Veterans Issues

"Why shouldn't he be proud of that and stand up and say you're darn right I'm liberal and proud of it. "

Becuase he wouldn't get called a liberal after that. He'd be a @#$% @#$*&( #$%^&&*@#$%^& @%$#&*()^ Liberal.

From Massachusetts.

Elaborate a bit on that, before you dismiss it out of hand JT.

Let's chew on it a little. It may not be run by them, but a couple of those mentioned certainly have influence in Republican politics, don't you think?

Etch this in stone: Never let an opponent define you.

If you let an opponent define you, they'll lie about you.

Rick 6/16/04 11:41am

People call Bush a conservative and he doesn't run from it. Many think he's not conservative enough. I disagree with him on many issues. Someone can call me a consevative and I'm not going to deny it. There are certain beliefs I have that aren't but by in large I am and say so gladly. The point is that he should be proud of his record if he beleives in what he did and is doing, why run from it ? He embraced liberal ideals for 20 years in the senate and suddenly he's the new Scoop Jackson?

 

"The point is that he should be proud of his record if he beleives in what he did and is doing, why run from it ?"

He'd be dumb to try.

Go to his website. You can probably find where he stands on just about any issue you could think of.

It may not satisfy you, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a stand.

Many people believe he trys to be all things to all people.

and for good reason.

Defend the nominee at any cost, right Rick?

Didn't know it was costing me anything.

I was thinking maybe credibility but then I remembered you are a liberal. My mistake.

THX 1138
- (PFID:efa8549) - 05:49am Jun 16, 2004 PST

Hippies use side door.

but a couple of those mentioned certainly have influence in Republican politics, don't you think?

I won't argue that they have influence.  I'd rather have their influence than the pro-abortion, gay marriage, hug a tree, blame the oppressive middle aged white man for everything, rob from Peter to pay Paul communist, free dope for everyone crowd.

 

Rick
- (PFID:1e2ab84c) - 05:59am Jun 16, 2004 PST

"What do you want for Christmas, Mr. President?" "'Minnesota.'" --- Christmas 1984

Is it because there are more of the -- "Baptists, Southern-Christians and/or Fundamentalists, those Catholics who are also "fundamentalist" and those conservatives who favor the ideals of say White-Supremacists -- than there are of the, pro-abortion, gay marriage, hug a tree, blame the oppressive middle aged white man for everything, rob from Peter to pay Paul communist, free dope for everyone crowd?

THX 1138
- (PFID:efa8549) - 06:04am Jun 16, 2004 PST

Hippies use side door.

I was being sarcastic, Bill Fold was not.  He was just being ignorant or stupid.

Oh, really? Then why did you say...:

Most of the groups he mentioned there is a good part of the reason Republicans presidential candidates carry the South.

Yeah, there's probably some truthto that.
(Eh JT???)

I said it because it IS true, and you finally agreed, for the same reason. Without the Fundamentalist-Vote, the Republicans would losethe White House for CERTAIN, and probably the Congress as well. I wasn't making any unproven accusations, I was merely pointing out a FACT.

And by the way, GDubbya Bush has borrowed us into a 4 Trillion Dollar-National Debt. HISleadership has done that, so don't accuse and blame us "rob from Peter to pay Paul communist(s), free dope for everyone crowd"

Democrats

.  Damn Man.....talk about idiotic and accusitory rhetoric.

Just yesterday, the Senate, following a similar vote in the Congress, voted to increase the size of the Army by 20,000 Troops, and forced Gdubbya and Rummy to accept it, or VETO the Bill for appropriations. THAT, is your President. THEY(Congress) are run mostly by Southern Fundamentalists man!! Republicans own all of it now!! Don't you see that?
Trent Lott
...
Tom Delay
...
Bill Frist
... Good God,

are you blind

?

They are also deserting the man, and making him swallow his own words and his policy with regards to Troops and the War in Iraq, which far more than
any other issue
will determine the outcome of the Election.

Sorry, but the truth sometimes hurts. You and other center-of-right Conservatives lost the Party in the 1980's man! If you aren't from South of the Mason Dixon line, you ain't shit anymore, except come election time! That is when GDubbya will come looking for your vote... ?

Call me all the names you want... But open your eyes.

 

Those Damn Christians, who do they think they are VOTING?

Bill Fold, you go ahead and vote for the pro-abortion, gay marriage, hug a tree, blame the oppressive middle aged white man for everything, rob from Peter to pay Paul communist, free dope for everyone crowd, and I'll vote Republican.

::slams head on desk::

BTW:  You're a frickin nutjob.

you aren't supposed to hit your head like that when you do the Nazi salute...you are actually doing the heavy metal salute there THX

I have no clue what you're talking about, Crabby

>
I have no clue what you're talking about, Crabby

I know you don't, that's why it's so funny

well, Rick, if the shoe fits...........................

Care to share?

I could use a laugh this afternoon.

it ain't funny, JT. but did you really think it would be?

