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crabgrass

National Institutes of Health (NIH) scientists have discovered that cannabidiol, a non-psychoactive, naturally-occurring substance in the marijuana plant, is a potent antioxidant which can prevent brain cell death in an experimental stroke model. The cannabinoid's neuroprotective properties matched or surpassed other antioxidants in the cell culture model, report National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) researchers Aidan Hampson, Ph.D., Julius Axelrod, Ph.D., and NIH colleagues.

As an antioxidant, cannabidiol might hold promise for preventing brain damage in stroke, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, and perhaps, heart attacks, say the researchers.

whoops!

turns out that pot may have prevented Ronnie Reagan from getting Alzheimer's.

maybe he should have just said yes

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 1:25 AM Permalink
crabgrass

nah...I'm always around

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 2:21 AM Permalink
THX 1138



::In Tommy Chong voice::

Yeah man, Clinton will never get Alzheimer's, man.

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 5:33 AM Permalink
crabgrass

not only that, there is evidence that marijuana helps prevent cancer from tobacco smoke

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 6:14 AM Permalink
Muskwa

Really? Is there a link to that, crab?

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 8:31 AM Permalink
crabgrass

here ya go

basically, it says that Delta(9)-THC inhibits the cancer causing enzyme found in tobacco smoke.

there is also evidence that it has the effect of reducing the inflammation of certain brain receptors that may be the cause of Alzheimer's.

Mon, 02/17/2003 - 5:29 PM Permalink
THX 1138



Yeah man, smoking dope is more than cool. It's anti cancer, man.

Tue, 02/18/2003 - 6:29 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Yeah man, I do say so, man.

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 8:36 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

I don't know but I could use some chips and a Dew, dude.............Hey Throw some Ffloyd on the 8 track will ya?

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 12:51 PM Permalink
Muskwa

HOO HOO?

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 2:57 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Hey at least he didn't say give me a ho. :)

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 3:22 PM Permalink
THX 1138



ASAP

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 3:47 PM Permalink
Wolvie

Huh?

Where'd my bong go man???

Wed, 02/19/2003 - 10:17 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Here's a tip for ya' Don't drink the bong water.

Thu, 02/20/2003 - 1:21 PM Permalink
THX 1138



the grey-hairs among us will NEVER see a "Prescription-Drug Benefit",

Good! Why should the taxpayer pay for something they should be paying themselves?

$100 Billion Dollars for Iraq

Peanuts compared to what other countries pay annually in higher gas prices. If this is all about "blood for oil", you'd think all Americans would be happy.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 5:37 AM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

If this is all about "blood for oil", you'd think all Americans would be happy

Why would one think that? That assumes that "all" Americans value oil above life, and this I know is un-true.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 6:27 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

It's the free movement of oil, at market prices.

A subtle, but important distinction, that cannot fit on a bumper sticker or easily chanted.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 6:42 AM Permalink
Muskwa

I am in favor of a THOROUGH clean-up of Medicare, and THEN a prescription drug benefit that is means-tested.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 6:45 AM Permalink
THX 1138



I'm for cheap oil

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 8:57 AM Permalink
Lance Brown

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 10:43 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Screw it I say invade those Canadians for their cheap drugs ! I can hear the protest now. Scraggly lookinh guy in a beard wearing beads Holding a bullhorn......................."Hey ho we won't go for Cipro"

This here's a protest for prozac !

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 12:57 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Good! Why should the taxpayer pay for something they should be paying themselves?

medicine should be free

if we are such a hot shit country, we should be able to take care of our people better than that.

It has something to do with being a human being.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 1:02 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

nearly half

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 1:16 PM Permalink
Byron White

medicine should be free

Anyone with one ounce of sense knows NOTHING is free.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 1:47 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Anyone with one ounce of sense knows NOTHING is free

of course

air isn't free

thought isn't free

at least not in your world

anyone with one ounce of sense would know that the word free as used in this context means a cost that is assumed by the society at large and provided free of charge to the individual.

the fact is, like marijuana, most legal medicines cost almost nothing to actually make.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 2:22 PM Permalink
Byron White

thought isn't free

Real thought takes effort, but I doubt you understand that.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 2:28 PM Permalink
Byron White

anyone with one ounce of sense would know that the word free as used in this context means a cost that is assumed by the society at large and provided free of charge to the individual.

A misnomer no doubt.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 2:30 PM Permalink
Lance Brown

You could set up a non-profit to take care of that. I think it sounds like a great idea. And if medicine truly "should be free" you should have no problem making it happen.

anyone with one ounce of sense would know that the word free as used in this context means a cost that is assumed by the society at large and provided free of charge to the individual.

I don't think it's that self-evident that that's what it means. Why couldn't it mean that the producers of medicines and health care assume most of the cost? Or why couldn't it mean that that part of society who shares your view assumes the cost? For that matter, the way you originally stated it, it sounded like simplistic liberal blind wishful thinking. What reason would anyone have had to assume it was anything more than that?

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 2:44 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Why couldn't it mean that the producers of medicines and health care assume most of the cost?

because I'm not arguing for the privatization of medicine.

Or why couldn't it mean that that part of society who shares your view assumes the cost?

for the same reason that this doesn't mean you are saying "of course, I knew exactly what you meant by that context" when you ask that.

For that matter, the way you originally stated it, it sounded like simplistic liberal blind wishful thinking. What reason would anyone have had to assume it was anything more than that?

none

no more than I would have any reason to assume that you would have any understand of anything.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 7:51 PM Permalink
crabgrass

You could set up a non-profit to take care of that.

yea...I could call it national health care.

no...wait...your premise is wrong.

you or me (singular) can't do it.

the operative word would need to be "we"

and "we" have a system...it's called our government.

can't do "we" very well without it.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 7:53 PM Permalink
THX 1138



medicine should be free

Why should medicine be free over any other product? Why not give away free food, free crack, free porn, free cigarettes, free gas......

if we are such a hot shit country, we should be able to take care of our people better than that.

