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and young.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 8:12 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Political version of a hail mary pass with 3 seconds on the clock.

It's just too bad they were down 9 :wink:
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 8:39 AM Permalink
KITCH

she Worked as sports reporter for two Anchorage television stations
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 9:44 AM Permalink
KITCH

Palin is strongly opposed to abortion and supports capital punishment.

this statement has always confused me...
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 9:48 AM Permalink
KITCH

Governor Palin is currently under investigation by an independent investigator hired by a legislative panel hired to determine if she abused her power when firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. [44] On July 11, 2008, Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down.[45][44] Monegan alleged shortly after his dismissal that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[46] In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[47]

Palin asserted that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[48] Palin acknowledged that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[48] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions. Commissioner Monegan received no severance pay, though at the same time another dismissed Commissioner, Charles Kopp (who served only 11 days) received $10,000.[49]

In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that "Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time."[50] The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[51] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[48][52]

interesting drama
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 9:51 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

I think McCain's purpose for Palin on the ticket is plain and simple - even if he dies, the next President will still want to drill in ANWAR no matter what. Exxon, Mobil or somebody in big oil has the Republicans bought & paid for.

This whole decision absolutely reeks of Dick Cheney's doing. Haliburton is one of the companies poised to gain the most from opening up ANWAR - they already have several depots of equipment up there ready to go in.

I'm telling you, if the Gov't EVER approves drilling in ANWAR, Haliburton and the others will have pipes in the ground sucking oil in less than 12 hours.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 10:58 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Also she can nominate judges for the Supreme Court that will overturn Roe v. Wade if he doesn't outlive Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:42 PM Permalink
KITCH

that didn't take long
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:57 PM Permalink
ares

evidently she's been on someone's list for a while.

the domain's been registered since the 4th of august.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:59 PM Permalink
Terry

Confuses me too.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 2:23 PM Permalink
Terry

MD - I wouldn't bet against you on this point. I believe you hit it right on the head.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 2:25 PM Permalink
ares

that assumes, of course, that his selection of her doesn't turn off the moderates he desperately needs in order to win.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 3:29 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

I'll be announcing my vice presidential running mate, sometime next week....

the location of my speech, is still sketchy.... Im thinking possibly the amphitheater at Phalen....

until then, I'll be keeping the name a complete secret. :cool:

I will say though, that Tim Pawlenty is not my choice.
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 4:10 PM Permalink
ares

tim isn't much of anyone's choice these days nick :smile:
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 5:22 PM Permalink
girlbassist

My very first thought on the Pawlenty veep theory..?

That's right McCain.. announce him as your running mate, and lose MN.. which you kinda need to win.. but wtf do I know?
Fri, 08/29/2008 - 8:46 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I KNEW he'd pick a woman... especially after him saying that he is going to wait until after Obama picked his to decide --- if he picked Hillary or not - thus making her choice meaningless, -or- an early mention of her as running-mate might push Obama to have chosen Clinton, something Republicans would have feared greatly...

Not so sure how well this is really supposed to help him though, not the 'novelty' (If you want to look at it that way) that Clinton would have been - We have had a female contender for VP before... let's see how well that went...

Fri, 08/29/2008 - 8:59 PM Permalink
KITCH

so the drama begins....

http://politicalfleshfeast.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4810

Okay, so Bristol, Sarah Palin's wild child daughter, was living it up. Being the daughter of a high powered Republican does weird things to lady, just ask Jenna Bush.

So there she was snorting diet pills and smoke the weed, when low and behold, she got preggies.

So they had to move the family away from Juneau to Anchorage where Bristol had to drop out of school for months because of mono!

I don't know why they didn't go old school and say they found the baby under a bush, but the mono route it was.

Now the wild and weird shit is Sarah then pretended to have the child to cover up for the fact that her daughter was sleeping around like Wilt Chamberlane.

Can't really consider a third-rate poli-blog gossip and bitch-fest an "actual story", but point taken.
Sat, 08/30/2008 - 5:30 AM Permalink
zephyrus

I think I'd get fired... or at least get really nasty glances at work...
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 2:34 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Question 3: How many votes do you need to override a Presidential veto?

Question 4: Who is the President?

As long as we're asking stupid questions in here.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 7:23 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

When you asked meaningless leading questions that you already know the answer to I figured I would save us some time and jump straight to dismantling your ridiculous attempt at making a point.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 7:38 PM Permalink
ares

nice how he posts and then deletes the posts in between. i look forward to seeing his answers to your questions tim. but since i doubt that we will see those answers, i'll combine all four questions into one and answer them all at once. given the state of congress at the moment, without enough support to overide a presidential veto, for all intents and purposes hm george vi (mis)appropriates funds to the us government.

class dismissed.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:26 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

We knew what you were trying to say, it wasn't all that subtle.

