I think you should make them go up to Duluth. It would be a shame to travel all the way from France to Minnesota and not see the great lake of Superior. North shore would be even better. I don't think they have stuff like that in France do they?
didn't get a voice mail :frown: but yes, gordy won valley fair tickets for being smarter than stacy :sillygrin: I'll have to tell him you heard it :smile:
I heard gordy laugh and I hit the steering wheel and said "yup, thats gordy" and then when he mentioned Desert Storm I was laughing and saying "thats definately gordy!" - I loved it! made my day
Whitney will miss her - it was like having a celebrity for a house guest, however, the stardom has warm off a little. My Sarah already has been pulling away the last couple of days and wanting her own space again, but she is pretty independent anyhow.
Im taking the girls to the bluff for some last day photos with the city and then off to my work to get some local history books for her to take home, then to Target and the MOA again this afternoon and then to the airport by 4:45 - her flight leaves about 7-7:30
her last minute shopping list of items to bring home are:
Who lived here? Internet and old papers can help reveal a house's history
By MELISSA KOSSLER DUTTON,AP
Posted: 2007-08-07 11:35:35
Jenne Scigo's curiosity about the original owner of her home began before she even took possession of the 100-year-old Victorian. While looking at the house with a real-estate agent, she noticed small carvings of lions and bears around the windows in its two parlors.
"What made them choose wild animals?" she wondered.
After Scigo and her husband, Rob Erickson, bought the house in Fremont, Neb., she used records from the deed office at the courthouse, building permits, newspaper archives and files from the historical society to research the history of the house and its former occupants.
"I was kind of hoping my house had an interesting history to it," says Scigo, a 28-year-old software designer who always dreamed of restoring an old home. Learning about the previous owners makes her feel connected to the property.
Owners of older houses often develop a sentimental curiosity: It's common to wonder about who slept in the bedrooms, cooked in the kitchen or entertained in the living room.
Research has become easier as more records are posted online, and amateur historians trade information and strategies via the Internet.
There generally are two kinds of information to look for when delving into a home's history: previous owners, and physical changes to the property or structure.
Creating a list of former owners is a natural first step. Some of that information can be obtained from local deed offices, says Georgen Charnes, curator of library and archives at the Nantucket (Mass.) Historical Association. Deeds are a good starting point because you begin with the present owner and work backward.
"Find out who owned it before you and who owned it before them and who owned it before them," she says.
To learn who designed a building and what renovations have occurred, visit the local office that handles building permits. Permits may have been filed when electrical, plumbing or other construction work was done.
Detailed maps created for the insurance industry also may contain rewards for house sleuths. The most popular, called Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps, give block-by-block renderings of many cities. Created between 1867 and 1961, they were periodically updated. Some include information about construction materials and what a building's primary use was.
Consult as many sources as possible, advises Jana Armstead, manager of the Research and Building Permit Collection at Ramsey County Historical Society in St. Paul, Minn. Much depends on who happened to write out the permits or forms. She loves finding paperwork from conscientious clerks who filled in all the blanks and added handwritten notes.
"We're completely at the mercy of the people that filed these documents," she says.
Robert Goodspeed, a graduate student who used to work for a research company, located the original, 1885 building permit for the brick row house he rents in Washington. He says he spent 15 to 20 hours researching the building and its former tenants by looking at census records, city directories and newspaper archives.
"None of the skills you need are very complicated," he says. "It just takes a little time."
Goodspeed undertook the project to feel connected to his new hometown.
"I'm a newcomer to Washington, D.C.," he says. "Many of the previous residents are similar to me - younger people coming to the city looking for opportunities."
Census records, taken every 10 years beginning in 1790, may provide names, occupations, birthplaces and ages of a home's occupants.
City directories, the forerunner to today's phonebooks, often listed names, addresses, occupations, spouses and children, and whether occupants owned or rented. Some larger cities began publishing the directories in the late 18th century, and they became widely popular in the 1800s.
Amy Handford found old upholstery tools during the restoration of her 1877 Gothic Stick and Italianate home in St. Paul. The city directory confirmed that the original owners, Michael and Rose Walter, ran a nearby upholstery shop, she says.
Handford believes the Walters were German immigrants because a German newspaper from 1877 was found attached to a stud in the kitchen. The neighborhood was predominantly German during the late 1800s.
