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1999 Pioneer Press Medallion Hunt

Submitted by Casey Trauer on

It's time for the Medallion Hunt! The first clue will appear on PioneerPlanet just after midnight Saturday, Jan. 22. Come back here to compare notes with other treasure seekers, but be certain you read the rules on the Planet's Winter Carnival page.

Allison Wonderland

Actually, I don't recall how much of Como Zoo is paid for by tax dollars and how much is paid for by donations but I do know donations play a large role,

especially in making improvements. The advantage of attaching to a group like that is that they already have a lot of resources (corporate contacts, newsletters,

computers, office staff, etc.) It also helps to simplify a lot of legal issues. Green suggested there would be liability concerns and insurance requirements. This way the

city would take care of that part. The park would be available for something like this if we did do it independently, but I think it would be easier to do in conjunction

with them. And then they basically would be the "charitable" group. As for why this one in particular, its just that I have connections there already so it makes it

easier. $10 isn't a set figure either. It was just a guess I put out there. I'll take it that your vote is that its too high.

Wed, 02/10/1999 - 7:12 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Starting a club to do year round events like this may not be a bad idea though (hmmmm...maybe even a business prospect). Let me know if you can elaborate

further.

Wed, 02/10/1999 - 7:14 PM Permalink
RushHarley

A.W. - What do you think what be a good business strategy to approach this club idea with. Should we attempt to market it just locally or regionally or state wide

or how bout even nationally.

Any ideas?, we all need to get together and brainstorm.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 8:53 AM Permalink
Leah Lis

I think to start it locally would be the best idea. From that you can build to a national level--if you want. But that isn't necc. better than local. But I think it could go

statewide, obviously. Especially if it's around a TH (treasure hunting) theme. It would be great to bring awareness to the 'sport' and encourage more hunts throughout

our state! I guess i say club, based on my experience of running one(university/acadmenic)but it could also be an 'Association' per se. I don't know. There's a lot of

ways to go. As a business, there are professional 'hunt planners' by the way. i located a few of their websites and they weren't bad.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 12:13 PM Permalink
Leah Lis

I think Como is a great spot, by the way. And $10 is not too high, for me depending on what the whole picture is.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 12:15 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

The only thing I would be worried about with a business is where would the hunts take place? Could we count on getting permission to use public facilities for free?

Would there be outrageous insurance costs? Could we put them on often enough and have them sufficiently well attended to actually make a living off of it (or maybe

it would have to be a venture on the side)? Or maybe it would have to be offered like a catering service where the client takes care of the above details and we just

do it for their event and they pay us?

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 12:56 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

As far as the admission price goes, it occurred to me last night that we would pretty have to charge on a team basis. Say a couple were to participate. Do you think

they would really par separately so they could each enter the contest knowing that they'll be working together and splitting the money anyway? I think only one

would pay and the other would get no less satisfaction out of it. So maybe we'll have to charge something more like $10 a team (or more?) and if someone wants to

have 10 people on their team, they'll just have to split the prize 10 ways if they win.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 1:00 PM Permalink
THE AMBASSADOR

ALLISON,

PLEASE E-MAIL REGARDING THE HUNT! IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE A BLAST! HOW CAN I GIVE YOU MY E-MAIL ADDRESS

WITHOUT BROADCASTING IT ON THIS BULLETIN BOARD?

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 2:41 PM Permalink
RushHarley

$50 per five person team, I like the catering idea - kinda like those murder mystery dinner party guys, they'll perform at their site or set up something at your site if

we could come up with enough of a team we could contract out hunts maybe to business, social groups, parties, weddings, etc...

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 3:13 PM Permalink
RushHarley

Teams could actually consist of anywhere from 2-5 people, but no more. I think this could be great for companies, if they were to contract us out. A lot of team

building type stuff, employee motivation, maybe it would even motivate me to work rather then typing in here all day long. If we can get a name and establish a

following who knows where this sort of troupe could go!

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 3:16 PM Permalink
No user inform…

Definitely Rush! If you guys are seriously thinking of doing this you should check out some of the professional Hunt Planners already out there and how they do

it(they have alot of time-saving techniqes). This is pretty exciting because you could at least start with an informative website. (However, the one i checked out the

person was a total wordsmith and had a background/degree in team-building/learning etc.)

As far as the Association or Club idea, the fee could cover an annual membership that could just consist of a quarterly newsletter or something and info on

hunting.???

