big mouth (quite the talker?)
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 06:52pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10493 of 11159)
All I Wanted Was a Banana Malt Man....
coldest star would make howell street a good clue > then newell cums into play> howell is one of the stars finders
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 06:57pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10507 of 11159)
Newell has the North Star thing working for them. They used king boreas' direction last time it was there. That is also north. Dunno about Cap view.
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 06:57pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10508 of 11159)
It's close .... I can smell it
dont think so reg but mayby its on a sign
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:21pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10559 of 11168)
Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost.
She ran and ran. Ran like a river? Ran for office? Ran to get away? Ran for sport? Ran like a computer program? Ran with a crowd? Ran like mascara? Ran a country?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:25pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10571 of 11168)
Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost.
Found a rather interesting definition for "man":
name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #3307)
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:34pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10589 of 11168)
Dreams are the roadmap to life. Without them, we are lost.
It's not HER man she got rid of, but THE man. Hmmmmmmm
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 08:15pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10677 of 11177)
at Harriet, there is a LEVEE rd. that has 3 E's
GummyResin - (PFID:2fce45cb) - 08:27pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10705 of 11177)
Hi all,
Sorry for lurking, but I didn't have much to add until now. I backtracked the website the 'sheran' poem came from - it is 'http://www.geocities.com/butterfliesbreeze/intro.htm' so it seems legit. There's also another 'she ran' poem there too.
Also, Terry - if they are referring to HI, I think the 'doors will always be open' could refer to the gateway in the dike, as those 'doors' are only closed if there was a flood. Or maybe not.
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10714 of 11188)
If you have the hunter's guide handy. Fold out Page 19, and observe the small box to the left. Mentions of the Stonebridge entrance, gift of E.E. Englebert ! Clue 3: "Wide as Triple E, Our Door will always be Open to all who enter." Triple E gave the gift of an arched bridge that is always open
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:32pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10716 of 11188)
There is nothing in the rules about not going to Como. It was found there in 2001, and this bridge is right by the 2001 location, which would answer Clue #1 of the writers sticking an insult to the cooler crew
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 08:40pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10726 of 11190)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the same 2001 location right by the trolley and ball fields
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 08:47pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10742 of 11190)
hey, in 1910 there was a Carpenter park at Summit and Ramsey...maybe they put it where there used to be a park....hahaha
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:04pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10778 of 11190)
Actually, right along Lexington Pkwy going into the Como area is one of those signs.
And I haven't toddled anywhere....I iz here
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 09:09pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10789 of 11192)
eskwire, someone mentioned that Taste of Minn was moving this summer. Decision was made in 2002 but the event wont actually move until this summer 2003...i think at Harriet
jsy059 - (PFID:2fce4607) - 09:12pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10800 of 11192)
Eskwire
I read last night that there is some disagreement whether there have been 2 or 3 high bridges. The first one was "apparently" destroyed by straight-line winds....but there is no real evidence of its existence.
Posts on Clue 8 Ideas
new daddy -not as new as I used to be - (PFID:2fce422e) - 09:30pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10859 of 11195)
lure - the bait shop at at the end of harriett start of lilydale
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:31pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10862 of 11195)
My Life Is A Sitcom
Well, this clue 8 refers to Gab
clue 7 is about talking.
SO Harriet is not out yet?
RushHarley - (PFID:13d46f) - 09:48pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10898 of 11195)
I'm the game, and I am that damn good
gab aloud
A loud bag,
bagpipers, or maybe a Whoopee Cushion (hey those go where the sun don't shine)
:)
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:49pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10900 of 11195)
The hunting and lure clues could be referencing the animals nearby in the zoo
greyhoundgirl - (PFID:2fce44f0) - 09:53pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10911 of 11195)
Lure me precious to your soul.........MAYBE Sole of shoe.......the shoe thing again?
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 09:53pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10913 of 11195)
If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ." -Henry V
"Precious" could be a reference to a ring, as in the "Lord of the Rings"
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 09:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10923 of 11195)
It's close .... I can smell it
Maybe it's wrapped up inside a "fillet of sole"... or up a fish's butt! Does the frog have any friends we can "peek" "where the sun ain't shining"?
These clues are giving me a headache! must stop banging my head on the desk...
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 10:03pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10936 of 11195)
Clue 8 ideas
How about:
good time==clock--which park has a clock??
stroll--rearranged is trolls--any park have those?
hunting--anyplace to go hunting, hunting shop, ??
lure me--fishing anyone??
Any more ideas?
Tiny Thumbs - (PFID:2fce3e49) - 10:04pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10937 of 11195)
This is from the st. paul parks page.
