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Clue #1 You've joined the hunt for the regal runt
To prove searching does pay
Don't dig a hole or knock down a pole
And the golf course is out of play
Last year Jake took home the cake
With a clue a bit off level
This year we'll rinse off all our prints
Lest this hunt go to the devil
Clue #2 The point of all this is so that you won't miss
Your big chance to grab all the cash
Now gather your guys and a gal who is wise
You'll have to do something quite rash
Clue #3 We've scanned the county to hide our bounty
And keep you on your toes
It may sound risible, but our puck's invisible
Although it might just stick to your nose.
Clue #4 How fun is the snow how far will we go
You really ought to go see
Get up for the mission and not just the wishin'
Get into the game-it's all free
Clue #5 There once was a clue that drove you-know-who
To threaten a heinous act
We'd use it again but we're afraid of his pen
My friend, that's an unfortunate fact
Clue #6 All ye who look should honor the book
As one who stood for hope
Much was built in the name of the kilt
Look sharp now and never mope
Clue #7 If you should go look high then low
One could see it from a bower
If it's your bent you might seek a tent
To protect in case of shower
Take note of the wood and do what you should
To extract the prize for yourself
Build a bridge to your dreams as high as they seem
Leave nothing behind on the shelf
Clue #8 Look at the buck to acquire good luck
In finding the grail this year
Link a jar,a line, a star lawyer divine
While crying in your beer
He won, then lost and the nation was tossed
Into strife that was far from civil
The point I'm making is yours for the taking
Believe me - not the message board drivel
Clue #9 This name brings tears, elation and cheers
And occasionally even outrages
It sits on walls and rides the halls
And fills a dozen pages
The hills are alive and you'll have arrived
Refrain from the very injurious
Be bold and be brave but your skin you must save
What's off-limits should frankly be obvious
Clue #10 Look for the sight you hope is just right
You're doubtful and you're torn
Make the rounds for what rhymes with grounds
And part of a rose with a horn
Through flames and flow this park where you'll go
Is the site of sacred relics
Stay away from these and the cliffs if you please
Or you'll be in a heckuva fix
Clue #11 Air and river sounds lead all to Mounds
Far from the graves take your entourage
Twixt Burns and Thorn, an icy pathway is born
Across Mounds from a gray house and tan garage
Hell no fury hath as those on the wrong path
Mounds and Warner form a woodsy perimeter
The path not official contains footprints beneficial
Some 300 trudges in - quest for a quitter
This trail you must follow goes down a narrow hollow
Under a fallen tree to an old rusted drum
From here you must search for a hillside path perch
Wherein lies the center of fun
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I don't think it has changed since then, here's why: 02 was quick and lame, so 03 was a bit harder. 04-06 not worthy of mention CW got in a groove. 07 smacks you in the face, forcing you to think on the spot and plop some clues together as you think of where to hide it, as you are driving to Central. You don't want to do it again, so we have this crap this year.
Part of my reasoning it was at a smaller park was that they had everyone from one big park to another. A clever cluewrither could make the clues fit big park but also a smaller one that most people would right off. Like my sister said it would a "revenge of the CW" They could hide in a small park with not a lot of snow and it still go at least 10 clues.
Get a rope! :wink:
There is a typo in the Hudson Map Book. Or at least there is in my old one--my new one doesn't have it. Anyhoo--Nason Place in Como park, the road that goes right past the Schiller Statue and in fron of the Conservatory is listed as Mason Place.
So, honor the book, see? And the Mason Jar etc? And Schiller, get this was a Mason!
There was other stuff, like the name on the walls and the Halls we got to be Ordway. Like Ordway hall. And every museum you've ever been in the Cities has Ordway on the wall as a donor. And there's the Ordway Japanese garden in Como! Right off of Nason/Mason!
I'm telling you, it just seemed so easy.
It sounded like a riddle, but in fact, it wasn't...
