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crabgrass

Do you believe the following?

okay...I'll answer it.

1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.

I believe they should be raised for rich white underachievers, who obviously have had them lowered for quite some time now, and keep them raised until such time that they are actually equal.

2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.

Education in language is good, period. Obiously, if you are going to live in America, it's a good idea to learn English, but this is no reason to not also learn other languages. Bilingual language for immigrant children from non-english speaking countries should be no problem since they need to learn english anyway. Requiring that english be taugh is fine. Requiring that another language also be taught is also okay. The immersion into english is going to happen outside of the schoolroom as well. Generally, learning language skills is a good idea and should be encouraged.

3. Murderers should never be put to death.

no one shouldever be put to death. That's why it's called murder.

4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.

The worldshould have adopted a ban (America included...especially)....if we are talking should haves.

5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.

I already pay for a military, don't I? Do I think public places of learning should be used as recruitment centers...no. If it's educational, sure, but if it's simply to recruit an army, do it off campus.

5. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.

waging war is always wrong.

6. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.

The state should only provide public schools, because that is what the state is...public. The state, by it's very definition, cannot provide a "private" school system. If you are getting public monies (albeit through vouchers) then you are no longer a private school and must adhere to the rules of the public school system, which means not endorsing a religion.

7. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.

nope. the whole system of politics by donation is corrupt. ideally, the teachers are public and shouldn't have to pay a union to be represented by our government in the first place....and the lawyers...well...no.

8. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.

of course. why the hell not?

9. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.

people's rights should be equal, period. so, yes.

10. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings.

as for the churches and synagogues...I don't think we should be able to tell them who can and cannot meet there..."conress shall make no law...etc". As for using space the public, including me, pays to have...no, they can't unless the rights of the people are equal (see #9).

11. The present high tax rates are good.

"good" isn't the word I would use. "needed" is the word I would use. If we had managed to keep that surplus thing goind for at least a little while, then we could reduce taxes, but everyone knows that when you owe money, you have to pay it off in a timely manner.

12. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values.

I don't know what a speech code is (and I want to know what "good and American values" means, exactly)

13. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.

I reject the term outright. Insert "different" and leave your morality at the doorstep.

14. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court.

again, leave your idea of morality at the door. The ideaof the UN is a good thing. The execution of it is more problematic, in part because of our unwillingness to use it properly.

15. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.

see #9

16. No abortions can be labeled immoral.

anything can be labeled immoral.

17. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section.

no.

18. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.

Schools should teach, yes. As for condoms, schools should teach.

19. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.

see #9

20. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.

the primary cause of violent crime in the inner city are these insane drug laws we have and the racist way they are being applied.

21. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation.

If they are saying it representing a public school, yes. If they are saying it as an individual to another individual, no. Was it "free" speech or was it state-supported" speech. Outside of a constitution argument, it's rude and insensitive, as would someone saying "Satan claims you" or "Allah smiles on you" or "Zues sees you up on Mt. Olympus"...etc. Now, if an individual came up to me and said that as an individual, it would be just fine, but at the very least, if a representative said any of those things as a representative of a public school, it would be wrong in that it would simply be rude and insensitive, regardless of the legal requirements.

22. No culture is morally superior to any other.

see #13 and use the word "different" instead.

Fri, 07/04/2003 - 9:55 AM Permalink
crabgrass

now...let's see someone else do it.

Fri, 07/04/2003 - 10:01 AM Permalink
Allan Lang

now...let's see someone else do it.

Great! now Springfield is going to be overwhelmed with garbage.

Fri, 07/04/2003 - 3:54 PM Permalink
crabgrass

that wasn't one of the questions

Sat, 07/05/2003 - 4:31 AM Permalink
Allan Lang

1. to 22: answers vary between slightly no to absolutely no.

(Hope this restores my position, after I got a lower score on the liberation purity test than mikey - still tring to work out how that happened)

Sat, 07/05/2003 - 7:50 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

I was going to take it and see if I could be more wacked out than crabs. Nope, couldn't be.

Sun, 07/06/2003 - 6:13 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I was going to take it

put up or shut up

Sun, 07/06/2003 - 6:18 PM Permalink
Torpedo-8

You're still waiting here for me to show up. What did I tell you before?

Sun, 07/06/2003 - 9:28 PM Permalink
crabgrass

You're still waiting here for me to show up. What did I tell you before?

most recently?

I believe it was...

I was going to take it

earlier today

Sun, 07/06/2003 - 9:30 PM Permalink
Torpedo-8

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Get out and do something.

Sun, 07/06/2003 - 10:59 PM Permalink
THX 1138



Gun law's author hit right on target

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/6231634.htm

"I think he's consistent with the regard we have for all civil liberties," Magee added. "I sometimes think that people who are blindly consistent about Second Amendment rights typically don't support other constitutional rights. They want rights for themselves. But Joe doesn't buy into that."

