Bet in War College they taught a little about Napoleon. He might not be PC now.
They French aren't a bunch of sissy's, they're just currently corrupt. They'd rather deal with a dictator and make money off the oil for food program than support and promote democracy.
They teach everything from Napolean to Hammurabi. History is of course important. A poll saying which county is the sexyist probably isn't on the cirriculum.
The French aren't all bad. They have their good points. The last 20 years they've acted like anything but Allies. In fact they aren't. The Vichy live on.
Bodies of babies found in Saddam's 'killing field'
By Joe Murphy, Evening Standard Political Editor
13 October 2004
A mass grave containing the bodies of children, babies and their mothers has been unearthed in Iraq.
shocked investigators reported finding "thighbones the size of matchsticks" at what they believe is the site of one of Saddam Hussein's atrocities. Among the findings-were the skeletons of unborn babies and toddlers clutching toys.
A baby had been shot in the back of its head and was found still being clutched by its mother, who had been shot in the face.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 12 -- Local insurgents in the city of Fallujah are turning against the foreign fighters who have been their allies in the rebellion that has held the U.S. military at bay in parts of Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland, according to Fallujah residents, insurgent leaders and Iraqi and U.S. officials.
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<NITF>Relations are deteriorating as local fighters negotiate to avoid a U.S.-led military offensive against Fallujah, while foreign fighters press to attack Americans and their Iraqi supporters. The disputes have spilled over into harsh words and sporadic violence, with Fallujans killing at least five foreign Arabs in recent weeks, according to witnesses.
</NITF>
"If the Arabs will not leave willingly, we will make them leave by force," said Jamal Adnan, a taxi driver who left his house in Fallujah's Shurta neighborhood a month ago after the house next door was bombed by U.S. aircraft targeting foreign insurgents.
Iraq’s community of 750,000 Christians has grown increasingly anxious at the rise of Islamic fundamentalism since the ouster of Saddam Hussein last year. Hundreds have fled to neighboring Jordan and Syria.
Fold hears lots of things. The right is angry? Go back and read the thousands of your hate filled, bile laden, insulting, posts over the last 3 years, Fold.
Oct 18, 11:18 PM (ET) By DAVID ESPO (AP) President Bush walks waves as he walks to his car after arriving at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood..ÂÂ
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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush and Democratic rival John Kerry traded biting accusations over the war in Iraq on Monday as early Florida voting produced scattered complaints that stirred memories of the state's chaotic 2000 recount.
On a day of strikingly personal campaign rhetoric, Bush said his Democratic challenger stands for "protest and defeatism" in Iraq. He added that Kerry would lead the nation toward "a major defeat in the war on terror."
The four-term Massachusetts senator accused the president of "arrogant boasting" to hide bitter truths about a war waged on his command. He cited a published report saying the top general in Iraq had warned Pentagon officials last winter about a shortage of supplies.
If anything, Democratic running mate John Edwards was harsher. Bush is trying to "con the American people into believing that he is the only one who can fight and win the war on terrorism," said the North Carolina senator.
Little more than two weeks before Election Day, the national polls showed a tight race. The two rivals are tied statistically in some and Bush holds a slender advantage in others. Yet several recent surveys show the president beneath 50 percent support, often a late-campaign sign of difficulty for any incumbent.
Aides to both candidates claimed to possess private polls showing their man ahead in the dozen battleground states that will determine the outcome of the election.
Florida was prominent among them. There, the first difficulties surfaced soon after early voting opened in the state whose recount reached the Supreme Court four years ago before propelling Bush to the White House.
"This is not a good start," said Democratic State Rep. Shelley Vana, adding that the paper ballot she received in a Palm Beach County polling place was missing a page.
There were a few computer-related problems elsewhere across the state, but no early reports of difficulties with ATM-like touch-screen voting machines introduced since the troubled 2000 election. "It tells you exactly what to do. It's idiot-proof," said Robin Punches, voting in Palm Beach County.
In another early-voting state, Bush's parents, former President George H.W. Bush and his wife, Barbara, cast early ballots for their son in Texas during the day.
Kerry spent his day in Florida, urging supporters to vote early at each stop. Bush had appearances in the state Monday night and Tuesday, part of an effort to motivate his backers to cast early ballots as well.
Bush put the powers of incumbency on display during the day, signing legislation at the White House to finance the Department of Homeland Security before flying off for a speech on terrorism in New Jersey.
Along the way, he accused his rival of "shameless scare tactics." In an Associated Press interview aboard Air Force One, Bush said Kerry is "trying to scare our seniors" with false charges of a secret Republican plan to privatize Social Security.
