Discussion regarding the Code of Conduct

I'm proud of you for staying away from the Harding guys.... that place sucks... :cool:

Infact, it sucked so much, that one year during the Hatchet game, a bunch of us snuck inside and flooded their bathrooms :eek:

we wanted to show them how crappy they really were.

I believe that was the same year, that Harding won, but later had to forfeit the trophy and game, because it had been found out, that they had 4 guys playing for them who had already graduated....

why doesn't this surprise me???

I think it is the guy on the school board. I saw him on the news one day. They were talking about drug testing students that take football and sports. He was outspoken against it.

What a surprise.

Oh Nick, I think there was a harding boy or two in there somewhere aswell..

Was he outspoken with poor grammar?

he's a perfect example on why you should test them.

Perhaps also a perfect example of the need for education of condom use too.

from now on we ened to refer to him as the prophylactic poster boy.

that sounds like a messed up name for a wanna-be super hero....

or maybe super villain?

I just spit diet coke all over my screen. :pbpt:

Can I use innuendo and nonsense?

Nonsense and innuendo is okay, KT. I don't recall that you've ever posted anything that was over the edge.

Go ahead and bash me. I ran for office last year, itÂ’s not like IÂ’m not used to it!

I have chosen for several reasons to only use my screen name NextFinder and then the one I just now created on here to post this year and in the future. Send me a private message if you want to know why.

I am not nor 100% confident I know who is shackbash or valleygirl as several assume. I do hope you all enjoy your hunt and look forward to seeing you out in the park!

Eric Langness

The code of conduct will work both ways now when applied to Eric!

MODs - When you have time would you please move my user name to participant only throughout the threads?

I've been trying to fix it but in certain places it's not letting the change happen.

You sure? I think if it's done at the top level it will affect all the sub folders as well.

I think I got it now.

Thanks,

:frown: :frown:

fwiw...I'm just stressed....majorly stressed....

:frown: :angry:

Hope Katie is ok Kitch.

my thoughts are with you Kitch.

My four year old granson had his removed about a year ago and came through it like a trooper. Hope Katie's recovery is the same.

Is there some place where there's a listing of all the Thread Nannies?

If not, would someone please list them for me?

Thank You!

The thread moderators currently are:

ares,

ThoseMedalingKids

Kitch

Cluemaster

Terry

Thank you, Terry.

I may need to copy the Moderators on a/some e-gram(s) and wanted to know who they all were so all could get a copy.

Also, if it is necessary, would I be able to get a copy(ies) of activity here? Like a transcript or something, or I don't know.

I'm uncomfortable with a couple of posts, but I would like to wait a bit. Like see if it was just a blip, you know? Not wanting to squawk too soon and all that.

I don't wanna air my warsh here, dirty or clean. 'Nuff said.

Thank you for the list. I appreciate it.

g

I am sure whatever needed is possible - either by one of us or the sysop.

Thank you.

Sorry to have caused you trouble/work.

I'll leave now.

Thank you.

No problem...and the list of the moderators is now in the header.

Ittiz? I don't see it.

But thass otay, I made a list.

Thank you!

I'm outta this yucky place.

its up in the parent folder. of this thread.

Aw, man, right as I just came back she leaves...

Which just proves the only place you'll have Red and Green together will be channel 2.

You guys have a show on PBS?

There will be no posting by Clue Master allowed in this thread until further notice.

There is a winery called

Green and Red

Some of the Best Zinfandel ever..

I've only had wine twice....

I dont even know what kind it was, but it was good stuff.

HEH

the picture on that link box, is how my color crayon drawings usually end up looking....

If only...Sigh

What interesting reading this thread was. I had a few thoughts on it.

First off regarding moderators, it's hard to delegate power. The ones to whom it is handed are rarely seen as legitimate and will often face a lot of challenges, especially at first. Even in our civilized society, there is a kernel of brute power underneath it all. A leader can get respect in one of two ways. They can be elected. In that case their power is a function of the majority will of the people. They'll still be challeged, but at least they can claim a popular mandate for what they do and it's hard for anyone to challenge that.

The other path to power is to assume it. How did THX get to be in charge in the first place? He was the first person to get to the PF and set himself up that way. He had the power of the thread owner and there was nothing anyone could do about it except go elsewhere. The fact that they didn't speaks to his ability to govern well. But in the meantime, there was never any question about who made the rules. The same is true in my singles club. People may not always agree with me, but they know I'm the final authority and so there isn't a lot of debate about it.

So it's not surprising to see people challenge the authority of the appointees. Perhaps they can convince the people to quit or agree to an election or whatever through such challenges. If the moderators stand up to the test of time though, the challenges will eventually cease. Then the only question is do they run things well enough to keep people from leaving or even setting up a rival site and can they continue to work as a team? Both are determined by the quality of the people in the role.

