Maybe they could just say no honestly, that's the same thing No. That is their choice. They can have sex and risk pregnacy or they can not.
It's you who are failing to make distinctions...between fetus and child, between born and unborn...etc... You use the words to hide behind. You focus on the birth to maintain your selfish desires.
They can have sex and risk pregnacy or they can not
that doesn't change the fact that you told them to "just say no", which is all I said. It's not like your saying it has any physical force to it...but of course, you want to add the force of law to it.
There is no need to make them unless you are describing the various stages of development. They were never intended to be used by proabortionist to hide behind their selfish desires. The unborn child is human and it is a being to destroy it on a whim is wrong.
No maybe you don't but people like you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion
nonsense.
people like me don't think it's our choice to make.
and people like me are as responsible as anyone.
I've never been involved with an unwanted pregnancy other than my own wife's miscarriage...and I had no say in that, nor did I feel I had a right to one.
No maybe you don't but people like you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion nonsense.
No it is perfect sense!
and people like me are as responsible as anyone. based on what you have written I would have to disagree.
people like you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion this is no different that saying that people like you go around planning to kill doctors.
it's bullshit. I have no plan to kill doctors. You on the other promote legal abortions so much that it occurs to me that there must be a reason. One of those reasons very well could be that you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion. You just don't want the responsibility. You just don't want to shell out any money. That is what I call selfish. Kill the child to save you from any inconvenience.
based on what you have written I would have to disagree.
and you would be wrong.
I have no plan to kill doctors
and I have no plans to tell anyone to get an abortion, but if you can go from don't to people like you to you, then so can I.
You on the other promote legal abortions so much that it occurs to me that there must be a reason. One of those reasons very well could be that you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion. You just don't want the responsibility. You just don't want to shell out any money. That is what I call selfish. Kill the child to save you from any inconvenience.
No, there never really is any time for such words.
yes there are, and your smearing me someone who "go[es] around getting whatever you [I] can and if she gets pregnant your [my] first word is abortion" is a perfect example of a time when it's an appropriate response.
yes there are, and your smearing me someone who "go[es] around getting whatever you [I] can and if she gets pregnant your [my] first word is abortion" is a perfect example of a time when it's an appropriate response. No. The word wasn't apparopriate. I believe my statement is true in many many cases.
did she make her decision on a whim? It appears to me yes. It was also made out of selfishness and concern for her future entirely.
That really has got to be one of the most ignorant statements I have read. Was it supposed to be a question? If it was the answer is no. If abortion had been illegal she should have been prosecuted. But it wasn't illegal.
that's what people like you do with murderers, you kill them.
I didn't say I was going to kill anyone. It would be illegal. Second, murderers are given a trial by jury, then they must be convicted, then death must be imposed in jurisdictions where it is provided by law, then they have state and federal appeals then they may apply for clemency. it is called due process.
if also APPEARS that you think the fetuses of pregnant Iraqi women are not sacred human life. It appears that you think they are "collateral" that are expendable.
if also APPEARS that you think the fetuses of pregnant Iraqi women are not sacred human life. It appears that you think they are "collateral" that are expendable.
I hope they are not killed. You apparently have a problem with the concept of intent.
why not the woman who actually made the choice? They were there, they had it done. They participated. No one was making them.
She should be penalized but as I told you before the person that actually commits the act is, to me, more culpable.
and you try to claim that life is sacred...fucking pathetic
This just shows that you don't understand or are intentionally misrepresenting my position. I don't think life is "sacred." I believe a person can forfeit his or her right to live based on certain acts.
She should be penalized but as I told you before the person that actually commits the act is, to me, more culpable. what nonsense.
Nonsense? Not at all. In fact, it makes perfect sense.
you are saying that a mob boss is less culpable than the button man? My guess is the mob boss did some killing of his own before he became mob boss. But you probably should equate the abortion provider with the mob boss and not a woman seeking an abortion. Which one is making a monetary profit on the death?
sounds to me like you are just trying to justify not having to call women who have abortion murderers. No not at all.
they participate in it. I see the cocaine supplier more culpable than the user. Do you understand that?
Charlie Manson didn't kill any of those people you know. If you say so. I am not a fan of Charlie but will take the word of those that may be.
you KNOW that innocents will be killed and you go ahead anyway.
I know that it will likely happen. I see the danger of inaction as being greater than that of action. I believe there will be many more dead if we don't act.
My guess is the mob boss did some killing of his own before he became mob boss
so now we are judging based on GUESSES. Why am I not surprised?
Which one is making a monetary profit on the death?
so now we are judging murder based on if there was a profit motive?
I see the cocaine supplier more culpable than the user. Do you understand that?
no...drug laws are bullshit. Another example of your type wanting to imprison all who don't think like you.
I know that it will likely happen. I see the danger of inaction as being greater than that of action. I believe there will be many more dead if we don't act.
of course to you "act" means "kill", and if it's innocents, oh fucking well.
you are justifying killing based on what MAY happen now.
but if a woman justifies ending her pregnancy based on the bad that MAY result if she doesn't, she's a murderer?
