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2007 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion -ACT I

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Clues: 

Clue No. 1 (Sunday, Jan. 21) 
Welcome ice and snow and temperatures low 
There’s no time for cold feet! 
For searchers’ pleasure we’ve parked the treasure 
Where nature lovers each other greet 

Clue No. 2 (Monday, Jan. 22) 
Boreas\' vast realm can overwhelm 
Even diggers used to the long haul 
So here\'s advice to put your hunt on ice: 
Look no farther than good old St. Paul 

Clue No. 3 (Tuesday, Jan. 23) 
Hunters can be surly but in clue-time it’s early 
Be safe, friends, and in the hunt revel 
Near land that is high the treasure is nigh 
Vagueness rules and that’s on the level



 

Love4Vino

I would agree 100%... but there is a 3rd thing that REALLY makes it 'the life' :cool:
Thu, 08/10/2006 - 9:02 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

burping?
Thu, 08/10/2006 - 9:53 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

oh yeah... I forgot...

Its either sex, drugs, or rock & roll...

or a combination of all 3?
Thu, 08/10/2006 - 10:18 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

Exactly. Hence why I said I always hunt sober.

Sugar doesn't really effect me, neither does caffeine. I remember an old co-worker once mentioned I was the calmest coffee drinker he'd ever seen.
Thu, 08/10/2006 - 11:42 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

what are they doing to our carnival?
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 4:57 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

huh?

Ohh.. weird. Well.. long as they don't mess with the medallion hunt I guess...
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 11:48 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Why? What changed?
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 12:19 PM Permalink
me2

actually I have a little inside info from working one floor below them in the building....

I just didn't realize it was happening so quickly or at all....
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 12:37 PM Permalink
me2

supposedly word is that the Winter Carnival association may dissolve- or re vamp the whole system. We are aquiring their collections

is that what your talking about Ian?
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 12:42 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/15422480.htm

St. Paul Winter Carnival organizers hope to broaden its appeal by changing some of the best-known institutions. And they expect to hear more than a few complaints.

One parade, not two. A shift to Harriet Island. A less elaborate ceremony to crown King Boreas and the Queen of the Snows. The St. Paul Winter Carnival, a tribute to traditions that date to 1886, is about to undergo big changes.

And the people who run it are bracing themselves.

"We're going to tweak it so it matters to the entire community," said Kate Kelly, president and CEO of the St. Paul Festival and Heritage Foundation, producers of the carnival. "We're going to have some folks who are not happy."

Carnival organizers are planning a retooled January festival in response to financial challenges, a desire to broaden the festival's audience and even global warming.

The traditional Grande Day and Torchlight processions will be merged into one bigger "day-into-night" parade. And the typical trappings of the royal coronation — a fundraiser dinner that burned up more money than it raised — have been scrapped in favor of a community celebration with dancing and entertainment.

Looking ahead, organizers say they're also evaluating the relevancy of the pageants that have crowned a king and queen for each carnival since the first in 1886.

The carnival's 22-member board decided on the changes in July and will present them for the first time to festival volunteers this week. Festivities will take place Jan. 26 to Feb. 4.

Organizers promise fresh energy from new activities at Harriet Island, which will become the carnival's headquarters. Such events include a giant ice maze, a global-warming "weather station," an attempt to build the world's largest snow sculpture and a massive winter-survival campout for Boy Scouts guided by polar explorer Will Steger.

It gets quirkier. Kelly is trying to woo the Jamaican dogsled team to participate in a dogsled rally. (Yes, in the same underdog spirit that propelled the Caribbean country's bobsled team to the 1988 Winter Olympics, Jamaica is apparently training a team of mutts to mush with the help of sponsor and country-beach crooner Jimmy Buffett.)

A money crunch in part has motivated the festival to take a new direction, Kelly said. Last winter, in Kelly's first year at the helm of the organization, the event lost about $43,000 on a $1 million budget. Still, insiders consider that an improvement; the prior year, it came up short by about $160,000.