I don't think I've seen anyone anywhere claim Democrats should be immune from criticism about the Iraq war.

I think claiming that passing the most current war funding makes them equally responsible is a stretch even if it were somehow possible for the Dems to freeze funding to Iraq and get away with it.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:46 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Golly... I thought you could only blame those who directly cast their vote to fund the war. Heck, if I knew you could just lump people together into groups and blame them all, I'd have raised my voice against white people a long time ago. :pbpt:
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:51 PM Permalink
ares

sorry dude. gotta call bullshit on that one. if the republicans hadn't started it in the first place it wouldn't be there now for the democrats to fund.

that said, its very difficult to pass a budget with no funding for the war in iraq when the president has the power to veto everything that comes across his desk, and the 2/3 supermajority doesn't exist to do anything about it.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:54 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Where is my money? Who will fund me? I want a Class C RV dammit. If this next deployment goes through as planned, do I earn a second vote?
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:56 PM Permalink
ares

me, i'll just blame kitch.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:56 PM Permalink
zephyrus

That you are going to have to switch avatars to the snow miser? :smile:
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 8:59 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Nice to see you, btw.

Now I have to go to bed, so I hope I don't see you for at least the next 8 hours or so. :wink:
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 9:01 PM Permalink
ares

lets see what the choices are.

1) the entire democrat contingent in congress votes against the budget submitted by the president, instead voting for their own budget, which contains exactly $0 for the war. naturally, the president vetos said budget. gridlock ensues.

2) congress as a whole votes in favor of the presidential budget and it gets signed. congress critters who vote in favor of said budget receive criticism in places they didn't even know existed.

3) somehow there is a compromise between the blue congress and the red white house.

since number 3 would involve a lot of smoking something illegal, this leaves us options 1 or 2. your call.
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 9:02 PM Permalink
KITCH

T. PAUL, Minn., Aug 31, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Human Rights Organization Will Tour Cell Across the Nation Urging the Bush Administration to Close Detention Facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

ST. PAUL, Minn., Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Today, Amnesty International USA (AIUSA) brought its national tour of a life-size Guantanamo prison cell replica to St. Paul, Minnesota. This tour is designed to increase public awareness and mount pressure on the Bush administration and Congress to close down the U.S.-controlled detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

AIUSA members and other activists experienced the cell replica and showed their support for the immediate closure of this prison facility two blocks away from the Xcel Center in St. Paul. Previous tour stops include Miami, Philadelphia, Portland (Maine), Washington, DC and Denver. After this stop, the cell replica will visit Los Angeles.

"In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court decision upholding the detainees' right to challenge their detention in court, and as Congress scrutinizes the authorization of harsh interrogation techniques, activists are joining the mounting chorus to urge the Bush administration to shut down Guantanamo," said Amnesty International USA's executive director Larry Cox. "It is time to counter terror with justice -- on American soil and abroad."

Five former U.S. Secretaries of State who served both Republican and Democratic presidents -- Madeline Albright, James Baker, Warren Christopher, Henry Kissinger and Colin Powell --- concurred at a recent University of Georgia roundtable discussion that closing the detention facility is important to bolstering the United States' image abroad. Even the former chief prosecutor at Guantanamo, Colonel Morris Davis, denounced the use of torture-tainted evidence in detainee trials. President Bush himself said he'd "like Guantanamo to end."

AIUSA's prison cell replica includes a steel toilet, florescent lights and a sliding metal door. In addition, visitors may record a 30-second reaction video that will be posted on http://www.youtube.com and http://www.tearitdown.org, as well as sign the global petition to shut Guantanamo down. On the outside of the cell are large LCD screens showing a timeline of illegal U.S. detentions and torture-related facts.

"Guantanamo continues to be the shameful global icon of this administration's outright disregard for basic human dignity and the rule of law," said Cox. "By assaulting core American values including the right to challenge one's incarceration and allowing techniques long associated with dictators and despots, President Bush has squandered the United States' moral leadership around the world. It's time to remove the ugly blot on the America we believe in and shut down Guantanamo."

For more information, including photographs and videos from recent cell replica tour stops, please visit http://www.amnestyusa.org or contact the AIUSA media office at 202-544-0200 x302.

SOURCE Amnesty International
Tue, 09/02/2008 - 8:54 AM Permalink
KITCH

Ron Paul's Rally for the Republic, a three-day event culminating in a rally on September 2 in at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, has sold out. Over 10,000 tickets have been sold for $17.76 each. In response to the heavy demand for seats, The Campaign for Liberty has opened up two side sections and will give these final seats away for free on site at Target Center.