I guess what I don't exactly get is what are you going to tell people their $10 is for?? (cost of food, of prize, of donation to Como, what?) Maybe each person pays

as a donation to Como and then receives clues. I would have no problem paying for myself and my husband IF i knew what it was for. Also again--are you sure you

want to PAY for the catering (that is pre-pay a deposit etc.) and all that when people could just pay per item??? Just my latest thoughts. Let me know if you want to

know any of those websites.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 6:16 PM Permalink
Lady Lou

Ambassador...your email address is available to all.....just click on your name and there it is. If you don't want your address public knowledge...use hot mail or one

of the other freebies.

Just set it up, then go to preferences and change it.

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 6:57 PM Permalink
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HI DUMBASSES!

-I out smarted you all!!!! -1981 FINDER

Thu, 02/11/1999 - 8:51 PM Permalink
RushHarley

llis, I would like to find out some more about these sites if you would e-mail me their hyperlinks I would be greatly appreciated, also if you care to talk some more

about being a part of this project let me know. My email is harley.schultz@cyberdude.com. Feel free to contact me.

Fri, 02/12/1999 - 1:07 PM Permalink
jennyjenny

Allison--

How much would it cost to rent a picnic facility from Como? Don't we have to figure out how much it is for that first? And then the rest of the money could go for

prize and food? Or would food be potluck?

Anyways, maybe I misunderstood your past postings on this issue.

Jenny

Fri, 02/12/1999 - 3:10 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

If this is to be a Como Zoo fundraiser, there would be no charge. In fact, the picnic may take place on the Donor Plaza of the Zoo where they have their own

pavillion. If that's the case, Blue Bell Ent. would most likely provide food, either on a catering or vending basis. If its moved down to the main picnic pavillions, there

may be a charge for their use but then we'd just be taking money from Como to give it to Como so its not too big a deal. If it is done down there, there has been talk

of having it be a potluck. Personally though, I think bringing pot luck food that won't be eaten for eight hours may be a bit awkward (assuming people bring the food

as they arrive, but don't eat until afterwards). I'll probably have to work it out with the zoo as to what will probably be the best food option.

Fri, 02/12/1999 - 3:59 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

This is what I'm tentatively planning on proposing to Como for the spring hunt unless anyone can come up with any good objections/ideas.

Como Zoo Spring Safari (because you'll be hunting amidst exotic animals, get it?)

To be held Saturday May 1 or Saturday May 8

The event will take place in Como Park but will NOT include inside the Conservatory, the Japanese Garden, the golf course, the clubhouse, the Zoo Room,

ZooDale (unless they want the traffic?), the docent and education building, or any area with restricted access.

Cost: $10 to enter one person, $5 for each additional team member. Children 12 and under would be free. (That would be about the same cost for a couple as if

they were going to a non-bargain movie). Each team will get a set of clues, an answer sheet, an information sheet about the hunt, and two pencils. Each team

member will also get a special Como Zoo sports bottle which they can bring to "home base" at any time for a free fill/refill (of what I'm not sure yet. Maybe water,

Hi-C, Gatorade, whatever we can get rather inexpensively and it would probably have to be something not for sale at the concession stands.)

Registration will begin at 9AM at the Donor Plaza (to get people looking at all the donor information while they're waiting to start). The event begins at 10AM when

the clues and answer sheets are handed out. The event will run until someone completes it or 6PM, whichever comes first regardless of whether or not all individual

clues have been solved yet. If the event finishes before 6PM, runners will place notices at places specified in the team's clue/puzzle packet.

The prize for the first team who solves the puzzle, or for the team that has solved the most clues in case no one solves the overall puzzle by 6PM will be $100

awarded to the winning team, to be divided amongst themselves as they see fit. In the case of a tie, the prize money will be divided equally among winning teams first,

and then among team members. A further prize of $5.00 will be offered to a team each time they are the first one to report back to home base with the correct

answer to one of the clues (I was thinking of hiding special coins at or near each clue site, but that went against my don't touch anything policy). Thus $200.00 in

total prize money will be available.

The nature of the puzzle will be as follows: There will be 20 clues (approximately) representing word puzzles, logic puzzles, visual puzzles, etc.. When a team has

figured out the answer to one of the clues, they enter it onto the answer sheet in the space provided. The answer sheet will then direct them to enter each letter of that

answer into a specific place in a grid. When the grid is sufficiently filled, it will spell out a message that will be the clue to the final puzzle. The first team to report back

to home base with the answer to the final clue will be the winner.

Following the event there will be a picnic (in the picnic pavillions if available or at the Donor Plaza Pavillion if not). People may bring their own food or purchase it

from Zooper Foods. If the picnic is on zoo grounds, it will be ended at 8PM.

