Science accepts new facts as they arise.
Yes but you know there is a great possibility that new facts will arise yet you doggedly cling to what is known now.
That is open-mindedness. No that is limiting one's mind to things that it may not be able to grasp although they may well exist.
You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledgefacts as they areand the continued lackof facts concerning your stated claims. What facts do I fail to acknowledge?
Youasked us to tell the "God" dude our views,- youneed to tell us where to meet him in person.
No idea ?
Again more proof of your closed mind. Where do you get that sealant? It is really good stuff.
What is FACT for nowis TRUE for now and forever.
what you believe to be fact may not be so. God may be a fact whether you know it or not.
Under normal temperture and pressure, Fire melts icecubes. That is a fact now and forever. it is all relative to the conditions. you have learned nothing. You think you know it all but there is so much you do not.
OTOH, a persistent lackof facts regarding your claimsnecessitates discarding them UNLESS you have factsto prove otherwise. Then you risk missing a lot.
There has neverbeen an observed FACT that proves a green goblin called "God" exists. Look around you. the chances are that something created what you see. something created the facts that you so cling to so dearly.
That lackof Fact persists. No there is plenty of fact
Unless you have factsto prove otherwise, there is no reasonto ACCEPT ( at this point in time ) that the green goblin called "God" dude exists. An arrogant person would so conclude.
Factsare observable by sensory data and conceivable by the mind. Fictionsare not.
just becuase you can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. dogs hear sounds you can't.
Is your "God" dude observable? yes he is just not under the terms you wish to limit yourself to.
If not, it is simply a fictitious figment of your crazed imagination. You are so certain of things. but people once thought the world was flat. At one time people thought the atom was the smallest particle of matter. Open your eyes and your heart you may see some things that you deny.
If he cannot show himself under OBSERVABLEÂ human sensory range, this "God" dude is notomnipotent.
It is not a question of cannot but will not. Of course, God could impose his will on you if he so chose. But here is a fact for you spock. You refuse to believe. You refuse to consider the possibility that there is a God. Fine. You have been given free will that allows you to do so. But there is no point discussing the matter because you have rejected it out of hand. Now, just like crabs you go on ignore, not becuase of intolerance on my part but simply because you are a waste of time.
Last night, on the History Channel, I watched a long show about Alexander the Great. It was pretty interesting. He died pretty young, only 32; but by the time he died, he had conquered much of Asia.
He would visit the Oracle at Delphi, Greece, in search of his identity. He wanted to know whether he was a man, or god conceived by Zeus. He was also a student of Egyptian religion.
he offers logical scrutiny no he doesn't. he doesn't believe because he doesn't want to. or it could be his soul is so scarred that it can't get through to him. he puts way to much faith in the mind of man.
something that apparently makes you run away with your tail between your legs you people, at one time, were a source of amusement with all your hate filled rants against Christianity. But I am tired of it now. You offer nothing on this topic just like crabs and spock. adios May God forgive you.
The way he is shooting breeze and scurrying after tucking his tail between his webbed feet, the fundamentalist looney-toon loose-nut pathetic excuse for a true Christian - jethro - is now left jamming his index fingers in his ears, and speaking gobbledegook to green goblins and pink elephants in his maniacal drooling daydreams of biblical proportions. :)
Let him wallow in his cesspool of close-minded bigotry.
I can see that the closed minded, arrogant individuals that have no purpose other than to mock and belittle something they cannot comprehend are still at it. But it is good not to be subjected to the hatred.Â
"jethro bodine - ( PFID:efa8556) - 10:27am Nov 9, 2004 PST (# 1635 of 1638) Hillary Clinton: John Kerry without the charm!
II can see that the closed minded, arrogant individuals that have no purpose other than to mock and belittle something they cannot comprehend are still at it. But it is good not to be subjected to the hatred. "
Jethro not ignoring them. He comes over insults them and leaves.
That's not igonoring them. Ignoring someone has some honor.
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You know how it is when you go to be the subject of a psychology experiment,and nobody else shows up, and you think maybe that's part of the experiment?
Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.
I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something like, "Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me?" or "Do you have that $50 you borrowed?" Man, quit being so cheap!
Sounds like you know a lot about the truth and God and all evidence for it. Do you know where Abel and Caine's wives came from? or how Caine suddenly found a lotta people in a no-man's land so that he could marry someone and build a big town to rule?? I am sure you know so much so that you can answer my questions.
so, let's see how open your mind is to other possibilities, bodine.
you think it's possible that there is no God?
you think it's possible that the God you say you believe in is really just a fairy tale written by men in order to control other men?
is your mind open to other possibilities?
Interesting.
Is this "God" dude buried as a fossil somewhere ?
Science accepts new facts as they arise.
That is open-mindedness.
You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledgefacts as they areand the continued lackof facts concerning your stated claims.
