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2009 - Swede Hollow

Submitted by Clue Master on
leelabell

I was thinking about tonight

Slipknot is at the X. The WC blues fest is at Roy Wilkins. There will not be parking around the PP until this stuff is over. Does anyone think we should go to the Bulldog rather than Wild Tymes? I like the location of Wild Tymes better because it is walking distance to the paper, but I also don't want people to have to spend money on parking.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:24 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Thanks for posting that for me Tim :wink:

You're a sweetie
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:25 AM Permalink
Redbear

Post 2012 from Queenmalley, the Milton poem..."Paradise Regained."
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:26 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Slipknot!!! :cool:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:26 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I probably won't get downtown before 11 tonight. Might not even make it all, but we'll see.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:32 AM Permalink
ares

only problem with that is that the hill itself ispresumably manmade, being part of the levee system.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:33 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Is this from the PP board, Red? Then someone copy/pasted my post because I did not post that at the PP Board.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:39 AM Permalink
Redbear

No, it's from me. The title of the poem that you quoted is Paradise Regained.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:41 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

O.K. I'm spilling my guts now...


Mad_Dach5und's Complete Clue Evaluation So Far...

(Keep im mind I am doing the cardinal sin of "locking" into one location and trying to get clues to fit it - usually I get burned by clue 9 or 10)

LOCATION: SOUTHERN HALF OF MAPLEWOOD PART OF BATTLE CREEK PARK

Clue #1

Oh great King Boreas, make winter glorious:

Unleash the medallion quest! alluding to an unleashed dog area

We'll be up front: We devote the hunt

To Box, our friend, now at rest A basic clue; paying homage to Boxmeyer

Clue #2

Tramping hill and dell, you may hear tell HILLdale and DELLridge Avenue

About the contests waged of yore FALCONRY by KNIGHTS = Falcon Avenue McKnight Rd

Much of the history remains a mystery

Which we hope to bring to the fore 9 Hole Golf course nearby

Clue #3

All we see was done naturally No buildings visible at all

Water and ice are here Snow, Frozen Ponds, OPEN WATER IN THE DOG DISHES

In this harbor of impressive arbor Completely surrounded by large trees

Approach and have no fear possibly wrapped in a No Fear T-Shirt

Clue #4

Even those in detention during our recent convention, Ramsey County Lockup / Work House -- adjacent Property

Heard a politically hip chick Palin reference - Probably packed with a campaign button

Is it a pig or pit bull, it was argued most fitful, Pig farming done at County Work House, Dog Area

That looks more lovely in lipstick?

Clue #5

It takes all sorts to come and play sports first 3 lines describe perfectly the scene

In this sweet land of fun and frolic of all kinds of dogs playing in that off leash area

With bower enclosed and beasts exposed

You're bound to lose your colic Possible anagram: So you noodle our bicycle tour (Bike Trails)

Clue #6

The dankness of the vale may your spirit impale: Thick stand of pines trees north of Dog Play Area

The setting seems oh so gloomy! - so thick they block out the sun

But be brave, you endless knave, alluding to endless supply of crooks in County Lockup

You'll find it really quite roomy.
This pine tree area looks small when you approach it, but it's really hundreds of yards long:

The area may not be "Dank" now, but its surrounded by ponds and swamp - it sure as hell is "Dank" in the summer!

Another anagram: "Your Spirit Impale" = "Your Tip: Maple Iris"

Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:41 AM Permalink
40below

Nice noodles MD.

I remember last year you pinpointed that little piece of public land, wasn't it by Keller? Got pretty much every part of every clue to fit there, lol

We'll see. I'm sold on the aforementioned park that's been discussed, and will be heading out within the hour. :grin:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:44 AM Permalink
queenmalley

I think Dank is in reference to the caves near Dayton's Bluff: ie Carver's Cave, and the other famous one with the native american drawings. It is NOT in them, but is a reference to the area.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:48 AM Permalink
queenmalley

That is in the Swede vacinity.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:49 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Phalen's accusation of murdering someone, his beaten body was discovered in Carver's Cave. I will post the link if I can re-find it.

TOO many open tabs on my computer!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:50 AM Permalink
40below

I think dank was included specifically for the aforementioned anagram, but it also does describe the area

gotta give the CW props on that one
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:51 AM Permalink
leelabell

Carver Cave (I think that's the name of it) is in the Bruce Vento Sanctuary, which is basically next to Swede.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:54 AM Permalink
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I don't have this all nicely packaged, but those who are liking Swede Hollow here's some info I found:

Swede Hollow is nestled between the Dayton's Bluff and Railroad Island communities in the ravine that once carried Phalen Creek to the Mississippi River. The first settler to the picturesque valley was Edward Phalen in 1841 the Bruce Vento Regional Trail now connects Swede Hollow to Phalen Park(Things pointing to Phalen might mean a phalen other than the park)

Talk of making Swede Hollow a park can be traced back to 1900, when Park Commissioner William Hamm was trying to get fellow commissioners in favor of Swede Hollow becoming a city park in memory of his father Theodore Hamm (founder of the brewery in the north end of the Hollow, which eventually became the Stroh Brewery Company.(pig referece)

The early industry attracted Swedish immigrants who settled just south of the industrial area and named the valley Svenska Dalen or Swede Hollow. As the Swedish moved "up onto the street", other immigrant people moved into the homes: the Polish, Italian and then the Spanish Americans. (people have mentioned clues pointing to immigrants, also could relate to "it takes all sorts"

Swedish Enclave & Swede Hollow = bower enclosed

now Swede Hollow is just a park = beasts exposed

add that to the anagram and whatever else has been mentioned, it's a decent argument I suppose.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 11:57 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

