General Politics

"because Rick, envirowackos will publish and print anything no matter how absurd or blatantly wrong to get the uninformed and weak minded to blindly follow their causes"

I don't know who you're talking about.

"The bears in your pics are so terrified of man's intrusion that they are walking on and playing on the pipeline? Case closed."

You don't have the authority to close it. If oil is found, do you think they'll stop at 2,000 acres? Forget it.

"What is the problem?"

It's a wildlife refuge, not an oil field. If they wanted it to be an oil field, they shouldn't have made it a wildlife refuge. If they want to change the designation to the Arctic National Oil Field, let's have that debate.

"Oh yeah, what happened to the caribou herds???"

They've grown, due to what points to environmental manipulation caused the the oil pipeline. I don't know the affect on the rest of the refuge, but if you alter the population by artificial means, chances are good you've depleted something else.

Oh this is almost funny. In your opinions, the oil companies won't stop at 2000 acres BUT the anti-gunners WILL stop before guns are taken away from lawful citizens. Oh brother!!!

Yes, the herds have thrived when the enviroidiots said they would be decimated. Check and see how many national parks, refuges and designated wildlife areas the AK pipeline went through.

What has been depleted then?

"Case closed" meant animals are not effected nearly to the degree that LWW's want you to believe.

Loyalty: What a sin. People can count on you. We can't have any of that.

loyalty to Hitler was a sin.

Hitler would have been a Republican.

You guys want to be absurd. I'll be absurd, too.

Now no one said anything about Hitler being a democrat so your comment was uncalled for. The point was that loyalty has, or should have, its limitations. You haven't defined where that point is but there is obviously one. Or do you deny it?

another example of an activist court: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174479,00.html

Dukakis tried to take the high road. Between Rove, Atwater and Ailes, he was triple-teamed.

Dukkakis was obviously not tough enough to be president.  He would have been as much of a failure as was Jimmy Carter. Thank God we missed out on that.  I suppose, though, had Dukakis won we would have never had Clinton. That would have been the only good thing that would have come out of a Dukakis administration.

"Dukkakis was obviously not tough enough to be president."

He couldn't get far enough into the gutter. If you consider that tough, then your right.

He couldn't get far enough into the gutter.

Then he wasn't fit to be president. Sometimes a president has to do what he has to do.  Dukakis wouldn't have been able to handle all the challenges that a president has to face.

Neither could Bush, or else he would have gotten re-elected.

Or maybe he wasn't tough enough.

Neither could Bush, or else he would have gotten re-elected.  You may be right, for once. He should have never said no new taxes and then raised taxes.

Or maybe he wasn't tough enough. I never thought he was. if he was he would have dumped Quayle and he wouldn't have appointed that no account Souter.  But he was better than Dukakis and his personally and professionally corrupt successor.

Question: Doesn't all this make Wilson a liar, someone not to be believed?

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/larryelder/2005/11/03/174122.html

What a difference a week makes! Last week, liberals were expecting big things. They were counting on special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and the White House to do their work for them.

 http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/anncoulter/2005/11/03/174125.html

I really liked this paragraph:

Judge Alito's dear 90-year-old mother – who evidently had not yet been briefed by White House political consultants to avoid stating positions popular with Americans – immediately said of her son, "Of course he's against abortion."

Question: Doesn't all this make Wilson a liar, someone not to be believed?

Actually, Wilson's own words do that. Remember those famous 16 words: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently soughtsignificant quantities of uranium from Africa."

In his book, Wilson recounts his encounter with the unnamed Niger official in 2002, saying, he "hesitated and looked up to the sky as if plumbing the depths of his memory, then offered that perhaps the Iraqi mighthave wanted to talk about uranium." Wilson did not get the Iraqi's name in 2002, but he writes that he talked to his source again four months ago, and that the former official said he saw Sahhaf on television before the start of the war and recognized him as the person he talked to in 1999. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A54640-2004Apr29&notFound=true

So according to Wilson, they soughturanium after all. He also reported this to the CIA:

 In an effort to inquire about certain reports involving Niger, CIA’s counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, asked an individual with ties to the region to make a visit to see what he could learn. He reported back to us that one of the former Nigerien officials he met stated that he was unaware of any contract being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of uranium during his tenure in office. The same former official also said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him and insisted that the former official meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss “expanding commercial relations” between Iraq and Niger. The former official interpreted the overture as an attempt to discuss uranium sales. http://cia.va.cx/cia/public_affairs/press_release/2003/pr07112003.html