"We were finding things all the time," she says. "We found a petrified banana peel with an electrician's card from the '20s in the ceiling. I was just fascinated."
Scigo learned the name of her house's original owner - Ross Hammond - from a printout the Fremont deed office gave her listing all transactions related to the property. A Google search revealed Hammond was the editor of the town paper, which his family owned.
Scigo then went to the historical society. The lives of prominent citizens are more likely to be chronicled in newspapers, but even short obituaries and marriage notices can offer insights. She learned that Hammond was raised a Quaker, married in 1885, had four children, and was active in civic organizations and politics.
She also learned something about two of the house's other previous owners: a beloved college math professor who listed "maintaining a house" as one of his hobbies in a work survey, and a piano teacher who gave lessons in the front parlor.
The animal carvings in the parlor? Well, some things are still a mystery.
But Scigo is happy with her progress.
"I'm just amazed," she says, "that I found any information at all about the people that owned my house."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
unfortunately I'm not involved with that. They have the space to store the artifacts. However, I would like a piece of the concrete or brick for my own personal rock/brick collection.
Landmark Center
I like this panorama shot taken of your castle. Cool vantage point. St. Paul Hotel?
Largest freshwater lake (by area, I think) in the world.
Would be so great for your visitor to see it, for those globally important and awesome reasons, as well as for the rugged beauty.
She would love Goosberry falls.
http://www.northshoreinfo.com/lakesuperior/index.html
thought I heard Gordy on the radio last week - win passes to valleyfair.
miss you!
Im taking the girls to the bluff for some last day photos with the city and then off to my work to get some local history books for her to take home, then to Target and the MOA again this afternoon and then to the airport by 4:45 - her flight leaves about 7-7:30
her last minute shopping list of items to bring home are:
Peanut Butter
Oreo cookies
cheese wiz
reese peanut butter cups and m&m's
kiss cheek kiss cheek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr5P_HRw62I&mode=related&search=
starts at 2:39
When you feel the sunlight
Fade into the cold night
Dont know where to turn
I dont know where to turn
And all the dreams youre dreaming
Seem to lose their meaning
Let me in your world
Baby, let me in your world
All you need is someone you can hold
Dont be sad, youre not alone
I will be here for you
Somewhere in the night
Somewhere in the night
Ill shine a light for you
Somewhere in the night
Ill be standing by
I will be here for you
In this world of strangers
Of cold unfriendly faces
Someone you can trust
Oh theres someone you can trust
I will be your shelter
Ill give you my shoulder
Just reach out for my love
Reach out for my love
Call my name and my heart will hear
I will be there, theres nothing to fear
When you tell me that it'll be ok,
Ya I try to believe you,
But I don't
When you say that it's gonna be,
It always turns out to be a different way,
I try to believe you,
Not today, today, today, today, today...
I don't know how to feel,
tomorrow, tomorrow,
I don't know what to say,
tomorrow, tomorrow
Is a different day
It's always been up to you,
It's turning around,
It's up to me,
I'm gonna do what I have to do,
just do
Gimme a lil time,
Leave me alone a little while,
Maybe it's not too late,
not today, today, today, today, today...
I don't know how to feel,
tomorrow, tomorrow,
I don't know what to say,
tomorrow, tomorrow
Is a different day
And I know I'm not ready,
Maybe tomorrow
And I wanna believe you,
When you tell me that it'll be ok,
Ya I try to believe you,
Not today, today, today, today, today...
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/who-lived-here-internet-and-old-papers/n20070807113509990015
Who lived here? Internet and old papers can help reveal a house's history
By MELISSA KOSSLER DUTTON,AP
Posted: 2007-08-07 11:35:35
Jenne Scigo's curiosity about the original owner of her home began before she even took possession of the 100-year-old Victorian. While looking at the house with a real-estate agent, she noticed small carvings of lions and bears around the windows in its two parlors.
"What made them choose wild animals?" she wondered.
After Scigo and her husband, Rob Erickson, bought the house in Fremont, Neb., she used records from the deed office at the courthouse, building permits, newspaper archives and files from the historical society to research the history of the house and its former occupants.
"I was kind of hoping my house had an interesting history to it," says Scigo, a 28-year-old software designer who always dreamed of restoring an old home. Learning about the previous owners makes her feel connected to the property.
