And, to answer your question, the theory is that the people who survived the flood were displaced and so they travelled away from the region and took the flood story with them.
There is a common flood story, but from what I have read I think that the flood occured to all cultures globally, instead of happening in one area and being transmitted. Which is not to say that I don't think there was communication between cultures - to the contrary, I think it happened much more than we know at present - but it happened both pre- and post-cataclysmic flood.
I scored 17, so I am apparantly older than dirt. Who knew?
History Exam...
Everyone over 40 should have a pretty easy time at this exam. If you are under 40 you can claim a handicap.
This is a History Exam for those who don't mind seeing how much they really remember about what went on in their life. Get paper and pencil and number from 1 to 20. Write the letter of each answer and score at the end. Then, best of all, before you pass this test on, put your score in the subject line!
1. In the 1940s, where were automobile headlight dimmer switches located? a. On the floor shift knob b. On the floor board, to the left of the clutch c. Next to the horn
2. The bottle top of a Royal Crown Cola bottle had holes in it. For what was it used? a. Capture lightning bugs b. To sprinkle clothes before ironing c. Large salt shaker
3. Why was having milk delivered a problem in northern winters? a. Cows got cold and wouldn't produce milk b. Ice on highways forced delivery by dog sled c. Milkmen left deliveries outside of front doors and milk would freeze, expanding and pushing up the cardboard bottle top.
4. What was the popular chewing gum named for a game of chance? a. Blackjack b. Gin c. Craps!
5. What method did women use to look as if they were wearing stockings when none were available due to rationing during W.W.II? a. Suntan b. Leg painting c. Wearing slacks
6. What postwar car turned automotive design on its ear when you couldn't tell whether it was coming or going? a. Studebaker b. Nash Metro c. Tucker
7. Which was a popular candy when you were a kid? a. Strips of dried peanut butter b. Chocolate licorice bars c. Wax coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water inside
8. How was Butch wax used? a. To stiffen a flat-top haircut so it stood up b. To make floors shiny and prevent scuffing c. On the wheels of roller skates to prevent rust
9. Before inline skates, how did you keep your roller skates attached to your shoes? a. With clamps, tightened by a skate key b. Woven straps that crossed the foot c. Long pieces of twine
10. As a kid, what was considered the best way to reach a decision? a. Consider all the facts b. Ask Mom c. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo
11. What was the most dreaded disease in the 1940's? a. Smallpox b. AIDS c. Polio
12. "I'll be down to get you in a ________, Honey" a. SUV b. Taxi c. Streetcar
13. What was the name of Caroline Kennedy's pet pony? a. Old Blue b. Paint c. Macaroni
14. What was a Duck-and-Cover Drill? a. Part of the game of hide and seek b. What you did when your Mom called you in to do chores c. Hiding under your desk, and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill.
15. What was the name of the Indian Princess on the Howdy Doody show? a. Princess Summerfallwinterspring b. Princess Sacajewea c. Princess Moonshadow
16. What did all the really savvy students do when mimeographed tests were handed out in school? a. Immediately sniffed the purple ink, as this was believed to get you high b. Made paper airplanes to see who could sail theirs out the window c. Wrote another pupil's name on the top, to avoid their failure
17. Why did your Mom shop in stores that gave Green Stamps with purchases? a. To keep you out of mischief by licking the backs, which tasted like bubble gum b. They could be put in special books and redeemed for various household items c. They were given to the kids to be used as stick-on tattoos
18. Praise the Lord, and pass the _________? a. Meatballs b. Dames c. Ammunition
19. What was the name of the singing group that made the song "Cabdriver" a hit? a. The Ink Spots b. The Supremes c. The Esquires
20. Who left his heart in San Francisco? a. Tony Bennett b. Xavier Cugat c. George Gershwin
1. b) On the floor, to the left of the clutch. Hand controls, popular in Europe, took till the late '60s to catch on.
2. b) To sprinkle clothes before ironing. Who had a steam iron?
3. c) Cold weather caused the milk to freeze and expand, popping the bottle top.
