"Crabby, Quit talking to Torp when you say you're not talking to him but you really are" - JT
I just post his own words to keep reminding him that he doesn't want me to talk to him...every time he tried to talk to or about me. I've had to do it hundreds of times.
I haven't said anything one way or the other about my talking or not talking to him.
All I'm doing is quoting him back to him. He apparently doesn't remember that he doesn't want me to talk to him very well, so I have to keep reminding him. I've actually honored his wish (even though I don't have to. He doesn't get to decide who I talk to. I'll talk to whoever I fucking well please. That's why I don't tell people to not talk to me or to shut the fuck up, unlike some others I know. If I did and then kept trying to talk to them, that would sort of make me a hypocrite, now wouldn't it?). I think he's on drugs or something. Short term memory loss don't you know.
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by molegrass on Oct 18, 2004 at 09:50am.]
Peter Vento admits he parlayed a well-known name in Fourth District politics -- his late father Bruce's -- to defeat Maplewood Mayor Bob Cardinal easily in the Independence Party primary last month.
"I didn't campaign, press the flesh or do the typical things politicans do," said Vento, 42. "Frankly, it was name recognition, and other politicians have used their fathers' names. Look at our president right now."
Peter Vento says his entry in the congressional race against two-term DFLer Betty McCollum and Republican Patrice Bataglia would prompt pride from his father, who served in the U.S. House from 1978 until his death in 2000.
Court documents make it clear that Peter Vento's relations with the family have been contentious. In March, Bruce Vento's parents, both in their 80s, asked for a harassment restraining order against their grandson, Peter, who has waged a bitter battle over his father's estate.
According to court affidavits, Frank and Ann Vento went to visit Bruce's grave at Forest Lawn Cemetery last Valentine's Day. They found a letter on the grave from Peter, laced with obscenities, calling the Vento family a "lying group of thieves," among other things.
The Ventos accused Peter of desecrating Bruce's grave, slandering their dead son and causing them to fear for their safety. A similar harassment order has been filed against Peter by Susan Vento, Bruce's widow. In 2001, she contends in court documents, Peter screamed at her at a public event honoring Bruce's contribution to a new trail along the Mississippi River.
In an interview at an antique shop Peter runs along W. 7th Street in St. Paul, he insisted his father "would be proud that I'm sticking up for myself."
"I'm sane. I do see a therapist, and they told me that I'm not crazy. Some of my behavior in the past maybe has been, but people didn't understand where I was coming from."
He acknowledges he's been a lifelong DFLer and plans to vote for Sen. John Kerry for president, but has no qualms running as an independent.
"The DFL did right by him, but now it's time for different ideas," he said. "Things evolve and change. I decided I wanted to run for office and that's my prerogative. I think there's a lot of things wrong with this country that need fixing."
Lifting the statute of limitations on sexual-abuse cases and opening trade with Cuba are among issues he'd address if he defeats McCollum and Bataglia.
Asked if his candidacy might funnel some votes away from McCollum, who was endorsed by his father before he died, Vento shrugged.
"I guess the Vento name might hurt Betty, but that's not my problem," he said. "If Betty can't get enough votes to win, that's her deal, not my deal. I'm running for me."
"Bruce Springsteen, the Asbury Park, NJ, rock music provider, once commented that there was a double standard for entertainers who ventured into politics "'If you're a business guy,"' he said. no one tells you to "'shut up and do business (and) stay out of public policy. If you're a big corporation, you influence government your way, right?'
Hey, you might think that his UNREPORTED and UNCERIMONEOUSLY SIGNED newTax Law that INCREASES the burden on the rest of us is just fine, but you SAY the opposite, often.
That was certainly bullshit... strange. Gdubbya LIKES sending American workers(jobs) OUT of the U. S.
Seems it's OK with you too...
Yea G'Dubbya loves sending jobs out of the U.S...yea that's it. Pffttt.
What you're missing is that that one of the reasons these companies are leaving is because of taxes and he's trying to give them reason to stay. If they leave we not only lose any corporate tax we get from them but the jobs and taxes paid by workers not to mention the loss of income on the local economies. Screw it, tax the hell out of them and then when they head to Mexico you can complain some more that evil Bushco loves sending jobs out of the U.S
Well if Kerry is up an average of 3.0 in Michigan that's it folks. This is a state Kerry should have wrapped up months ago. He's still there. If it's tight there he's in trouble.
