It's time for the Medallion Hunt! The first clue will appear on PioneerPlanet just after midnight Saturday, Jan. 22. Come back here to compare notes with other treasure seekers, but be certain you read the rules on the Planet's Winter Carnival page.
Just some more facts #3 9,5,4, were not adorn the front door they were on a separate wall on the house? #8 you could not see the sunray peaks from the treasure
spot. #11the hockey rinks were not even close to the same size,& their was no ice at the treasure spot. I'm very disapointed with the news paper&how they came
I think we're all tired, I know I survived on miraculously little sleep the past ten days, because I now realize I was over-analyzing every clue! It's sad. I hope next year they do the hunt justice and someone finds it who is really searching.
Has anyone discussed the rumor that the PP just went and threw it in the tree on the last day? How is it possible that tree was missed by the horde?
You know, the media has shown up at the dig site just about every year that I can remember - and I've been digging for 29 years....and once the media was covering people who were at the wrong park! I think there has been more people aware of it this year because of the extra money.
We spend lots of time tearing apart clues and trying to find hidden meanings. In the end the trick is to find the right park, make sure you see everything you are supposed to see, pay attention to anything the clues didn't mention so that some obvious park fixture is not very visible and dig. It has worked that way since the beginning of the hunt. Nothing is different this year. It is the luck of the shovel.
Or that the Med. was actually buried at Conway and the PP dug it up and threw it in a tree? There were NO CLUES on it being in a tree, not like previous years. Oh well, c'est la vie, I guess.
Leah - Don't believe everything you hear. The medallion finder said it was in the snow. You can hear the audio yourself from the Pioneer Planet front page.
The only park I saw on the news was Como. They kept showing these poor misled people thinking they would find it there. That was tuesday while the rest of the world was in Conway. Next year when the prize is back to normal fewer people will be out. I can't wait!!!!
Hey, how about a conspiracy theory? The medallion really was hidden by the north/south running utility poles, but when the PP realized they had misprinted the clue Tuesday night they sent a guy to go get the medallion. Then the next day, they arranged to have it "found". They contacted someone on the WC committe who got her boyfriend to "find" it after making a token appearance in the park. Then they changed the explanations of the clues to say it was the hockey rinks they were talking about, as well as changing some other clues to fit the new spot. Some suspicious facts: 1) Someone on the Winter Carnival Button Committee didn't register their button? 2)The medallion was found along a row of trees just as was mentioned in clue #7, yet the explanation doesn't say anything about it being a double meaning. 3)It was found in a container of clean white yarn after having been buried in snow for at least two weeks. 4) The hockey rinks are not the same size. 5) Clue #12 and its explanation was suspiciously absent in the initial posting of the explanations. 6) It is highly uncharacteristic of them to use something as precise and explicit as an address, even if the numbers were scrambled. Plus, that was the first and most commonly dug up stretch of land in the park. Hmmmm.... Believe what you will.
The thing I was never looking for was the 9 5 and 4 together. It made it sound like the 4 was somewhere away from the 9 and 5. If I knew I was just looking for
some address combo of 954 on the same door it would have made things a helluva lot easier.
Where I was digging the clues made so much sense it was actually a thing of beauty. Where it actually turned up, the whole thing was pretty lame. One would have
expected better in general, but especially this year. Maybe they were at one time.
Call me naive then. Everything that was supposed to be there at that spot was there. You could see everything. I know. We spent the better part of Tuesday digging
around that area.
But if everyone wants to believe in conspiracies, go ahead.
Leah - There are bock (wooden goat) hunts in Winona at Schell's Brewery on the 13th of February and at Fitger's in Duluth during March. We've done the Fitger's
hunt....and other cooler crew members have done the Schell one. Ittiz great fun...and only lasts part of one day.
I gotta go. Need to take care of some things that haven't been taken care of for too long.