4. a) Blackjack Gum.
5. b) Special makeup was applied, followed by drawing a seam down the back of the leg with eyebrow pencil.
6. a) 1946 Studebaker.
7. c) Wax coke bottles containing super-sweet colored water.
8. a) Wax for your flat top (butch) haircut.
9. a) With clamps, tightened by a skate key, which you wore on a shoestring around your neck.
10. c) Eeny-meeny-miney-mo.
11. c) Polio. In beginning of August, swimming pools were closed, movies and other public gathering places were closed to try to prevent spread of the disease.
12.. b) Taxi. Better be ready by half-past eight!
13. c) Macaroni.
14. c) Hiding under your desk, and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill.
15. a) Princess Summerfallwinterspring. She was another puppet.
16. a) Immediately sniffed the purple ink to get a high.
17. b) Put in a special stamp book, they could be traded for household items at the Green Stamp store.
18. c) Ammunition, and we'll all be free.
19. a) The widely famous 50's group: The Inkspots.
20. a) Tony Bennett, and he sounds just as good today.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SCORING
17- 20 correct: You are older than dirt, and obviously gifted with mental abilities. Now if you could only find your glasses. Definitely someone who should share their wisdom!
12 -16 correct: Not quite dirt yet, but your mind is getting keen.
0 -11 correct: You are not old enough to share the wisdom of your experiences.
Send this to your friends with your score in the subject line!
Frosti have you heard of the Urban Challenge? This is the link for the 2003 one in the TwinCities.They don't have one scheduled yet for 2004, but you may enjoy it.
P and his friend did the one in DC in 2002 and had a blast. It sounds similiar to the medallion hunt but it's all in one day. All in a coupla hours actually.
If you click on past races they'll see the types of quesitions they asked.
I've heard about it. But from what I remember there was a fairly hefty entrance fee. Plus, I dunno if I've got the energy to do another hunt full time.
Sounds pretty generic to me, dude - Clueless Joe - Shoeless Joe - baseball diamond? prattle - prattle on like a child - kiddie recreation equipment bark - duh, dog - animal exercise area Doesn't sound like it eliminates too much.
amie - whatcha' trying to do, kill him!? Hee. He gets *really* seriously into this one already, loses lots of sleep and everything.
I haven't the foggiest what this clue is talking about, for the record. Archie and Jughead - wasn't the diner they used to hang out at called Pop's? The only thing Green that comes to mind is the MGM hotel - in Las Vegas. Heh. Emerald Isle, what's that from? Ireland, right?
Sparky, if you were paying attention you would know that Archie Comics had a treasure hunt themed comic in December.
Comic book's art imitates St. Paul life in treasure-hunt plot BY RICHARD CHIN Pioneer Press
The town of Riverdale is gripped by treasure-hunt fever when the local newspaper sponsors a midwinter contest with thousands of dollars as a prize.
Irrepressible teenager Archie Andrews joins the search, along with his buddies Jughead, Betty and Veronica.
Even the high school principal, Mr. Weatherbee, takes a crack at finding the treasure by trying to solve cryptic rhyming clues published in the newspaper and joining hundreds of other searchers armed with rakes, shovels and flashlights and scouring a local park.
That scenario — from the Archie & Friends No. 78 comic book on the newsstands this month — probably sounds vaguely familiar, and with good reason.
Comic-book writer George Gladir said he got the plot idea after reading about the Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt, held each winter, in a front-page Los Angeles Times feature story published in January.
And while I don't think that sheds any light on anything, it at least explains the Jughead reference. I think the Emerald Isle reference is to something that you can see from the hiding spot.
4. East Side, West Side, take your honey for a ride To a stony and sandy place Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball To the swift belongs the race
Current fav: still Battle Creek. also runners: Mears Phalen Highland
The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
Bible -- Ecclesiastes 9:11
This would tend to lend a little credence to your Battle park theme... or not.
OK, here's my thoughts: 1. Say it ain't so, Clueless Joe, And all who prattle and bark. Stop yer clue-bashin', if treasure's your passion, Go you look in an area park.
