I think that most people would disagree, at least on the issue of US policy toward North Korea.Our own long-time partners in the world are turning their backs on us. One country that was too cowardly to take on an enemy and suffered four years of occupation and another country that had been totally destroyed after being the aggressor.One by one, they fall away and leave us isolated. How many, fold? three?Yet Dubbya ratchets up the "War Rhetoric" with each passing day, while at home, our economy stumbles at best and our people fear for themselves and their children and their nation, we are searched and double searched, our freedoms are slowly being impaired and curtailed with each passing day and yet I don't see ANYBODY trying to sit down, and TALK. I don't know about you but I don't see my freedoms have been curtailed in the last two years. But if you want to go back and talk about the prior 100 years, lets do it!
You're right it's all Georges fault that N. Korea has nukes that could reach here. (Hmmm, where are all the missle defense opponents? Where'd they go?)
It's his fault that Alqueida wants to nuke or use chemicals on us.
All of which would be unaffected by having more troops, unless you are advocating invading N.Korea and every nation that AlQuieda is in, which is around 60 nations.
He's been hit with more stuff than many past presidents combined. Is he perfect ? Hell no, All I can say is thank God A guy named Al isn't in the White House.
We can exchange polls all day that support your beliefs and I can post em all day that support mine. And we're right back to where we are. Polls have been wrong many times ie: the last election. There are so many factors in them and are dependant on where and how questions are asked. It seems polls themselves have a way of shaping news. The line has been blurred between reporting and manufacturing news.
"Alliance solidarity has prevailed," NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said in announcing the agreement late Sunday. "We have been able collectively to overcome the impasse."
The Democrats are ready to launch a filibuster to prevent a vote on the nomination of Miguel Estrada to the D.C. Court of Appeals. A primary moving force behind the filibuster is the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy. So, just how does Mr. Leahy feel about filibustering judicial nominees? For that we only have to go to 144 Cong. Rec. S6522 (June 18, 1998):
"I have stated over and over again on this floor that I would refuse to put an anonymous hold on any judge; that I would object and fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is somebody I opposed or supported; that I felt the Senate should do its duty. If we don't like somebody the President nominates, vote him or her down. But don't hold them in this anonymous unconscionable limbo, because in doing that, the minority of Senators really shame all Senators."
I guess that was then, and this is now ... right, Senator Leahy?
These people have lost all sense of proportion and they have forgotten how to act like senators. This step is shameful and unprecedented. Even the Clinton-haters didn't go this far.
Bill, I know that the Dems are doing what the Repubs did to Clinton, and the Repubs are screaming just as loudly. But there hasn't been a true filibuster for a long time, because the Senate has been so closely held that just the threat has been enough to avoid one. This is different, however. Holding up judicial appointments by filibuster is unprecedented.
The Dems will look bad if they filibuster against a Hispanic (or female) nominee. It will also look bad because they'll be signalling that the ONLY objection they seem to have against a nominee will be his/her SEEMING lack of full support on the abortion issue. This will marginalize them more than they know.
Davis' approval ratings are hovering under 30 percent. Many blame his perceived bungling of the state's energy crisis and mismanagement of the state budget, which the governor himself estimates is in deficit to the tune of $35 billion.
"When he became governor he was left with a $10 billion surplus and immediately went on the most aggressive spending campaign of any state in America," said Shawn Steel, chairman of the California Republican Party.
The UCLA Bruin Republicans riled up a top California Democrat and other liberals by holding an affirmative-action bake sale.
"The sale, held on Bruin Walk on Feb. 3, offered cookies at different prices depending on the customer's race and gender," reporter Nicolas Taborek writes in the Daily Bruin.
"Black, Latina and American Indian females were charged 25 cents for cookies that cost males of minority descent 50 cents. White females were charged $1, and white males and all Asian Americans were charged $2.
"Students selling the cookies were assigned name tags portraying them as 'Uncle Tom,' 'The White Oppressor' and 'Self-Hating Hispanic Race Traitor.'"
The event infuriated Art Torres, chairman of the California Democratic Party. "I am deeply saddened and disheartened at the activities of the Bruin Republicans," he said. "It is a shame that Republicans at UCLA have chosen to mimic the extreme views of their Republican leaders," Mr. Torres added.
Just proves to me that the liberals are intolerant and lacking a sense of humor.
It's interesting that in the past week, every news report I've heard or read on the budget deficit has mentioned, in an almost mantra-like fashion, that Minnesota is one of the most-taxed states in the nation. But rarely is it mentioned (except by City Pages' Beth Hawkins, who wrote an instructive account of our current "crisis" in the Feb. 5 issue), that Minnesota also led the nation in making permanent tax cuts during the Never-Neverland '90.