I don't give a rat's ass that I didn't find it, or that the Hunt is over. Translucent is not transparent, 459 is not a nine and a five, and somewhere a four, etc. etc. etc.
Here's some more titbits to add to a conspiracy theory, ms wonderland. Yesterday, when i did a search under Aaron Niedorf there were numerous postings under
that name that indicated that he had been hunting for a week or more,but yet in the paper he said he only started this week.And they were almost all mean-spirited
and petty.So today I wanted to look at them again and compare the e-mail address to the posting on the evening of the find from the "nice guy" Aaron. But to my
dismay, THEY ARE ALL GONE!! Could it be that PP doesn't want us to look too close at their new hero? What are the odds of two men hunters with the same
not too common name? There are NONE in th St Paul phone book!
Yes Paul!! I noticed that too, when i went today to read the posts because I heard everyone talking about him--suddenly it is only him on Feb 3rd. people are saying
that someone posed as him, but how could they pre-pose as him, before he even found it???
On Tuesday night at 11:30 when the mad rush began at the hockey rinks I decided I didn't want to fight the crowd so I just wandered around and watched. As I
did, I discovered the hockey rinks weren't at all the same size plus I had a few other problems with them. So I went home and found out the clue had been
misprinted. I figured, of course, because there's no way they could have been talking about the rinks. Then I went back at 5AM without sleeping because I thought I
had figured out the true meaning. I dug for four hours before finally giving up. It annoys me now to think that my whole theory was based on the idea that Clue#11
I believe I was the first person to mention Conway on the net. The first time I went out there, there were a couple of people out there, including The Medallion Kid,
but the kid stopped posting and the other people may not be posters here either. So I wasn't necessarily the first person to figure it out, but I may have been the first
to post. I think I was the first to post the Woodrow Wilson thing too, though again, that doesn't necessarily mean I was first to figure it out. But there is some sense
of victory in that. By the way, WishYouWereHere, I hope you're not flirting because Allison is my last name. David is my first.
I haven't seen anyone produce a map. Maybe they CAN'T! Also, I would find it very very strange if Mr. Nierdorf had been posting here that much and then only
spent such a short time searching. Also, I don't know about those of you, but I would have mentioned this site and these conversations in the interview and I'm sure
the PP would be willing to print such a reference. I just don't see him as a Cooler Crew person.
I wasn't flirting, I just feel like sometimes I know what's going on and other times I don't.......All I know is that some people on here are friends and others aren't and
Well, WishYouWereHere I hope you know I meant that in a joking way. I didn't know anyone here when I started, though I have met a few since. But in that
Whatcha need, flipnat?
I estimate about 50-75,000 dollars damage to that poor piece of land!
The bushwackers were insane!
A little reflection of our world today!
Just some more facts #3 9,5,4, were not adorn the front door they were on a separate wall on the house? #8 you could not see the sunray peaks from the treasure
spot. #11the hockey rinks were not even close to the same size,& their was no ice at the treasure spot. I'm very disapointed with the news paper&how they came
up with these clues.
I never expected to find it although if I had, it would have been nice!
All this Circus showed me was that the carnival is becoming more bush league every year!
People are absolutely nuts!!
The Press should be ravaged with picks, shovels, and lanterns, then chased down like Frankenstien!
It was a monsterous blunder that those baffoons pulled on the general public.
The whole media has gone mad with their non-sensical reporting!!!!!!If that's what you'd call it!!!!!!
lucky, I have to agree. I guess they weren't very careful about details. Where do they get 'stretched quite tight' for the croched thing?
Why defame the PP???????
They try and do a
NICE
thing by contributing to the ST. PAUL/MINNESOTA Winter Carnival in a POSITIVE way and people complain!!
Minnesota Nice
Remember??
Boy, I must still be tired. My typing is way off.
I think we're all tired, I know I survived on miraculously little sleep the past ten days, because I now realize I was over-analyzing every clue! It's sad. I hope next year they do the hunt justice and someone finds it who is really searching.
