Gun totin' lily white neighborhood livin, shed building maniac menace to society. Runs message board full of crazies, malcontents and a libetarian communist. File note, likes to bang head on desk, intell says this is some kind of code to the other people on the board, we are unable to determine what the meaning of the head slamming is. Further surveilence needed.
Log update.
Has Glock t-shirt. Reccomend he be moved into threat Alpha category.
Bin Laden has been on CIA's payroll - suggested by no other but MSNBC. To quote them, Bin Laden's operation 'was nurtured by Pakistan’s state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA’s primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow’s occupation'.
The only problem with your assertion is that Bin Laden was a minor player in Afghanistan at the time. During the Soviet war he was essentially a glorified foot soldier. So yes we paid them to fight the Soviets but they weren't writing checks directly to him. Saying we paid him implies directly or intentionally and is a distortion of the truth. Yes we paid the Afghanies to fight the Soviets. We should have.
The funny part about some is that they bemoan how we used to help or encouraged some dictator. Then they whine if we actually do something about him. We helped Stalin in WW2 as well. You go with the current threat because unlike the monday morning quaterbacks you don't have the gift of highinsight. in 1980 there wasn't a person around who wouldn't have said the Russians weren't our biggest threat befcause they were.
There was no money. It was a failed business deal if I recall correctly. They lost money.
Bin Laden has been on CIA's payroll - suggested by no other but MSNBC. To quote them, Bin Laden's operation 'was nurtured by Pakistan’s state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA’s primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow’s occupation'.
You're grasping at straws here Crabby, and so is Michael Moran in that article. Why do you think no one other news source grabbed on to that hogwash?
Anyway, there were thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan "on our payroll" during the Afghan/Russia war.
You make it sound like we knew way back in the early 80's, that he was planning to crash planes into the WTC, yet we continued to support him.
You make it sound like we knew way back in the early 80's, that he was planning to crash planes into the WTC, yet we continued to support him.
all I'm saying is that the bin Laden tribe has been doing business of one sort or another with the Bush tribe since at least that long ago....and they are playing Yojimo with it. I'm also saying that we don't know who all exactly had a role in it. And that when we investigated it, Bush appointed a man who is famous for advising another President to lie about commiting crimes. And that when this report did (headed by another person with shared business finally come out, it appeared to be covering something up.
Bin Laden himself has repeatedly denied that he received any American support. “Personally neither I nor my brothers saw any evidence of American help,” bin Laden told British journalist Robert Fisk (search) in 1993. In 1996, Mr. Fisk interviewed bin Laden again. The arch-terrorist was equally adamant: “We were never, at any time, friends of the Americans. We knew that the Americans supported the Jews in Palestine and that they are our enemies.”
It was billed as a documentary. He won an oscar in the documentary category, not mockumentary. It's riddled with deliberate half truths inuendo's and outright lies. I have no problem if it was marketed as a "mockumentary" or politcal satire piece or even comedy, but it wasn't. In short, Mikey Moore is full of shit :)
Sure. As long as the truth isn't obfuscated to make the joke.
or that they have a viewpoint?
They all do really. Again the point is he downright, mislead, misquoted and altered newsclips, times and dates and staged events to make his point.
Main Entry: 1doc·u·men·ta·ry Pronunciation: "dä-ky&-'men-t&-rE, -'men-trE Function: adjective Date: 1802 1 : being or consisting of documents : contained or certified in writing
<documentary evidence> 2 : of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or art; broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE
Take a look at any number of the links THX provided a few back.
I'm asking you.
I've read them among others and that's why I pointed them out. If you don't like my answer, tough.
Two can play at your game, where's your proof he's not lying ?
you are gonna have to do more than tell the audience to see someone else's documentary.
Tell you what, when you start answering direct questons you'll get the samne. I have neither the time nor the inclination to make sure that questions asked meet your satisfaction. If you want to debate on how I answer, fine let's do so. It's not up to you to decide how I respond.