We supposedly led the nation in tax cuts, yet we're still one of the most heavily taxed states in the nation.
Tell me then where would we be if not for fiscal Conservatives keeping Liberal spending in check?
I'll say it again, you want to save the world, more power to ya. Send in a check to charity right this minute. Just don't expect to force the rest of us to support your social agenda and choice of charities via taxes.
A lawyer who runs similar sessions for Republicans says, "There's an initial stage where the reaction is, 'This can't be true.' And then there's the actual anger stage."
That's a pretty good description of the average American's reaction upon learning that his elected representatives can't be troubled to familiarize themselves with the laws they pass. Instead they vote for a general idea, leaving the details to be worked out by administrative agencies and the courts. What they produce is not really law, in the sense of rules that people can reasonably be expected to understand and follow.
And given that only America offers a viable alternative to both militant Islam and secularism/socialism, if we lose the battle here, humanity has a very dark future.
seems that the poll numbers for that question have been steadliy high. Why is it the only one liberals question?
As for his mubers being down, what did you expect that they would stay around 90%? They may be down because he hasn't made the move yet. He needs to get it done.
Whew! I managed to dodge welfare. After exactly 1 month of unemployment I finally got hired. A round of drinks for all! I wish I didn't need to wait until the end of March to start, but knowing I have a job has taken a load off of my shoulders.
What filibuster? Is there a full Senate filibuster going on? I know Orrin Hatch just overrode a committee filibuster today to release some names to the full Senate.
It used to be that a nominee was approved if he or she was a good judge, regardless of any real or imagined political affiliation. Now it seems that ideology matters most. Shame on both sides of the aisle. The Senate is supposed to be above such shenanigans.
They paint a picture of a guy that will NOT answer common questions that every other nominee has had to answer, and it paints a picture of a republican leadership that is now using the Race Card, to paint the Democrats as the bad guys, because they had the audacity to ask the man the questions!!!
If the race card can be played it should be able to be played by both sides. The democraps know Estrada's positions. They don't need to ask any more questions. The democraps opposition proves without a doubt that they don't care one damn bit about the race of anyone it is all about their left wing agenda.
Why won't he answer them?
He has answered all the questions put to him to the extent all judicial nominees answer the questions put to them. Estrada is not being treated like an other nominee because he is conservative. This is being done solely for ideological reasons alone. He is qualified. The left wing American Bar Association has made that determination. It should be sufficient for the left wingers in the Senate.
Bill, they are also asking for personnal notes on cases he has worked on. This has never been done before and also violates the seperation of powers. This is purely political and the man is qualified. Now the Democrats are talking about doing this to 2 more judges? The public will see this as obstructionism and will hold the Democrats responsible.
Why won't he answer them? Why do they have to rubber-stamp the man?
Because they are irrelevant to the job. No one in the past has had to answer the questions they are posing to this man. The judical appointment litmus test is a new Democrat creation.
Yeah, the sky is falling and Dubya's not doing anything to hold it up.
::shakes head::
I think that most people would disagree, at least on the issue of US policy toward North Korea.Our own long-time partners in the world are turning their backs on us. One country that was too cowardly to take on an enemy and suffered four years of occupation and another country that had been totally destroyed after being the aggressor.One by one, they fall away and leave us isolated. How many, fold? three?Yet Dubbya ratchets up the "War Rhetoric" with each passing day, while at home, our economy stumbles at best and our people fear for themselves and their children and their nation, we are searched and double searched, our freedoms are slowly being impaired and curtailed with each passing day and yet I don't see ANYBODY trying to sit down, and TALK. I don't know about you but I don't see my freedoms have been curtailed in the last two years. But if you want to go back and talk about the prior 100 years, lets do it!
Bill,
You're right it's all Georges fault that N. Korea has nukes that could reach here. (Hmmm, where are all the missle defense opponents? Where'd they go?)
It's his fault that Alqueida wants to nuke or use chemicals on us.
All of which would be unaffected by having more troops, unless you are advocating invading N.Korea and every nation that AlQuieda is in, which is around 60 nations.
He's been hit with more stuff than many past presidents combined. Is he perfect ? Hell no, All I can say is thank God A guy named Al isn't in the White House.
Bill,
We can exchange polls all day that support your beliefs and I can post em all day that support mine. And we're right back to where we are. Polls have been wrong many times ie: the last election. There are so many factors in them and are dependant on where and how questions are asked. It seems polls themselves have a way of shaping news. The line has been blurred between reporting and manufacturing news.
Well, I saw on the news yesterday morning 66% backed the president on the use of force in Iraq.