If you anagram "prattle and bark" you get "Battle darn park" 2. Jughead has spoken, look for the token We'll make it worth your while Like Archie, you seek an object this week As green as the Emerald Isle
There's a shamrock corner near Battle Creek. Emerald Island==Irish==Shamrock 3. "Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there." A quite clever device, but beware false advice. Prank? Perhaps. All is fair.
all is fair in love & war==battle 4. East Side, West Side, take your honey for a ride To a stony and sandy place Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball To the swift belongs the race
stony & sandy==sandstone cliffs in the lower part of Battle Creek also "he race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. Bible -- Ecclesiastes 9:11"
2:20 until clue #5. Supposed to be -20 actual temp tonight, not even factoring in wind chill.
5. Go to the place, it's no disgrace, Where the girls shall be happy to dance Don't look in the rough, but if you want the stuff You may have to get dirt on your pants
Bah. I got nothin. Except, this will be in a park adjacent to a golf course (Don't look "in the rough"). And, it will most likely be taped underneath something, like a picnic table. Forcing one to get down on all fours to see it, hence "getting your pants dirty."
What do you think about the dancing girls? Battle Creek has two streets running into it named after girls, Grace and Darlene. But nothing about dancing. I think that dance is a diversion of some sort, I've been looking at synonyms for dance trying to get ideas.
Cute. But I don't buy it either. Try the e-mail now, the farging bastiches put a spam filter on my account unbeknownst to me, and now I have to approve everyone.
Strip clubs have been discussed to death. I personally don't believe that's the explanation, because this is a politically correct family newspaper that is sponsoring the hunt.
My favorite (inane) strip club theory is that the med is at the same park as last year, Como. Because one of the larger strip clubs in town is called Deja Vu. And if they hid it in the same park two years in a row, it would be like deja vu.
But see, you don't understand. We don't want it at the hated Como again. It was just there last year. And it was just there in 2001. It would be the cruelest of jokes to have it there a third time.
And, to answer your question, the theory is that the people who survived the flood were displaced and so they travelled away from the region and took the flood story with them.
There is a common flood story, but from what I have read I think that the flood occured to all cultures globally, instead of happening in one area and being transmitted.
Which is not to say that I don't think there was communication between cultures - to the contrary, I think it happened much more than we know at present - but it happened both pre- and post-cataclysmic flood.
For Sparky: Secret Diariesof the Fellowship of the Ring characters.
Nice. I see already by your tagline that this is actually the kind of spoofing I enjoy.
Have you read National Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings"?
Edit: I've read some now, pretty good - although obviously referring to the thrice-damned movie version, which kills it for me a touch. :)
Lighten up, Francis.
Any of you weirdos touch my stuff, and I'll kiss you.
(anyone read todays Get Fuzzy?)
I scored 17, so I am apparantly older than dirt. Who knew?
History Exam...
Everyone over 40 should have a pretty easy time at this exam.
If you are under 40 you can claim a handicap.
This is a History Exam for those who don't mind seeing how much they really remember about what went on in their life.
Get paper and pencil and number from 1 to 20.
Write the letter of each answer and score at the end.
Then, best of all, before you pass this test on, put your score in the subject line!
1. In the 1940s, where were automobile headlight dimmer switches located?
a. On the floor shift knob
b. On the floor board, to the left of the clutch
c. Next to the horn
2. The bottle top of a Royal Crown Cola bottle had holes in it. For what was it used?
a. Capture lightning bugs
b. To sprinkle clothes before ironing
c. Large salt shaker
3. Why was having milk delivered a problem in northern winters?
a. Cows got cold and wouldn't produce milk
b. Ice on highways forced delivery by dog sled
c. Milkmen left deliveries outside of front doors and milk would freeze, expanding and pushing up the cardboard bottle top.
4. What was the popular chewing gum named for a game of chance?
a. Blackjack
b. Gin
c. Craps!