This is funny ! You need speakers for this to be funny. It's safe for work so don't worry. I laughed pretty good when I heard this.
Here ya' go.
http://w3geek.com/movies/pilots.htm
funny. thanks
And you too, enjoy the rest of your flight L2F
Clue Master 9/18/03 12:08pm
Thanks :) I'd definately fly that airline
Sort of related....
I ordered a catalog online a couple months ago. It was a Glock specialty item sort of thing.
Now I'm getting stuff from these funky ass Soldier of Fortune type companies.
The sons of bitches sold my name!
Now the fricking FBI is gonna have a profile on me just because I wanted a Glock T-Shirt.
How much do ya think they got for your name?
I dunno.
A nickle?
Now the fricking FBI is gonna have a profile on me just because I wanted a Glock T-Shirt.
And this bothers you?
They already had a huge file on JT ;)
Gun totin' lily white neighborhood livin, shed building maniac menace to society. Runs message board full of crazies, malcontents and a libetarian communist. File note, likes to bang head on desk, intell says this is some kind of code to the other people on the board, we are unable to determine what the meaning of the head slamming is. Further surveilence needed.
Log update.
Has Glock t-shirt. Reccomend he be moved into threat Alpha category.
Of course it bothers me.
Luv2Fly 9/19/03 8:31am
That's a keeper!
welcome to life during wartime....and remember, it's ALWAYS wartime from now on.
I know, Crabby.
We should fight the terrorists with love & hugs and cute fuzzy bunnies.
all I can say is that it would not bother me if the FBI had a file on me. for all I know they do.
Here they come again
this is the best you can come up with?
how about not creating them in the first place?
how many terrorists in your neighborhood?
why is that?
Yeah, we created the terrorists.
What the f**k?
That's just nuts!
yes...it's nuts what our CIA does around the world.
you think these people are pissed off for no reason?
Nice.
Always blame someone else for your own actions.
I see "Freethinkers" don't believe in personal responsibility.
You know, Bin Laden had no problems with the US or the CIA when they were on his side against Russia in Afghanistan.
my actions?
so, he went from being on our side to our enemy for no fucking reason at all?
things have reasons you know.
No JT, blame everyone else for everything.
we were paying him
we were paying him
You're kidding, right? Bin Laden is filthy rich. Always has been.
Besides, he was just a soldier during the Afghan/Russian war.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", perhaps?
the Bin Laden / Bush connections are not hard to find. Do a little research.
next thing you will try to tell me that Bush and his administration had noting to do with Enron either.
the Bin Laden / Bush connections are not hard to find. Do a little research.
How about you back up your claims?
next thing you will try to tell me that Bush and his administration had noting to do with Enron either.
Totally separate issue.
how about you do a little research.
Come on Crabby, no reputable news source is making such claims as you are.
The only connection is a former business partner.
Is that your smoking gun?
Pfffft!
follow the money
crabgrass 9/21/03 8:19pm
The only problem with your assertion is that Bin Laden was a minor player in Afghanistan at the time. During the Soviet war he was essentially a glorified foot soldier. So yes we paid them to fight the Soviets but they weren't writing checks directly to him. Saying we paid him implies directly or intentionally and is a distortion of the truth. Yes we paid the Afghanies to fight the Soviets. We should have.
The funny part about some is that they bemoan how we used to help or encouraged some dictator. Then they whine if we actually do something about him. We helped Stalin in WW2 as well. You go with the current threat because unlike the monday morning quaterbacks you don't have the gift of highinsight. in 1980 there wasn't a person around who wouldn't have said the Russians weren't our biggest threat befcause they were.
follow the money
There was no money. It was a failed business deal if I recall correctly. They lost money.
Bin Laden has been on CIA's payroll - suggested by no other but MSNBC. To quote them, Bin Laden's operation 'was nurtured by Pakistan’s state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA’s primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow’s occupation'.