It was right after he found it and before he turned it in. He said that he dug out one area really good then started walking around and saw a set of footprints that looked odd so he decided to check out that area. I think he said it more than once. Not that I don't give Jake credit for being out in the parks digging so early. It's just I don't know if it's technically inaccurate when he may not have dug that area had he not seen the footprints.
I thought some of the purpose here was to inrease the chances that someone from the whole group would find, not a select few. I know that no one HAS to share anything, but when people (AW) come in here and say we're all wrong and that he and a few others know the right park (kellog) and no ones telling, its kinda sad. Play how you want, but pretty soon some people will stop playing when they are exlcuded like that.
There are sore winners, too. Ambulances with WWWWAAAA is, in my book, a sore winner and pushing the envelope.
I think we were all winners, in different ways. I know I was.
But Allison, I gotta say... At least you didn't make the Clues fit Iris. So, you won! :sillygrin: :sillygrin: :sillygrin:
In all honesty, if you have something good enough to go on that you don't want to share, by all means, go check it out, even if you've got a group. There's plenty of ways to communicate amongst people besides here anyway. Beyond that, I've lived most of my life not always knowing what a group is up to, I'm comfortable with it, I do my own thing a lot of the time anyway. Hence why I didn't participate in the conference call, nor a lot of the mock hunts besides reading clues and trying to figure them out.
I'm not here to take people's ideas and run with them anyways. It's nice to have others to bounce ideas off of (we all tend to make silly assumptions or mistakes) most of the hunt is brainstorming anyway. But the winnings couldn't possibly be split amongst the whole cooler crew anyway, so there will always be great ideas that don't get posted.
Plus there is the fact that if by some small chance it was a small park, I'm not going to post it here and have someone post on the PP site and have 200 people flood a 2 acre park.
I was so TORN. The Clues could fit either area of the Regional Park and I thought it was be rash to go down where most people don't even realize is park land.
I tree-mailed Kitch, thinking it was he who'd posted about the fish hatchery,etc., and he said, "You're in Kellogg!" I got so confused and then realized it was YOU so tree-mailed you to go south.
At least we got one thing going for us, we know what geobeacons are, and how to find micros in them.
I need to go find more micros in the woods, it's looking to be great training.
My computer is whacked, I wasn't getting email, some stuff was "lost" using the one I patched together, and I wasn't home much.
Sorry
I just saw the explanations.
Clue 1= Earl. Why dont they say that? Good old doulble meaning in a lot of theese clues as usuall.
Clue2= A hard stretch for a clue 2, but plausible I guess. I would have never gotten the star part untill way after clue 8. So the only thing that made sense to me was one word. Point Pretty much impossible clue
clue 3= What its in= totally worthless on how to find it
Clue 4=Complete crap
Clue 5=we had this
Clue 6=explanation is complete crap. It meant Built in the name of the KillED and their being PC about it.
Clue 7=complicated, but does talk about the actual location. Good clue IMHO
Clue 8=Deer in the park? Paleeze! The rest was good though.
Clue 9=1st part of clue=crap. Why waste our time with that drivel? How does Johnson ride the halls? tears, elation, cheers, and outrage= Johnson? WTF! 2nd part was good
Clue 10=easy clue
Clue 11=they did the same thing in crosby (with the life board thing) and wrote a clue about a movable object. Stupid!! Of course if your there early and Get up for the mission and not just the wishin' (arm chair hunting)-Get into the game (actually go to a park) then you'd be ok and know where it was (maybe)
Clue 12= obvious
"Guys and wise gal" refer indirectly to the Order of the Eastern Star, a male-and-female fraternal organization that is an offshoot of the Masons, and which planted a star-shaped "Matron's Grove" of trees at Indian Mounds park. A "rash" often accompanies a burn -- an indirect allusion - you've got to be kidding me... it says "A GAL who is wise" and they're going to get the Order of the Eastern Star out of that? and a rash accompanies a burn? I worked fast food for 5 years and got burnt all the time - never got any rashes. Even if you're talking sunburn that STILL is not a RASH.