What you're missing is that that one of the reasons these companies are leaving is because of taxes
bull
shit
they do it because they don't have to pay the employees as much in india as they do here in the us. if the companies were leaving, they'd be packing up corporate offices and heading overseas as well. they aren't, and as a result are still suibject to the american tax system. the only thing that's going overseas is the labor.
First of all I said it was one of the reasons, labor is one of them, that wasn't the topic, we can discuss it if you'd like unless you just want to scream bullshit again. And secondly if a company relocates it's corporate offices etc. they aren't. ever hear of the Cayman Islands? So taxes has nothing to do with why a company would leave? O.K
I also think it is a scream that you are still supporting the guy in the White House, in spite of the fact that his policies are costing us LIVES, each and every day, because of STUPID ERRORS IN LEADERSHIP, and JUDGEMENT...especially in IRAQ.
I have no doubt if it were a democrat in the White House under the same circumstances you would becalling him brilliant. You do know, fold, that Kerry says he will carry out the same policy "only better." Whatever that means.
That jethro, is a LIE.
No, it is the truth in any case you are not in any position to dispute it. And, fold, I don't lie.
There isn't a Marine(capital letter) alive, that is pussy enough for you to beat up.
Let me tell you the asshole came home on leave and thought he was tough stuff because he got through basic. He was treating people like shit and I wouldn't have any of it.
I knew a newspaper editor who was a Marine in Vietnam. That guy had major issues. I thought he'd look across his newsroom one day and see Charlie behind every computer terminal.
It was said he used to talk about women in a really dark way. A couple of his reporters attributed it to Marine training.
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aWell it's not in the "official" training. ;) The Marines are like any other organization where a large segment of the population is represented. Views differ greatly on every aspect of life. Mostly it's due to being young men far away from home. When you're young it's all you think about. Then add in not seeing a woman for months at a time and splash it with alchohol and it's like gas on a fire.
And Jethro.
It's a really bad idea to pick a fight with a Marine :)
I certainly don't think there was official Marine policy, but from what I remember (and this is second and third hand) that there was an implied attitude among some of them that women made men weak.
It's probably just bravado, warrior talk.
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I don't know where that comes from because the only thing that was ever hammered into us as far as women were concerned was to stay away from, ahem, A woman named Suzie :|)
I just post his own words to keep reminding him that he doesn't want me to talk to him...every time he tried to talk to or about me. I've had to do it hundreds of times.
I haven't said anything one way or the other about my talking or not talking to him.
All I'm doing is quoting him back to him. He apparently doesn't remember that he doesn't want me to talk to him very well, so I have to keep reminding him. I've actually honored his wish (even though I don't have to. He doesn't get to decide who I talk to. I'll talk to whoever I fucking well please. That's why I don't tell people to not talk to me or to shut the fuck up, unlike some others I know. If I did and then kept trying to talk to them, that would sort of make me a hypocrite, now wouldn't it?). I think he's on drugs or something. Short term memory loss don't you know.
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by molegrass on Oct 18, 2004 at 09:50am.]
You just put too much effort into it.
Too much effort into what?
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Heh, all i have to do say LWW and crabhole chimes in whether it was for him or not. He keeps talking to me for some reason.
It's just weird.
"Quit talking to me" - Torpedo-8
Keillor's brother didn't like Homegrown Democrat
But his explanation is incoherent.
[Edited by on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:33am.]
I have to agree. With the exception of one ad, his ads have been horrible.
Any incumbent should easily be able to beat Wetterling without the nasty ads.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5029756.html
I'm still ROFLMAO!!!!
Independence carries the Vento name in the 4th
Curt Brown,Â
Star Tribune
October 13, 2004
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Peter Vento admits he parlayed a well-known name in Fourth District politics -- his late father Bruce's -- to defeat Maplewood Mayor Bob Cardinal easily in the Independence Party primary last month.
"I didn't campaign, press the flesh or do the typical things politicans do," said Vento, 42. "Frankly, it was name recognition, and other politicians have used their fathers' names. Look at our president right now."