Sat, 02/13/1999 - 2:10 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Another thing, for all you connected people out there. If you'll notice, I mentioned additional prizes for anyone who is the first to solve a particular clue. The

reasoning was that in the Medallion Hunt, if you're totally clueless (so to speak) about the clues, then you just don't hunt. Nothing lost nothing gained. But if you've

paid money to participate, and then get handed the clue sheet and feel as though you have no idea about most of them, you'll feel cheated. At least this way, if you

can be the first to solve even one of the clues, you'll win something. But that aside, I'd actually rather not offer $5 prizes. I'd rather give away things like pairs of

movie tickets, free haircuts, bowling passes, etc.. So if any of you know anyone (or are someone) who might donate these kinds of things, let me know.

Sat, 02/13/1999 - 6:32 PM Permalink
snostar

Hi again! I guess I just missed y'all.

Sun, 02/14/1999 - 3:28 PM Permalink
jennyjenny

alison-- That sounds really fun!!

jennyjenny

p.s. If you need any help, just post it.

Tue, 02/16/1999 - 2:35 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I turned in the proposal today to Como, but they wanted some time to look it over before discussing it. As soon as I hear back though and know for sure what's

going to happen, I'll keep you all updated.

Tue, 02/16/1999 - 3:35 PM Permalink
THX 1138

Ignorant question here: What is that "officail" web site with info about the yearly Medallion hunt? I want to check it out for next year. I have never participated in the

search but it sounds like fun to me and might like to take a crack at it next year.

Thanks

Thu, 02/18/1999 - 9:31 PM Permalink
Terry

THX - check out www.coolercrew.com There is info about past hunts that is still being worked on...and all kinds of other stuff that brings a bunch of hunters

together during the year.

Thu, 02/18/1999 - 9:45 PM Permalink
pooh

hi people

Fri, 02/19/1999 - 10:34 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I just got back from Como Zoo and there is good news and bad news. The good news is that they really liked the hunt idea and are excited to do it. The bad news

is, not this year, but next year. They said they had already made their plans and committed their resources for this year and they didn't think they could add things to

their calendar at this point. Especially with an untried event like this one. So now there are some things to try and figure out.

I'd still like to do a hunt and have gotten several elements in place already. But now some things will need to be reconsidered. The biggest question is who's going to

sponsor the hunt? I'd still be happy personally to do it for Como next year, but I want to do something this year. So the possibilities are:

1) Find another charity to sponsor it and raise money for them (and we could still probably do it at Como, being public property).

2) Just do it as a private club function where we try to calculate the total cost of the event and divide it evenly among participants.

3) Do it as a public, possibly for-profit, venture.

Putting the event together will actually be the easy part as far as I'm concerned. I have experience doing this kind of thing and the elements have already been falling

into place. The biggest questions to me are money and liability. It would be virtually impossible to do this thing absolutely free. Therefore the costs of the event either

have to be donated by someone, or there would have to be an admission fee. If we raise more money than we need, who gets it? If we lose money, who pays it?

And do we even need to worry about liability and insurance for something like this? There was talk earlier of forming a treasure hunting club or business, but we

would need to work out the details of who would be involved and under what criteria/obligations. So I look forward to any input on this matter, posted or private. I'll

keep everyone updated as it progresses.

Mon, 02/22/1999 - 2:53 PM Permalink
tom rogers

ATTENTION MEDALLION HUNTERS.... I HAVE SOME INFORMATION YOU MAY NOT WANT TO HEAR, BUT WILL BE INTERESTED IN

NONE THE LESS. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY SEVERAL SOURCES INSIDE OF THE PIONEER PRESS THAT THE

MEDALLION WAS MOVED FROM BATTLE CREEK PARK TO CONWAY PARK AFTER THE 9TH CLUE. THE EXPLANATION IS THAT

CONWAY PARK WAS WHERE THE PEOPLE WERE AT SO THATS WHERE THE MEDALLION HAD TO BE AT. I TOOK THE TIME THIS

MORNING TO GO TO THE SPOT AND LOOK TO SEE IF THE CLUES FIT, AND LOW AND BEHOLD, THEY DID. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS

