Man: Is this the right room for an argument? Other Man: (pause) I've told you once. Man: No you haven't! Other Man: Yes I have. Man: When? Other Man: Just now. Man: No you didn't! Other Man: Yes I did! Man: You didn't! Other Man: I did! Man: You didn't! Other Man: I'm telling you, I did! Man: You didn't!
No, I renounced it as fairy tales and hocus pocus. A by product as an ancient system of control, a way to control the populace and explain the unexplained
No, I renounced it as fairy tales and hocus pocus. A by product as an ancient system of control, a way to control the populace and explain the unexplained
That just goes to show you that you don't comprehend Christianity as you think you do. But it does provide self control for believers and even a degree of self control for nonbelievers that are exposed to it. And that is a good thing.
because no one system of morals is any better than the next That's a croc.
That just goes to show you that you don't comprehend Christianity as you think you do. But it does provide self control for believers and even a degree of self control for nonbelievers that are exposed to it. And that is a good thing.
I comprehend Christianity better than most Christians
Who are you to say you are any more right than I am?
Not me. But there are plenty of people that know more about it that either one of us. It is apparent that you have bought into the detractors and anti Christian bigots. They don't get it. They let their hate get in the way. Why do they hate? Because they feel guilty and they don't want to feel guilty. They would rather revel in their moral depravity.
One of the things that bothers me the most about fundamentalists is their belief that nobody will do the right thing unless they are threatened with eternal hellfire.
I am an agnostic, bordering on atheist, and I do things every day to help people, make their lives easier and make the immediate vicinity a better place simply because it's the right thing to do. I am motivated neither by the promise of eternal reward not the threat of eternal punishment, and I don't believe that any thinking person feels otherwise. That there is a significant percentage of the populace which believes that people must be coerced to do good is disturbing.
One of the things that bothers me the most about fundamentalists is their belief that nobody will do the right thing unless they are threatened with eternal hellfire.
That and the promise of eternal life makes for good social order.
I am an agnostic, bordering on atheist, and I do things every day to help people, make their lives easier and make the immediate vicinity a better place simply because it's the right thing to do. In Demons world there is no right and wrong only perceptionI am motivated neither by the promise of eternal reward not the threat of eternal punishment, and I don't believe that any thinking person feels otherwise. Well then you are just an insensitive oaf that happens to be full of himself.That there is a significant percentage of the populace which believes that people must be coerced to do good is disturbing. It may well be true. But then truth disturbs you so much that sometimes you make believe it doesn't exist.
Why do you feel so threatened by someone doing the right thing just because it's the right thing to do, jethro? Why does that make me "an insensitive oaf that happens to be full of himself"?
I'm not trying to force people into my way of thinking, you are; that's being full of oneself. Your first response to my post -- "makes for good social order" -- seems to confirm the position of those who believe that religion by and large is not a search for truth but a means to control the masses.
you even put yourself in a box....but you like to leave the lid open
everyone's lid is open dude
you even put yourself in a box....but you like to leave the lid open
LOL, that's a good line, crabs.
it depends on what you believe as to whether you believe there are absolutes
No. There are absolutes no matter what you believe.
in fact jethro is a fine example of an absolute ass.
no, ares, that would be you.
nope. pretty sure that's you.
an ass and none to bright, either.
at least this ass knows the difference between to and too.
can you say "pedant?"
I'm pretty sure jethro knows how to say "talking out of my ass"
can you say "pedant?"
sure can. and yes, i will be incredibly pedantic with your use of the english language, simply because i can.
I'm pretty sure jethro knows how to say "talking out of my ass"
I have seen you talking out your ass with every post, Demon.
I've logically discussed my positions.
you have just spewed mindless hyperbole
sad, really
you have.
lmao
you have no ideas what morals are
you have no ideas what morals are
You can only say that becuase you yourself have no clue. I don't think you have any idea what is right or wrong. I think you only know what you want.
Man: Is this the right room for an argument?
Other Man: (pause) I've told you once.
Man: No you haven't!
Other Man: Yes I have.
Man: When?
Other Man: Just now.
Man: No you didn't!
Other Man: Yes I did!
Man: You didn't!
Other Man: I did!
Man: You didn't!
Other Man: I'm telling you, I did!
Man: You didn't!
I'm still waiting for you to provide the definition of this "one true morality" that you keep claiming, bodine.
your silence on providing what exactly this "one true thing" is is deafening.