Personally I'm not a fan of democracy in these situations. It's a painfully slow process if things get done at all, and the minority will always feel oppressed by the majority. Sometimes it's better to have a small group of leaders that the whole membership can unite behind in hatred, hehe. And especially in a group like this where the membership fluctuates so much, I would say a steady group of leaders would work best, without a pretext that they represent particular populations.

As for how specific the COC needs to be, you could probably get away with a pretty vague one that said such things were at the discretion of the moderators if people had complete faith in the moderators. Unfortunately it seems some of the moderators have been involved in some of the comflicts and thus it's nearly impossible to completely avoid the appearance of bias. Given that, it's better to be explicit, even if not perfectly so, because then the moderators have a set standard they can point to when enforcing rules as opposed to appearing arbitrary. The downside is if you enforce it in some cases and not others, you're still kind of screwed.

As for what people should expect of one another, that's a tricky thing too. It's one things when everyone is new and you're working with a blank slate. But once marks get on the slate, they tend to stay there unless both parties really want to be rid of them. it's also complicated by the fact that some people are around just for the hunt and have lives otherwise. To them this is just a casual thing to have fun with for a bit and there is little emotional investment. For others who have made friends here, even primary friends in some cases, there's a lot of emotional investment and a much greater tendency to go after the things you don't like and to stand your ground when others come after you. And now mix those two groups together where some people care and some people don't, and it's going to be hard to come up with just one set of rules that work well for everyone.

But the thing is rules only work for the occasional people. Think about friends you have elsewhere and can you really manage your friendships by making rules? The bottom line is you may think of the people here as your friends. If so, there will be times they do things you don't like and they will have some traits you don't care for. Unless you want to walk away from everyone, you have to abandon the notion that you can just write such a person off as you might be able to do elsewhere in life. Instead you have to figure out how to get past it and coexist.

So originally, I had this posted in the hunt thread.... but I deleted it... I figured since this one seems to be the place for this stuff, I'd put it here, incase anyone wants to know where I went...

I was planning on going to the deal at Gabes tomorrow night....but then today I get online and see this "anonymous" e-mail....from some made up yahoo e-mail address, belonging to a name that sounds like some kind of made up porn-star gimmick....

So I guess I cant go.

It would be most appreciated if you dont attend the get together on Sunday evening, at Gabes.

It has come to the attention of several people that you only go to gatherings, so that you may cause trouble.

Please refrain from attending so many events, in the future.

I've gotten several ones similar to this, in recent weeks, months.... they never really stop, to tell you the truth....

I have my suspicions, but I honestly dont know who they come from....if its one or two or three or a hundred or more people...

I guess I'm taking a vacation.... sounds like a buncha people, evidentlly.....including me - needs it....

Why don't you post the e-mail address that you're getting it from

that way others can respond to that person the way they responded to you.

Nick, I think you should go wherever you want. At any event you have been to there have been no issues. I doubt any would start now.

I say go!!!!

People who send anonymous emails have no place telling you anything. If they have something to say why hide???

I agree. If that person felt that strongly about it they should have told you directly.

yeah, nick post it. headers and all. its interesting that you got one yesterday saying not to come, since the people who have the hro against you have said they're not going to be there. i'd suggest you contact yahoo about the matter, since there's no such thing as "anonymous" email. every mail server it passes through adds a blurb to it, as well as tracking the original computer it came from. yahoo can easily track down where an email originated from their logs, as can any isp for that matter. and usually, they're quite happy to do so.

its interesting that you got one yesterday saying not to come, since the people who have the hro against you have said they're not going to be there.

I dont know why you even bother to bring that up.... nor state it like that.... didnt really want to discuss that here, since it had nothing to do with this matter...

but multiple "people" dont have an hro against me... one person does..... and as far as that matter is concerned, you need'nt stick up for either of them, because they arent on my list of suspicions, at this point in time....

as far as posting the e-mail address...

wouldnt that be against the code of conduct?

its clearly written, that posting another members information is a violation.....

its my understanding that whoever sent this b.s. is indeed a member around here, otherwise I probably wouldnt have recieved it.

since you asked, though and you happen to be one of the people deemed to be an authority figure -

dixon_yerface@yahoo.com

they pretty much did.... only from behind a curtain, so to speak...

seems like thats the popular way to do things

I'm right here....

some form of my contact information is available on a few different sites...

whoever this person or persons are - why dont you just come right out here and say what the hell your problems are?

you're on aol, right? open up the message from aol's web mail, and then on the action menu, hit view source. then copy and paste the top section in here. if you've got several, paste them in here, too. you can at least track it down to an original isp from there.