Has anyone discussed the rumor that the PP just went and threw it in the tree on the last day? How is it possible that tree was missed by the horde?
Hello Everyone.
You know, the media has shown up at the dig site just about every year that I can remember - and I've been digging for 29 years....and once the media was covering people who were at the wrong park! I think there has been more people aware of it this year because of the extra money.
We spend lots of time tearing apart clues and trying to find hidden meanings. In the end the trick is to find the right park, make sure you see everything you are supposed to see, pay attention to anything the clues didn't mention so that some obvious park fixture is not very visible and dig. It has worked that way since the beginning of the hunt. Nothing is different this year. It is the luck of the shovel.
Or that the Med. was actually buried at Conway and the PP dug it up and threw it in a tree? There were NO CLUES on it being in a tree, not like previous years. Oh well, c'est la vie, I guess.
Leah - Don't believe everything you hear. The medallion finder said it was in the snow. You can hear the audio yourself from the Pioneer Planet front page.
Treasure Digger....Steve and Maureen were humble winners and good people...Neirdork is a jerk and far from humble.
The only park I saw on the news was Como. They kept showing these poor misled people thinking they would find it there. That was tuesday while the rest of the world was in Conway. Next year when the prize is back to normal fewer people will be out. I can't wait!!!!
I can't wait until next year either. It sounds crazy, but I do hope they reduce the prize $$$.
Hey, how about a conspiracy theory? The medallion really was hidden by the north/south running utility poles, but when the PP realized they had misprinted the clue Tuesday night they sent a guy to go get the medallion. Then the next day, they arranged to have it "found". They contacted someone on the WC committe who got her boyfriend to "find" it after making a token appearance in the park. Then they changed the explanations of the clues to say it was the hockey rinks they were talking about, as well as changing some other clues to fit the new spot. Some suspicious facts: 1) Someone on the Winter Carnival Button Committee didn't register their button? 2)The medallion was found along a row of trees just as was mentioned in clue #7, yet the explanation doesn't say anything about it being a double meaning. 3)It was found in a container of clean white yarn after having been buried in snow for at least two weeks. 4) The hockey rinks are not the same size. 5) Clue #12 and its explanation was suspiciously absent in the initial posting of the explanations. 6) It is highly uncharacteristic of them to use something as precise and explicit as an address, even if the numbers were scrambled. Plus, that was the first and most commonly dug up stretch of land in the park. Hmmmm.... Believe what you will.
Not to mention a lot of the important landmarks weren't visible from the hiding place.
The thing I was never looking for was the 9 5 and 4 together. It made it sound like the 4 was somewhere away from the 9 and 5. If I knew I was just looking for
some address combo of 954 on the same door it would have made things a helluva lot easier.
Where I was digging the clues made so much sense it was actually a thing of beauty. Where it actually turned up, the whole thing was pretty lame. One would have
expected better in general, but especially this year. Maybe they were at one time.
Hmmmm, not to sound like a fanatic, but it sounds pretty convincing to me!!! Anyone who isn't a least a LITTLE suspiscious is naiive, I think.
Yeah and I heard someone say that the 4 in the paper read as "sometimes a 4" and on the website it was "somewhere a 4" ???
I heard that too, though it was a little early to fit into the theory.
Call me naive then. Everything that was supposed to be there at that spot was there. You could see everything. I know. We spent the better part of Tuesday digging
around that area.
But if everyone wants to believe in conspiracies, go ahead.
I guess it just helps in swallowing the bitter pill of not finding it!!! Has anyone here participated in other types of hunts or ones in other states?
Oh but conspiracies are so much fun. Besides, it gives us something to talk about on this board.
Leah - There are bock (wooden goat) hunts in Winona at Schell's Brewery on the 13th of February and at Fitger's in Duluth during March. We've done the Fitger's
hunt....and other cooler crew members have done the Schell one. Ittiz great fun...and only lasts part of one day.