Peter Vento says his entry in the congressional race against two-term DFLer Betty McCollum and Republican Patrice Bataglia would prompt pride from his father, who served in the U.S. House from 1978 until his death in 2000.
Court documents make it clear that Peter Vento's relations with the family have been contentious. In March, Bruce Vento's parents, both in their 80s, asked for a harassment restraining order against their grandson, Peter, who has waged a bitter battle over his father's estate.
According to court affidavits, Frank and Ann Vento went to visit Bruce's grave at Forest Lawn Cemetery last Valentine's Day. They found a letter on the grave from Peter, laced with obscenities, calling the Vento family a "lying group of thieves," among other things.
The Ventos accused Peter of desecrating Bruce's grave, slandering their dead son and causing them to fear for their safety. A similar harassment order has been filed against Peter by Susan Vento, Bruce's widow. In 2001, she contends in court documents, Peter screamed at her at a public event honoring Bruce's contribution to a new trail along the Mississippi River.
In an interview at an antique shop Peter runs along W. 7th Street in St. Paul, he insisted his father "would be proud that I'm sticking up for myself."
"I'm sane. I do see a therapist, and they told me that I'm not crazy. Some of my behavior in the past maybe has been, but people didn't understand where I was coming from."
He acknowledges he's been a lifelong DFLer and plans to vote for Sen. John Kerry for president, but has no qualms running as an independent.
"The DFL did right by him, but now it's time for different ideas," he said. "Things evolve and change. I decided I wanted to run for office and that's my prerogative. I think there's a lot of things wrong with this country that need fixing."
Lifting the statute of limitations on sexual-abuse cases and opening trade with Cuba are among issues he'd address if he defeats McCollum and Bataglia.
Asked if his candidacy might funnel some votes away from McCollum, who was endorsed by his father before he died, Vento shrugged.
"I guess the Vento name might hurt Betty, but that's not my problem," he said. "If Betty can't get enough votes to win, that's her deal, not my deal. I'm running for me."
Curt Brown is at curt.brown@startribune.com.
awww crap...I gotta take him off my "ignore" list for those posts...i'm interested in what he's got to say.....
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I hope its funny
Don't do it Kitch thats what it wants.
NICE...NICE
Might have something.....thank god I was born outta state....
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bill-fold
If I throw a stick, will you leave?
No kitch that makes him come back LOL.
I wonder if BIll's got the same therapist as Peter??
[Edited by on Oct 22, 2004 at 07:30am.]
I'm not saying that his old man was good or bad...heck I don't care....
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but His son is a looking like a real joke....
What schedule is that, fold? The one where you haven't worked in decades???
In today's Wall Street Journal:
"Bruce Springsteen, the Asbury Park, NJ, rock music provider, once commented that there was a double standard for entertainers who ventured into politics "'If you're a business guy,"' he said. no one tells you to "'shut up and do business (and) stay out of public policy. If you're a big corporation, you influence government your way, right?'
"Exactly, so, Boss."
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Too bad the libs see it that way.
Yea what a tragedy that they've had elections for the first time in 4,000 years.
'Bill - Fold' 10/26/04 5:16am
You're right Bill, we should tax business more, then we can all scratch our heads and wonder why they move out of the country tax the hell out of em'.
It wasn't perfect nothing is.
Hey, you might think that his UNREPORTED and UNCERIMONEOUSLY SIGNED newTax Law that INCREASES the burden on the rest of us is just fine, but you SAY the opposite, often.
Yea what a tragedy that they've had elections for the first time in 4,000 years.
Oh Geez, how does one complain about a country having it's first election?
Pathetic
[Edited by on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:56am.]
Hey, with Michigan now giving Kerry a TEN POINTlead... Soon he won't have to siugn anything except hischeckbook.
I want in on that!
We've all seen Bill Fold's predictions.
[Edited by on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:57am.]
That was certainly bullshit... strange. Gdubbya LIKES sending American workers(jobs) OUT of the U. S.
Seems it's OK with you too...
Yea G'Dubbya loves sending jobs out of the U.S...yea that's it. Pffttt.
What you're missing is that that one of the reasons these companies are leaving is because of taxes and he's trying to give them reason to stay. If they leave we not only lose any corporate tax we get from them but the jobs and taxes paid by workers not to mention the loss of income on the local economies. Screw it, tax the hell out of them and then when they head to Mexico you can complain some more that evil Bushco loves sending jobs out of the U.S
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Care to look for yourself, first?