He also faulted Kerry for telling younger Americans there will be a return to the military draft - an option Bush has repeatedly and emphatically ruled out.
The president's speech in Marlton, N.J., was an indictment of Kerry's position on the war in Iraq, delivered in a state that felt firsthand the loss of life at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, and last voted for a Republican presidential candidate in 1988.
"The senator from Massachusetts has now flip-flopped his way to a dangerous position ... a strategy of retreat," Bush said. "He has talked about artificial timetables to pull our troops out of Iraq. He has sent the signal that America's overriding goal in Iraq would be to leave, even if the job is not done."
He added that while "America does the hard work of fighting terror and spreading freedom, he has chosen the easy path of protest and defeatism."
Kerry aide Michael McCurry called Bush's speech "arguably his strongest negative attack to date," and said the Democratic senator was "going to be rebutting that very aggressively" in the next two or three days.
Kerry rebutted by citing Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the former top general of U.S. forces in Iraq. Referring to a report in The Washington Post, Kerry said that the day after Sanchez warned Pentagon superiors about supply problems, "George Bush went out and told the American people our troops were properly equipped."
"Despite the president's arrogant boasting that he has done everything right in Iraq and that he's made no mistakes, the truth is beginning to catch up with him," Kerry said. "And it's a bitter truth, my friends."
Bush and Kerry both buttressed their campaigns with fresh commercials on the issue of the war.
"John Kerry and his liberal allies ... are they a risk we can afford to take?" asks Bush's ad.
Kerry's spot shows images of violence in an attempt to undercut Bush's claims of effective wartime leadership. "In Iraq, American troops are attacked 87 times a day," it says. "At home, the Bush administration has acquired just 530 doses of licensed anthrax vaccine for America's civilian population."
A shortage of flu vaccine also became grist for the campaign during the day.
"The administration was warned about the shortage of flu vaccines three years ago, and they didn't act," Kerry said during a speech that was a broad condemnation of Bush's health care policies.
"We'll crack down on the price-gouging that's putting vaccines out of reach for people who need them today."
Vice President Dick Cheney, campaigning in West Virginia, blamed the threat of lawsuits and limited company profits for the shortage. The Republican also argued that the presidential ticket of Kerry and Edwards - two lawyers - would thwart medical liability reform.
"I'm sorry that this is becoming a political issue. This is a health issue," said Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control, in an interview on CNN.
British regulators recently shut down shipments from Chiron Corp. (CHIR), cutting the U.S. supply of flu shots almost in half.
Seriously though, what is wrong with people being there to observe what is going on? You will still have privacy to fill out your ballot, but it is what happens to those ballots before and after you vote and if there is any people committing fraud and such that is being observed. I would think that you would be for such observers to keep the election fair. I mean if people like Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Michael Jordan and George Foreman can be registered in Ohio, who knows what the Dems will try here. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041019/D85QG8S80.html
"It's a screw-up," said Tim Burke, chairman of the Hamilton County Board of Elections.
This Tim guy must be a nasty Republican trying to get Kerry off the ballot, right?
''The widespread nastiness, not just one race, not just here but all over the state, is the nastiest I can recall,'' said political veteran Tim Burke, chairman of the Hamilton County Board of Elections and co-chairman of the Hamilton County Democratic Party.
it appears that the good old USA is having more trouble with having an election than a country that needed liberated and is occupied in the midst of a warzone.
it appears that the good old USA is having more trouble with having an election than a country that needed liberated and is occupied in the midst of a warzone.
crabs is always saying utter fing b.s. go to hell s.o.b.
hey bodine, it's okay to spelling out fucking bullshit and son of a bitch here if you want.
I mean, if you are gonna say it, just go ahead and say it.
Are you ashamed of saying it or something?
Just because you didn't spell it out doesn't mean you didn't say it. EIther censor yourself or don't. This saying it shorthand and thinking it's not saying it is what is bullshit.
hey bodine, it's okay to spelling out fucking bullshit and son of a bitch here if you want. I'll do it my way jack a$$. Who the hell do you think you are?
I'll do it my way jack a$$. Who the hell do you think you are?
Someone who can see when someone has been made to feel guilty about "cursing", but has to anyway, so they think if they psuedo-censor it, their guilt won't bother them.
Someone who can see when someone has been made to feel guilty about "cursing", but has to anyway, so they think if they psuedo-censor it, their guilt won't bother them.
No dumb sh**, some people like censoring and I like to accommodate them. Also, when we were at the pioneer planet we were banned for using the complete words.
Wolvie, don't you think they would have problems in THOSE areas? I mean, why try to RIG the election in counties that are already ON your team...???