Owners of older houses often develop a sentimental curiosity: It's common to wonder about who slept in the bedrooms, cooked in the kitchen or entertained in the living room.
Research has become easier as more records are posted online, and amateur historians trade information and strategies via the Internet.
There generally are two kinds of information to look for when delving into a home's history: previous owners, and physical changes to the property or structure.
Creating a list of former owners is a natural first step. Some of that information can be obtained from local deed offices, says Georgen Charnes, curator of library and archives at the Nantucket (Mass.) Historical Association. Deeds are a good starting point because you begin with the present owner and work backward.
"Find out who owned it before you and who owned it before them and who owned it before them," she says.
To learn who designed a building and what renovations have occurred, visit the local office that handles building permits. Permits may have been filed when electrical, plumbing or other construction work was done.
Detailed maps created for the insurance industry also may contain rewards for house sleuths. The most popular, called Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps, give block-by-block renderings of many cities. Created between 1867 and 1961, they were periodically updated. Some include information about construction materials and what a building's primary use was.
Consult as many sources as possible, advises Jana Armstead, manager of the Research and Building Permit Collection at Ramsey County Historical Society in St. Paul, Minn. Much depends on who happened to write out the permits or forms. She loves finding paperwork from conscientious clerks who filled in all the blanks and added handwritten notes.
"We're completely at the mercy of the people that filed these documents," she says.
Robert Goodspeed, a graduate student who used to work for a research company, located the original, 1885 building permit for the brick row house he rents in Washington. He says he spent 15 to 20 hours researching the building and its former tenants by looking at census records, city directories and newspaper archives.
"None of the skills you need are very complicated," he says. "It just takes a little time."
Goodspeed undertook the project to feel connected to his new hometown.
"I'm a newcomer to Washington, D.C.," he says. "Many of the previous residents are similar to me - younger people coming to the city looking for opportunities."
Census records, taken every 10 years beginning in 1790, may provide names, occupations, birthplaces and ages of a home's occupants.
City directories, the forerunner to today's phonebooks, often listed names, addresses, occupations, spouses and children, and whether occupants owned or rented. Some larger cities began publishing the directories in the late 18th century, and they became widely popular in the 1800s.
Amy Handford found old upholstery tools during the restoration of her 1877 Gothic Stick and Italianate home in St. Paul. The city directory confirmed that the original owners, Michael and Rose Walter, ran a nearby upholstery shop, she says.
Handford believes the Walters were German immigrants because a German newspaper from 1877 was found attached to a stud in the kitchen. The neighborhood was predominantly German during the late 1800s.
"We were finding things all the time," she says. "We found a petrified banana peel with an electrician's card from the '20s in the ceiling. I was just fascinated."
Scigo learned the name of her house's original owner - Ross Hammond - from a printout the Fremont deed office gave her listing all transactions related to the property. A Google search revealed Hammond was the editor of the town paper, which his family owned.
Scigo then went to the historical society. The lives of prominent citizens are more likely to be chronicled in newspapers, but even short obituaries and marriage notices can offer insights. She learned that Hammond was raised a Quaker, married in 1885, had four children, and was active in civic organizations and politics.
She also learned something about two of the house's other previous owners: a beloved college math professor who listed "maintaining a house" as one of his hobbies in a work survey, and a piano teacher who gave lessons in the front parlor.
The animal carvings in the parlor? Well, some things are still a mystery.
But Scigo is happy with her progress.
"I'm just amazed," she says, "that I found any information at all about the people that owned my house."
On the Internet:
www.houseblogs.net
www.ancestry.com
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
08/07/07 11:34 EDT
That's pretty cool!