"And keep you on your toes" - As I believe somebody pointed out, it is not a smart idea to stay on your toes going up a hill, as they tell us to do in the explanation.
Clues 4 and 5, going by the explanations, served as nothing more than bait for other parks. To say that making these two clues fit Mounds is a stretch, that would be an understatement. And the French Immersion School being not far from Indian Mounds? It's closer to Phalen... then referencing some small obscure article they did on it is ridiculous.
Clue 6 is one clue I liked, and am satisfied with the explanation for. Clue 7 - I guess bower had no significance whatsoever, and the way this clue is worded is deliberately meant to suggest "Maple" but I can accept it... it's far from the worst of this bunch.
"Look at the buck to acquire good luck" - "There are deer in Indian Mounds Park - (....speechless....)
While crying in your beer - Had they been more clever they could've mentioned something about "Sobbing" in your beer and equated it with Obbs... but that's expecting more than this clue writer can handle.
Clue 9's explanation is horrendous in so many ways I won't even get into it.
Clue 10 - Okay now lets tell everyone the park and the next clue the spot to look, and lets basically say nothing from the previous clues has any relevance whatsoever now. Oh, and to boot, lets make reference to a movable object that hunters have to find and hope it's still in the right spot. Good thinking.
bleh.
Having spent around 11 years seriously hunting, I've spent similar amounts of time with this CW as I had with Boxmeyer. This was possibly the worst set of clues I've seen yet. It's one thing if you can throw people off to different parks without having to stretch your clues to fit the ACTUAL park it's in. That would define a truly good clue writer. It's a completely different thing when you have to purposefully stretch your clues into the depths of obscurity (and then admit it) to fit your park, but they fit well with tons of other parks. That to me indicates someone who should hand over the title.
And this crap with the woods every year has to end. It's getting beyond old.
Anyway, don't mind me... I'm through venting now. I feel better. :sillygrin:
I picked going from upper, IM, to lower, BC. I picked wrong. Hindsight being whatittiz... That section of Mounds *is* lower than the Upper Afton overlook.
Kellogg park in 1997 (i'm not sure if any other years) had an ice skating rink called "Regal rink" the strange part was the larger rink was at Osborn Plaza. Which I think is now Ecolab's plaza.
I honestly thought that their would be a something to find on clue one and knew this could be a long shot but was holding onto it after day one.
clue 2. Guys and Gal
after clue 1...and had a hunch...I would have perferred this clue on clue3 or 4 as It just helped confirm my first clue find.
http://fieldguide.fmr.org/site_detail.php?site_id=259
your guys and gal...The plaza has images and words related to Frank B. Kellogg ("defended the law"); Harriet Bishop ("Began St.Paul's first school"); Cass Gilbert ("designed the State Capitol"); and Father Lucien Galtier ("founded St.Paul").
something rash = run one block from Ma Press
clue 3-
Keep you on your toes - I believed was for the GrandRiver Ballroom at the Crowne Plaza
3M tape...simple enuff. Most of us thought this over time.
I also thought maybe it could be stuck to something and might have took a new shape..maybe camo'd extremely well.
clue 4
FAR_GO right downtown.
Mission - Father Galtier's location for his first church.
Into the game...its all free...there is a sign that says free parking for wild games on the crowne plaza.
clue 5
for this one I was reaching...and I liked AW's reason for this better.
somebody asked me "is it 2 or 3?" I ran with that...
Kellogg used to be 3rd street. And was renamed to Kellogg.
clue 6
I'm forgetting part of this and why else I liked it...but "built in the name" of Kilt a scottish mason rite..just down on plato..can see the sign
I was worried about this as the reference of Mason came up again.
oh and a guy named I think was Johnson was part-scottish and owned this area at one time..was a wheat farmer (I can't find this again).
clue 7
bower= the arbor
cedar=extract it from the wood
also thought was wabashaw bridge
clue #8
buck= ONE the bank ONE
mason= the plato ave mason lodge and I could see the sign
Crying beer= the detox center just one block over
one and lost...I wasn't sure if Wellstone/Robert was reaching..I admit.
clue 9
this one took me a long time...as I wanted to make sure it wasn't Mounds..Since I had my hopes just CRUSHED at this point...
but I thought it could be wellstone...or rails...
it wasn't until AW said dozen pages...
