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2003 Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt

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Allison Wonderland

If you knew about the Middle School, and you could see trails and woods and somewhat hazardous terrain, as well as water and bridges, that would have been enough to find it once you got there. Most everything else related to street names and the park or what it was hidden in. Obviously Jake had some trouble getting to the right park, and once he was there, I don't know how sure he was about it other than that that's where others seemed to be gathering, but he had enough to go on by that point.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 9:57 PM Permalink
jakeinge

To those who offered congratulations, thanks. To those of you are mad, sorry! What am I supposed to do, not find the treasure purposely to make all of you happy? The funny thing is, I have never met most of you before! How can you pass judgement, you don't even know me! (For that matter, I don't think any of you really know me or what I'm about)And as far as the metal detector goes, what do you expect? (My model is $48 at Radio Shack)Go buy one! Ironically, the detector turned out to be a hinderence, there was no way to find the treasure using it! Go to the log and look for yourself!

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Mon, 03/17/2003 - 9:59 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Well when Jake and I were out there Thursday afternoon, we saw the entire Battle Creek park, at least the St. Paul side. When we got the middle school, I will admit that I pointed to it from where we were down near the creek and said "hey look up there, thats battle creek middle school" that was the first time I put that together with the clue. And I went to BC because it seemed to be as good as any other park, and when I was there it felt right.

The only reason I didn't really go at this hunt full bore was that I scouted out that exact location with Allison 2 or 3 summers ago, when we were planning a combined effort mock hunt (had to be one of the first). We couldnt get over how good of a spot it was, and I didnt forget, and apparently neither did Allison. I never thought he would put a medallion that I was looking for there, but as always Allison is being sneaky even when he is being blatantly non-sneaky.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:06 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Palindrome- stop the bitching JOE

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:08 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I didn't forget, and apparently neither did Allison

He didn't and was wondering if you would remember.

I say we wait 48 hours before bombing Jake. ;o)

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:09 PM Permalink
ares


hmm. where was i when it was found? i was at home. burning a cd for me2's sis which she wanted delivered tonite. i was out at bc earlier today. i turned lunch into a two hour affair (definitely no pun intended ;)

tomorrow morning, i have to go take my car in to have a tire patched because the rear passenger side on my mystique needs a lot of air on the bottom.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:21 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

What am I supposed to do, not find the treasure purposely to make all of you happy?

no, but try some integrity, you might get more congradulations that way. I used to think you were dedicated to the hunt, and was impressed by how much knowledge you gained and time you put into it, but you seem to be more obsessed with winning than playing the game. Marley is admittedly addicted to the hunt, but he's not obssesed with winning, and repeatedly said he wished someone else would find the FB hunt treasure and AW's treasure, so others could feel that feeling of finding it. If theres a hunt going on he's still gonna give it his all, but he plays fairly, even when he does play hard.

And if you were so sure of where it was and not clueless, why did you call Sunday night and tell me you were, asking for ideas? I gave you all my ideas and why I liked bc, whether it got you there or just confirmed that thats where it was, doesn't matter.

And as far as the metal detector goes, what do you expect? (My model is $48 at Radio Shack)Go buy one!

First of all I expected you to keep your word when you told Marley you wouldn't use a metal detector for aw's hunt, but I guess thats asking to much of you. I don't care if it helped you find it or not, the fact that you used it in the first place speaks alot about your character. Secondly, I would never use one, I prefer to use my brains and brawn, if thats not enough I don't care to find it.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:22 PM Permalink
Clue Master

which she wanted delivered tonight

Hey ares, can I get a ride from you? Do you mind doing the dishes for me? Can you buy me that new Porche that I had my eye on?
hehe

JK dude. It is a bit funny tho. ;o)

whether it got you there or just confirmed that thats where it was...