You're grasping at straws here Crabby, and so is Michael Moran in that article. Why do you think no one other news source grabbed on to that hogwash?
Anyway, there were thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan "on our payroll" during the Afghan/Russia war.
You make it sound like we knew way back in the early 80's, that he was planning to crash planes into the WTC, yet we continued to support him.
Ppfffft!
all I'm saying is that the bin Laden tribe has been doing business of one sort or another with the Bush tribe since at least that long ago....and they are playing Yojimo with it. I'm also saying that we don't know who all exactly had a role in it. And that when we investigated it, Bush appointed a man who is famous for advising another President to lie about commiting crimes. And that when this report did (headed by another person with shared business finally come out, it appeared to be covering something up.
From a circulating E-mail:
Difference between Liberals, Conservatives, and Southerners
Question:
You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children.
Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges..
You are carrying a .45, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?
Liberal Answer:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!
Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think?
What about the kids?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
What does the law say about this situation?
Does the gun have an appropriate safety built into it?
Why am I carrying a loaded gun, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.
Conservative Answer:
BANG!
Southerner's Answer :
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click... (sounds of reloading).
Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids think?"
Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it, too."
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy!
Were those the Winchester Silver Tips?"
I've provided links to the stories.
You can figure out the rest.
uh huh.
JT wrote to fold : I've provided links to the stories.
You can figure out the rest.
Don't you think you might be expecting too much from fold?
OH...ok then.
Gee, thanks.
Well gee, I have already provided the info.
THX 1138 6/3/03 5:50am
THX 1138 9/9/03 7:07pm
TWICE
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel040403.asp
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
http://home.sprynet.com/~owl1/bowling.htm
http://www.galun.com/misc/seasonal/2002/12/17-Moore.html
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2002/10/24/085212.php
http://www.popcornmonsters.com/UserMovieReview/621/
Make that three times.
Dispelling the CIA-Bin Laden Myth
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html
Bin Laden himself has repeatedly denied that he received any American support. “Personally neither I nor my brothers saw any evidence of American help,” bin Laden told British journalist Robert Fisk (search) in 1993. In 1996, Mr. Fisk interviewed bin Laden again. The arch-terrorist was equally adamant: “We were never, at any time, friends of the Americans. We knew that the Americans supported the Jews in Palestine and that they are our enemies.”
I'll bet that James Bath would tell you the same thing.
In that case, why didn't the scumbag decline accepting the Oscar?
'Bill - Fold' 9/25/03 5:49am
Bill,
It was billed as a documentary. He won an oscar in the documentary category, not mockumentary. It's riddled with deliberate half truths inuendo's and outright lies. I have no problem if it was marketed as a "mockumentary" or politcal satire piece or even comedy, but it wasn't. In short, Mikey Moore is full of shit :)
you don't think documentaries can be comedies?
or that they have a viewpoint?
You mean lies! Lies! Lies!
crabgrass 9/25/03 8:08pm
Sure. As long as the truth isn't obfuscated to make the joke.
They all do really. Again the point is he downright, mislead, misquoted and altered newsclips, times and dates and staged events to make his point.
Unfortunatly Mikey Moore forgot to look that up.
like how exactly?
make a documentary about it.
crabgrass 9/26/03 8:06am
Take a look at any number of the links THX provided a few back.
Well if I use Mikey Moore's standards, no problem.
I'm asking you.
you are gonna have to do more than tell the audience to see someone else's documentary.
Take a look at any number of the links THX provided a few back.
I've read them among others and that's why I pointed them out. If you don't like my answer, tough.
Two can play at your game, where's your proof he's not lying ?
Tell you what, when you start answering direct questons you'll get the samne. I have neither the time nor the inclination to make sure that questions asked meet your satisfaction. If you want to debate on how I answer, fine let's do so. It's not up to you to decide how I respond.