learn how liberals misuse the system to enforce law that has never been approved by THE PEOPLE!
you mean like obstructing the law when it is trying to uncover the crimes of a President? yes...I know that Bork did that, we all do...it's a historical fact.
look at the people you look up to...a bunch of criminals
SEPTEMBER 12--North Carolina cops are searching for a guy who successfully passed a $200 bill bearing George W. Bush's portrait and a drawing of the White House complete with lawn signs reading "We like ice cream" and "USA deserves a tax cut." The phony Bush bill--a copy of which you'll find below--was presented to a cashier at a Food Lion in Roanoke Rapids on September 6 by an unidentified male who was seeking to pay for $150 in groceries. Remarkably, the cashier accepted the counterfeit note and gave the man $50 change. In a separate incident involving a different perp, Roanoke Rapids cops Tuesday arrested Michael Harris, 24, for attempting last month to pass an identical $200 Bush bill at a convenience store.
How do you figure? Your own article ends with "continued strongbacking for Bush's decision to go to war and public support for staying there to help stabilize and rebuild that nation." This very poll has a 70% approval rating on the US campaign against terrorism. 86% believe that the Bush plan will bring stability and end the violence in Iraq. Nearly 6 out of 10 would vote for him over any of the Dem prospects.
WASHINGTON -- The Democratic leaders in Congress have asked President Bush to throw his support behind efforts to cut taxes for U.S. manufacturers.
"The American manufacturing sector is in crisis," Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California wrote the president.
"We believe that policies focused on immediate creation of manufacturing jobs in the United States must be our top priority," their letter said.
Wait a minute. Democrats and a business tax cut? Daschle-Pelosi and a tax cut?
After all of the decades of claims of mean-spirited, Rebublican rich businessmen, good-ol-boy, tax breaks the Democrats are now proposing the same thing? Well-well-well.
Careful GW. It's like your being sucked into a box canyon and ya know the ambush is coming.
crab: you mean like obstructing the law when it is trying to uncover the crimes of a President? yes...I know that Bork did that, we all do...it's a historical fact.
Bork just did his job. there was no obstruction of justice on his part.
Bork just did his job. there was no obstruction of justice on his part.
he fired the special investigator to prevent him from getting Nixon's tapes.
this is a guy you want in the supreme court...a guy who just follows presidential orders even if it mean blocking the discovery of crimes in high places?
The Bridge-Tunnel project is a four-lane 20-mile-long vehicular toll crossing of the lower Chesapeake Bay. At two points cars go under the bay (so that large ships can travel above). The gap you see in the top of the pic above is one of the tunnels. It seems longer when you are in it.
Been across that one a few times. It is an expensive trip though. $10 for a one-way cross. There is a rest stop half way where you can stop, scope out the view, and eat at the resturant.
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Presidential hopeful John Kerry on Monday criticized his Democratic rivals who favor repealing President Bush's tax cuts -- and this time, he named names.
The Massachusetts senator has assailed primary foes such as Howard Dean and Dick Gephardt for favoring a rollback of Bush's tax cuts from 2001 and this year, but as recently as Friday in South Carolina, Kerry declined to single them out.
That wasn't the case in Iowa Monday, and it reflected a weeklong concerted effort by the Democratic candidates to challenge front-runner Dean on issues from the Middle East to Medicare, from race to Social Security.
"Unfortunately some in my party, including Howard Dean, want to repeal the tax cuts Democrats gave middle class families," Kerry said."This would mean that a family of four -- with two parents working hard on the job and at home -- would have to pay about $2,000 more a year in taxes."
Dean, the former Vermont governor, argues that a repeal of the tax cuts is necessary to pay for universal health care, homeland security and job creation, particularly in a time of increasing budget deficits.
During a speech on corporate responsibility in which he criticized President Bush, Kerry said that in the event of a wholesale repeal of the tax cuts, "Democrats will be no better than George W. Bush if we also turn our backs on the middle class."
Kerry has called for repealing that portion of the tax cut that benefits those making more than $200,000 a year, leaving in place the child care tax credit and the elimination of the marriage penalty.
Gephardt, the Missouri congressman and former House Minority leader, also favors repeal of Bush's tax cuts to finance health care coverage.
he fired the special investigator to prevent him from getting Nixon's tapes.
this is a guy you want in the supreme court...a guy who just follows presidential orders even if it mean blocking the discovery of crimes in high places?