Just as significant, though, planners and observers acknowledge a need to capture a larger, younger and more diverse crowd that better reflects the community.

"The tradition is what makes it rich, but sometimes that tradition gets so overpowering that it's not inviting," said Brad Toll, vice president of marketing for the St. Paul RiverCentre Convention and Visitors Authority. "I'm excited that they're reaching out to other audiences. No one ever said the festival is about these certain activities. It's about our spirit here in St. Paul."

Even some members of the carnival faithful say the royal coronation, which used to be the city's "it" event from the 1930s through the 1950s, should now skip some of the pomp and circumstance. The gala events typically go on for four hours or more, featuring skits from each alumni group of princesses, princes, kings and queens.

"Then every single King Boreas and queen for the last 100 years who's still alive stands up and waves to everybody, one at a time," said one past princess who didn't want to be identified because of her ties to the organization. "Then every single princess stands up to be acknowledged. Everyone wants to still feel like they were a king or a queen or whatever. It doesn't have to be like that. You don't have to get up every year and pound your chest."

Although she sees excitement in the new changes, others see the demise of cherished traditions.

Parades have been a hallmark of the carnival for its 120-year history. The Grande Day procession, held early in the festival, featured floats and figures celebrating the legend of Boreas, the ice king, and his royal family. A week later, the carnival wraps up with the evening Torchlight parade and the heat-loving Vulcan Krewe's dethroning of Boreas — a victory symbolizing the coming of spring.

Early reaction to merging the two processions has been "not good," said John Moore, a volunteer who heads the carnival's parade committee.

"I think people understand it's a financial thing, and it will carry on, and no one will lose any sleep over it," said Moore, of Maplewood. "But it was a tradition, and it's going by the wayside."

The 2007 parade will be bigger, place more emphasis on performances rather than hand-waving and conclude with fireworks, Kelly said. Moore said he and other carnival supporters are working on a five-year plan to increase the parade's prominence i
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 4:17 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Moore said he and other carnival supporters are working on a five-year plan to increase the parade's prominence in the region.

The carnival, Kelly said, can no longer count on the Siberia-like winters of its early years to pull off some of its signature events. Last year, ice sculptures melted in the 40-degree warmth, and construction of the ice palace in 2004 started late and was scaled back because of balmy weather. Such uncertainties typically unnerve event sponsors who want firmer guarantees before committing cash.

Now the festival is moving to Harriet Island, where coordinators say they can make their own snow and their own cold: air-conditioned tents that can enclose the sculptures.

Bringing the carnival to the riverfront will seal Harriet Island's role as a festival grounds throughout the year, said Bob Bierscheid, who heads the city's parks and recreation department. Visitors also will find it easier to partake in the carnival if it's all in one spot, he said.

"We're not abandoning downtown," Bierscheid said, adding that the city and other partners will continue to offer an outdoor skating rink and other winter activities in or near Rice Park.

In 2008, the carnival will seek two additions — a snowboarding half-pipe (that could be used for skateboarding in summer) and an "ice community." The latter, though shorter than an ice palace, would feel more like a playground, possibly showcasing a lobby bar and a replication of Rice Street and other St. Paul landmarks, such as the famed Dale Street shack of late entrepreneur Jack "Tiger" Rosenbloom.

"We can't stake our future on our ability to build ice castles over the next 100 years," Kelly said. "If it doesn't work, we'll change it again."

Laura Yuen can be reached at lyuen@pioneerpress.com or 651-228-5498.

What's new: weather, slides and mazes

Dogs and slides and mazes, oh my! In addition to changes planned for its parades and coronation ceremony, the St. Paul Winter Carnival plans several new touches for the coming festival, with the bulk of activities shifting to Harriet Island. Here's a short list:

• A giant ice maze will invite kids to find Minnesota-themed memorabilia frozen into the walls. Corndog, anyone?

• A science lab and weather station will teach folks about global warming and earth science.

• Workers will attempt to build the world's largest snow sculpture.

• Fireworks willlight up the riverfront on the carnival's final Saturday.