I'm still waiting for you to provide the definition of this "one true morality" that you keep claiming, bodine.
You are unable or unwilling to understand, crabs. Suffice it to say there is right or wrong outside of what your little mind can comprehend.
humor us, oh wise one
talk to God, Demon.
(s)he's not answering.
(no surprise)
no, you aren't listening.
(no surprise)
I listened for 22 years
not answer
no god
I doubt that you have ever listened to anything, Demon.
I used to be an altar boy
That doesn't mean you listened. Were you excommunicated?
No, I renounced it as fairy tales and hocus pocus. A by product as an ancient system of control, a way to control the populace and explain the unexplained
Why is it called the "moral majority" as opposed to the "moral superior"?
because no one system of morals is any better than the next
No, I renounced it as fairy tales and hocus pocus. A by product as an ancient system of control, a way to control the populace and explain the unexplained
That just goes to show you that you don't comprehend Christianity as you think you do. But it does provide self control for believers and even a degree of self control for nonbelievers that are exposed to it. And that is a good thing.
because no one system of morals is any better than the next That's a croc.
No, this is a "croc":
And this is a crock:
And I believe the self-professed Christian was implying the scatalogical phrase "a crock of shit." Nice talk, jethro . . .
pieter, you beat me to the punch. allow me to save jethro the work of repeating what he told me the other day:
pedant.
:)
That just goes to show you that you don't comprehend Christianity as you think you do. But it does provide self control for believers and even a degree of self control for nonbelievers that are exposed to it. And that is a good thing.
I comprehend Christianity better than most Christians
I comprehend Christianity better than most Christians
Not based on what I have seen from your posts.
because I interpret it differently than you?
Who are you to say you are any more right than I am?
because I interpret it differently than you?
Who are you to say you are any more right than I am?
Not me. But there are plenty of people that know more about it that either one of us. It is apparent that you have bought into the detractors and anti Christian bigots. They don't get it. They let their hate get in the way. Why do they hate? Because they feel guilty and they don't want to feel guilty. They would rather revel in their moral depravity.
One of the things that bothers me the most about fundamentalists is their belief that nobody will do the right thing unless they are threatened with eternal hellfire.
I am an agnostic, bordering on atheist, and I do things every day to help people, make their lives easier and make the immediate vicinity a better place simply because it's the right thing to do. I am motivated neither by the promise of eternal reward not the threat of eternal punishment, and I don't believe that any thinking person feels otherwise. That there is a significant percentage of the populace which believes that people must be coerced to do good is disturbing.
One of the things that bothers me the most about fundamentalists is their belief that nobody will do the right thing unless they are threatened with eternal hellfire.
That and the promise of eternal life makes for good social order.
I am an agnostic, bordering on atheist, and I do things every day to help people, make their lives easier and make the immediate vicinity a better place simply because it's the right thing to do. In Demons world there is no right and wrong only perceptionI am motivated neither by the promise of eternal reward not the threat of eternal punishment, and I don't believe that any thinking person feels otherwise. Well then you are just an insensitive oaf that happens to be full of himself.That there is a significant percentage of the populace which believes that people must be coerced to do good is disturbing. It may well be true. But then truth disturbs you so much that sometimes you make believe it doesn't exist.
Why do you feel so threatened by someone doing the right thing just because it's the right thing to do, jethro? Why does that make me "an insensitive oaf that happens to be full of himself"?
I'm not trying to force people into my way of thinking, you are; that's being full of oneself. Your first response to my post -- "makes for good social order" -- seems to confirm the position of those who believe that religion by and large is not a search for truth but a means to control the masses.
It is apparent that you have bought into the detractors and anti Christian bigots
I have done no such thing. My beliefs on Christianity and religion are my own and not subject to anyone else's influence
In Demons world there is no right and wrong only perception
I made no such proposition
pieter, I couldn't have said either of your posts better myself
Thanks, Damon.
it's more or less the exact stance I take
Hugs and kisses.
pieter's a pretty bright dude, no matter how you try to detract from that
Wasn't detracting. Commenting on your feeble attempt to find a friend.
it was a compliment, I don't need allies here to take on the likes of you and jethro
I like Crabby, Jethro, Pieter & Torpedo.
As Scribe would say: "Group Hug!".
I'm not trying to make friends, I'm trying to make points