I was able to google for about an hour and find that wellstone had 12 pages that he had an influence on getting appointed...omg...that was hard to find on the internet..
but...
you can find many references to the Chief WABASHAW (spelling is right) and this phrase
""Explorers found hills, valleys alive with Indians"
clue 10...
reality set in that I gave the CW too much credit for being crafty and clever.
reality set in that I gave the CW too much credit for being crafty and clever.
Exactly.
build a bridge to your dreams as high as they seem = high bridge visible from kellogg
Wellstone is the name on the wall outside + its a school hall and he was senator for 12 years, i thought it fit perfect...
guys and gals, kitch explained.
Bower=anchor, anchor statue in Kellog
Crying in your beer = ceramic decorative plates on the railing at Kellog of pigs eye beer.
rash = right up the street.
How far will we go= just two blocks away.
grab the cash = us bank and Wells Fargo clearly visible from Kellogg
Off level = the entire park is at a slope
Kellogg felt good to me as well after i left the Phalen train and b4 i hoped on Mounds.
The Ramsey county jail is at one end of the park and the Ramsey county govt center is at the other.
I honestly told and bounced ideas of many people in the parks, line, bar. I told many people I was in Kellogg and I told them if they came over I'd point out things or let them see for themselves.
I felt I was right and Kellogg was just 2 small of a park to let many people talk about it.
I had to go with my gut feeling on this one...and well...I was wrong...
another part of my thoughts on this was that I was stuck at home from Tues. to Friday and was bouncing off the walls wanting to tear that park apart by myself.
let me ask you this...the island on keller...you ran...why didn't you tell all the hard core coolers where you ran. WHY?? because it wasn't that big and you knew you could look at it.
I just got an offer for a free trip to Vegas for 4 days in late Feb/Early March, with a few of my girlfriends - but *if* I can pull off a trip there either later this spring or early summer - I'd like to put together a hunt for ya'll. perhaps a 3 or 4 dayee, which means ya'll will have it figured out in 1.
ps - incase any of you need a shirt... I've got lots in inventory..
the finder from the town KNAPP, WI
that town must be full of CAMOCRUE family members...
now...one of the trees on the eastern star was planted by with the grandma of "lorrainne KNAPP"
hmmm
now Camo TERRY KNAPP has lunch with Boxmeyer from time to time...oh boy...
next year I'm going to have maps of every big down tree in the city..
man am I glad they cleaned up the como storm.
and just dig on those...startin' day 1...
so there...
I'l stop whining now.
mucky
dersky
kat
randy
CM
me2
Tim
Eags
Terry
IAN
but man that park was tiny..didnt' find out until after IAN tore it apart that it was bigger than I thought
The biggest problem I have had when i keep an idea to myself is that I get stuck on a park or idea and start forcing it...digging for way to long in the wrong area.
I try to rember I am always wrong. It is amazing how often the CC gets the clues right. Befor the CC when I would see the explanations I would get 2-3 a hunt right, and usually 2-3 that was for the wrong reason.
We should be very proud of the team work we have shown the past 10 years.
Thanks for the props way up thread, mrmikey. :smile:
Regarding keeping things close to the vest, I'm out of the loop too, but that's partially my fault. I don't go to Matty B's or hunt with other folks from here. I have a big enough crew already with seven children, most of whom enjoy hunting themselves. But I see no reason for anyone to come in here just to say "you're all wrong, and I'm right so you're wasting your time" and not back it up with why we're wrong. And it's kind of sweet when it turns out we weren't wrong after all. :smile: