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2010 - Lilydale Regional Park

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Discuss the 2010 Medallion Hunt Here 

13th Annual Rehash Bash and Other End of the Winter Carnival Festivities 

Sunday, January 31, 2010 
Newell Park Pavilion 
900 N. Fairview Ave. 
Saint Paul, MN 55104 
11:30am-2:30pm 

The 13th Annual Rehash Bash will be held on Sunday, January 31, 2010, at Newell Park, from 11:30am to 2:30pm. As always, its a potluck, and since we\'ve got the building, there will be plenty of power indoors for crock pots. Donations will be accepted to cover the $136 cost for renting the facility. MrMnMikey has some door prizes available. Since this isn\'t Super Bowl Sunday this year, if people want to stick around past the 2:30 closing time, we can start a fire in one of the fire rings. 

In addition, many of us long-time Coolerheads are loyal servants of Vulcanus Rex. Join us for the Vulcan Victory Torchlight Parade, followed by the Vulcan Victory Dance. Information on the Parade Route is from the 2006 Vulcan Krewe. The best places for viewing the parade are going to be at the end of the parade route, as His Majesty, Vulcanus Rex LXXIII, the true King of the Winter Carnival, overthrows that other guy on the steps of the St. Paul Central Library, across from Rice Park 

 

Conference Call Info for Clue 11:

There was no conference call scheduled for clue 10.


 

  • Phone Number: 1-517-417-5000
  • Pass code: 859597 (clue 12 may be different
  • Everyone will be muted initially
  • Lines open at 11pm
  • lilslim will read the clue twice from start to finish
  • After the clue has been read, she will unmute the call
  • 60 ports are available for the teleconference



Line Placeholder Schedule 

1/26/2010- 
5-6 Redbear 
6-7 Jake 
7-8 Jerilyn 
8-9 Kathy 
9-10 Mikey 
10-Clue Steph 

1/27/2010- 
12-1 Redbear 
1-2 Andrea 
2-3 Nimrod 
3-4 jengerm 
4-5 Barefootguy 
5-6 Wicked Nick 
6-7 Chris Digger 
7-8 Art V 
8-9 CM & Me2 
9-Clue Sara 

 

 
First Video - The Deed is Done 

When January’s slanting snow, 
Makes us dream of Mexico 
St. Paul emerges from Wintery sleep 
To search for treasure buried deep 

Notice to every hunting battalion, 
We have hidden the Pioneer Press Medallion 
Where? You ask in husky shout, 
That’s for us to know, and you to find out 

Turn off the tube, leave your hovel 
Grab your walking stick and shovel, 
Whether you be giant or runt, 
The only way is to join the hunt 

For to the hunter belongs the spoil, 
Hunt by day, or Midnight oil, 
Hunt in boot and sturdy glove, 
Hunt with pal, or old true love 

For you who hunt each and every year, 
We raise a lusty St. Paul cheer 
“Good Luck” 

And now, let us be blunt, 
Get off thy duff, and hunt, hunt, hunt
Clue #1 

All hail, O Fire King, of thee we sing 
Thy blast of winter heat scorches 
When ice was like concrete it would\'ve been so sweet 
If the Vulcans plowed with their torches 

Emerge from the den as we once again 
Offer a bodacious bounty 
And this tip to the frozen: bring thick lederhosen 
To public land in Ramsey County 

Clue #1 Video

Hear ye all crews, now come the clues 
For this task I am the Czar 
With each rhyming gift, this shape I will shift 
Listen well to each avatar
Clue #2 

Kissed by a Vulcan, she left him sulkin\' 
\"Sir Soot, I\'ll not forgive these sins!\" 
Her airs Elizabethan, her language, bleepin\' heathen, 
Our mother once blessed us with twins.
Clue #3 

Look high, look low, wherever you go 
Follow a picturesque route 
There are ways to travel away from the gravel 
That keep you in hot pursuit
Clue #4 

Code by Morse should set your course 
To long dashes that dot the landscape. 
You or your avatar should park your car 
On your way to this great escape.
Clue #5 

