2007 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion -ACT I

yeah, that could be true.

Yeah, what Ares is saying. If it weren't in there, you might be looking at why it's a shorter line compared to the others.

or not. second line has 6 beats, last line has 9. would have sounded better with out it too.

FWIW, used to is correct. *ducks*

Great minds think alike :wink:

Nice noodle! I like that a lot (maybe because I am really hoping to be involved in a hunt at Hidden Falls)!

Hmmm...

It actually fits the prose measurement better without "each other"

I recall that they used to excavate stone out of hidden falls, that could be double clue, diggers used to the long haul.

thank you!

I'ts probly nothing tho.

Yeah, I guess that's right. Although if "each other" were not there and it just said "where nature lovers greet", we'd probably be spending a bunch of posts trying to figure out what the nature lovers were trying to greet.

fair enough

lets see if we can beat up this clue a little more :smile:

I said this earlier but for those who missed it, "THE LONG HAUL" was written by Myles Horton and Horton St runs through COMO.

ANybody have any thoughts on that?

yes

oh yeah.

in which case they could have used meet instead of greet, as others have mentioned.

"each other greet" anagrams:

CHEAT THREE OGRE

ERGO CHEAT THERE

ROACH GREET THEE

GOTTA CHEER HERE

Greet Thee Roach

I know what's on your mind... :wink:

bwah! you're thinking what cm is thinking, not me.

i'm thinking me2's gonna get her chicken back filled with roaches. anyone got a filthy kitchen i can borrow?

After being a model citizen and defending my wife from an assailant, I got the privilege of going out for a run doing some community service work. 120 hours worth. One of the first "jobs" we had was to clean up this lady's house for her. It had gotten a 'little' out of hand...

We got there after the third roll-off dumpster arrived, and went into the basement which hadn't been touched yet. She had so much junk it was unbelievable. There was so much dust from boxes becoming one with the concrete floor, there was food remnants found under boxes. The best was a newspaper from before I was born (1974) that had on the front page something about the city garbage clean-up something or other... How fitting.

Anyway Had I known you were going to hold a chicken hostage, I'd have saved you some. There may still be quite a few nasty things still there... That nastiness just doesn't go away. With dust masks the girls still refused to go downstairs. And this was a court required "job". I mean privilege. :sheepish:

Brassmonkey is glad the coolercrew loves me, who wrote that on the side of the webpage? Im glad to contribute. Or does everyone see that? and im not really that special....

we are all "special" :pbpt:

ok.. so I'm not totally sold on the 'in saint paul thing'. sorry. Still on the fence.

cause if I was giving you advice to slow something down, I'd be telling you to look where it wasn't.

that being said - Central Park has Harriet Alexander Nature Center & the Muriel Sahlin Arboretum, (weddings / formal gatherings in nature setting etc) the nature trails, which cross one another etc. It's got Ice Rinks (ice) and baseball Diamonds (also ice) The saint Paul Audubon Society calls Roseville home (although not close)

and no - I don't think the clues are telling all of this stuff... but if it's point at 1 and the rest are all co-inky-dinks.. then so be it.

links to images of the walking trails of central park

lexington area

victoria area

dale area

harriet alexander nature area

As much as I'd like to see a hunt outside St. Paul, the only ones I fear I'll see anytime soon are the local hunts.

Vino: got a link to como walking trails?

Muc: i like your tagline!

Brass Monkey you are REEAALLY special to me. Yes it is a nice touch where it says we are loved!!!!!!!!

To answer your question:

I'm not sure if there is a temp sign at the bank's cooperate headquarters.

 I WANT IT TO BE HIDDEN FALLS!!!!!!!

Maybe because of my xtra noodleing that was meantioned in the cooler crew site with what the clues meant. I don't know, it just seems right for now

not specifically (that i've found yet)

but this is pretty good

http://www.stpaul.gov/maps/

it's got all the bike trails and some of the parks listed on the bottom, but I haven't clicked through those yet.

Does the Sam Morgan Regional Trail the the Bruce Vento Regional Trail meet anywhere?