5. What method did women use to look as if they were wearing stockings when none were available due to rationing during W.W.II?
a. Suntan
b. Leg painting
c. Wearing slacks
6. What postwar car turned automotive design on its ear when you couldn't tell whether it was coming or going?
a. Studebaker
b. Nash Metro
c. Tucker
7. Which was a popular candy when you were a kid?
a. Strips of dried peanut butter
b. Chocolate licorice bars
c. Wax coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water inside
8. How was Butch wax used?
a. To stiffen a flat-top haircut so it stood up
b. To make floors shiny and prevent scuffing
c. On the wheels of roller skates to prevent rust
9. Before inline skates, how did you keep your roller skates attached to your shoes?
a. With clamps, tightened by a skate key
b. Woven straps that crossed the foot
c. Long pieces of twine
10. As a kid, what was considered the best way to reach a decision?
a. Consider all the facts
b. Ask Mom
c. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo
11. What was the most dreaded disease in the 1940's?
a. Smallpox
b. AIDS
c. Polio
12. "I'll be down to get you in a ________, Honey"
a. SUV
b. Taxi
c. Streetcar
13. What was the name of Caroline Kennedy's pet pony?
a. Old Blue
b. Paint
c. Macaroni
14. What was a Duck-and-Cover Drill?
a. Part of the game of hide and seek
b. What you did when your Mom called you in to do chores
c. Hiding under your desk, and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill.
15. What was the name of the Indian Princess on the Howdy Doody show?
a. Princess Summerfallwinterspring
b. Princess Sacajewea
c. Princess Moonshadow
16. What did all the really savvy students do when mimeographed tests were handed out in school?
a. Immediately sniffed the purple ink, as this was believed to get you high
b. Made paper airplanes to see who could sail theirs out the window
c. Wrote another pupil's name on the top, to avoid their failure
17. Why did your Mom shop in stores that gave Green Stamps with purchases?
a. To keep you out of mischief by licking the backs, which tasted like bubble gum
b. They could be put in special books and redeemed for various household items
c. They were given to the kids to be used as stick-on tattoos
18. Praise the Lord, and pass the _________?
a. Meatballs
b. Dames
c. Ammunition
19. What was the name of the singing group that made the song "Cabdriver" a hit?
a. The Ink Spots
b. The Supremes
c. The Esquires
20. Who left his heart in San Francisco?
a. Tony Bennett
b. Xavier Cugat
c. George Gershwin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
ANSWERS
1. b) On the floor, to the left of the clutch. Hand controls, popular in Europe, took till the late '60s to catch on.
2. b) To sprinkle clothes before ironing. Who had a steam iron?
3. c) Cold weather caused the milk to freeze and expand, popping the bottle top.
4. a) Blackjack Gum.
5. b) Special makeup was applied, followed by drawing a seam down the back of the leg with eyebrow pencil.
6. a) 1946 Studebaker.
7. c) Wax coke bottles containing super-sweet colored water.
8. a) Wax for your flat top (butch) haircut.
9. a) With clamps, tightened by a skate key, which you wore on a shoestring around your neck.
10. c) Eeny-meeny-miney-mo.
11. c) Polio. In beginning of August, swimming pools were closed, movies and other public gathering places were closed to try to prevent spread of the disease.
12.. b) Taxi. Better be ready by half-past eight!
13. c) Macaroni.
14. c) Hiding under your desk, and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill.
15. a) Princess Summerfallwinterspring. She was another puppet.
16. a) Immediately sniffed the purple ink to get a high.
17. b) Put in a special stamp book, they could be traded for household items at the Green Stamp store.
18. c) Ammunition, and we'll all be free.
19. a) The widely famous 50's group: The Inkspots.
20. a) Tony Bennett, and he sounds just as good today..
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SCORING
17- 20 correct: You are older than dirt, and obviously gifted with mental abilities. Now if you could only find your glasses. Definitely someone who should share their wisdom!
12 -16 correct: Not quite dirt yet, but your mind is getting keen.
0 -11 correct: You are not old enough to share the wisdom of your experiences.
Send this to your friends with your score in the subject line!