Your Governors noodle definitely helped confirm my thoughts ATH. Thanks again.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:24 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Thanks for the great hunt Allison. Clues 1, 6, 7, and 10 were my favorites. Clue 1 because it was clever, and no one got it. Clue 6 because I thought it was hilarious. Clue 7 because it was a neat clue, and I didn't figure it out myself, but found myself shaking my head at that I didn't figure it out (the mark of a truely great clue is that one that leaves you clueless without the explanation, but after the explanation you realise how 'easy' it was). And clue 10 because I wish it would have gotten to this clue, because I suspect that people would have made the other clues fit Kellogg, maybe not, but I think that could have happened especially if they didn't get the street referances. Also clue 11, Ho Ho Ho, classic!

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:49 PM Permalink
jakeinge

I wasn't sure where it was until AFTER the clue last night, and I called because I consider you and Marley friends.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:57 PM Permalink
jakeinge

Regman, don't ever threaten me again. I am 8 yrs. older and alot stronger.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:01 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

Regman, don't ever threaten me again. I am 8 yrs. older and alot stronger

and what do you call that? Give me a break! You ever touch him or any other kid and Iwill personally kick your ass! That's not a threat its a promise. Sounds like thats the only thing you'll understand.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:04 PM Permalink
Redbear

I actually went to 2 blockbusters on the east side and it was out in both places!

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:04 PM Permalink
jakeinge

So when someone threatens me its ok. When I simply tell them that its not in their best interest to do that I am a criminal element? You are smarter than that Artemis!

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:06 PM Permalink
jakeinge

Regman is a KID? Why arent I surpised? Didn't even know that! The funny thing is, I don't even know what he looks like! Is he talking about me or someone he THINKS is me?

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:09 PM Permalink
jakeinge

I thought I was tough when I was 12 too. Yeah, i'm gonna fight a 12 year old.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:10 PM Permalink
jakeinge

On a serious note, I don't appreciate threats being directed at me REGARDLESS of age.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:11 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

Ya, well I consider you an adult, and I expect better things of adults than threatening kids. If you paid any attention to anything around here, you'd know he's a kid. Oh, But thats right, its all about you isn't it.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:14 PM Permalink
Redbear

Here, here! If you don't like the guy, fine, but threats are over the line both ways.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:15 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

Keep it comin Jake, I've got all night, and you will not convince me that you are right.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:16 PM Permalink
jakeinge

Well, apparently. All anyone has done on this board tonight is complain about me. By the way, I DON'T CARE IF HE IS A KID. He is equally (sounds like in his case more) capable of a violent crime. When someone threatens me, I don't take it lightly, no matter how old or young. I am not the one who said I was going to beat him up. He said that to me.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:17 PM Permalink
jakeinge

Actually Artemis, I am going to sleep. I actually feel kind of bad for someone like Regman, he seems awfully impressionable. Too bad he hasn't developed the ability to form opinions for himself. On that note, Goodnight!

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:20 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I will personally kick your ass

Damn ATH! I don't think Jake knows who he's messin wit. He should of stopped long ago.

Marley be a lucky guy. You're awesome.

<edit>It's all good Jake

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:27 PM Permalink
jakeinge

PS Let the record show officially, I DO NOT KNOW REGMAN. I HAVE NEVER MET HIM NOR DO I KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE. FURTHERMORE, I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE IS THREATENING ME.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:29 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

thinking

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:42 PM Permalink
jakeinge

It's called sarcasm. You see, he acts very childish. When I said I didn't know that, I was using a sarcastic tone. I believe that in my next post I said something to the effect of "on a serious note"

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:46 PM Permalink
jakeinge

Correct, that is a threat. I don't like people threatening me, regardless of their age. If you have a problem with that, i'm sorry. If you allow people to do those kinds of things they will try to take advantage of you. Like I said before, I feel sorry for people like him. I have no idea who he is and no idea what his beef is, and I CERTAINLY have no idea why he would threaten me. I will not allow someone to do that though. In saying that, I wish the world was violence free, but it is people like Regman that create conflict. I come home from a nice dinner and see all this crap, it really is rediculous.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:53 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

I don't agree with some of the things Jake has done in the past, but in this case I think you guys are being unfair to him. From reading some of Regman's posts, it is apparent to me that he has some sort of personal vendetta against Jake, and as Jake had said before, I don't think the two have actually met. I have been just as mad as everyone else at Jake for some of the stunts he has pulled, and some of the things he has done in the past, but get over it. Why does this have to be personal?