I mean, seriously...
The Democrats control and run how the elections are done in those counties. Exactly how can a Republican rig it? Sounds to me like the Democrats in those counties are just inept and should have been replaced after the last election.
"Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.
"Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "
A gracious Mike McCurry
"We believe President Bush should get the benefit of the doubt here," Kerry spokesman Mike McCurry said in a news release.
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Oct 20, 2004 at 04:41pm.]
Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.
"Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "
It is official Rick will believe anythingnegative that is said about Bush even outright and obvious lies.
In the interview, Robertson also said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made. "I mean, the Lord told meit was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "I warned him about casualties."
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The Lord told me to these freaking humans are crazy. He told me they are ddddddddd disaster and mmmmmmm messy. The Lord almighty is telling mighty truth.
Does Pat dial 10-10-987 1-800-mighty-Lord? I guess Pat's Lord told Bush sum tame ago dat he wus gonna be da President by cheating in Florida, eh?
Bet in War College they taught a little about Napoleon. He might not be PC now.
They French aren't a bunch of sissy's, they're just currently corrupt. They'd rather deal with a dictator and make money off the oil for food program than support and promote democracy.
Bet in War College they taught a little about Napoleon. He might not be PC now.
If you will recall Nepoleon was not a Frenchmen.
They French aren't a bunch of sissy's, they're just currently corrupt.Â
Just currently?
OK, he was Corsican. But did he march through most of Europe under the flag of Corsica? He wasn't known and Emporer of Corsica.
Why is his tomb in Paris if he's not a Frenchman?
They teach everything from Napolean to Hammurabi. History is of course important. A poll saying which county is the sexyist probably isn't on the cirriculum.
The French aren't all bad. They have their good points. The last 20 years they've acted like anything but Allies. In fact they aren't. The Vichy live on.
I'll take the 5K Joe
Bodies of babies found in Saddam's 'killing field'
By Joe Murphy, Evening Standard Political Editor
13 October 2004
A mass grave containing the bodies of children, babies and their mothers has been unearthed in Iraq.
shocked investigators reported finding "thighbones the size of matchsticks" at what they believe is the site of one of Saddam Hussein's atrocities. Among the findings-were the skeletons of unborn babies and toddlers clutching toys.
A baby had been shot in the back of its head and was found still being clutched by its mother, who had been shot in the face.
http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/14004914?source=Evening%20StandardÂ
A baby had been shot in the back of its head and was found still being clutched by its mother, who had been shot in the face.
Don't believe everything you read. It is all made up by Bush to defelect attention from the wrong war at the time and the wrong place.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 12 -- Local insurgents in the city of Fallujah are turning against the foreign fighters who have been their allies in the rebellion that has held the U.S. military at bay in parts of Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland, according to Fallujah residents, insurgent leaders and Iraqi and U.S. officials.
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<NITF>Relations are deteriorating as local fighters negotiate to avoid a U.S.-led military offensive against Fallujah, while foreign fighters press to attack Americans and their Iraqi supporters. The disputes have spilled over into harsh words and sporadic violence, with Fallujans killing at least five foreign Arabs in recent weeks, according to witnesses.
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"If the Arabs will not leave willingly, we will make them leave by force," said Jamal Adnan, a taxi driver who left his house in Fallujah's Shurta neighborhood a month ago after the house next door was bombed by U.S. aircraft targeting foreign insurgents.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28105-2004Oct12.html
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Scum killing scum. How fitting.
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Fold hears lots of things. The right is angry? Go back and read the thousands of your hate filled, bile laden, insulting, posts over the last 3 years, Fold.
I put Bill Fold on ignore because all his posts are just full of anger lately.
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyawn, he got caught looking in before.
Zarqawi Group Vows Al Qaeda Allegiance
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135696,00.html
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I wonder what foldy will do when every one has him on there ignore list=)
Bush, Kerry Exchange Bitter Words on Iraq
Oct 18, 11:18 PM (ET)
By DAVID ESPO
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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush and Democratic rival John Kerry traded biting accusations over the war in Iraq on Monday as early Florida voting produced scattered complaints that stirred memories of the state's chaotic 2000 recount.
On a day of strikingly personal campaign rhetoric, Bush said his Democratic challenger stands for "protest and defeatism" in Iraq. He added that Kerry would lead the nation toward "a major defeat in the war on terror."
The four-term Massachusetts senator accused the president of "arrogant boasting" to hide bitter truths about a war waged on his command. He cited a published report saying the top general in Iraq had warned Pentagon officials last winter about a shortage of supplies.