Has any hunt before used foreign language as a clue? Not to shoot down that anagram, but the general idea that "ANYONE" can decipher the clues seems to not hold if you have to translate a language.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:00 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

It also bothers me that the words are not consecutive (though I don't know how you possiblly could use those words consecutively).
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:09 PM Permalink
lilslim

Kind of... remember the North Star one? When it referred to the French immersion school L'Etoile du Nord....
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:16 PM Permalink
green

I'd think Swede but for Clue #5 which I think is referring to a Tot Lot and Swede doesn't have one.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:20 PM Permalink
green

Leela, I thought the marker in Mounds says Carver Cave is directly below that marker on the bluff.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:22 PM Permalink
incrediblemagpie

Unleash your beasts at the PP Mardi Grass, yea! :pbpt:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:29 PM Permalink
Art Vandelay

I am on my way to the bead store!!! Glad to see you back!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:30 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

ok so bear with ME!!! lol

I have to post a few things here I have been on the same thing as MAD dog has But I have a few other things to tuch on one of the biggest is the fact that Afton HILS park is just off upper afton rd and just across the street from BC and I was out scouting that park last night and I get a good feeling out there with some of my other little things I have but are to much of a Strech!! to put on here!!!!!

BUt also ON a nother NOT SLIM!!! Hello its Iceman!!

And if your Beasts are exposed I got TONS OF BEADS FOR YOU!!! LOL

With that above so ONE ONE takes it wrong!!!

I mean IF you come out tonight!!! ok had to make sure no ONE TAKES IT WRONG! IN HERE!!!

How are the little ones doing???

Hope to get to talk to you tonight!!

I will be at the PP tonight!! dont know how or when yet but I will be THERE!!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:34 PM Permalink
leelabell

Right. Which is the Bruce Vento Sanctuary. If you haven't been there in the summer, I encourage a visit. The are making it into an oak savannah.

I've seen the cave, just couldn't remember the name.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:41 PM Permalink
Redbear

Um. I'm at the office.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:42 PM Permalink
green

gloomâ‹…y

   /ˈglumi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [gloo-mee] Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective, gloom⋅i⋅er, gloom⋅i⋅est.

1. dark or dim; deeply shaded: gloomy skies.

2. causing gloom; dismal or depressing: a gloomy prospect.

3. filled with or showing gloom; sad, dejected, or melancholy.

4. hopeless or despairing; pessimistic: a gloomy view of the future.

Origin:

1580–90; gloom + -y 1

I'm going with dim and deeply shaded.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:43 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

LOL!! Are you getting to the PP tonight??
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:57 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

and My greeny!!! how are you sweety?? Missed you at the PreDig!!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:57 PM Permalink
green

Iceman, I'm fine! How are *you* doing?
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 12:59 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

I's good are you going to make it to the PP tonight?? Hope to see you soon Got a GREAT BIG HUG FOR YOU!!!!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:06 PM Permalink
Grey Wolf

Forgot all about that term. Another name for Soap Box Derby Racers.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:11 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

dont know if I am going to Slipknot tonight!!! just found out my brother has 3 tixs to it got them for me for X-mas from his friend!!!!

So hard to PICK!!! he has back stage passes!!!!!!!!!!!

argGGGGGGG my fave time of year or KICK AZZ SHOW!!!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:20 PM Permalink
queenmalley

I believe L'Etoile du Nord changed buildings, further downtown now in a different name; maybe double ck my info, read it on a random search of mine.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:41 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I will, I will :smile:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:42 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Who looks more lovely in lipstick? A hockey mom.

As long as she doesn't open her mouth to talk...

Good call on the Hockey stuff :smile:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:44 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Thanks, 83. I was wondering what the borders were for Swede. Thanks
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:46 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Great link, Andrea. Thanks
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:48 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I for one didn't know the french meaning of the "star of the North"
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:57 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

It's your state motto, you know.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 1:58 PM Permalink
Andrea

That clue said something about "the coldest star will guide you far"... which I (with many others) took to mean the direction North. If it would have said L'Etoile Du Nord, I would have known what it was! Of course I can say that with 100% accurate hindsight. :smile:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:02 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Oh yeah...

I got nothin' :smile:

I would have never gotten to it backwards. Seeing it on the flag, in a heartbeat but starting with Coldest star, and getting to Polaris from there.. Never. I guess I'm dumb like that.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:03 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

after My latesest FIND I am going nutz!! this puts ME IN a NEW PARK!!! AGAIN!!!! and I dont want to go!!!

 :crying: :crying:
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:03 PM Permalink
Andrea

Me too. But I always think that THIS year is the year I am going to GET all those clues!!!
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:04 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I know better... I am never going to get all of the clues. I just need to "know" that I got one... then we can piece the other ones together
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:06 PM Permalink
green

I will be happy if I get one Clue right.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:06 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I'll be lucky to find an entrance to Swede Hollow without parking in front of someones house... I think I may have found one... one.

Regardless of where it really is I gotta see the spot my Swedish ancestors chose not to live.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:29 PM Permalink
diggin4it

Did you all decide on Wyld times or Bulldogs tonight?
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:38 PM Permalink
Andrea

I would suggest taking Payne up to the Beaumont/Dewry area to park. After hours, there should be parking available at HOPE community charter school (clue 2). If you go in from the Margaret/Bates/Maury side-- the stairs are completely ice and snow covered. Walk down BESIDE the steps instead of on them.
Fri, 01/23/2009 - 2:48 PM Permalink