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girlbassist

Modelo is an all around good beer :sillygrin:
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 7:55 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Here's the two spots where Ali & I are going to spread Amy's ashes next April.

They're both very beautiful and serene places.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:08 PM Permalink
girlbassist

Wow Cluey.. they are both amazing, and it's awesome that both places hold a high place in both of your hearts. Amy will enjoy every moment of it.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:10 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I agree and I agree.

ty again
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:14 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

looks like a cool place to be.

Makes me think maybe I should do something different than sit in a hole when my time comes.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:20 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Nice Joe 3M
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:43 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

dang, I missed that. Thanks.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:56 PM Permalink
me2

my god is she beautiful

the place youve chosen looks to be the best place on earth. I love it.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 1:21 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Thank you J. I was a lucky man. Even though she's sporting a silly grin in that picture, she's still smokin' in my book.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 1:29 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

clue brother take your car to auto zone and have them run out with there code reader and it will tell you out and out what the codes are and you get it done for FREE the best word I know!!!!!
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 2:03 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Good advice but I know the 'code' just not the sub-codes associated with it. Only the fricken Caddie dealers have a special Caddie only reader! :angry: GM dealers don't even have them. They all send me to Cadillac with a growl because we all feel the same way.

It's much like me having to use an xd card and battery that's only good in Olympus and Nikkon cameras. Sucks
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 2:10 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

well theres read my sub codes!!! and so I dont know??? But hay you could try and see it free not like your out any thing??? right I would rather go try and save a dollar or 200 and try then for the fun of it!!! but if you have been to other places and thay said that I can see arggg I would smack them silly for doing that!!!! you just need to go get a new esclaide!!!!! hell ya!!!
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 2:15 PM Permalink
becksie

Ooh!!! Take me!!! :ooh:

<<<<<--------raises hand
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 3:26 PM Permalink
zephyrus

http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2.html

about half way down there are links to what the caddie codes mean (under "GM Diagnostic Trouble Code Lists")

unless I am misunderstanding and getting that you cannot 'retrieve' the codes...
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 4:11 PM Permalink
zephyrus

If you can't get to them, try this...

Reading the Cadillac Onboard Diagnostic Codes

If you have a problem, why not ask the Cadillac what's wrong?

Question markOne wonderful feature of most Cadillacs, including the Deville / DTS, the Seville / STS, and the Catera / CTS up to 2003, and the Allante, is the availability of onboard diagnostics.

By pressing a set key sequence on the dash, the Cadillac will display any trouble codes, warnings, or watch conditions being monitored by any of the various control systems. These trouble codes are called Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC), and are shown by system.

You can reset the codes using the onboard diagnostics, and in some cases make changes to the way that the vehicle operates. This article addresses the basics of how to get in to the system, back out of the system, and use some of the info found there. Please see the How-To section for more information.

DTC display; 1998-2004 Seville and 2000-2005 Deville

by JimD

Use the 3 switches located to the right of the Driver Information Center (DIC) to activate and respond to the OBD prompts on the DIC.

ON/OFF = YES

INFO RESET = NO

INFO DOWN or INFO UP = manual toggle

Ignition ON, acknowledge any warning messages; press ON/OFF and INFO UP together for 2 to 3 seconds. Everything in front of you lights up for 4 or 5 seconds, then you will see:

Display shows "ALL?"

Answering YES will display "ALL CODES?"

Answering YES will run automatic test sequence and display codes, if any. Systems and codes will scroll faster than I am able to read them and write them; not to worry.

"ALL CLEAR CODES?" will display at the end of the automatic test. If you are satisfied you have the information you need, answer YES to clear/erase all error codes.

Answering "ALL?" with INFO DOWN will toggle systems test manually in order.

Answering "ALL?" with INFO UP will toggle system test manually in reverse order.

Press INFO RESET to reset DIC to "ALL?" to start again.

Ignition OFF to exit.

SYSTEMS: (as of 1998)

ABS (Antilock Brake System)

AMP (Amplifier)

DDM (Door Driver Module)

DIM (Dash Integration Module)

IPC (Instrument Panel Cluster)

IPM (Instrument Panel Module)

IRC (Integrated Radio Module)

PCM (Powertrain Control Module)

RFA (Remote Function Actuation)

RIM (Rear Integration Module)

SDM (Sensing and Diagnostic Module) Includes airbag crash data. Under RF seat of Seville.

VTD (Vehicle Theft Deterrent)

MSM (Memory Seat Module)

TTM (Tilt/Telescoping Module)

RSS (Road Sensing Suspension)

DTC display 1989-2000:

1. Turn the ignition switch ON. [Bruce notes: interestingly, the engine can be on or off]

2. On the cars up to 1995, on the Climate Control panel, press the OFF and WARM buttons simultaneously.

On the 96/97, push the OFF button and the top (warmer) end of the PASS rocker switch.