I gotta go. Need to take care of some things that haven't been taken care of for too long.
Allison
You are such a STAR
I think it's a sickness, this hunting and the fact that I'm here even AFTER it was found!
I don't give a rat's ass that I didn't find it, or that the Hunt is over. Translucent is not transparent, 459 is not a nine and a five, and somewhere a four, etc. etc. etc.
Here's some more titbits to add to a conspiracy theory, ms wonderland. Yesterday, when i did a search under Aaron Niedorf there were numerous postings under
that name that indicated that he had been hunting for a week or more,but yet in the paper he said he only started this week.And they were almost all mean-spirited
and petty.So today I wanted to look at them again and compare the e-mail address to the posting on the evening of the find from the "nice guy" Aaron. But to my
dismay, THEY ARE ALL GONE!! Could it be that PP doesn't want us to look too close at their new hero? What are the odds of two men hunters with the same
not too common name? There are NONE in th St Paul phone book!
Well thank god for that! I don't think I could take another ten days of hunting! (Although I probably could....)
Allison: I did a search for "Conway" and I believe you were the first to mention it. Is this true ??
Yes Paul!! I noticed that too, when i went today to read the posts because I heard everyone talking about him--suddenly it is only him on Feb 3rd. people are saying
that someone posed as him, but how could they pre-pose as him, before he even found it???
Paul, it was one of the juveniles screwing around. The name(s) kept changing.
As soon as the finder was named, they went to preferences and changed the name they posted under. VERY simple to do.
On Tuesday night at 11:30 when the mad rush began at the hockey rinks I decided I didn't want to fight the crowd so I just wandered around and watched. As I
did, I discovered the hockey rinks weren't at all the same size plus I had a few other problems with them. So I went home and found out the clue had been
misprinted. I figured, of course, because there's no way they could have been talking about the rinks. Then I went back at 5AM without sleeping because I thought I
had figured out the true meaning. I dug for four hours before finally giving up. It annoys me now to think that my whole theory was based on the idea that Clue#11
had accurate information in it.
I want pictures back !!!!!!!!!
Has anyone seen a map pinpointing the location ??
I believe I was the first person to mention Conway on the net. The first time I went out there, there were a couple of people out there, including The Medallion Kid,
but the kid stopped posting and the other people may not be posters here either. So I wasn't necessarily the first person to figure it out, but I may have been the first
to post. I think I was the first to post the Woodrow Wilson thing too, though again, that doesn't necessarily mean I was first to figure it out. But there is some sense
of victory in that. By the way, WishYouWereHere, I hope you're not flirting because Allison is my last name. David is my first.
Yeah Ian, but you can't back date it, can you?
how's it going everyone?
I haven't seen anyone produce a map. Maybe they CAN'T! Also, I would find it very very strange if Mr. Nierdorf had been posting here that much and then only
spent such a short time searching. Also, I don't know about those of you, but I would have mentioned this site and these conversations in the interview and I'm sure
the PP would be willing to print such a reference. I just don't see him as a Cooler Crew person.
uh-oh, homework is calling, see you all later!
Have a nice day!
HOLLYWOOD!!! I'M TRYING TO GET REALLY IMPOTENT MAIL TO YOU AND I CAN'T!!! E-MAIL ME SOS I CAN PICK UP YOUR
ADDRESS!!!
NOW!!!
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Allison
I wasn't flirting, I just feel like sometimes I know what's going on and other times I don't.......All I know is that some people on here are friends and others aren't and
I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WHICH.....
Well, I need to go eat and get some work done. I'm sure we can do some more conspiracy theorizing to replace the clue theorizing on Sunday.
I DO know that David Allison sounds familiar though?
THE GAME...WANNA PLAY? jrdamien@yahoo.com
Well, WishYouWereHere I hope you know I meant that in a joking way. I didn't know anyone here when I started, though I have met a few since. But in that
context, which category does star fall into?