http://www.twincities.com/newsletter-morning/ci_6628417
Above all powers above all kings
Above all nature and all created things
Above all wisdom and all the ways of man
You were here before the world began
Above all kingdoms above all thrones
Above all wonders the world has ever known
Above all wealth and treasures of the earth
There's no way to measure what You're worth
Crucified laid behind the stone
You lived to die rejected and alone
Like a Rose trampled on the ground
You took the fall and thought of me
Above all
Above all powers above all kings
Above all nature and all created things
Above all wisdom and all the ways of man
You were here before the world began
Above all kingdoms above all thrones
Above all wonders the world has ever known
Above all wealth and treasures of the earth
There's no way to measure what You're worth
Crucified laid behind the stone
You lived to die rejected and alone
Like a Rose trampled on the ground
You took the fall and thought of me
Above all
Crucified laid behind the stone
You lived to die rejected and alone
Like a Rose trampled on the ground
You took the fall and thought of me
Above all
Like a Rose trampled on the ground
You took the fall and thought of me
Above all
This clock never seemed so alive
I can't keep up and I can't back down
I've been losing so much time
'Cause it's you and me and all of the people with nothing to do
Nothing to lose
And it's you and me and all other people
And I don't know why, I can't keep my eyes off of you
One of the things that I want to say just aren't coming out right
I'm tripping on words
You've got my head spinning
I don't know where to go from here
'Cause it's you and me and all of the people with nothing to do
Nothing to prove
And it's you and me and all other people
And I don't know why, I can't keep my eyes off of you
There's something about you now
I can't quite figure out
Everything she does is beautiful
Everything she does is right
'Cause it's you and me and all of the people with nothing to do
Nothing to lose
And it's you and me and all other people
And I don't know why, I can't keep my eyes off of you
and me and all other people with nothing to do
Nothing to prove
And it's you and me and all other people
And I don't know why, I can't keep my eyes off of you
What day is it?
And in what month?
This clock never seemed so alive
I'm not one of those who can easily hide
I don't have much money but boy if I did
I'd buy a big house where we both could live
If I was a sculptor, but then again, no
Or a man who makes potions in a travelling show
I know it's not much but it's the best I can do
My gift is my song and this one's for you
And you can tell everybody this is your song
It may be quite simple but now that it's done
I hope you don't mind
I hope you don't mind that I put down in words
How wonderful life is while you're in my world
I sat on the roof and kicked off the moss
Well a few of the verses well they've got me quite cross
But the sun's been quite kind while I wrote this song
It's for people like you that keep it turned on
So excuse me forgetting but these things I do
You see I've forgotten if they're green, brown or they're blue
Anyway the thing is what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen
And you can tell everybody this is your song
It may be quite simple but now that it's done
I hope you don't mind
I hope you don't mind that I put down in words
How wonderful life is while you're in the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2BFslh-MkE
days pass and this emptiness fills my heart
when I want to run away
I drive off in my car
but whichever way I go
I come back to the place you are
all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
in your eyes
the light the heat
in your eyes
I am complete
in your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
in your eyes
the resolution of all the fruitless searches
in your eyes
I see the light and the heat
in your eyes
oh, I want to be that complete
I want to touch the light
the heat I see in your eyes
love, I don't like to see so much pain
so much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive
and all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
in your eyes
the light the heat
in your eyes
I am complete
in your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
in your eyes
the resolution of all the fruitless searches
in your eyes
I see the light and the heat
in your eyes
oh, I want to be that complete
I want to touch the light,
the heat I see in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
Empty Hands held high
Such Small sacrifice
If not joined with my life
I sing in vain tonight
May the words I say
And the things I do
Make my lifesong sing
Bring a smile to you
Chorus:
Let my lifesong sing to You
Let my lifesong sing to You
I want to sign your name
to the end of this day
Knowing that my heart was true
Let my lifesong sing to You
LORD, I give my life
A Living sacrifice
To reach a world in need
To be your hands and feet
So may the words I say
And the things I do
Make my lifesong sing
Bring a smile to You
Chorus
Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
Let my lifesong sing to You
My Spirit is left wanting something more
Than my selfish hopes/ and my selfish dreams
IÂ’m lying with my face down to the floor
IÂ’m crying out for more
Give me Words to speak
DonÂ’t let my Spirit sleep
Cause I canÂ’t think of anything worth saying
But I know that I owe You my life
So give me Words to speak
DonÂ’t let my Spirit sleep
Every night, every day/ I find that I have nothing left to say
So I stand here in silence awaiting Your guidance
IÂ’m wanting only Your voice to be heard
Let them be Your Words
I just donÂ’t understand this life that IÂ’ve been living
I just donÂ’t understand
I just donÂ’t understand
I just donÂ’t understand these lies IÂ’ve been believing
I just donÂ’t understand
I just donÂ’t understand
go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go
go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go