The special prosecutor was subject to dismissal. That is not an obstruction of justice because it was legal to do so. Unlike Bill Clinton that instructed people to lie under oath and hide evidence. If you were honest you would see the difference. But you are not honest you are a despicable liar.
RALEIGH, N.C. -- A former North Carolina agriculture commissioner pleaded not guilty Monday to state charges of perjury and obstruction of justice.
Meg Scott Phipps is accused of lying to the Board of Elections to try to cover up illegal contributions to her 2000 election campaign and of encouraging an aide to lie. Her trial is scheduled for next month.
Phipps, the daughter and granddaughter of North Carolina governors, also faces 20 federal charges, including fraud, extortion, bribery and witness tampering. She has not yet entered a plea to those charges.
Prosecutors allege she and campaign aides extorted money from carnival companies interested in getting contracts at the N.C. State Fair.
The state charges against Phipps could lead to a prison term ranging from 2 1/2 years to seven years. But with no prior record and under sentencing rules, she probably would not serve time.
Many of the federal charges carry up to 20 years in prison each.
but that was the result....he fired the guy who was trying to get evidence of a crime...if that isn't obstructing justice, what is?
Why don't you go to FindLaw and look it up? But in any event the result wasn't the same because obstructing justice is a crime and as you admit Bork did not commit a crime.
The 9th Circuit panel erroneously overextended the U.S. Supreme Court's application of the equal protection doctrine to disparities of voting methods. In Florida, the Supreme Court's concern was different methods of counting identically marked ballots already cast.
in order to get justice when a crime has been committed, one needs proof. If the person who was getting the proof is prevented from doing so, he was obstructed. If he gets stuck in a traffic jam and can't get there in time to get it, he was obstructed.
I'm not talking about the legal sense, I'm talking about what happened. The special prosecutor who was trying to get proof that Nixon broke the law was fired...it obstructed him from getting that proof.
I mean...I said "not legally, no".
what part of that didn't you get?
there are plenty of "legal" ways to obstruct someone.
The fact is, Bork was employed to prevent a prosecutor from getting incriminating information about Nixon.
Legal or not...that's what happened.
damn bodine...you so mindlessly follow the rules that you fail to see what things actually are sometimes. Here's a clue....The Law is NOT always what is RIGHT
wondering if you would have defended Reno if she had fired Ken Starr.
If she was following what she thought was legal orders from a superior, sure. Then I would have looked at why the superior gave those orders. Was what that superior had asked for legal or not? If not, then I would hold the superior responsible for the actions.
According to the California ACLU, punch-card machines, still used in six counties, have an error rate of 2.5 percent, meaning as many as 40,000 votes could be invalidated.
But other state voting methods that the ACLU finds acceptable are also prone to error, researchers point out. Optical scanners, for example, have an error rate of 2.3 percent, and could invalidate as many as 36,000 votes in the counties where they are used.
Computer touch screens with an error rate of 3 percent could leave 48,000 votes uncounted, and 'Datavote,' a different type of punch-card system used in 20 counties, has an error rate of more than 3 percent — putting as many as 51,200 votes at risk
What's sad is, people believe the bullshit they're being spoonfed.
I've heard people saying "Every vote should count and those machines are flawed". The same people are saying "The voters in California made their decision when they elected Gray Davis, and he should remain Governor".
They just don't know what the hell to say when I throw them the curveball of "Why were those machines fine to elect Gray Davis"?
no doubt it would be easier for him to give all documents to Congress to avoid the usually frivolous charges of hiding things. But then politicians will find something contained in the documents to complain about, they always do. But in order to get candid advice it is sometimes necessary not to disclose what has been said. when such info is disclosed don't you think that it may have a chilling effect on future advice?
Of course Bush's actions are going to be under scrutiny. He's the leader of probably the greatest power in the world. He's under scrutiny from people within the country and outside of the country. I can see if its a plan about getting Saddam or Osama, but this is about energy. Why the need to be secretive about energy? It does raise some red flags. I'm sure if someone like Clinton was doing this, you would be all over him for it.
Bush is doing a lot better than Clinton in the morality part, but if he has done nothing wrong with this energy thing, why the need to hide things? If you have done nothing wrong, why do you need to cover it up?
you actually think I'm trying?