Ask anyone who I've talked to, my main goal of this hunt was for you not to find it, and you did.

Number one, its not cool to make these things personal.

Number two, what did Jake do to YOU that made you hate him so much that your goal was for him to not find it?

Number three, if your only goal was to stop Jake from finding it, why did you spend so much time on this hunt? You noted yourself how much of your time and energy that you spent on this, and that makes me conclude that you would spend all you time and energy on Jake (in a negative way), which quite frankly scares me. And when you add in the posibility of violence, it makes me a bit squeemish.

Number four, if you are going to pick someone in the coolercrew to prevent from winning a mock hunt, you should do your homework and realise you shouldn't pick Jake. Pick me, make it your goal for me not to find Marley's coin. I probably won't get around to seriously looking for it anyway.

Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:59 PM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

I'm not judging Jake on Past alone, but on a cumulation of everything since I've known him. He said he thought Marley and I were his friends, and so did we, but friends don't lie to eachother, and he lied to us. That is my beef with Jake. I wasn't mad earlier, just disapointed, now I'm mad. Jake knew damn well how people would feel if he used a metal detector (he talked about it during the cr hunt), and did it anyway. I have no sympathy for him and if he can't handle the heat, he shouldn't of done what he did.

As for Reg, he is a kid, and he reacted poorly, I've already talked to him about it and told him it was uncalled for and calmed him down. He was atleast willing to look at what he said and realize maybe he over re-acted. As for knowing Jake, Reg has been reading the pp boards for four years, long enough to form his own opinion.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 12:49 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Last year, after Marley's hunt in Mears, Jake thought I was mad at him. I didn't react the greatest to him finding it, but it wasn't really directed at Jake. Part of it was frustration from being so close yet not finding it for a third time that year. We all get disappointed when it's found, and we're not the ones to find it. Well I got that, plus I got the extra bonus of seeing the treasure, where it was hidden, and how excited/happy the finder was. This is a passion for us, myself included. If it wasn't, would we spend late nights up waiting for clues, digging in parks, putting our lives on hold looking for a treasure in damn cold weather? Jake does put a lot of time and effort into the hunts, but I do too, as well as others. I'll put time into thinking about clues, driving around looking at parks, scouting, hunting, digging. One thing that made Marley's hunt hard to take was that I had been down there before, that I had figured out it was there earlier, but still didn't come away with it even though it's a small park. Jake wasn't there until that last clue came out, then he ended up finding it. So that's frustrating to be in the right park, and see someone who has been there less time find it. It's also hard because of what you put into it, you don't get the same out of it when you don't find it. The lost sleep, the time spent away from loved ones, the money spent on gas or fast food. Yes, finding it and having that distinction and honor is important to me. But I also want the prize. It's not that I'm materialistic. With this hunt, I was hoping to find it and use the money to take a trip to see my fiancee. The same would have went for other hunts. I had all those things weighing on me after Marley's hunt. I have them weighing on my after this hunt. Yeah, it sucks. Do I hate Jake? No, I don't think so. I envy him. I want to be able to find it. I don't want to see him win, partly because I want to be the one to find it, partly because I want to see someone else find it, and partly because I don't want the same person finding it all the time. Yes, Jake has said things I don't agree with. That's okay though. It's his life, he is free to have his own viewpoints. I don't talk to him as much because I don't know that we have much in common. We have different personalities, different interests.

I think we all need to settle down. We're all somewhat emotional from this hunt, and it's hard not being able to win. Reg is entitled to his opinion, Jake is entitled to his, just as anyone here is. We don't need the threats. They are only detracting from the experience overall. I would like to keep having hunts. Maybe I'm sadistic, since it gives me chances to feel the pain of being there and seeing someone else find it. There are positives to it though, and it is a passion to me. I think others enjoy the hunts to an extent also. I also would want as many people to participate as possible. Okay, I could probably rant and rave, ramble and preach some more, but I'll stop here. Let's just cool down for a few days guys. This is supposed to be fun, remember?