That, jethro, is close-mindedness.
Go figure. :)
Is it wrong to ask for directions ? :)
Youasked us to tell the "God" dude our views,- youneed to tell us where to meet him in person.
No idea ?
Thanks for playing. :)
Science accepts new facts as they arise.
Yes but you know there is a great possibility that new facts will arise yet you doggedly cling to what is known now.
That is open-mindedness. No that is limiting one's mind to things that it may not be able to grasp although they may well exist.
You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledgefacts as they areand the continued lackof facts concerning your stated claims. What facts do I fail to acknowledge?
Youasked us to tell the "God" dude our views,- youneed to tell us where to meet him in person.
No idea ?
Again more proof of your closed mind. Where do you get that sealant? It is really good stuff.
You are running a wild goose chase.
What is FACT for nowis TRUE for now and forever.
Under normal temperture and pressure, Fire melts icecubes. That is a fact now and forever.
Fire will never freeze water into ice. Not now, not ever.
Only some
theoriesabout the oldfacts MAYchange IF
new Facts arise that undermine present INTERPRETATION of those oldfacts.
The old facts THEMSELVES won'tchange.
Exactly HOW fire melts ice is a theory that MAY change with NEW facts, but the FACT that fire MELTS ice ITSELF will not change.
OTOH, a persistent lackof facts regarding your claimsnecessitates discarding them UNLESS you have factsto prove otherwise.
There has neverbeen an observed FACT that proves a green goblin called "God" exists.
That lackof Fact persists.
Unless you have factsto prove otherwise, there is no reasonto ACCEPT ( at this point in time ) that the green goblin called "God" dude exists.
Go figure. :)
The Pink Elephant on the Dark Side of Uranus may also exist, but your mind may not be able to grasp it.
Factsare observable by sensory data and conceivable by the mind. Fictionsare not.
Is your "God" dude observable?
If not, it is simply a fictitious figment of your crazed imagination.
Thanks for playing. :)
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What is FACT for nowis TRUE for now and forever.
what you believe to be fact may not be so. God may be a fact whether you know it or not.
Under normal temperture and pressure, Fire melts icecubes. That is a fact now and forever. it is all relative to the conditions. you have learned nothing. You think you know it all but there is so much you do not.
OTOH, a persistent lackof facts regarding your claimsnecessitates discarding them UNLESS you have factsto prove otherwise. Then you risk missing a lot.
There has neverbeen an observed FACT that proves a green goblin called "God" exists. Look around you. the chances are that something created what you see. something created the facts that you so cling to so dearly.
That lackof Fact persists. No there is plenty of fact
Unless you have factsto prove otherwise, there is no reasonto ACCEPT ( at this point in time ) that the green goblin called "God" dude exists. An arrogant person would so conclude.
Factsare observable by sensory data and conceivable by the mind. Fictionsare not.
just becuase you can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. dogs hear sounds you can't.
Is your "God" dude observable? yes he is just not under the terms you wish to limit yourself to.
If not, it is simply a fictitious figment of your crazed imagination. You are so certain of things. but people once thought the world was flat. At one time people thought the atom was the smallest particle of matter. Open your eyes and your heart you may see some things that you deny.
sounds like bodine has doubts
That's preciselywhat we want, jethro.
Give us some facts, not fiction and imagination.
I want to meet this "God" dude in person. Show him to me! :)
I risk missing a lot by not coveting my neighbour's buxom wife, or not having a lap dance from a stripper.
So what ?
There are electromechanical devices that extendmy sensory apparatus.
I canhear sounds that dogs hear. Science hasmade it possible.
That's the problem, jethro.
If he cannot show himself under OBSERVABLEÂ human sensory range, this "God" dude is notomnipotent.
And, scientifically, there is a persistent
lackof facts to prove that the green goblin called "God" exists.
QED.
There is a difference between somethingand someone.
Is it necessarythat "someone" create Facts ?
Then whocreated this "God" dude ? :)
If you say "God" doesn't need to be created, why is it necessaryfor FACTS to be "created" by this fictional villain called "God" ? :)
Is "God" nota FACT as well ? :)
[Edited by on Nov 8, 2004 at 09:43am.]
If he cannot show himself under OBSERVABLEÂ human sensory range, this "God" dude is notomnipotent.
It is not a question of cannot but will not. Of course, God could impose his will on you if he so chose. But here is a fact for you spock. You refuse to believe. You refuse to consider the possibility that there is a God. Fine. You have been given free will that allows you to do so. But there is no point discussing the matter because you have rejected it out of hand. Now, just like crabs you go on ignore, not becuase of intolerance on my part but simply because you are a waste of time.
[Edited by on Nov 8, 2004 at 09:47am.]
believe is to fairy tale as know is to fact.
Of course I can fly to Uranus on a Maple Leaf if I so choose, but will not.