Care to share?

bodine seems to get it, let him explain it

this should be good for a laugh

Is he calling me a nazi?

Is he calling me a nazi?

are you calling someone a communist?

No one in particular.

just the gay, non-white, non-males....no one in particulat.

go ahead and salute again.

Idiots like you only hurt those that are truly oppressed.

Obviously crabs is the product of bad genes.

"Quit talking to me crabgrass" - Torpedo-8

THX 1138
- (PFID:efa8549) - 05:27am Jun 18, 2004 PST (#
  

Those Damn Christians, who do they think they are VOTING?

Bill Fold, you go ahead and vote for the pro-abortion, gay marriage, hug a tree, blame the oppressive middle aged white man for everything, rob from Peter to pay Paul communist, free dope for everyone crowd, and I'll vote Republican.

::slams head on desk::

BTW:  You're a frickin nutjob.

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Oh yeah...sure, OK. I am voting for the CANDIDATE, not any particular groupof citizens...But you can accuse me of doing so if you like.

You on the other hand?
You go right ahead and vote for the
VA Fund Cutting
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Anti Education
-
War Mongering
-

Homophobic

-
Rob Everybody By Borrowing And Spending 






To Pay For the

Unneccessary IRAQ War

- "
Compassionate Conservatives
"....  K?

You have slammed that head of yours, one too many times.

 

THX,

Rick was right, stick around long enough and someone will call you a Nazi.

I never knew. Hmmm. BTW the dry cleaner called and your brown shirt is back from the cleaners. They polished your jack boots too.. Oops, sorry that was meant to be an e-gram. (Sarcasm off)

JT a Nazi, one of the more outlandish things I've ever seen on these threads. Although he does like sauerkraut.hmmmm.  

 

 

If THX were really a nazi, he'd be saying "Now get the heil out of here!" in his shed thread.

June 17, 2004 -- www.dav.org

Sen. Daschle Praised for Veterans Health Care Amendment to Defense Bill

WASHINGTON—The Disabled American Veterans (DAV) commends Senator Thomas A. Daschle (D-S. D.) for sponsoring an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act that would


guarantee dependable, stable, and sustained funding for veterans health care


. Senator Daschle’s amendment calls for a fundamental change in the way government funding is provided for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) medical care system. “This shift in VA health care funding would guarantee adequate resources to care for sick and disabled veterans,” said DAV National Commander Alan W. Bowers. “Skyrocketing medical costs, decades of inadequate, inflation-eroded appropriations, and increasing demandfor medical services
have severely hampered timely access to quality health care for our nation’s sick and disabled veterans
,” Commander Bowers said.

As the President’s Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our Nation’s Veterans noted in its final report last year, there is a significant mismatch in VA between demand and available funding. If left unresolved, the report warns, this imbalance will delay veterans’ access to care and could threaten the quality of VA health care. “The amendment offered by Senator Daschle would close the gap between funding and demand for veterans health care and eliminate the year-to-year uncertainty about funding levels that has prevented the VA from being able to adequately plan for and meet the constantly growing needs of veterans seeking treatment,” Commander Bowers said. “It is crucial that guaranteed funding legislation be enacted this year to ensure that all eligible veterans — including those injured in Operation Iraqi Freedom and the war on terror — have access to timely, quality health care,” said Commander Bowers.

Commander Bowers pointed to a nationwide survey which found that three out of four Americans (75 percent) believe veterans health care should be a "top to high funding priority" in the federal budget. Most Americans (87 percent) also support making veterans health care funding mandatory. The survey, conducted earlier this year by Princeton Survey Research Associates International, shows that 74 percent of Americans surveyed believe that Congress and the President have a very big responsibility to ensure that veterans receive their health care and other benefits following their military service. Nearly all survey respondents (95 percent) said veterans
should not have to wait
to receive their benefits.

The 1.2 million-member Disabled American Veterans, a non-profit organization founded in 1920 and chartered by the U.S. Congress in 1932, represents this nation’s wartime disabled veterans. It is dedicated to a single purpose: building better lives for our nation’s disabled veterans and their families. For more information, visit the organization’s Web site

www.dav.org

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Another MAJORpiece of Legislation for the benefit of ALL VETERANS, and from a Democrat.
Gee...who would have thunk it possible... ME. This is a bill that shouldn't even HAVE to be debated.

Bill, is that the one that recently passed the Senate 97-0?

is that the one that recently passed the Senate 97-0?

Bwaaaah!

97?  Who didn't even find this an important enough issue to bother to vote for or against it?

Oh come on THX. The people of his district don't need to be represented.  So what if he is getting paid to travel the nation and talk with PAC's.  It's all about winning the election you know.

Kerry is a 12% Senator. He must not care about 88% of the votes that effect us. Yet the libs are falling all over this guy.

Yeah, but he does have a nice jet.

 

Didn't you guys have a fit when the gov. of Cali was voted out?