THE STUDYING THE PAST CLUE, THIS CAN BE INTERPRETED AS EITHER IT WILL HELP TO STUDY THE PAST TO FIND THE PRIZE, OR

THAT IT IS HIDDEN IN A NEW PARK. IT HAS A DOUBLE MEANING. THE ONE CLUE I WASNT SURE OF AT FIRST WAS THE 954 CLUE,

THEN IT HIT ME, THE MEDALLION WAS FOUND IN THIS SPOT IN 1995, 4 YEARS AGO. ONE MORE STRONG CLUE IS CLUE #5 FROM THIS

YEAR, IT IS FRIGHTENINGLY SIMILAR TO CLUE #7 IN 1995, THE PIONEER PRESS WILL OF COURSE DENY THIS IF THEY ARE ASKED, BUT

MY SOURCES ARE RELIABLE

Fri, 02/26/1999 - 2:47 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I just heard from the Parks dept. today and we got a permit to use Como Park. The next step now is to find a charity to work with us which I hope to have secured

by the end of next week. I'm going to put together a proposal over the weekend, but if anyone has any suggestions as to who to approach. I'm willing to listen to

them.

Fri, 02/26/1999 - 3:03 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Incidentally, I don't think they would move the medallion just because people were digging at the wrong park. I think they would just laugh and laugh and laugh. If

that were the case, they would have moved it to Newell. And I thought I was done saying this, but you can't think its at a certain park just because SOME clues fit

that park. ALL the clues must fit it and they did not all fit Battle Creek. It was never there. Now if they moved it from one spot in Conway to another, that's a

different question...

Fri, 02/26/1999 - 4:07 PM Permalink
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Howdy ho folks.....geez you're all looking swell & smelling an awful lot like flowers

Oh well folks, there's always next year! Don't forget to wear your damm button though!

Fri, 02/26/1999 - 6:40 PM Permalink
tom rogers

WELL HERE IS THE EXPLANATION OF CLUES 1-9 (BATTLE CREEK VERSION)AS GIVEN BY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE PIONEER PRESS #1

THE USUAL THERE ISNT A GOLF COURSE NEAR BATTLE CREEK #2 THE SLEDDING HILL IS NEARBY, BUT TELLS YOU NOT TO GET TO

CLOSE #3 THE NUMBERS KEEP SCORE REFERS TO THE NEARBY BASEBALL FIELDS, AND THE ADORN THE FRONT DOOR TALKS OF THE

NUMEROUS HOUSES NEAR THE SPOT...A NINE A FIVE AND SOMEWHERE A FOUR REFERS TO THE TIME IT WAS FOUND IN THIS

LOCATION BEFORE, IN 95, OR 4 YEARS AGO..CLEVER #4 STUDYING THE PAST CAN BE QUITE A BLAST...BUT THERE IS VALUE AS WELL

IN THE NEW (THIS YEAR) HMMMM VERY CLEVER #5 READ CLUE NUMBER 7 FROM 1995 YOU WILL UNDERSTAND #6 A MAN OF FAME

IS JOHN WINTHROP, WHO CAN BE FOUND IN A HISTORY BOOK AT THE NEARBY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL #7 PEOPLE READ WAY TO

MUCH INTO THIS CLUE...THE CLUE QUITE CLEAR IS #5, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO CLUE #7 IN 1995, THERE ARE 5 TREES IN A LINE

FROM SOUTHEAST TO NORTHWEST PIONTING NEAR THE SPOT, AND THERE IS A CROSS COUNTRY SKI SIGN WITH AN ARROW

POINTING RIGHT AT THE SPOT #8 TELLS WHAT IT IS HIDDEN IN, AND AS FOR THE TRANSLUCENT PEAK, TRANSLUCENT MEANS

SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT REFLECTING RAYS OF LIGHT AS TO NOT RENDER OBJECTS CLEARLY VISIBLE, WHICH WOULD

CLEARLY BE THE TOP OF THE PICNIC SHELTER, WHICH HAPPENS TO HAVE A "TRANSLUCENT PEAK" COVERING IT #9 NATURALLY A

WATER TOWER AND THE 3M BUILDING ARE VISIBLE FROM THE 95 SITE AS THE CLUES NOTE, AND THE PARK IS ON THE EASTERN

SIDE OF ST. PAUL, AS TO ORIENT YOU I VISITED THE SITE AND IT ALL MAKES SENSE

Sat, 02/27/1999 - 3:47 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I still don't buy it. If those are the explanations of the clues, they're even more lame than what was printed in the paper. Plus, why would they care if people were

digging in the wrong park at clue #9, when clue #10 was going to set them straight anyway? People were digging in the wrong parks all along. And why go though

the the trouble of rewriting the last clues, moving the medallion, and risking discovery? What would they have gained by that (or lost by not doing it)?

Sat, 02/27/1999 - 10:19 AM Permalink
green

Hay, Al!

Big thing Tom's missing is that to bee able to *see* the picnic shelter you have to bee in the *Maplewood* portion of Battle Creek where all the picnic area(s) are.