She even suspects he would be considered a Democrat anywhere but Minnesota

Mon, 07/07/2003 - 5:50 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Wed, 07/09/2003 - 7:51 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Wed, 07/09/2003 - 7:56 AM Permalink
ares

that's a pretty gutsy place to go shooting, considering the police station is a few blocks away.

Wed, 07/09/2003 - 8:15 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 7:09 AM Permalink
crabgrass

It just goes to show you that a No Guns Allowed sign is just a target.

so, you are saying that bars without the signs never get held up?

that's some great reasoning there

solved the crime problem in one fell swoop

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 8:36 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

It's probably not a good idea for a bar to put up a sign like that. They're open late at night and collect a lot of cash.

As for loaded patrons with loaded weapons, they'll have to take their chances from now on.

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 8:46 AM Permalink
THX 1138



No Guns Allowed sign is just a target.

The signs might as well say "Please rob us, we're unarmed".

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 8:58 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 12:05 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

I don't wish robbery on anyone.

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 12:48 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 1:11 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 1:18 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Yeah, Digger, I'm a communist. Is that the first charge you level on people who don't agree with you, or do you do it when you run out of the rest of your rhetorical ammunition?

If it's the latter, it looks like you run out pretty fast.

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 1:23 PM Permalink
crabgrass

That would make rick and crab happy

what would make me happy?

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 2:52 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Fri, 07/11/2003 - 6:08 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Not even if it promotes your political agenda, how odd for a leftist."

It seems to me that people on the right use robbery and mayhem to promote a political agenda at every opportunity.

Sat, 07/12/2003 - 6:57 AM Permalink
Muskwa

Broad brush, Rick?

Sat, 07/12/2003 - 7:08 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

OK, we'll just say the ones on this thread.

Sat, 07/12/2003 - 7:40 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Sat, 07/12/2003 - 9:05 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Sun, 07/13/2003 - 6:24 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

and that's exactly what you have admitted to before while on the Kitty Hawk fold..."trip'in"..Oh Yeah!!!!

Sun, 07/13/2003 - 8:13 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Mon, 07/14/2003 - 7:22 AM Permalink
medallionis venator

Stupidity....

Guns and stupid people dont mix very well. Heres proof

Wed, 07/23/2003 - 7:11 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Thu, 09/04/2003 - 6:13 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Speakin of guns....

I just saw Young Guns and part 2, the other day.... those movies rock.

Mon, 09/08/2003 - 1:11 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Speaking of movies.... Did anyone see the Bowling For Columbine DVD? Powerful shit!

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 2:06 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Powerful shit!

Well you're half right.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 2:35 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Yeah, I always wondered what was on the cutting room floor. I'm sure it's a totally different story.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 4:01 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Yeah, I always wondered what was on the cutting room floor.

The facts seem to have been the only thing left on the cutting room floor.

Is it entertainment ? Sure I suppose to some. Is it a documentary ? Sure if you think Spinal Tap was.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 4:08 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Is it a documentary ? Sure if you think Spinal Tap was.

So you're saying that Michael Moore has a '7' shooter?

;-)

Either way, the 6 year old getting shot and killed was a sad story regardless of how or why it happened.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 7:07 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Thanks THX. I went back to try and find posts concerning the movie before posting but I guess I didn't go back far enough. Did ya notice your post number? How ironic.

I wonder if the movie got an award for editing?

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 7:11 PM Permalink
THX 1138



I liked "Roger & Me", and think he could have made a somewhat valid documentary with "Bowling".

Too bad he was blinded by his personal feelings on he matter.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 7:27 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

I hearda guy doing movie reviews, from a bunch of Indy films in the Toronto festival, on 93X thismorning.... he was talkin about "Elephant"?? I think that was the name... it sounded like it was pretty cool.

Tue, 09/09/2003 - 8:44 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 2:21 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Last time I checked JT, ALL documentaries were seen through the eyes of their producer's "Rose Colored Glasses".

There's a difference between seeing through someone elses eyes, and outright making up shit to further your agenda.

That's why I said I thought "Roger and Me" was good. It wasn't just a bunch of made up shit pieced together like "Bowling for Columbine" is.

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 5:57 AM Permalink
Clue Master

That's why I said I thought "Roger and Me" was good.

Why do I feel like I'm the 'Rabbit Lady' of "No Time For Cold Feet"?


Somebody shoot me

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 8:15 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 1:07 PM Permalink
Clue Master

OOooooo- it hoits, it hoits, oooooo- it hoits!!

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 3:36 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Wed, 09/17/2003 - 8:15 PM Permalink