If anything, Democratic running mate John Edwards was harsher. Bush is trying to "con the American people into believing that he is the only one who can fight and win the war on terrorism," said the North Carolina senator.
Little more than two weeks before Election Day, the national polls showed a tight race. The two rivals are tied statistically in some and Bush holds a slender advantage in others. Yet several recent surveys show the president beneath 50 percent support, often a late-campaign sign of difficulty for any incumbent.
Aides to both candidates claimed to possess private polls showing their man ahead in the dozen battleground states that will determine the outcome of the election.
Florida was prominent among them. There, the first difficulties surfaced soon after early voting opened in the state whose recount reached the Supreme Court four years ago before propelling Bush to the White House.
"This is not a good start," said Democratic State Rep. Shelley Vana, adding that the paper ballot she received in a Palm Beach County polling place was missing a page.
There were a few computer-related problems elsewhere across the state, but no early reports of difficulties with ATM-like touch-screen voting machines introduced since the troubled 2000 election. "It tells you exactly what to do. It's idiot-proof," said Robin Punches, voting in Palm Beach County.
In another early-voting state, Bush's parents, former President George H.W. Bush and his wife, Barbara, cast early ballots for their son in Texas during the day.
Kerry spent his day in Florida, urging supporters to vote early at each stop. Bush had appearances in the state Monday night and Tuesday, part of an effort to motivate his backers to cast early ballots as well.
Bush put the powers of incumbency on display during the day, signing legislation at the White House to finance the Department of Homeland Security before flying off for a speech on terrorism in New Jersey.
Along the way, he accused his rival of "shameless scare tactics." In an Associated Press interview aboard Air Force One, Bush said Kerry is "trying to scare our seniors" with false charges of a secret Republican plan to privatize Social Security.
He also faulted Kerry for telling younger Americans there will be a return to the military draft - an option Bush has repeatedly and emphatically ruled out.
The president's speech in Marlton, N.J., was an indictment of Kerry's position on the war in Iraq, delivered in a state that felt firsthand the loss of life at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, and last voted for a Republican presidential candidate in 1988.
"The senator from Massachusetts has now flip-flopped his way to a dangerous position ... a strategy of retreat," Bush said. "He has talked about artificial timetables to pull our troops out of Iraq. He has sent the signal that America's overriding goal in Iraq would be to leave, even if the job is not done."
He added that while "America does the hard work of fighting terror and spreading freedom, he has chosen the easy path of protest and defeatism."
Kerry aide Michael McCurry called Bush's speech "arguably his strongest negative attack to date," and said the Democratic senator was "going to be rebutting that very aggressively" in the next two or three days.
Kerry rebutted by citing Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the former top general of U.S. forces in Iraq. Referring to a report in The Washington Post, Kerry said that the day after Sanchez warned Pentagon superiors about supply problems, "George Bush went out and told the American people our troops were properly equipped."
"Despite the president's arrogant boasting that he has done everything right in Iraq and that he's made no mistakes, the truth is beginning to catch up with him," Kerry said. "And it's a bitter truth, my friends."
Bush and Kerry both buttressed their campaigns with fresh commercials on the issue of the war.
"John Kerry and his liberal allies ... are they a risk we can afford to take?" asks Bush's ad.
Kerry's spot shows images of violence in an attempt to undercut Bush's claims of effective wartime leadership. "In Iraq, American troops are attacked 87 times a day," it says. "At home, the Bush administration has acquired just 530 doses of licensed anthrax vaccine for America's civilian population."
A shortage of flu vaccine also became grist for the campaign during the day.
"The administration was warned about the shortage of flu vaccines three years ago, and they didn't act," Kerry said during a speech that was a broad condemnation of Bush's health care policies.
"We'll crack down on the price-gouging that's putting vaccines out of reach for people who need them today."
Vice President Dick Cheney, campaigning in West Virginia, blamed the threat of lawsuits and limited company profits for the shortage. The Republican also argued that the presidential ticket of Kerry and Edwards - two lawyers - would thwart medical liability reform.
"I'm sorry that this is becoming a political issue. This is a health issue," said Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control, in an interview on CNN.
British regulators recently shut down shipments from Chiron Corp. (CHIR), cutting the U.S. supply of flu shots almost in half.
And most of the problems are coming from Democratic controlled areas.
Republicans threw out the first lawsuit in Minnesota.
The Secretary of State, Republican has trained more than 50 "observers" to lurk around the polling places for anything that looks out of line.
They better not be looking over my shoulder.
Rick,
My previous post was in reference to Florida only. It's the same counties that had problems in 2000.
Gore V. The Military Vote was a good one, eh libs?
They better not be looking over my shoulder.