Even with a 10% margin of error, it still leaves a majority of American's backing him on this issue.
The US won't be going it alone. When push comes to shove, our allies back us.
Who cares what France, Russia or China think?
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NATO Breaks Monthlong Impasse on Defense Planning for Turkey
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78718,00.html
"Alliance solidarity has prevailed," NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said in announcing the agreement late Sunday. "We have been able collectively to overcome the impasse."
France, again.
Once France was locked out of the meeting Germany and Belgium dropped objections. That is the sound of France becoming irrelivant.
The Democrats are ready to launch a filibuster to prevent a vote on the nomination of Miguel Estrada to the D.C. Court of Appeals. A primary moving force behind the filibuster is the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy. So, just how does Mr. Leahy feel about filibustering judicial nominees? For that we only have to go to 144 Cong. Rec. S6522 (June 18, 1998):
I guess that was then, and this is now ... right, Senator Leahy?
These people have lost all sense of proportion and they have forgotten how to act like senators. This step is shameful and unprecedented. Even the Clinton-haters didn't go this far.
Wolvie,
Two threads, two bullseyes on either hypocrisy or a massive change in attitude.
An appeals court nomination had never been filibustered until now.
Bill, I know that the Dems are doing what the Repubs did to Clinton, and the Repubs are screaming just as loudly. But there hasn't been a true filibuster for a long time, because the Senate has been so closely held that just the threat has been enough to avoid one. This is different, however. Holding up judicial appointments by filibuster is unprecedented.
The Dems will look bad if they filibuster against a Hispanic (or female) nominee. It will also look bad because they'll be signalling that the ONLY objection they seem to have against a nominee will be his/her SEEMING lack of full support on the abortion issue. This will marginalize them more than they know.
Taxpayer Group Mounts Davis Recall Initiative
Davis' approval ratings are hovering under 30 percent. Many blame his perceived bungling of the state's energy crisis and mismanagement of the state budget, which the governor himself estimates is in deficit to the tune of $35 billion.
"When he became governor he was left with a $10 billion surplus and immediately went on the most aggressive spending campaign of any state in America," said Shawn Steel, chairman of the California Republican Party.
The cookies of wrath
The UCLA Bruin Republicans riled up a top California Democrat and other
liberals by holding an affirmative-action bake sale.
"The sale, held on Bruin Walk on Feb. 3, offered cookies at different
prices depending on the customer's race and gender," reporter Nicolas Taborek writes in the Daily Bruin.
"Black, Latina and American Indian females were charged 25 cents for
cookies that cost males of minority descent 50 cents. White females were charged $1, and white males and all Asian Americans were charged $2.
"Students selling the cookies were assigned name tags portraying them
as 'Uncle Tom,' 'The White Oppressor' and 'Self-Hating Hispanic Race
Traitor.'"
The event infuriated Art Torres, chairman of the California Democratic
Party. "I am deeply saddened and disheartened at the activities of the Bruin Republicans," he said. "It is a shame that Republicans at UCLA have chosen to mimic the extreme views of their Republican leaders," Mr. Torres added.
Just proves to me that the liberals are intolerant and lacking a sense of humor.
LOL!
That made my day.
LOL,
That was great Wolvie :)
Does anyone one wonder why it seems it is only the liberal boards that will ban posting when they get points of view they don't like?
LAURA BILLINGS: Where's the compassion in this conservatism?
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/5218494.htm
It's interesting that in the past week, every news report I've heard or read on the budget deficit has mentioned, in an almost mantra-like fashion, that Minnesota is one of the most-taxed states in the nation. But rarely is it mentioned (except by City Pages' Beth Hawkins, who wrote an instructive account of our current "crisis" in the Feb. 5 issue), that Minnesota also led the nation in making permanent tax cuts during the Never-Neverland '90.
We supposedly led the nation in tax cuts, yet we're still one of the most heavily taxed states in the nation.
Tell me then where would we be if not for fiscal Conservatives keeping Liberal spending in check?
I'll say it again, you want to save the world, more power to ya. Send in a check to charity right this minute. Just don't expect to force the rest of us to support your social agenda and choice of charities via taxes.
A lawyer who runs similar sessions for Republicans says, "There's an initial stage where the reaction is, 'This can't be true.' And then there's the actual anger stage."
That's a pretty good description of the average American's reaction upon learning that his elected representatives can't be troubled to familiarize themselves with the laws they pass. Instead they vote for a general idea, leaving the details to be worked out by administrative agencies and the courts. What they produce is not really law, in the sense of rules that people can reasonably be expected to understand and follow.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jacobsullum/js20030221.shtml
"Just proves to me that the liberals are intolerant and lacking a sense of humor. "
Tolerance is an overrated virtue to conservatives, isn't it?