• Bands and other acts will perform under the heated Minnesota Hotdish Tent.

• Noon-hour education programs will showcase ethnic traditions and diversity at the Harriet Island pavilion.

• The button bash, a pre-carnival kickoff held in the fall to unveil the carnival button, will take place at Como Zoo and the Marjorie McNeely Conservatory. The event will help promote the zoo's new polar bear exhibit, expected to open in 2008.

• Planners also are hoping to move forward with a kids' snowmobile rally, a snow slide and a dogsled rally, possibly featuring the Jamaican dogsled team.
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 4:19 PM Permalink
Clue Master

::applause!::
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 8:18 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

so are they gonna have the kickoff button bash on a weekend too? I seem to remember in past years it's been on a weekday in a skyway in downtown, right?
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 9:19 PM Permalink
KITCH

....hmmm.....now this winter is now going to be colder and have more snow than ever......
Sun, 09/03/2006 - 9:55 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

500 year blizzard
Mon, 09/04/2006 - 4:10 AM Permalink
ares

i've always thought it assinine to have two parades for the carnival.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 8:42 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Rather just freeze your ass off once instead of twice?
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 8:58 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

what are you talking about? I spend almost 2 weeks outside freezing mine off while hunting...
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:13 AM Permalink
me2

ok, I got the 411 on some of this. The newspaper/news usually gives the worst of a situation but in this case the article was made up to make the whole thing look like the changes would be really good. "Well, let me tell you" (sounding like Mrs. Olsen on Little House on the Prairie) ..... turns out it's not all good. Ice Sculptures, Klondike Kates, Coronations ----EVERYTHING will be held under a tent on Harriet Island. NOTHING will be downtown St Paul, Rice Park, Landmark Center, RiverCentre, Kellogg Park. NOTHING will be held at Como Park or Phalen! everything is being confined and down graded.

Those parades were privately funded anyhow. There is no reason for the merging of the 2 parades. ... supposedly this will be a very small Winter Carnival year and probably very disappointing.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:18 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

but the button kickoff is supposed to be at como this year.. right?

Think they'll go back to 1 button design?
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:37 AM Permalink
Clue Master

It might not be all that bad. It could prove to be a nice combination of events. For those who only went to the coronation could now check out the ice sculptures and vise verse. It'll get more people into a smaller area. I know that I've never seen a coronation of Kate, King or Queen but am more apt to check it out now since I won't be confused as to where and when things are taking place.

Besides, the parade is still downtown isn't it?
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:44 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

To be completely honest, I never went to the coronation or most other carvinal events. About the only thing I usually do is check out the ice sculptures.

If ya ask me, let em stay outside at rice park. if they melt, oh well. Get em made, judged and everything the 1st day. People that go the last day might be treated to a wet puddle, but hey, that's what ya get for being late.

Putting them in a temperature controlled environment just seems like an insult to Minnesota's climate. We've had tough winters and easy ones, big deal. Ice sculptures should reflect it. If you're worried about all the time and effort you spent to make a nice sculpture, you should have carved it in stone.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:55 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Aren't they just going to cover them if need be? It's kinda hard to do that in a park with big trees. I know it would be more appealing to the artists and public if they were guaranteed a nice showing. That would still continue to bring in revenue too.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 9:59 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

no offense to the carnival lovers out there but my philosophy is I could care less as long as there is a hunt
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 11:04 AM Permalink
me2

the Coronations were always held downtown and if memory serves... by paid invitation only of $125 per plate. Going from being apart of something royal to 'under a tent' is pretty lame. We'll see.

I usually went to the coming out parties of the Vulcs on Harriet though anyhow- that wont change.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 12:33 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I usually went to the coming out parties of the Vulcs on Harriet though anyhow

That's funny. I went to the THX coming out party. I've never seen so much leather. :eek: :smile:
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 12:48 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

125 bucks a plate? Heh, now I know why I never went :wink: Especially if an invite was involved.

I'm not ritzy enough for royal stuff anyways. I'm a treasure hunter first and foremost.