No I think you are trying to find a way to get out the blue haze your mind is in! Good luck.
watch and learn, crabs and any other liberals: http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=3847&schedID=210
learn what?
how fire a special prosecutor in order to try to conceal the crimes of a President?
no thanks.
no, learn how liberals misuse the system to enforce law that has never been approved by THE PEOPLE!
you mean like obstructing the law when it is trying to uncover the crimes of a President? yes...I know that Bork did that, we all do...it's a historical fact.
look at the people you look up to...a bunch of criminals
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From the Smoking Gun
SEPTEMBER 12--North Carolina cops are searching for a guy who successfully passed a $200 bill bearing George W. Bush's portrait and a drawing of the White House complete with lawn signs reading "We like ice cream" and "USA deserves a tax cut." The phony Bush bill--a copy of which you'll find below--was presented to a cashier at a Food Lion in Roanoke Rapids on September 6 by an unidentified male who was seeking to pay for $150 in groceries. Remarkably, the cashier accepted the counterfeit note and gave the man $50 change. In a separate incident involving a different perp, Roanoke Rapids cops Tuesday arrested Michael Harris, 24, for attempting last month to pass an identical $200 Bush bill at a convenience store.
Ha!!!... I bet that cashier was probably laid off, real quick.
And Washington Post STAFF WRITERS know the pulse of the Nation. Who did they poll? Six, fellow, liberal writers?
The tide IS turning, after all.
How do you figure? Your own article ends with "continued strongbacking for Bush's decision to go to war and public support for staying there to help stabilize and rebuild that nation." This very poll has a 70% approval rating on the US campaign against terrorism. 86% believe that the Bush plan will bring stability and end the violence in Iraq. Nearly 6 out of 10 would vote for him over any of the Dem prospects.
With all the tirades about taxcuts from Dems, they are now asking for support from the president for efforts to cut taxes for U.S..... manufacturers.
Democrats Ask Bush to Back New Tax Cuts
By MARY DALRYMPLE
AP Tax Writer
September 14, 2003, 9:29 AM EDT
WASHINGTON -- The Democratic leaders in Congress have asked President Bush to throw his support behind efforts to cut taxes for U.S. manufacturers.
"The American manufacturing sector is in crisis," Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California wrote the president.
"We believe that policies focused on immediate creation of manufacturing jobs in the United States must be our top priority," their letter said.
Corporate taxes are a sham -- who do you think really pays them? There should be NO corporate taxes -- and NO corporate welfare of any kind.
Wait a minute. Democrats and a business tax cut? Daschle-Pelosi and a tax cut?
After all of the decades of claims of mean-spirited, Rebublican rich businessmen, good-ol-boy, tax breaks the Democrats are now proposing the same thing? Well-well-well.
Careful GW. It's like your being sucked into a box canyon and ya know the ambush is coming.
Either an ambush or the mind control thingy is up and working.
crab: you mean like obstructing the law when it is trying to uncover the crimes of a President? yes...I know that Bork did that, we all do...it's a historical fact.
Bork just did his job. there was no obstruction of justice on his part.
But the voters almost always vote their POCKETBOOK.
Is that why Republicans picked up seats in Congress last November? Face it, fold, it is just wishful thinking on your part.
he fired the special investigator to prevent him from getting Nixon's tapes.
this is a guy you want in the supreme court...a guy who just follows presidential orders even if it mean blocking the discovery of crimes in high places?
Hurricane Isabel, the storm, is heading towards Chesapeake Bay (and the Outer Banks, NC).
I don't know if anyone has been on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel?
Here's the site:
http://www.cbbt.com/
The Bridge-Tunnel project is a four-lane 20-mile-long vehicular toll crossing of the lower Chesapeake Bay. At two points cars go under the bay (so that large ships can travel above). The gap you see in the top of the pic above is one of the tunnels. It seems longer when you are in it.
Been across that one a few times. It is an expensive trip though. $10 for a one-way cross. There is a rest stop half way where you can stop, scope out the view, and eat at the resturant.
Wow! Talk about revisionist history...
Kerry Assails Dean by Name Over Tax Cuts
By MIKE GLOVER
Associated Press Writer
September 15, 2003, 6:22 PM EDT
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Presidential hopeful John Kerry on Monday criticized his Democratic rivals who favor repealing President Bush's tax cuts -- and this time, he named names.
The Massachusetts senator has assailed primary foes such as Howard Dean and Dick Gephardt for favoring a rollback of Bush's tax cuts from 2001 and this year, but as recently as Friday in South Carolina, Kerry declined to single them out.