"The City of Saint Paul, Division of Parks and Recreation has GREAT places to visit and FUN activities for the whole family to enjoy! Included among its facilities are over 160 parks and open spaces, 41 recreation centers, three 18 hole golf courses, 24 bicycle and pedestrian paths, one indoor pool and two outdoor pools, a public beach and a sports dome."
I think this year, we're dealing with an open space adjacent to a park or a bike/pedestrian path perhaps?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:06pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10943 of 11195)
so close in como!
neared the finish
with a walker
Does this mean the park ends with a walking trail?
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:06pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10944 of 11195)
"It's a small world after all."
Head on out, and taking a stroll could mean having to do w/ babies. Nearby you should "peek" is a good baby reference too. Stick it where the sun ain't shining could mean it is in a diaper again this year. Just a noodling...
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 10:12pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10960 of 11195)
Usual- you can see the tip of the capitol near the bait shop at the west end of Harriet. Also Covington Bed and Breakfast is open all year (on a boat) where you can stay warm away from the storm,even in the dead of winter.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:13pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10965 of 11195)
Would you be pissed if a 16 yr. old found it??... good...
Hi All! I was thinking this clue was just another reference to a shoe:
soul = sole of a shoe
gab is another word for converse... could be in a "Converse" brand shoe (?)
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 10:15pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10970 of 11195)
idea
Ok this is one theory:
What do people think about this: Raspberry Island
Jamie "Carpenter" made the big glass bandshell there--and the bandshell reflects the sun--the glass it's made of does not absorb the sun--hense clue 6. All of his architecture was termed "Walker." He is still living. And Harriet Bishop was a teacher and a talker. So maybe something like Harriet ran and ran (meaning park since Carpenter is a man still living) from Raspberry Island or something. Does that make any sense??
Otherwise how about that park near Capitol called Cass Gilbert or anywhere around there?! Do you think it's there?? We have someone there right now and people seem to be all there.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:19pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 10980 of 11195)
"It's a small world after all."
my1destiny - if you are thinking Raspberry Island , and if there is any military theme in these clues anywhere as legion might show, the Island used to be called Navy Island. It is rather shady under the Wabasha Bridge - where the sun don't shine.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:43pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11026 of 11197)
If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!!
Fall's a good time to take a stroll...
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:56pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11041 of 11197)
If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!!
Ya know... *Maybe* the only thing in this clue is "sole-lure."
my1destiny - (PFID:2fce3e4d) - 11:10pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11074 of 11201)
ideas
kellogg--it's a short stroll to the pp where people gab about the clues...???
OH! Battle Creek! The school there - the environmental magnet school - it has solar panels. But I don't think you could see the Capitol dome from anywhere "nearby".
Something to think about.
Goodnight X 2
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:34pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11126 of 11203)
If the Jamaicans can have a successful bobsled team, I can ace a clue or two - even FIND The Med!!!
Are there "sole-lure" panels at Harritt island?
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 11:35pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11128 of 11203)
yes on or near the ge capitol trailer sole-lure panels
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 11:55pm Jan 25, 2003 PST (# 11142 of 11203)
AFTER-ACTION REPORT -HARRIET
No time to slog through all previous posts, just wanted to recap my impressions...
First off, I truly believe HI is the one, the prior post on why Harriet works is almost dead-on (there are other matches not mentioned. Bring your rake! The bait shop is called "River Road Bait Shop" address is 150 W. WATER Street. The street sign says 160 W. Water St. It has a U.S. flag flying on top and is next to 2 or 3 of the gangster caves (matched those "Saint Mudd" literary references, among others such as "warm, away from the storm,even in dead of winter." Now, dead of winter is a double clue and the med is likely hidden in leaves/brush->the dead of winter. Not only that, but it is likely to be on the north side of a tree (where the sun don't shine). There was about 20 or so folks when I left (1:30am) and the place WILL be crawling tomorrow. You CAN see the cap dome from the walking path nearby (through the skyline). WATER St matches numerous water references as well as "old man river" references. Walking/running path references match as well. I searched as fast and furious as I could, as I had noticed the spot two days ago and its neat potential for literary references. I also like the blinking neon sign,adds a nich touch. Now the path extends southward about 100 yards or so to the high bridge (matching other bridge leap references). This area got me so excited it matches almost every clue! Ask me! There is just too much leaf clutter to look thoroughly in the dark..and I have other commitments so this is why I am telling you. The med will be found near this spot or very close nearby. Also about 15 other folks scouring the areas under the high bridge where there is a small parking lot leading to the river (kinda scary area though). I scouted this in detail a few days back when Harriet first came up and it looks like the remnants of a bum camp so not sure if PP would really lead people down there (but it more closely matches the sun not shining reference and the other numerical references to the high bridge (169?) However, the area near the bait shop which is the entrance to the walk/run trail to Lilydale. GO FOR IT because I can't!