Bet someone else.
Well if you're so sure.........
RCP Average | 10/15 - 10/25
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44.8
48.7
1.0
Kerry +3.9
Zogby | 10/22-10/25
601 LV
4.1
43
52
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Kerry +9
Rasmussen | 10/17-10/23
561 LV
5.0
46
51
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Kerry +5
Detroit News | 10/19-21
601 LV
4.0
47
42
1
Bush +5
EPIC/MRA | 10/18-10/21
610 LV
4.0
43
49
1
Kerry +6
Survey USA | 10/18-10/20
668 LV
3.9
44
51
-
Kerry +7
Mason-Dixon | 10/15-10/18
625 LV
4.0
46
47
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Kerry +1
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Well if Kerry is up an average of 3.0 in Michigan that's it folks. This is a state Kerry should have wrapped up months ago. He's still there. If it's tight there he's in trouble.
You are truly diluded.
What you're missing is that that one of the reasons these companies are leaving is because of taxes
bull
shit
they do it because they don't have to pay the employees as much in india as they do here in the us. if the companies were leaving, they'd be packing up corporate offices and heading overseas as well. they aren't, and as a result are still suibject to the american tax system. the only thing that's going overseas is the labor.
Ares,
First of all I said it was one of the reasons, labor is one of them, that wasn't the topic, we can discuss it if you'd like unless you just want to scream bullshit again. And secondly if a company relocates it's corporate offices etc. they aren't. ever hear of the Cayman Islands? So taxes has nothing to do with why a company would leave? O.K
7K JOEÂ !
[Edited by on Oct 26, 2004 at 06:44am.]
I don't think anyone is "Screaming", but I am most certainly HAPPYthat it now appears that Kerry will WIN.
Care to make a bet?
It's up to you. If you want to bet Kerry wins I'll leave the amount up to you. $20.00 at least ?
So you're not willing to bet on the actual outcome? Just the appearance he might. O.K
I also think it is a scream that you are still supporting the guy in the White House, in spite of the fact that his policies are costing us LIVES, each and every day, because of STUPID ERRORS IN LEADERSHIP, and JUDGEMENT...especially in IRAQ.
I have no doubt if it were a democrat in the White House under the same circumstances you would becalling him brilliant. You do know, fold, that Kerry says he will carry out the same policy "only better." Whatever that means.
Excuse me, Jethro, I was speaking to a Marine.
I beat up a marine once. Those were the days.
Don't you have to discover something first before you can discover it is gone?
That jethro, is a LIE.
No, it is the truth in any case you are not in any position to dispute it. And, fold, I don't lie.
There isn't a Marine(capital letter) alive, that is pussy enough for you to beat up.
Let me tell you the asshole came home on leave and thought he was tough stuff because he got through basic. He was treating people like shit and I wouldn't have any of it.
so you assaulted him?
How did the fight get started, jethro?
How did the fight get started, jethro?
The continuing saga of Fold's wonderful outlook.
Didja call him a jarhead?
rick, he said the marine was grabbing on a girl, not on him. :)
one has to wonder how many beers jethro had in him at the time.
[Edited by on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:07am.]
I knew a newspaper editor who was a Marine in Vietnam. That guy had major issues. I thought he'd look across his newsroom one day and see Charlie behind every computer terminal.
It was said he used to talk about women in a really dark way. A couple of his reporters attributed it to Marine training.
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:14am.]
aWell it's not in the "official" training. ;) The Marines are like any other organization where a large segment of the population is represented. Views differ greatly on every aspect of life. Mostly it's due to being young men far away from home. When you're young it's all you think about. Then add in not seeing a woman for months at a time and splash it with alchohol and it's like gas on a fire.
And Jethro.
It's a really bad idea to pick a fight with a Marine :)
[Edited by on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:23am.]
I certainly don't think there was official Marine policy, but from what I remember (and this is second and third hand) that there was an implied attitude among some of them that women made men weak.
It's probably just bravado, warrior talk.
[Edited 6 times. Most recently by on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:33am.]
I don't know where that comes from because the only thing that was ever hammered into us as far as women were concerned was to stay away from, ahem, A woman named Suzie :|)