As for humor, hell, you laugh at us all the time. You got the power to chortle at those silly peaceloveandunderstanding people.
We're under your thumb, Wolvie.
We're under your thumb, Wolvie.
Welcome back, Rick. You poor victim, you!
'Bout time someone noticed.
Good to see ya, Rick.
Where you been? I remember you mentioning a trip somewhere but I can't remember where.
Awww, Rick -- here, have a cookie.
I was in Portugal most of last week.
We're under your thumb, Wolvie.
Wow, I didn't realize I had that much power.
It was a figurative reference, of course.
But honestly, I think liberal thought has less power and influence now than it ever has.
But honestly, I think liberal thought has less power and influence now than it ever has.
Liberal thought?!! hahahahahahah....... Good one, Rick!!!!!
our extremist left wing friends just keep at it:
And given that only America offers a viable alternative to both militant Islam and secularism/socialism, if we lose the battle here, humanity has a very dark future.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030225.shtml
"In 1998, Pat Leahy said he opposed any filibuster against any judge, even somebody he opposed.
"In 1998, Pat Leahy said the Senate had a duty to give every judicial nominee a vote.
"In 1998, Pat Leahy said allowing a minority of senators to block a vote on a judicial nominee shamed all senators.
That was 1998. Today, Pat Leahy is blocking a Senate vote on Miguel Estrada.
Shame on you, Pat Leahy. Shame.
Didn't the polls also show the Dems making gains in 2002?
New poll shows that polls are meaningless:
from fold's poll:
"Do you approve or disapprove of the United States taking military action against Iraq to try to remove Saddam Hussein from power?"
Approve 66% Disapprove 29% Don't Know 5%
Looks like Bush has the support he needs.
seems that the poll numbers for that question have been steadliy high. Why is it the only one liberals question?
As for his mubers being down, what did you expect that they would stay around 90%? They may be down because he hasn't made the move yet. He needs to get it done.
Whew! I managed to dodge welfare. After exactly 1 month of unemployment I finally got hired. A round of drinks for all! I wish I didn't need to wait until the end of March to start, but knowing I have a job has taken a load off of my shoulders.
CONGRATS, CSC! It's tough out there -- my husband's been out of a job since August.
3K joe.
Missed it! Not on my toes
Damn you stole my 3000!
I missed it too Rick.
Ashcroft is an overwhelmingly decent man. He is not a racist or "intolerant religious fanatic."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20030227.shtml
Perhaps Leahy cannot stop the current filibuster...? Did he inititate it? I don't know who did, really.
He is part of it and was one of the ones that started it. He is a world class hypocrit.
Not that I doubt you, because I don't. But can anyone point to a relatively Non-Biased story, that kinda sums up the current filibuster?
What is relatively non-biased to you? Slate?
What filibuster? Is there a full Senate filibuster going on? I know Orrin Hatch just overrode a committee filibuster today to release some names to the full Senate.
Estrada debate drags on
Democrats say they have enough votes to block Estrada vote
GOP, Dems spar over Estrada vote
I think these 3 links sum it up pretty good.
Thanks for the links, Wolvie.
It used to be that a nominee was approved if he or she was a good judge, regardless of any real or imagined political affiliation. Now it seems that ideology matters most. Shame on both sides of the aisle. The Senate is supposed to be above such shenanigans.
They paint a picture of a guy that will NOT answer common questions that every other nominee has had to answer,
and it paints a picture of a republican leadership that is now using the Race Card, to paint the Democrats as the bad guys, because they had the audacity to ask the man the questions!!!
If the race card can be played it should be able to be played by both sides. The democraps know Estrada's positions. They don't need to ask any more questions. The democraps opposition proves without a doubt that they don't care one damn bit about the race of anyone it is all about their left wing agenda.
Why won't he answer them?
He has answered all the questions put to him to the extent all judicial nominees answer the questions put to them. Estrada is not being treated like an other nominee because he is conservative. This is being done solely for ideological reasons alone. He is qualified. The left wing American Bar Association has made that determination. It should be sufficient for the left wingers in the Senate.
Bill, they are also asking for personnal notes on cases he has worked on. This has never been done before and also violates the seperation of powers. This is purely political and the man is qualified. Now the Democrats are talking about doing this to 2 more judges? The public will see this as obstructionism and will hold the Democrats responsible.
Why won't he answer them? Why do they have to rubber-stamp the man?
Because they are irrelevant to the job. No one in the past has had to answer the questions they are posing to this man. The judical appointment litmus test is a new Democrat creation.