We are a hot shit country. Because we have a history of working hard for what we get.

It has something to do with being a human being.

Whatever that means.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 8:23 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Why should medicine be free over any other product? Why not give away free food, free crack, free porn, free cigarettes, free gas......

those other things are electives, but food...sure, food should be free too.

do you really think if health and food were for all pratical purposes free that we would just stop working hard?

I think that more people would be able to contribute to our society this way, not less.

Whatever that means

it means being an evolved and evolving creature.

of course the church may not care for this evolution thing even though their poster boy was all for this sort of shit.

I'm sorry you don't understand what being a human being means

I think that's a big root of the problem

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 8:44 PM Permalink
crabgrass

We are a hot shit country. Because we have a history of working hard for what we get.

actually, we have a history of stealing land and forcing slaves to work hard for us.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 8:47 PM Permalink
Lance Brown

because I'm not arguing for the privatization of medicine.

You weren't "arguing" for anything in the quote I was referring to. You said "medicine should be free." It's your own limitations, not my lack of understanding, that results in me seeing three ways to solve that problem where you see only one.

can't do "we" very well without it.

Right, without it protecting us from harm caused by each other. If you're trying to suggest that people can't band together with others to solve problems without government, then see above.

Thu, 03/13/2003 - 10:43 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"those other things are electives, but food...sure, food should be free too."

What kind of Free Food you want us all to be eating?

I bet it's boring!

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 4:57 AM Permalink
THX 1138



those other things are electives, but food...sure, food should be free too.

I don't get it. Why should anyone get anything for free. Where I come from that's called stealing.

do you really think if health and food were for all pratical purposes free that we would just stop working hard?

Yes. Take for example those milking the welfare system. They have no incentive to work hard for anything.

it means being an evolved and evolving creature.

What are you evolving into?

of course the church may not care for this evolution thing even though their poster boy was all for this sort of shit.

I don't get what you mean. Are you saying Jesus was for a national health care system?

I'm sorry you don't understand what being a human being means

I understand totally what being a human being is. I just didn't understand what you were saying.

I think that's a big root of the problem

I think our biggest problem is feel good idealists.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 5:35 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Well, the VA has been providing low-cost prescriptions for YEARS

Bottom line, the taxpayer is paying for it no matter what the price.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 5:37 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Just when American cuisine is starting to get some recognition some guy wants us waiting in line for dried beans and flour.

I tell you, Daniel Bouloud won't do it. He'll close his restaurant in New York and go to Paris before he cooks with that pale, flavorless cheese and canned meat.

The government will turn the Napa Valley into endless rice paddies.

This is bad.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 5:53 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"it means being an evolved and evolving creature.

What are you evolving into?"

Without a crisp chardonnay, or some decent balsamic vinegar or olive oil, or fresh herbs you can do nothing but de-evolve, I'll tell you that.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 6:02 AM Permalink
Byron White

actually, we have a history of stealing land and forcing slaves to work hard for us.

We also have a history of hard work and self relaince.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:14 AM Permalink
Byron White

Without a crisp chardonnay, or some decent balsamic vinegar or olive oil, or fresh herbs you can do nothing but de-evolve, I'll tell you that.

Nonsense.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:16 AM Permalink
crabgrass

It's your own limitations, not my lack of understanding, that results in me seeing three ways to solve that problem where you see only one.

well, if you don't understand, it's not like I disappear. If you don't get it, you can always ask what I mean and then I call explain it. It's called a dialog. The fact is, there are actually people who, when presented with the statement "medicine should be free", find the meaning obvious. I can't help that you aren't one of them.

I don't get it. Why should anyone get anything for free. Where I come from that's called stealing.

you mean like stealing the land to grow it on?

those boys from Ohio with the flowerpot hats were right

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:18 AM Permalink
crabgrass

We also have a history of hard work and self relaince.

built on theft and slavery.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:19 AM Permalink
Byron White

The fact is, there are actually people who, when presented with the statement "medicine should be free", find the meaning obvious. I can't help that you aren't one of them.

Yeah they BELIEVE they don't have to pay for it. Do they understand that someone will, including themselves, with a huge inefficient bureaucracy taking a big bite of their hard earned dollar?

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:24 AM Permalink
Byron White

We also have a history of hard work and self relaince.

built on theft and slavery.

Seperate and independent from those acts. You go ahead with your hate America attitude all you want. All I can say to you is go to hell you worthless piece of ****.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:25 AM Permalink
crabgrass

self relaince

self-reliance...uh...no

we achieve things as a group

name me one thing you have acheived by your "self"

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:35 AM Permalink
crabgrass

Yeah they BELIEVE they don't have to pay for it

so, you think you should be paying for the air and the water too?

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:37 AM Permalink
crabgrass

Seperate and independent from those acts. You go ahead with your hate America attitude all you want.

you want to separate yourself ffrom the truth of history?

In order to not "hate" America I have to pretend that the truth of it's history doesn't exist?

It's not a "hate" attitude. It's a "truth" attitude.

your's is a "lie to yourself and ignore reality" attitude

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:40 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Would we have to start eating boring food in your world, Crabgrass?

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 8:42 AM Permalink
Byron White

Your attitude seems to be, Crabs, that the result of recognizing the truth results in hatred. Nonsense.

Fri, 03/14/2003 - 9:18 AM Permalink