Why? How many ballots are you filling out?
Seriously though, what is wrong with people being there to observe what is going on? You will still have privacy to fill out your ballot, but it is what happens to those ballots before and after you vote and if there is any people committing fraud and such that is being observed. I would think that you would be for such observers to keep the election fair. I mean if people like Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Michael Jordan and George Foreman can be registered in Ohio, who knows what the Dems will try here. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041019/D85QG8S80.html
[Edited by on Oct 19, 2004 at 05:53pm.]
I wouldn't matter if Mary Poppins was voting in Ohio, they have removed Kerry's name from the ballot anyway.
who's observing the observers?
they have
removed Kerry's name
from the ballot anyway
From your link:
This Tim guy must be a nasty Republican trying to get Kerry off the ballot, right?
That bastard is deep undercover isn't he?
who's observing the observers?
The real question is who is observing those that are observing the observers?
it appears that the good old USA is having more trouble with having an election than a country that needed liberated and is occupied in the midst of a warzone.
[Edited by molegrass on Oct 19, 2004 at 07:31pm.]
"Seriously though, what is wrong with people being there to observe what is going on?'
Depends. Are they people who miss their days as Hall Monitors in elementary school?
"Hey, pal, You talk kinda funny. You got some papers to show me"
[Edited by on Oct 19, 2004 at 07:39pm.]
It isn't the counties that they are worried about.
I am not in here for anything other than fun, watching dudes like you make ignorant statements. Keep making them, and I'll keep having my fun.
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SO YOU ARE ADMITTING YOUR JUST A TROLL???
keep on him, kitch.
Are you drunk or pregnant today?
it appears that the good old USA is having more trouble with having an election than a country that needed liberated and is occupied in the midst of a warzone.
hey bodine, it's okay to spelling out fucking bullshit and son of a bitch here if you want.
I mean, if you are gonna say it, just go ahead and say it.
Are you ashamed of saying it or something?
Just because you didn't spell it out doesn't mean you didn't say it. EIther censor yourself or don't. This saying it shorthand and thinking it's not saying it is what is bullshit.
[Edited by molegrass on Oct 20, 2004 at 09:10am.]
hey bodine, it's okay to spelling out fucking bullshit and son of a bitch here if you want. I'll do it my way jack a$$. Who the hell do you think you are?
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Someone who can see when someone has been made to feel guilty about "cursing", but has to anyway, so they think if they psuedo-censor it, their guilt won't bother them.
You curse like some old school marm, bodine
Someone who can see when someone has been made to feel guilty about "cursing", but has to anyway, so they think if they psuedo-censor it, their guilt won't bother them.
No dumb sh**, some people like censoring and I like to accommodate them. Also, when we were at the pioneer planet we were banned for using the complete words.
[Edited by on Oct 20, 2004 at 10:31am.]
Also, when we were at the pioneer planet we were banned for using the complete words.
the pioneer planet, this ain't jethro.
habits can be hard to break.
maybe he's just wanting to protect his ass at where he works.....some companies record keystrokes and look for shit like that.
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hmmm...maybe mine is doing that right now....damn
but it isn't censoring, you are still saying what you are saying.
it's psuedo-censoring.
it's psuedo-censoring.
Wolvie, don't you think they would have problems in THOSE areas? I mean, why try to RIG the election in counties that are already ON your team...???
I mean, seriously...
The Democrats control and run how the elections are done in those counties. Exactly how can a Republican rig it? Sounds to me like the Democrats in those counties are just inept and should have been replaced after the last election.
Casualties? --- Whattayatalkinabout?
"Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.
"Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "
A gracious Mike McCurry
"We believe President Bush should get the benefit of the doubt here," Kerry spokesman Mike McCurry said in a news release.
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Oct 20, 2004 at 04:41pm.]
Jethro wants to say it his way. So what! Who are you to say, crabhole?
"Quit talking to me crabgrass" - Torpedo-8
Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.
"Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "
It is official Rick will believe anythingnegative that is said about Bush even outright and obvious lies.
I don't know what Robertson said. I know what Bush was been accused of saying is preposterous.
You will believe anything negative the press says about Bush. It is preposterous that he said there would be no casualties.
In the interview, Robertson also said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made. "I mean, the Lord told meit was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "I warned him about casualties."
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The Lord told me to these freaking humans are crazy. He told me they are ddddddddd disaster and mmmmmmm messy. The Lord almighty is telling mighty truth.
Does Pat dial 10-10-987 1-800-mighty-Lord? I guess Pat's Lord told Bush sum tame ago dat he wus gonna be da President by cheating in Florida, eh?
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Good, Lord Almighty!!!
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