That wasn't the case in Iowa Monday, and it reflected a weeklong concerted effort by the Democratic candidates to challenge front-runner Dean on issues from the Middle East to Medicare, from race to Social Security.
"Unfortunately some in my party, including Howard Dean, want to repeal the tax cuts Democrats gave middle class families," Kerry said."This would mean that a family of four -- with two parents working hard on the job and at home -- would have to pay about $2,000 more a year in taxes."
Dean, the former Vermont governor, argues that a repeal of the tax cuts is necessary to pay for universal health care, homeland security and job creation, particularly in a time of increasing budget deficits.
During a speech on corporate responsibility in which he criticized President Bush, Kerry said that in the event of a wholesale repeal of the tax cuts, "Democrats will be no better than George W. Bush if we also turn our backs on the middle class."
Kerry has called for repealing that portion of the tax cut that benefits those making more than $200,000 a year, leaving in place the child care tax credit and the elimination of the marriage penalty.
Gephardt, the Missouri congressman and former House Minority leader, also favors repeal of Bush's tax cuts to finance health care coverage.
I think it was around 10 when I went across if memory serves.
The income tax was supposed to be temporary too, just like all the "temporary" sales tax increases too. As you say, famuous last words.
he fired the special investigator to prevent him from getting Nixon's tapes.
this is a guy you want in the supreme court...a guy who just follows presidential orders even if it mean blocking the discovery of crimes in high places?
The special prosecutor was subject to dismissal. That is not an obstruction of justice because it was legal to do so. Unlike Bill Clinton that instructed people to lie under oath and hide evidence. If you were honest you would see the difference. But you are not honest you are a despicable liar.
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Another crooked Democrat on trial.
N.C. Ex-Official on Trial for Perjury
By Associated Press
September 15, 2003, 11:38 PM EDT
RALEIGH, N.C. -- A former North Carolina agriculture commissioner pleaded not guilty Monday to state charges of perjury and obstruction of justice.
Meg Scott Phipps is accused of lying to the Board of Elections to try to cover up illegal contributions to her 2000 election campaign and of encouraging an aide to lie. Her trial is scheduled for next month.
Phipps, the daughter and granddaughter of North Carolina governors, also faces 20 federal charges, including fraud, extortion, bribery and witness tampering. She has not yet entered a plea to those charges.
Prosecutors allege she and campaign aides extorted money from carnival companies interested in getting contracts at the N.C. State Fair.
The state charges against Phipps could lead to a prison term ranging from 2 1/2 years to seven years. But with no prior record and under sentencing rules, she probably would not serve time.
Many of the federal charges carry up to 20 years in prison each.
if you were honest, you would admit that Bork was being Nixon's bagman when Tricky Dick was getting caught.
if you were honest, you would see that this has nothing to do with Clinton.
if you were honest, you would admit that Bork was being Nixon's bagman when Tricky Dick was getting caught.
The fact remains Bork did not obstruct justice.
not legally, no
but that was the result....he fired the guy who was trying to get evidence of a crime...if that isn't obstructing justice, what is?
wondering if you would have defended Reno if she had fired Ken Starr.
but that was the result....he fired the guy who was trying to get evidence of a crime...if that isn't obstructing justice, what is?
Why don't you go to FindLaw and look it up? But in any event the result wasn't the same because obstructing justice is a crime and as you admit Bork did not commit a crime.
The 9th Circuit panel erroneously overextended the U.S. Supreme Court's application of the equal protection doctrine to disparities of voting methods. In Florida, the Supreme Court's concern was different methods of counting identically marked ballots already cast.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/georgewill/gw20030917.shtml
crabgrass 9/17/03 10:52am
Depends on the meaning of the word is. Is it like lying under oath ? :) (DISCLAIMER) DON"T WANT TO START A WILLY DEBATE
< BEEN THERE DONE THAT)
in order to get justice when a crime has been committed, one needs proof. If the person who was getting the proof is prevented from doing so, he was obstructed. If he gets stuck in a traffic jam and can't get there in time to get it, he was obstructed.
I'm not talking about the legal sense, I'm talking about what happened. The special prosecutor who was trying to get proof that Nixon broke the law was fired...it obstructed him from getting that proof.
I mean...I said "not legally, no".
what part of that didn't you get?
there are plenty of "legal" ways to obstruct someone.
The fact is, Bork was employed to prevent a prosecutor from getting incriminating information about Nixon.