Of course I could have had an orgy with Keira Knightley, Beyonce Knowles, Alicia Rio and Britney Spears if I so chose, but did not.
Aren't I omnipotent ?
I refuse to be brainwashed.
I am open to allpossibilities.
And I simply SEEKevidence before I accept anyclaim.
You are closed to ALL OTHER possibilities except that in which you believe WITHOUT evidence.
And you simply DEMANDcompliance from everyone to what youclaim, and cannot provide evidence for.
It is now obvious that youhave the closed mind and heart, and a fanatic intolerance and bigotry matching your ignorance.
No wonder you folded, and decided to run with your tail between your legs.
Thanks for playing. :)
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sticking your fingers in your ears doesn't make you any more right, jethro
That's more like it.
Jethro the irrational fundamentalist maniac down the gutter.
My job is done. :)
excellent work
sticking your fingers in your ears doesn't make you any more right, jethro
when did I say that?
you were just logically bitchslapped by Spock, and you proceeded to curl up in the turtle position
you're owned
and DUMon actually does know alot about being owned.
Uh huh huh huh.
Mr Spock said Ur-anus.
Uh huh huh huh.
I do, Torpid, I own you on an hourly basis
Last night, on the History Channel, I watched a long show about Alexander the Great. It was pretty interesting. He died pretty young, only 32; but by the time he died, he had conquered much of Asia.
He would visit the Oracle at Delphi, Greece, in search of his identity. He wanted to know whether he was a man, or god conceived by Zeus. He was also a student of Egyptian religion.
you were just logically bitchslapped by Spock, and you proceeded to curl up in the turtle position
well, demon, we all have our fantasies. most have an element of reality, yours doesn't.Â
why don't you let us all know how scared of spock you are by posting that you have him on ignore again?
why don't you let us all know how scared of spock you are by posting that you have him on ignore again?
he offers logical scrutiny
something that apparently makes you run away with your tail between your legs
he offers logical scrutiny no he doesn't. he doesn't believe because he doesn't want to. or it could be his soul is so scarred that it can't get through to him. he puts way to much faith in the mind of man.
something that apparently makes you run away with your tail between your legs you people, at one time, were a source of amusement with all your hate filled rants against Christianity. But I am tired of it now. You offer nothing on this topic just like crabs and spock. adios May God forgive you.
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yay! I win!
Good! You win. Now get the fuck out of here.
as soon as I see you actually offer something of consequence to debate that I agree with, maybe I will
Strike three. :)
The way he is shooting breeze and scurrying after tucking his tail between his webbed feet, the fundamentalist looney-toon loose-nut pathetic excuse for a true Christian - jethro - is now left jamming his index fingers in his ears, and speaking gobbledegook to green goblins and pink elephants in his maniacal drooling daydreams of biblical proportions. :)
Let him wallow in his cesspool of close-minded bigotry.
I so much enjoy the meltdown o closed minded bigotry
I can see that the closed minded, arrogant individuals that have no purpose other than to mock and belittle something they cannot comprehend are still at it. But it is good not to be subjected to the hatred.Â
[Edited by on Nov 9, 2004 at 10:28am.]
you aren't fooling anyone, you don't have either of us on ignore
He has both of you on ignore.
I'd have you on ignore if I wasn't running this thread.
"jethro bodine - ( PFID:efa8556) - 10:27am Nov 9, 2004 PST (# 1635 of 1638)
Hillary Clinton: John Kerry without the charm!
II can see that the closed minded, arrogant individuals that have no purpose other than to mock and belittle something they cannot comprehend are still at it. But it is good not to be subjected to the hatred. "
Jethro not ignoring them. He comes over insults them and leaves.
That's not igonoring them. Ignoring someone has some honor.
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That's not igonoring them. Ignoring someone has some honor.
I can't disagree with you there.
THX is apparently still bitter over past beatings
poor, bloodied THX
What are you talking about?
the logical scars I've given you that have never fully healed
it's ok, let it all out
Whatever gets you through the night.
I'm not the one in need of psychological healing
And, when the doctor said I didn't have worms any more, that was the happiest day of my life.
Thanks for the tag THX
You know how it is when you go to be the subject of a psychology experiment,and nobody else shows up, and you think maybe that's part of the experiment?
I'm like that all the time.
Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.
I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something like, "Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me?" or "Do you have that $50 you borrowed?" Man, quit being so cheap!
LOL!!
Stephen Wright?
heh
Hey Jethro Bodine
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Sounds like you know a lot about the truth and God and all evidence for it. Do you know where Abel and Caine's wives came from? or how Caine suddenly found a lotta people in a no-man's land so that he could marry someone and build a big town to rule?? I am sure you know so much so that you can answer my questions.
Â
People of faith don't fight but just answer simple questions so that some of us may get convinced if proper answers are given.