Hmm. I also got a 17. I got 6,12, and 15 wrong. You?
I missed three. 9, 12 and 15.
I missed 6, 15 and 19.
So, we're all older than dirt, and don't know question #15. And so the sum of our knowledge grows. Heh.
At least we know what we don't know.
That's a start.
17 too! I missed 7, 8, and...15!
For those that I've bored with treasure hunt info, here's the first clue:
Say it ain't so, Clueless Joe,
And all who prattle and bark.
Stop yer clue-bashin', if treasure's your passion,
Go you look in an area park.
Frosti have you heard of the Urban Challenge? This is the link for the 2003 one in the TwinCities.They don't have one scheduled yet for 2004, but you may enjoy it.
P and his friend did the one in DC in 2002 and had a blast. It sounds similiar to the medallion hunt but it's all in one day. All in a coupla hours actually.
If you click on past races they'll see the types of quesitions they asked.
I've heard about it. But from what I remember there was a fairly hefty entrance fee. Plus, I dunno if I've got the energy to do another hunt full time.
Sounds pretty generic to me, dude -
Clueless Joe - Shoeless Joe - baseball diamond?
prattle - prattle on like a child - kiddie recreation equipment
bark - duh, dog - animal exercise area
Doesn't sound like it eliminates too much.
amie - whatcha' trying to do, kill him!? Hee. He gets *really* seriously into this one already, loses lots of sleep and everything.
Bark could also be a reference to a tree. But, the PP logo this year does have a little doggie digging in the show. Hmmmm...
Clue #2
Jughead has spoken, look for the token
We'll make it worth your while
Like Archie, you seek an object this week
As green as the Emerald Isle.
Nice tag line dude. Hee. Ahem.
I haven't the foggiest what this clue is talking about, for the record. Archie and Jughead - wasn't the diner they used to hang out at called Pop's? The only thing Green that comes to mind is the MGM hotel - in Las Vegas. Heh. Emerald Isle, what's that from? Ireland, right?
< head hurts >
Sparky, if you were paying attention you would know that Archie Comics had a treasure hunt themed comic in December.
Comic book's art imitates St. Paul life in treasure-hunt plot
BY RICHARD CHIN
Pioneer Press
The town of Riverdale is gripped by treasure-hunt fever when the local newspaper sponsors a midwinter contest with thousands of dollars as a prize.
Irrepressible teenager Archie Andrews joins the search, along with his buddies Jughead, Betty and Veronica.
Even the high school principal, Mr. Weatherbee, takes a crack at finding the treasure by trying to solve cryptic rhyming clues published in the newspaper and joining hundreds of other searchers armed with rakes, shovels and flashlights and scouring a local park.
That scenario — from the Archie & Friends No. 78 comic book on the newsstands this month — probably sounds vaguely familiar, and with good reason.
Comic-book writer George Gladir said he got the plot idea after reading about the Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt, held each winter, in a front-page Los Angeles Times feature story published in January.
full story:
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/special_packages/winter_carnival/7462856.htm
I talked to that reporter last year while waiting at the PP for a paper one night last year!
And while I don't think that sheds any light on anything, it at least explains the Jughead reference. I think the Emerald Isle reference is to something that you can see from the hiding spot.
clue no 3
"Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day.
It's neither here nor there."
A quite clever device, but beware false advice.
Prank? Perhaps. All is fair.
Frosti's current favorite park: Battle Creek
4.
East Side, West Side, take your honey for a ride
To a stony and sandy place
Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball
To the swift belongs the race
Current fav: still Battle Creek.
also runners:
Mears
Phalen
Highland
The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
This would tend to lend a little credence to your Battle park theme... or not.
Dude, I think I love you.
Er, thanks man - I love you too!
Did I do good?
<signs up to be a fly on that wall>
It looks kind of uncomfortable up on that wall, amie - c'mon down! Hee.
I like your bible quote.
Whoa! I totally missed that little exchange somehow. voyeur!amie
<whistles innocently>
You, innocent? Riiight...
OK, here's my thoughts:
1.