The schedule for today is as follows:

9:00 am - Media lounge opens for Press

11:00 - 11:30 - Press Conference with Dr. Paul

11:30 - Doors open

12:30 - Intro: Tucker Carlson

12:40 - National Anthem: Matt Colvin

12:50 - Invocation: Barb Davis White

12:55 - Howard Phillips

1:10 - Doug Wead

1:30 - Tom Woods

1:50 - Grover Norquist

2:10 - Lew Rockwell

2:30 - Bill Kauffman

2:50 - Special Guest

3:10 - Bruce Fein

3:35 - Gov. Jesse Ventura

4:05 - John Tate, Campaign for Liberty Presentation

4:25 - Gov. Gary Johnson

5:00 - Rock Music Star Aimee Allen

6:00 - Break

7:00 - Intro: Barry Goldwater Jr.

7:05 - Ron Paul

8:05 - Country Music Superstar Sara Evans

9:30 - End of Program

9:30 - Jimmie Vaughan After Party Parking
Tue, 09/02/2008 - 9:02 AM Permalink
CerealKiller

My brother has pix. of laura Bush it is funny he said he could have triped her like 5 times in the past 2 days!! lol

he wanted to!! I would HAVE!!!
Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:38 AM Permalink
KITCH

Pawlenty, who described McCain as an "American hero," reported 35 votes for McCain during the roll call.

Pawlenty did not announce a vote total for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. But earlier in the evening, Sutton said in an interview that six delegates supported Paul.

I'm glad to see that we had 6 for Ron Paul..but disappointed that Tim didn't announce that.
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 6:16 AM Permalink
KITCH

I think since it wasn't stated at that time they go as non-votes..

but i'm not positive.
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 7:01 AM Permalink
KITCH

:pbpt:
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 7:07 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

incase you cant read the sign, it says "RNC f**k you"...

that was at the Rage show..
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 8:45 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Westmoreland calls Obama "uppity"

I am not naive enough to believe we can get rid of all racism in this country, but I don't think it's unrealistic to rid it from the ranks of our political leaders.

I know there will be a lot of people who will say "it's just a word, big deal", but I really hope most American's get to see this because the backlash he would (hopefully) receive would send the message that overt racism is not okay, not anymore.
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 1:19 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

Would "Snooty" be better? Sheesh. Seriously, I gotta take George Carlin's side on this one - word are just that - words. The power assigned to them is done by our own perceptions.

"Uppity" never was, or ever really will be a racist term in my book. We used it all the time as kids - basically as a synonym for 'Stuck Up' - and we never HAD any minorities around to MAKE it as a racist term!

Calling Obama "Uppity" sounds more like some D.C. Beltway snob trying to put down a political rookie. Whether is was meant to be a racist term or not, Obama is trying very hard not to 'go there' a prove himself a candidate that doesn't need affirmative action to get elected. I wish the press would be as graceful.

Censoring language is one of the worst things we could do as a society - it takes AWAY our freedom of speech and writing... and Oreo is the name of a COOKIE, dammit!

Wikipedia - List of Ethnic Slurs - please note: "Uppity" didn't even make their list!
Thu, 09/04/2008 - 4:04 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

If you honestly do not understand the racist undertones of calling a black man that has done well for himself and is seeking to do something no other black man has ever done uppity you have missed a big portion of American history.

Of course language has to be evaluated in context. As a white kid hanging out with other white kids wherever you were, it wasn't a racist term to you.

I don't quite understand what this has to do with affirmative action. While Obama has wisely avoided playing any sort of race card, it should not mean the other side should get free reign to play their own negative race cards.

No one is censoring this guy, he can call Obama uppity all day. He can call him the "n-word" if he wants to. But there should be consequences for using a word that is so demeaning.
Fri, 09/05/2008 - 1:45 AM Permalink
ares

its really going to be interesting to see how the race card plays out throughout this campaign. even though obama's not playing it, and if mccain doesn't want want negative repurcussions he will wisely not play it, that doesn't mean the media won't play it to improve ratings. after all, everyone loves a good controversy at election time and what a better way to stir up the public than to bring up that which has haunted us as a nation throughout its entire history.
Fri, 09/05/2008 - 3:33 AM Permalink
KITCH

“And we’re learning more and more about Governor Palin. Apparently her daughter’s real name is Juno.” -Jay Leno
Fri, 09/05/2008 - 8:43 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Well I know some history, but maybe not all. I agree with MD. I've never considered uppity a racist term.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uppity

While I personally agree with you that Obama has NOT played the race card, some others, including Bill Clinton do.

President Bill Clinton says the Obama campaign “played the race card” on him “I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it along.” - President Bill Clinton.

Link to quoted story here
Fri, 09/05/2008 - 3:37 PM Permalink