Now, what part of Clue #1 is *not* being understood here?

Sun, 02/28/1999 - 5:02 AM Permalink
tom rogers

I DIDNT KNOW THE MEDALLION WAS FOUND IN MAPLEWOOD IN 1995!? ENLIGHTEN ME!!!

Sun, 02/28/1999 - 5:00 PM Permalink
tom rogers

BY THE WAY, IM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THE NAME OF MY SOURCE, BUT SHE DID WRITE THE CLUES AND SHE JUST ABOUT LOST

HER JOB BECAUSE OF WHERE SHE HID IT...... SHE HAD A LIST OF PARKS SHE COULD HIDE IT AT AND BATTLE CREEK WAS NOT ONE

OF THEM, BUT SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HIDE IT SOMEWHERE IT HAD BEEN HIDDEN BEFORE, BUT THE PP DIDNT AGREE,

SO IF THERE IS ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS SITUATION, LET ME KNOW, I CAN GET IT.

Mon, 03/01/1999 - 2:16 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

1) I heard it was a guy writing the clues this year, but then again, I don't know how reliable that information is. 2)Isn't it awfully convenient that Conway fit the clues

that were written for another park (supposedly) so well? 3)If it was to be in Battle Creek, in order to fit the clues, it would have to have been in the Maplewood

section of the park. If so, why did the first clue say it was in St. Paul?

Thu, 03/04/1999 - 12:29 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

As for the Como Hunt, it looks like it is a go. We have a permit from the Parks Department and it looks like Second Harvest Food Shelf will be our charity. The

event will be on Saturday, May 1st. Registration will begin at 9AM at the newly constructed gazebo across from the amusement park by the miniature golf course.

Preregistration will be highly encouraged. The details on how will be forthcoming. The cost will be $10 for the first person on a team, and $5 for each additional

person, with all proceeds going to Second Harvest. The Grand Prize will be a minimum of $100 though we will be working on getting a bigger one donated (I'll be

happy to take any suggestions). I'll post more details as they come in. If anyone has any questions, or if you want to help, just send me an email.

Thu, 03/04/1999 - 12:38 AM Permalink
SNAKE88

I think tom rogers is a crack pot

Sat, 03/06/1999 - 5:17 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Dave (allisonwonderland) Just wanted to let you know that i drove past Conway today and noticed something interesting....no hockey rinks. The clue writer must

have been there during the summer and assumed that the ice rinks were of equal size. Just thought i would let you know. Jake Ingebrigtson

Tue, 03/16/1999 - 5:08 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Could be. I saw a map of Conway (maybe it was the one in the paper?) where the two rinks were drawn to look identical. Maybe they did just have bad

information.

Tue, 03/16/1999 - 9:43 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

By the way, for Snake and the others I've been neglecting here who got left off my mailing list one way or another, the hunt in Como is still on. Right now I'm

working on getting donations together. The publicity campaign should start in April and the event is May 1st in Como Park for the benefit od Second Harvest Food

Shelf. Let me know if you have any questions, suggestions, or want to be on the mailing list for updates.

Tue, 03/16/1999 - 9:46 PM Permalink
Bill King

Wed, 03/17/1999 - 6:06 PM Permalink
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Disco Duck Chris - IDIOT.

Thu, 03/18/1999 - 5:23 AM Permalink
The Chemist

So where did PF disappear to. Did he get chased off the page. I have a feeling it was the ramblings after a night of heavy drinking.

Mon, 03/29/1999 - 10:14 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Not much occasion to post here until next January. I think you were thinking of the Shoot the Breeze board.

Mon, 03/29/1999 - 12:24 PM Permalink
The Chemist

No allison he posted on every page in one night.

Mon, 03/29/1999 - 1:46 PM Permalink
E.R.

You guys have no life whatsoever,I came here to see if this chat was still up and there are acctually people here. YOU HAVE NO LIFE.the medallion hunt ended

two months ago. Repeat after me>>

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You now have no life!

Tue, 03/30/1999 - 11:52 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Well E.R. It looks like you have no life either.

Nothing better to do than cruise the boards?

Tue, 03/30/1999 - 1:19 PM Permalink
The Chemist

And has a load of time on his/her hands.

Tue, 03/30/1999 - 1:32 PM Permalink
RushHarley

speaking of not having a life

Wed, 03/31/1999 - 8:38 AM Permalink
RushHarley

I will take the NO LIFE, JOE thanks guy for making this one so easy!!! See everyone MAy 1st, right David.

Wed, 03/31/1999 - 8:38 AM Permalink