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 1:10 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Wow, you said everything that I was thinking. Except I was never going to take any mock hunt prize to go see my fiance. Well said 'kids!

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 6:40 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Just a little note to all of you who are upset; I have recieved emails or egrams from 8 different people saying that I have done nothing wrong. Two of which said that if they had metal detectors they also would have used them. The irony in all of this is the metal detector actually deterred me. It is big, bulky, and causes one to become complacent and overly dependant upon it. I now realize why PP hunts in which metal detectors were used were some of the longest in history. Sure I have been extremely lucky in these mock hunts, I just don't know why people are holding it against me! A parting thought.... I honestly believe I would have found it SOONER had I NOT had the detector.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 7:17 AM Permalink
Medallionator88

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 7:21 AM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

I agree that Jake can do what he wants and has a right to voice his opinion, and so can everyone else. BUT- he should have expected a mixed reaction at best, and if he doesn't like it he shouldn't have done what he did knowing how people feel about it. Does the ends justify the means? Thats something he should think about.

Our actions carry repercusions, and we all have to live with that, its called cause and effect. Taking responsibility for your actions is one step towards maturity, for some this is easily accomplished, others need to be reminded. If no one ever points it out, never expresses hurt or anger, never stands up to these people, will they ever grow? If I didn't give a shit at all about Jake I would have shut up a long time ago and wrote him off as an asshole I don't want to associate with, but I do see good things in him and have hope that he will learn and grow from this.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 7:23 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Fair enough Artemis..... I'll be down to Bugg's at 11 snake.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 7:29 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:11 AM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

I'll be down to Bugg's at 11 snake

Hey snake! Unfortunately I'm working nights, but I'm going to try to make it to AW's sat if I don't get called in to work.

life is not fair

lol ESD, you sound just like my mom when I was growing up!

Of course my reply, as always, is that life is what we make it, we all have a choice to make it fair or not. And as we witnessed with he PP hunt this year, those with cellphones had no real advantage as the guy who found it was the one in line not the one at the park, if anything they were at a disadvantage.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:24 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Thanks ESD.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:25 AM Permalink
jakeinge

It's off to bed, been up since 5am writing a paper that had to be emailed by 11.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:26 AM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

g'night jake. SCD's and MCL.

I'm off to sleep too, so I can get up and do it all over again...

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:29 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

I think what perhaps upsets people about the metal detector is that it gives the person a big advantage, and can really negate all the hard work a person can do. Hunter A could have the park figured out on clue 4, and spends the next three days looking around the park for the coin. Hunter B could have a metal detector, get to the park after Hunter A has been there 3 days, and find the coin in 5 minutes using the metal detector. I guess I looked at it as a sportsmanship issue. He had the option to use it and he did. He just will deal with the consequences of the action. I can't say that he's right or wrong though.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 8:34 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

My cell phone has a metal detector built in, and a plastic detector too!

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 9:37 AM Permalink
Mr. Med Hunter

Another great set of clues by AW. My bet is that Ian will have a geocache in that log before the war starts.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 10:39 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

I was certainly thinking about that, J. But the idea led me to even bigger plans. Now if I can convince the geo-gods ...

(I may need some help from you.)

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:16 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Alright, so let me see if I have my list straight thus far. I believe the people who said they were coming Saturday were:

ClueMaster
Artemis
Regman
LilMan
Terry (?)
TMK (?)
Tim the Hunter

Did anyone else tell me they were coming, or is planning to come? Maybe I need to go back and read the messages again.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:29 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Sure, he can come if he wants to hang out with a bunch of treasure hunting lunatics! Some people from my singles club may show up if they get bored since I won't be planning anything else for Saturday.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:35 AM Permalink
Clue Master

What time were you thinking? day or night?

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:37 AM Permalink
ares


i'm thinking about it, aw. i can't remember though if we made concrete plans or not for this saturday nite.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:39 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I was thinking night, unless that's not what everyone else was thinking. That is to say we meet around dinner time and stay until whenever.

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 11:43 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Hey, Mr. Rogers is having a treasure hunt on his show right now!

Tue, 03/18/2003 - 12:04 PM Permalink