For 99 Deville, Turn the ignition switch to ON. Simultaneously press the following buttons until all VF display segments (IPC and CCP) are illuminated:

    The digital IPC, the climate control center (CCC) OFF and warmer (RED) buttons

    The analog IPC, the climate control panel (CCP) OFF and PASS warmer (up arrow) buttons

On the 98-2000, there seems to be some discussion:

GM ESI CD version:

* 1) Turn the ignition on, engine off. 2) Press the RESET button to acknowledge any warning messages present 3) Press the OPTIONS button on the driver information center and hold 4) While pressing the OPTIONS button, press the FUEL button 4 times within a 10 second

      period. System will first enter automatic display mode followed by manual display mode.

Willy Spenser writes how to really do it for the 98+:

    * With the ignition key on, running or not makes no difference, press the on/off and info^(info/up) buttons for the DIC at the same time for about 2-3 seconds and release. It should then be itn the DTC check mode. Use the on/off button to select,when it

      lists a question,i.e CODES?...,press on/off button to select that. The codes for each system will now appear if there are any. Otherwise it will say NO RSS, NO PCM,ETC... Use the reset info button to return or go back to the previous selection. When it asks you CLEAR CODES?...press the on/off button to clear them IF YOU WANT THEM CLEARED, if no, press reset info repeatedly until you exit. You can also exit by turning the ignition switch off.

      This should work on '98 and up Sevilles.

3. Hold the buttons depressed until all display segments on the CC/DIC and instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) illuminate. On 1992 models, a separate combination panel houses both the ECC and DIC. On 1993-1994 models, the DIC is part of the instrument panel cluster.

4. After the segment check, the diagnostic trouble codes will be displayed. Each trouble code consists of the system identifier, a three-digit code identifier and the current or history identifier. If no codes are presen
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 4:14 PM Permalink
zephyrus

The Diagnostic trouble codes in your car only point you to the general circuit of the problem. A 'sub code' may point you a little further in the right direcdtion, but you will most likely still have to do a little figuring, and possibly some more troubleshooting to find what is actually wrong with it.

They also only show you problems in the circuitry that Cadillac and federal law want you to read. Like, you may have a problem with a worn piston ring that may not show up on the diagnostics. (That should, but you know what I mean.)

If you are into doing this kind of stuff on your own, The previous few posts should help you get into the right area of what is going wrong. Also if you do it yourself, don't overlook the little stuff like fuses, poor connections even when they outwardly look good, potential shorts , grounds and open wiring.

If you need to go to Cadillac, I'll pray for ya... dealers are spendy... :frown: (why I work on my own stuff)
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 4:21 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Holy Crap does that kick ass!!

I can't wait to see what they mean.

Thanks big time.

I'm having my Thursday beer right now but am looking forward to hitting the codes I already paid for later. Awesome! I like digging into shit like this. I guess paying for a decent sedan does have it's bonuses once in awhile. :cool:
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 5:19 PM Permalink
Terry

She's gorgeous! You were lucky to have found each other. If only you could have had more time.

When it's my time to go, Amy and I can co-mingle in that great pond. It's where I plan to have my ashes scattered - several places along the north shore.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 7:38 PM Permalink
Clue Master

several places along the north shore

Cooler! I think I remember you being one of the only other people who even knew about Palisade Head. Is that one of your spots?

If I decide to go that route, that would probably be towards the top of my list. Mostly because people might freak out if I was dumped off the top of my building. :smile:
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 8:37 PM Permalink
Terry

Oh yeah. I love Palisade Head! The colors on a clear day are simply breathtaking.

Other spots on my list: Brighton Beach because of the people always there, off the end of the pier in Canal Park (we've made many of our decisions sitting on a bench in canal park), off the rocks at a private camp grounds we used to go all the time with the kids, the breakwater in Two Harbors and off the end of the breakwater in Grand Marais where that lighthouse is situated, and near Split Rock.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 9:00 PM Permalink
Clue Master

All great places!! :cool: :cool:
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 9:02 PM Permalink
Terry

Is there a bad place along the North Shore? I've never found one. Depending on weather and other activities, we've been talking about taking a trip up the shore on Saturday.

We both need to get back in touch with the lake. As you know, it's a spiritual thing really. It centers a person.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 9:05 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Yeah, I can't really think of a bad place either.

it's a spiritual thing really. It centers a person.