Legal or not...that's what happened.
damn bodine...you so mindlessly follow the rules that you fail to see what things actually are sometimes. Here's a clue....The Law is NOT always what is RIGHT
wondering if you would have defended Reno if she had fired Ken Starr.
If she was following what she thought was legal orders from a superior, sure. Then I would have looked at why the superior gave those orders. Was what that superior had asked for legal or not? If not, then I would hold the superior responsible for the actions.
if you have to look through local papers to find a state-level Ag-Commissioner in the Carolinas to pin your loathing of Democrats on??
Nope, just the Associated Press site. The news of crooked Dems shows up there quite often.
According to the California ACLU, punch-card machines, still used in six counties, have an error rate of 2.5 percent, meaning as many as 40,000 votes could be invalidated.
But other state voting methods that the ACLU finds acceptable are also prone to error, researchers point out. Optical scanners, for example, have an error rate of 2.3 percent, and could invalidate as many as 36,000 votes in the counties where they are used.
Computer touch screens with an error rate of 3 percent could leave 48,000 votes uncounted, and 'Datavote,' a different type of punch-card system used in 20 counties, has an error rate of more than 3 percent — putting as many as 51,200 votes at risk
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97630,00.html
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
The Patriot Act: Separating Hysteria from Fact
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20030919.shtml
Most importantly, if the voting machines are so damn bad, why were they good enough when they were used to get Davis elected?
Because Davis is a Democrat.
Bingo!
What's sad is, people believe the bullshit they're being spoonfed.
I've heard people saying "Every vote should count and those machines are flawed". The same people are saying "The voters in California made their decision when they elected Gray Davis, and he should remain Governor".
They just don't know what the hell to say when I throw them the curveball of "Why were those machines fine to elect Gray Davis"?
you mean when they are spoonfed things like this?
not a political one?
come now George....
THOMAS E. WHITE, Bush's Secretary of the Army, had been Vice-Chairman of Enron Energy Service, and held millions in Enron stock.
KARL ROVE, Presidential Advisor, owned as much as $250,000 of Enron stock.
LARRY LINDSAY, Economic Advisor, leapt straight from Enron to his current White House job.
ROBERT B. ZOELLICK, Federal Trade Representative, ditto above.
HARVEY PITTS, SEC Chairman, was handpicked by Kenneth Lay for the position, due to his notorious aversion to governmental regulation of any kind.
DONALD RUMSFELD, Defense Secretary, together with 31 Bush administration officials had a line item for Enron in their stock portfolio.
just business? not political?
yes Virginia, there is bullshit...they are serving it now....would you like a spoon?
And what did those people do to help Enron?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/000/769wnrjo.asp
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,338580,00.html
President Bush on Monday defended his administration's decision to withhold documents from Congress about its closed-door energy task force meetings.
I agree with you. The documents should be released.
not a political one?
Wasn't Clinton President during a majority of the years Enron was getting itself in trouble?
President Bush on Monday defended his administration's decision to withhold documents from Congress about its closed-door energy task force meetings.
I disagree with JT. There is no reason that Congress should get those documents.
Why shouldn't they, Jethro?
What does Dubya have to hide?
no doubt it would be easier for him to give all documents to Congress to avoid the usually frivolous charges of hiding things. But then politicians will find something contained in the documents to complain about, they always do. But in order to get candid advice it is sometimes necessary not to disclose what has been said. when such info is disclosed don't you think that it may have a chilling effect on future advice?
We don't live in a dictatorship.
There's no excuse to hide such conversations unless you're up to no good.
If you're giving the President advice, you best be able to defend such advice in public.
what is the big deal? Everyone of Bush's actions is under hyper scrutiny. Do you think he can get away with something?
I don't know if he's trying to get away with something or not.
Him not wanting to open it up for scrutiny sure makes me suspicious.
Of course Bush's actions are going to be under scrutiny. He's the leader of probably the greatest power in the world. He's under scrutiny from people within the country and outside of the country. I can see if its a plan about getting Saddam or Osama, but this is about energy. Why the need to be secretive about energy? It does raise some red flags. I'm sure if someone like Clinton was doing this, you would be all over him for it.
I'm sure if someone like Clinton was doing this, you would be all over him for it.
If it were someone like Clinton I would have all sorts of things to be criticize him for. It happens when amoral men get power
Bush is doing a lot better than Clinton in the morality part, but if he has done nothing wrong with this energy thing, why the need to hide things? If you have done nothing wrong, why do you need to cover it up?