Gotta agree with Tim, as long as they don't screw with the hunt, I'm okay with change.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 12:53 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I'm glad that they're finally including fireworks. That was one major thing they lacked vs the hometown festivals.
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 2:20 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I disagree about the parades. I like having 2. Wonder if they are cancelling the ice races?
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 3:10 PM Permalink
me2

they have had fireworks in the past - at the Vulc taking over the King at the end of the Carnival at Kellogg Park AND at Rice Park.

I agree with 3m- I like 2 parades -
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 5:33 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Hopefully they'll make it a regular thing now
Tue, 09/05/2006 - 7:25 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

Anybody else notice the Winter Carnival website is down? Think they're revamping it?

I'm kinda wondering about the button unveiling...
Wed, 09/06/2006 - 8:41 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

that's not funny Ian. I don't look good as a popsicle.
Wed, 09/06/2006 - 11:07 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

that's disappointing.
Wed, 09/06/2006 - 11:08 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

that's not funny Ian. I don't look good as a popsicle

I love to lick popsicles.
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:02 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

heh.
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 9:37 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

ever see that Gong Show episode with the girl with the popsicle? She got gonged, but it took a while. They really had to fight over the gong stick.
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 12:59 PM Permalink
Love4Vino

um, no. but the man who owns the mexi mart by my house always gives me a free popsicle with my meat order.

I have this sneaking feeling, i've just left myself wide open for comment with the above sentance.
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:04 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

hmm...

The Gong Show is infamous for several especially salicious escapades. The most memorable was an act called "The Popsicle Twins", which consisted of two women, made up to look like teenaged girls, sitting on stage and provocatively sucking Popsicles while the song "I'm in the Mood for Love" played. According to Barris in an interview years later, the censors would regularly nix acts that he thought were safe enough to air. So, he made it a point to submit acts to the censors that were totally over the line so that some of the questionable ones would slip through. The Popsicle Twins was, in Chuck's mind, totally over the line and he submitted it as a stalking horse. While legend has it the Popsicle Twins were only seen on the East Coast because the switchboards were flooded with complaints as soon as it aired, and edited out before broadcasts in other time zones - it was, in fact, seen on the West Coast. Jaye P. Morgan wouldn't allow either of the other 2 judges to hit the Gong & when the girls finished - she said "That's how I got started." The Gong Show Movie includes ten seconds of footage from this act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gong_Show
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:05 PM Permalink
KITCH

...I wish they'd bring it back...
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:12 PM Permalink
me2

it's alot like todays Americas Got Talent
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:41 PM Permalink
KITCH

not the same.......you need the GONG!!!

would be cool...like 5000 calls to a line gongs them...
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:47 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

yea make it a reality gong show with live interaction.

Found the real player video clip

 Real Player clip
Thu, 09/07/2006 - 1:53 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

I love the 4th one from the bottom!
Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:23 PM Permalink
OT

My first reaction is that some look a lot like former buttons. The ones with the big snow flake in the middle. And some look more like buttons for North St. Paul Days, or whatever you call their celebration.

I have to go with the one with the shovel sticking out of the snow pile! :sillygrin:
Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:25 PM Permalink
Terry

OT - I like that as its very similar to the very first Cooler Crew button from 1998.

I also like the bundle up one. Simple. Understated. Different from anything else we've seen.

My third or fourth choice would be the one you like Timmers. It was done with some thought and originality.
Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:27 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

I must be thinking like OT, I like the snow shovel.

Then again, I'm always partial to any sort of medallion hunting tool depicted on a button..

Polar Bears... you'd think that St. Paul has gone White Bear Lake or something. Too bad it's limited to those college students. They should have an open contest one of these years.

Also, does that mean they're going to only have one button instead of the 4 that they've done for a while?
Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:31 PM Permalink
Clue Master

me too

Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:32 PM Permalink
KITCH

...geez..I haft to buy that crap :frown:

...I need 2 figure out the loophole about not buying a button but still be registored
Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:27 PM Permalink