Yep

The other spiritual place for me is Camp Coldwater by Minnehaha Falls. That place makes me feel like I'm in a dream every time I go there for some reason.
Thu, 07/12/2007 - 9:29 PM Permalink
Redbear

Hey cluemaster, I hate to rain on the parade, but I'm curious - do you need to get any sort of permit to spread ashes at the places you want to spread? Probably would be worth checking out, it'll be a somber occasion and you don't want to get a ticket on top of everything else. :worried:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 6:15 AM Permalink
Eags

Laws about scattering ashes vary from state to state, and rather than state my specific intent, I would make only casual inquiries about the laws, so I know whether I'm within the law or not, but the laws won't be the determining factor.

My grief counselor was very helpful in talking this through - she used to work for a funeral home and was able to be quite detailed as to what to expect when the time comes, and gave me a lot of practical information - things I never would have thought about ahead of time.

The fireworks option sounds really cool. My friends did that for their brother, who loved fireworks. They used a service out of Los Angeles and gave him quite the send-off, complete with music: To Those About to Rock, We Salute You.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 6:48 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Permits! I don't need no stinkin' permits! There's no law where I'll be going. HeH

I'm not too worried. I speed all the time and it's only against the law if I'm caught. There's the moral law like murder and such but my morals won't hold me back from spreading any ashes. If there just happens to be the ashes police on site at the exact time I spread them, I'd be happy to pay the ticket. And then ask them why the hell they aren't out chasing all the bad speeders out there instead of waiting for an ash drop.

Not to make light of it, but that's a very light issue in my book of duties.

Plus were only talking about no more than a cup at each location. I'll still have most of her in her urn next to my bed.

My morals would stop me from spreading them by unsuspecting people like from the top of my building. :chagrin: But a cup or two into lake Superior - Not worried. Heck, I'd probably contact the news media on that one as I know there are tons of people floating around in that pond.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 9:17 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Sorry about your Grandma and Larry's Mom Tim :frown: :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 9:28 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Is that posted somewhere? I missed it if it was.

My condolences to Tim and Larry.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 11:05 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I wasn't sure if he wanted me to post it or not but I felt this thread was a good place to post things like that.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 11:17 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Speaking of, sorry about Como the kittie Becksie :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 11:17 AM Permalink
OT

Is that Tim's grandmother that died? I'm sorry, Tim.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 11:54 AM Permalink
OT

Ok, what happened to the cat?
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 11:55 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Very sick and I think Becksie had a hard decision to make today. :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 12:30 PM Permalink
me2

ooooh tim :frown:

I'm sorry too :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 12:39 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

damn...

sorry Tim

 :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 1:09 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, I will pass them on to "Pops" as well.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 2:38 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Sorry Tim :frown:
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 4:01 PM Permalink
KITCH

sorry tim....hug
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 8:48 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

sounds like there is going to be a little story about her in tomorrow's paper so look for that probably near the other obits.
Fri, 07/13/2007 - 8:49 PM Permalink
Mr. Med Hunter

Tim, sorry to hear of your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers!
Sat, 07/14/2007 - 4:30 AM Permalink
Terry

Tim, our condolences to you and your family. She obviously was a very dear and caring person.
Sat, 07/14/2007 - 6:20 AM Permalink
Eags

Tim, I am so sorry for your loss.
Sat, 07/14/2007 - 6:20 AM Permalink
Clue Master

She was kind of the mother of us all

Nice obit. She sounded like a great woman. Sad loss
Sat, 07/14/2007 - 9:59 AM Permalink
diggin4it

So sorry to hear of your loss Tim and Pops....
Sat, 07/14/2007 - 10:03 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Thank you all for the condolences and words of support, it does mean a lot to know that we have so many good friends thinking of us. Pops thanks everyone as well.

One comforting thought that I had the other day... For all my life I have loved little kids, and that's something I definitely got from my grandma so whenever I have an interaction with a little kid or a baby I will think of her and know that she is watching over me and part of her is always with me. I know it sounds sappy, and it is but it's true and its comforting so there.
Sun, 07/15/2007 - 8:25 AM Permalink
Clue Master

so there

Sappy - yes, but as long as it's comforting, who give a sh!t. I'm glad to see you recognize the impact she had on your life. You are good with children Tim. And I thank your Grams for that as well.
Sun, 07/15/2007 - 8:34 AM Permalink
Eags

Found this quote the other day - one of the best I've seen:


Grief remains one of the few things that has the power to silence us. It is a whisper in the world and a clamor within. More than sex, more than faith, even more than its usher, death, grief is unspoken, publicly ignored except for those moments at the funeral that are over too quickly, or the conversations among the cognoscenti, those of us who recognize in one another a kindred chasm deep in the center of who we are.



    -Anna Quindlen (b. 1952), U.S. journalist, columnist, author. The New York Times, sect. A, p. 23 (May 4, 1994)
Sun, 07/15/2007 - 9:08 AM Permalink
Eags

JOE!!!!!
Sun, 07/15/2007 - 9:11 AM Permalink