Hmmm...how about this? Every person against abortion has to sign the following pledge/oath: "I have never, nor will I ever, engage in any sexual activity other than penis-vagina sex with my married partner for the sole purpose of procreation." Violation of this pledge will be punished by execution. Abortion can be made illegal (along with all of the other birth control methods that the anti-choice people believe risks fertilization but prevents implantation -- the so-called "abortifacient" drugs) as long as enough people sign the pledge to compose a majority of the registered voters in the United States. In fact, unless you feel comfortable signing that oath and abiding by it, then you are as much an enemy of the "unborn" as you suggest that I am.
A student at a junior high school in Pennsylvania was told to remove the pro-life T-shirt he was wearing because the message was the equivalent of a swastika, reports the Thomas More Law Center.
The unnamed student wore a shirt reading: "Abortion is Homicide. You will not silence my message. You will not mock my God. You will stop killing my generation. Rock for Life."
The center says the principal of Anington Junior High School told the student to either cover the shirt or turn the shirt inside out because the message was inappropriate to be displayed in school. He said the shirt and message were the equivalent of a swastika being displayed on a shirt.
Does anyone else have to suffer through anti-choice commercials on television, produced on the cheap by some local anti-abortion society? The ones in Maine feature some breedermoo with an eighties hairstyle sitting with her brood of crotchrockets, whining about how women who avail themselves of their legally protected right to an abortion often have 3 or 4 of them. Why, entire families just like hers are wiped out! In another hideous ad, we're treated to the ultrasound some old bitch nurse is giving her daughter. I've sent e-mails to the local stations telling them I won't watch anymore if they keep it up, but I doubt it will do much good in this conservative hellhole.
not born
you want to call conception "birth"
Possibly.
you said...
honestly, that's the same thing
well...THAT will tell me!
It's you who are failing to make distinctions...between fetus and child, between born and unborn...etc...
Maybe they could just say no
honestly, that's the same thing No. That is their choice. They can have sex and risk pregnacy or they can not.
It's you who are failing to make distinctions...between fetus and child, between born and unborn...etc... You use the words to hide behind. You focus on the birth to maintain your selfish desires.
that doesn't change the fact that you told them to "just say no", which is all I said. It's not like your saying it has any physical force to it...but of course, you want to add the force of law to it.
I make distinctions, you hide behind the lack of making them.
what desires would those be...I can't have an abortion.
There is no need to make them unless you are describing the various stages of development. They were never intended to be used by proabortionist to hide behind their selfish desires. The unborn child is human and it is a being to destroy it on a whim is wrong.
nonsense.
people like me don't think it's our choice to make.
and people like me are as responsible as anyone.
I've never been involved with an unwanted pregnancy other than my own wife's miscarriage...and I had no say in that, nor did I feel I had a right to one.
this is no different that saying that people like you go around planning to kill doctors.
it's bullshit.
and your first word is apparently "don't have sex"
dispite your attempt to say otherwise
No maybe you don't but people like you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion
nonsense.
No it is perfect sense!
and people like me are as responsible as anyone. based on what you have written I would have to disagree.
people like you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion
this is no different that saying that people like you go around planning to kill doctors.
it's bullshit. I have no plan to kill doctors. You on the other promote legal abortions so much that it occurs to me that there must be a reason. One of those reasons very well could be that you go around getting whatever you can and if she gets pregnant your first word is abortion. You just don't want the responsibility. You just don't want to shell out any money. That is what I call selfish. Kill the child to save you from any inconvenience.
you start by saying not me, then move on to people like me and by the end of the sentence it's just me
you should be ashamed.
and you would be wrong.
and I have no plans to tell anyone to get an abortion, but if you can go from don't to people like you to you, then so can I.
Kill the doctor.
fuck you
you should be ashamed.
I am ashamed. I am ashamed of giving you the time of day, crabs.
crabs wrote: fuck you
Come on crabs, say it again. it is so enlightening
it's the correct words for what needed to be said to you
bodine, you ever known a woman who had an abortion?
it's the correct words for what needed to be said to you
No, there never really is any time for such words.
bodine, you ever known a woman who had an abortion?
yes
yes there are, and your smearing me someone who "go[es] around getting whatever you [I] can and if she gets pregnant your [my] first word is abortion" is a perfect example of a time when it's an appropriate response.
did she make her decision on a whim?
yes there are, and your smearing me someone who "go[es] around getting whatever you [I] can and if she gets pregnant your [my] first word is abortion" is a perfect example of a time when it's an appropriate response. No. The word wasn't apparopriate. I believe my statement is true in many many cases.
did she make her decision on a whim? It appears to me yes. It was also made out of selfishness and concern for her future entirely.
so, you should have killed her.
and so now everything that "appears" to be through your warped little conscience is now a fact?
fuck that
no applied to me (as you have so desparately tried to), which is why fuck you.
there you go trying to enforce your conscience on others again.
you really need to control, don't you?
so, you should have killed her.