Say it ain't so, Clueless Joe,
And all who prattle and bark.
Stop yer clue-bashin', if treasure's your passion,
Go you look in an area park.
If you anagram "prattle and bark" you get "Battle darn park"
2.
Jughead has spoken, look for the token
We'll make it worth your while
Like Archie, you seek an object this week
As green as the Emerald Isle
There's a shamrock corner near Battle Creek. Emerald Island==Irish==Shamrock
3.
"Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day.
It's neither here nor there."
A quite clever device, but beware false advice.
Prank? Perhaps. All is fair.
all is fair in love & war==battle
4.
East Side, West Side, take your honey for a ride
To a stony and sandy place
Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball
To the swift belongs the race
stony & sandy==sandstone cliffs in the lower part of Battle Creek
also
"he race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong,
neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding,
nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
Bible -- Ecclesiastes 9:11"
2:20 until clue #5. Supposed to be -20 actual temp tonight, not even factoring in wind chill.
5.
Go to the place, it's no disgrace,
Where the girls shall be happy to dance
Don't look in the rough, but if you want the stuff
You may have to get dirt on your pants
Bah. I got nothin. Except, this will be in a park adjacent to a golf course (Don't look "in the rough"). And, it will most likely be taped underneath something, like a picnic table. Forcing one to get down on all fours to see it, hence "getting your pants dirty."
Must.Go.To.Bed.
Don't look in the rough
I'm reading this two ways this morning. Could be saying there is a golf course, could be saying there isn't. Hmmm.
What do you think about the dancing girls? Battle Creek has two streets running into it named after girls, Grace and Darlene. But nothing about dancing. I think that dance is a diversion of some sort, I've been looking at synonyms for dance trying to get ideas.
And Sparky, your e-mail account just rejected me.
I've been hearing that alot. Darn fickle e-mail.
Any old burlesque in St. Paul? I know there were some down in the old warehouse district in Mpls...
One theory I heard is Nevada Street. Nevada, Vegas, Showgirls? Huh?
I don't buy it, but it's funny.
Cute. But I don't buy it either.
Try the e-mail now, the farging bastiches put a spam filter on my account unbeknownst to me, and now I have to approve everyone.
Get this, they teach community ed dance classes at Battle Creek Rec Center:
Dance/Creative Movement/Ballet
Learn the very basic preliminary steps to becoming a dancer while exploring a variety of music and movement.
Course# Location Day(s)/Date Time Ses Fee
4602UA Battle Cr Rec Sa Jan 31 9:30a-10:00a 6 $25
Age 2-3. End date March 6. To register, call Battle Creek Rec. Center 651-501-6347.
Course# Location Day(s)/Date Time Ses Fee
4602UB Battle Cr Rec Sa Jan 31 10:00a-10:45a 6 $30
Ages 4-5. End date March 6. To register, call Battle Creek Rec. Center 651-501-6347.
Course# Location Day(s)/Date Time Ses Fee
4602UC Battle Cr Rec Sa Jan 31 10:45a-11:30a 6 $30
Ages 6-7. End date March 6. To register, call Battle Creek Rec. Center 651-501-6347.
Instructor: H. Gaetz
Cool. Ever get the feeling that like most conspiracy theorists, if you look hard enough you can see the black copters everywhere? :)
Is there a strip club nearby?
Strip clubs have been discussed to death. I personally don't believe that's the explanation, because this is a politically correct family newspaper that is sponsoring the hunt.
My favorite (inane) strip club theory is that the med is at the same park as last year, Como. Because one of the larger strip clubs in town is called Deja Vu. And if they hid it in the same park two years in a row, it would be like deja vu.
Hee, I like that.
But see, you don't understand. We don't want it at the hated Como again. It was just there last year. And it was just there in 2001. It would be the cruelest of jokes to have it there a third time.
Oh I'll well aware I don't understand this business. Yes. Yes indeedy.
But it's okay amie - I don't understand it either, nor do I particularly want to catch the fever as bad as Frosti has it. :)
Hee.
<sits with Sparky on the non-understanding couch>