Judges who have served with Supreme Court nomineeSamuel Alito say he is unlikely to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade because of his faithful adherence to precedent. Five current or former judges from Alito's 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals tell the Associated Press that Alito would likely favor new abortion restrictions that might have been opposed by outgoing justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

But former judgeTimothy Lewis, an appointee of the first President Bush who typically sided with liberal court members, says Alito, "faithfully showed a deference and deep respect for precedent." And Senior Judge Leonard Garth, a Nixon appointee, says flat out "Sam is not going to overturn Roe v. Wade."

As a court of appeals judge it was his job to follow supreme court precedent. being on the court is an entirely different situation.  you would hope that a judge would vote to overturn decisions that does not have any connection with the Constitution.

You need a judicial activist, right jethro?

It is a good thing! No, a great thing? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174487,00.html

You need a judicial activist, right jethro?

You either don't understand what an activist judge is or you are deliberately ignoring it. It is not activism to reverse a decision that has no basis in the constitution. Reversing Roe would put things back the way they were supposed to be based on the plain text of the 10th Amendment.

Need to be schooled on anything besides AK today, Rick?

Dazzle me with your intellect, please.

Just wondering, since you gave up, as usual.

You don't have to wonder anymore. C'mon give me something to work with.

I did.

Political parties, by definition, engage in politics -- obviously. It's what they do. But the Democratic leadership is so singularly driven by partisan politics that they appear incapable of recognizing our common enemies. They sometimes even seem disinclined to stand behind America when Republicans are running it, for fear of strengthening the latter's standing.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/davidlimbaugh/2005/11/04/174320.html

BINGO!

 Strategists from the left wing of the party (James Carville, Stan Greenberg and Bob Shrum) and the right-wing (Will Gallston and the Progressive Policy Institute) have concluded that the "We Hate Dubya" faction is destroying the party and that ideas, not insults, drive political movements.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/tonysnow/2005/11/04/174319.html

I hope the likes of pieter and crabs are representative of the party. If so the party is doomed.  One day we may even see the Rat jumping the sinking ship.

Leaving the country? How painful could it be?

Hey, Rat, you did not respond to:

Now no one said anything about Hitler being a democrat so your comment was uncalled for. The point was that loyalty has, or should have, its limitations. You haven't defined where that point is but there is obviously one. Or do you deny it?

Don't you have anything to say?

The point will come when I lose faith in government and the notion that Democratic ideas are no longer superior to Republican ideas.

Democratic leadership is so singularly driven by partisan politics that they appear incapable of recognizing our common enemies. They sometimes even seem disinclined to stand behind America when Republicans are running it, for fear of strengthening the latter's standing.

Here's what Republicans said about Clinton and Kosovo

Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run?

"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it."
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush

Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."
-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years"
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"I'm on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we're running out of cruise missles. I can't tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we're almost out of cruise missles."
-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"I don't know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"
-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

Why didn't they support our president in a time of war?

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

"This is President Clinton's war, and when he falls flat on his face, that's his problem."
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

"The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We're taking on not just Milosevic. We can't just say, 'that little guy, we can whip him.' We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president."
-Senator James Inhofe (R-OK)

"You can support the troops but not the president"
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they're made ... not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce"
   -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

Why did they blame America first?

Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that's when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started"
-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Clinton's bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode"
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"
-Pat Buchanan (R)

"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark ...who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."
-Michael Savage

"This has been an unmitigated disaster ... Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we've killed. Ask the refugees that we've killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals."
-Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation."
-Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)

"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"
-Pat Buchanan (R )

"By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind's history. Not even Hitler's grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia."
-Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media

Not surprising that peter would bitch about Republicans doing then what the Democrats are doing now.

What do you think the chances are of peter criticizing the Democrats?

 

torpid, as usual, misses the point entirely. But hey, it's in the job description of "village idiot."

Just as I thought. Have you always been a tool?

I know fine distinctions aren't your thing, but do try to keep up. Republicans said then things that if said today would cause those same "patriots" to accuse the speaker of disloyalty at best. I do not criticize them for what they said then, I criticize them for sliming people who say the same things today that they said a few short years ago.

Try keeping up with your own BS. You backpedal with the best.