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 12:09am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11147 of 11203)
Also just noticed second reference to $ or sweethearts - "dear" and "precious" meaning expensive OR it's IN A BOX OF SWEETHEARTS CANDY!!
Ve Ri Tas - (PFID:2fce4527) - 12:13am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11149 of 11203)
Oh, and right next to the bait shop is beFORT co. (remember first letters of clues.... (A)(T)(F)(T) = at Ft. = at fort?
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 12:43am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11167 of 11203)
triple E fits in down there 2 with levee street. coldest star could be starkey street and door open key any thoughts? also capitol city welding just on the other side of the levee at harriett with a dome on there sign and ge capitol right next door???
Teddykgb3 - (PFID:2fce4423) - 02:53am Jan 26, 2003 PST (# 11207 of 11207)
<----John Malkovich I'm in Vegas 1 more year!
ANYONE STILL HERE???
I just got here, slogged a little but didn't see anything to interesting to my eyes. To me this is an obvious reference to a "midnight stroll" is there any other kind of stroll? and where better to do so then the PP around midnight??? I think it's within a few city blocks of the PP, hate to say it because of the ice sculpters, but someone needs to put a little time into Ramsey Park down there...I think everything fits all too well!!
My research--- The bait shop is built into the caves at HI
Google--“precious to your soul”-
"Your gift," Gabriel said, "must be something of the essence
of yourself, something precious to your soul." (The Angel Gabriel watching over Jesus-3 men bringing Jesus gifts)
Lots of references to Jesus/God/Bible
Google—Carpenter- St. Paul, MN Woman/Female/Beau
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4585482.htmMarion Carpenter...- Carpenter was one of the first female members of the White House News Photographers' Association (the group's Web site misspells her name Maria Carpenter) and was the only woman among a handful of "official" photographers who traveled with the president and covered him daily. She was about 24 when she arrived in Washington. Over the next five or six years she became a favorite of President Harry S. Truman and made her mark in Washington as a photographer of talent and temperament...... Carpenter liked to show old magazines to Allstopp and would often try to explain to her why certain photographs were composed the way they were...... Carpenter was divorced, after an early marriage to a Navy officer who abused her. In Washington, she fell in love with a prominent Capitol journalist. When the affair ended, a heartbroken Carpenter married for a second time. Her new husband, a radio announcer, took her to Denver, where she gave birth to a son in February 1950. By late 1951, the marriage was over and so was her career. She was 31...... Carpenter returned to St. Paul to take care of her aging mother in the family home at 1032 Conway St. on the East Side. A single mother with a small child and an ailing parent, she needed two jobs: running a wedding photo business and, falling back on her medical training, working as a private nurse. She stayed in the house until five years ago, when it was condemned by the city and torn down...... Carpenter's life after coming home to St. Paul is sketchy. She raced homing pigeons and she showed German shepherds
( I can see why people are still at IM)
2-3 inches by monday morning!
medallionating.
NO !
The Jello, formly known as My Brain, says there's a Bates Street by IM...
Marning, Ian. Enjoying the fresh ground?
Marning, Jaz. Gods, but ittiz a glorious day out there! Not a cloud in the sky SUN SHINING... Makes ya feel good to be alive, noodlin' and HUNTING!!! :D
Well... Tell ya what Jaz, I'm usually way, way wrong!
Dear Ian,
Please DO NOT post such items as you recently did
1) When I'm slogging previously posted info...
2) When I'm not fully awake yet
3) Without warning
4) And I've a MOUTH full o'coffeee!!!!
It all blew out my mouth - and my nose! - and I choked... And ittiz all over my screen!!! Can't see my screen... The keys are stuck on my keyboard... And I can't quit coughing!!!
IAN, YOU'RE A SCREAM!!!!
BRB... Gotta clean me and the 'putter up...
Jaz, allow me to ammend my statement:
"I'm *always* wrong."
grni, I was out a bit yesterday. Was able to make it to BC... And, since I was the only one there I turned around and came home. Images o'Phalen when The Puck was Newell flashed through my mind. I'm a slow learner, but I do learn eventually!!!
Good luck, ben!!!
mornin all! went to HI last night, parked my van, walked out into the park.......turned the hell around and got back in my van! colder than a witches tit out there last night!
Marnin', LL!
Mornin green! think I must invest in some warmer clothes!