Seems to me by this article, they were both activists for more open space (i.e. Nature lovers)

the two trails meeting would make them greet each other

http://www.friendsoftheparks.org/newsletters/newsletternov02.pdf

heh. i answered my own question: no.

however that meeting on the 30th is to discuss it becoming a possibility so that the BV trail would go all the way down to the mississippi.

http://www.mepartnership.org/sites/LOWERPHALENCREEK/sub_whatsnew.asp?new_id=2157

was just gonna post that same link.

so, I wonder if the clue writer, happens to be someone who follows theses ventures, and figures that if he draws attention to this area where the two trails would meet (via the hunt) it would get people down into the area and they would understand the need for the trails to intersect.

politics? perhaps!

mebbe. but, then again, that end of the trail is off limits as part of the sanctuary area.

Hiler H. Horton was who Horton Ave & Horton Park was named after. He sat on the board of park commissioners and was later a state senator.

Apparently in the late 1800's Como Zoo also had an elephant named Horton.

I'm not sold on St Paul at all.

I'm not going to be able, or try, to read all these posts.

How about a map link and coordinates for Matty B's, conveniently up above?

Also, do we KNOW the time the paper will go on sale?

of course we don't. that's why its open ended :smile:

true, but it would cause people to be more aware of it and possibly spur on more support.

Don't go digging around Roseville...nothing good can come of that....why "Long Haul" doesn't put your all by the trucking that runs near LONG lake Regional Park, I'll never know! :wink:

(making it fit MY park pick) :ooh:

word is 11:30 is the time it is supposed to go on sale officially, last nights delay may be due to them waiting for the football game to end to go to press.

If you put a drink "on ice" it's called "on the rocks"... Just a noodle.

If someone has already posted something similar to this, I apologize in advance.

I seriously doubt that a cluewriter, when considering the different levels of dedication that hunters have, would write a clue saying "Look no farther than good old St. Paul" on clue #2 and mean "really, don't look in St. Paul!". 90% of the hunting population is not even going to think twice about a clue that straighforward, true to history, and early in the hunt. I mean, I can see the cluewriter trying to be tricky and difficult to account for the short hunt last year, but not really misleading. The closest to something like that happening this early in a hunt that I can remember is the "Capitol dome" clue from 2003.. but still, there are a lot of differences. First, the clue wasn't really decieving in that it was asking of us to do exactly the opposite of what the commonsense interpretation of the clue was telling us to, it was just that "Capitol dome" meant something a little different than what might have been expected. Secondly, in recent years, the "St. Paul Park" clue has been very common-- often anticipated (whereas "dome" clues are not conventional and not anticipated)-- and if they were to break this St. Paul trend, I don't see them being incredibly tricky about it.. too many people would become frustrated and would feel mislead. Also, I think they could be very straightforward about it being outside of St. Paul, it isn't exactly giving the medallion's location away!

Well, the first line says "Boreas' vast realm can overwhelm". It also makes more sense to me if the cluewriter is saying "ok, this place is huge, so lets narrow it down to St. Paul" then saying "ok, this place is huge, so dont look in this one part of it". The clue number and wording leads me to believe that this is going to be a St. Paul hunt. Also, "good old" is used to describe St. Paul, which doesn't seem like a good description of a city the cluewriter wants us to avoid.

but perhaps! (playing advocate here)

the clue writer is saying... go look in all the other parks of Ramsey County! Since chances are he prolly owns a THG himself among a bazillion other books and realizes that we have the most info on the parks in the city Proper.

by throwing us one that is less familiar, I think it tosses in a certain curve.

Anyway you look at it, last nights clue was a good one. I'm still liking the not in St Paul premis, but wouldn't be surprised if it was a ruse.

Also, I can see how ice might be associated with freezing... like, freezing or slowing down the hunt. In that case, though, would it be proper to say "on ice"? I don't things are slowed down when they are placed on ice. Sure, this cluewriter seems like a very composer of lines, and some of the wording seems confused, but I am sure that he/she could think of a better way of expressing "slowing down".

Nothing leads me to believe that anything negative is being expressed in this clue.

alright got to get ready see you all down there tonight I hope!