That really has got to be one of the most ignorant statements I have read. Was it supposed to be a question? If it was the answer is no. If abortion had been illegal she should have been prosecuted. But it wasn't illegal.
no applied to me (as you have so desparately tried to), which is why fuck you.
It may apply to you for all I know.
there you go trying to enforce your conscience on others again. The word offers nothing. It is a word used by small people with small minds.
you are the one saying that she is a murderer.
that's what people like you do with murderers, you kill them.
so now "may" is enough reason to consider it fact?
it MAY apply to you too for all I know...can I say you are for abortion then?
you are the one saying that she is a murderer.
that's what people like you do with murderers, you kill them.
I didn't say I was going to kill anyone. It would be illegal. Second, murderers are given a trial by jury, then they must be convicted, then death must be imposed in jurisdictions where it is provided by law, then they have state and federal appeals then they may apply for clemency. it is called due process.
it MAY apply to you too for all I know...can I say you are for abortion then?
You don't see me advocating abortion.
but you MAY be.
but it APPEARS that you think it's murder and it APPEARS that you think the death penalty MAY be a good thing for murderers.
but it APPEARS that you think it's murder and it APPEARS that you think the death penalty MAY be a good thing for murderers.
abortion should be a crime. I would have no problem with applying the death penalty to abortion providers upon conviction.
if also APPEARS that you think the fetuses of pregnant Iraqi women are not sacred human life. It appears that you think they are "collateral" that are expendable.
why not the woman who actually made the choice? They were there, they had it done. They participated. No one was making them.
and you try to claim that life is sacred...fucking pathetic
if also APPEARS that you think the fetuses of pregnant Iraqi women are not sacred human life. It appears that you think they are "collateral" that are expendable.
I hope they are not killed. You apparently have a problem with the concept of intent.
why not the woman who actually made the choice? They were there, they had it done. They participated. No one was making them.
She should be penalized but as I told you before the person that actually commits the act is, to me, more culpable.
and you try to claim that life is sacred...fucking pathetic
This just shows that you don't understand or are intentionally misrepresenting my position. I don't think life is "sacred." I believe a person can forfeit his or her right to live based on certain acts.
what nonsense.
you are saying that a mob boss is less culpable than the button man?
sounds to me like you are just trying to justify not having to call women who have abortion murderers.
they are there.
they participate in it.
Charlie Manson didn't kill any of those people you know. He wasn't even there.
you fucks won't be happy until everyone you disagree with is in prison.
whoops!
it was an ACCIDENT! Honest!
what a load of garbage.
you KNOW that innocents will be killed and you go ahead anyway.
She should be penalized but as I told you before the person that actually commits the act is, to me, more culpable.
what nonsense.
Nonsense? Not at all. In fact, it makes perfect sense.
you are saying that a mob boss is less culpable than the button man? My guess is the mob boss did some killing of his own before he became mob boss. But you probably should equate the abortion provider with the mob boss and not a woman seeking an abortion. Which one is making a monetary profit on the death?
sounds to me like you are just trying to justify not having to call women who have abortion murderers. No not at all.
they participate in it. I see the cocaine supplier more culpable than the user. Do you understand that?
Charlie Manson didn't kill any of those people you know. If you say so. I am not a fan of Charlie but will take the word of those that may be.
you KNOW that innocents will be killed and you go ahead anyway.
I know that it will likely happen. I see the danger of inaction as being greater than that of action. I believe there will be many more dead if we don't act.
you fucks won't be happy until everyone you disagree with is in prison.
I am surprised you didn't say dead.
so now we are judging based on GUESSES. Why am I not surprised?
so now we are judging murder based on if there was a profit motive?
no...drug laws are bullshit. Another example of your type wanting to imprison all who don't think like you.
of course to you "act" means "kill", and if it's innocents, oh fucking well.
you are justifying killing based on what MAY happen now.
but if a woman justifies ending her pregnancy based on the bad that MAY result if she doesn't, she's a murderer?
or dead.
One clearly is cold and calculating and monetarily benefiting on the emotional state of the woman as well as the death of the child.
a proabortionist idea:
okay, you want to imprision all who don't behave like you.
A student at a junior high school in Pennsylvania was told to remove the pro-life T-shirt he was wearing because the message was the equivalent of a swastika, reports the Thomas More Law Center.
The unnamed student wore a shirt reading: "Abortion is Homicide. You will not silence my message. You will not mock my God. You will stop killing my generation. Rock for Life."
The center says the principal of Anington Junior High School told the student to either cover the shirt or turn the shirt inside out because the message was inappropriate to be displayed in school. He said the shirt and message were the equivalent of a swastika being displayed on a shirt.
Another irrational liberal rant:
you do like stealing other peoples' posts don't you, jethro?
neither absolute relativism nor absolutism are sound theories
What is a sound theory in your mind?
how did I steal it? I am using it as an example.
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