Take a westerly tack up from the stack, 
A landmark most uncouth. 
Figures grand in scale point to a trail 
Of footprints left by our sleuth.
Clue #6 

You\'ll want to go shopping where things are hopping 
And storeowners once dropped anchor 
Go down the main drag, but be sure not to lag, 
You\'ll have plenty for which to thank her
Clue #7 

Escape your troubles where the water bubbles 
Or gurgles like a stream. 
You may be chargin\' right up to the margin. 
Look for a productive seam.
Clue #8 

Down on the delta where there\'s no ice to melta 
The purple horde raids a golden legion 
Today before kick off the prize you\'ll pick off 
If you search in just the right region 

To find the seed, energy you need 
In search for your clues to glean 
What once was planted is taken for granted 
Stored in one of fifteen
Clue #9 

Not far from stones and ancient bones 
Lay clues that are fit for Jim 
Lure the egrets to yield all secrets 
And you should satisfy him 

Get your kicks by hitting the bricks 
Admiring the trees and view 
Be ever glad hopping pad to pad 
Like amphibians in\'52
Clue #10 

Stonehenge tumbled down near a crumbled town 
Not far from the lights of the city 
If you would hike away from the pike 
You might stumble on something pretty 

Upstream from the landing lay a place in good standing 
Where people prayed, God willin\' 
Now midst the cocklebur and rusted spur 
Is nothing by murder and killin\' 

This park is a sliver, from ancient beds to a river 
In neither is the prize to be found 
Look for the goods among timber and woods 
Do not dig in the fossil ground
Clue #11 

Go for a lark in Lilydale Park 
Between Water Street and the river 
The city boundary sign and the old rail line 
Define the zone that will deliver 

You\'re outside the pale if you\'re close to the rail 
It\'s not to be found near the tracks 
Be nice and cooperative, respect private property 
On public land launch your attacks 

Within this area lies medallion hysteria 
A tangle near the river - not too close! 
About four dozen paces from the waterline to places 
Where you should tromp, dig and freeze your nose
 



 

queenmalley

Double-dippers.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 8:59 AM Permalink
Redbear

And JOE too.

Dammit.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 8:59 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

The guy had a sombrero, but he didn't speak with a Mexican accent. he had that kind of crazy miner/western accent.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:01 AM Permalink
queenmalley

That will be a part of my editorial.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:01 AM Permalink
Terry

I'm just going to throw this out here.

This is clue 7. Just over the half way mark to the 12th clue.

There are good noodles that would and could still fit more than one park depending on interpretation.

Though some of these noodles are favored by a larger group for Lilydale, that is just part of a larger regional park area.

I think it's certainly a possibility that later clues could send us somewhere either near Lilydale (Harriet, Cherokee) or across town.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:01 AM Permalink
queenmalley

The Term "Mexico" is in clues...
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:02 AM Permalink
queenmalley

I think because its so hard to get into that park. Overgrown, etc.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:03 AM Permalink
40below

yup.. it's a possibility.

If I were to assign my personal feelings as a percentage, it'd be:

Lilydale: 50%

Hidden Falls: 30%

Harriet: 10%

Other: 10%
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:05 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

I think the productive seam might just mean they've sewed it into something.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:06 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Oh, I get it now!!

Very good!!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:07 AM Permalink
OT

I didn't see it as racist. All I saw was Notos giving a clue and shouting "Ole! Ole!" as he does throughout the Carnival.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:08 AM Permalink
lilslim

I dunno RB, they have referred to different immagrant groups throughout past hunts... How is this any different?

They use liederhosen to say German, sombrero for mexican. Stereotype? Yes. Racist? Nah...

Scouted lilydale last night and saw several line of sight clues. Lights on bridge- blink in 2 long dashes... 1 bank visible to the east of a smokestack, moving water, county line. I almost posted this the other day but thought it was a stretch: hot pursuitis a term law enforcement uses when they are allowed to cross jurisdictions if they are chasing someone.

Don't think it's so silly anymore!

Heading out to dig soon, see you all out there :smile:
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:10 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

nice noodle!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:10 AM Permalink
Art Vandelay

I was just thinking that a prominent figure could mean the large number 1 on top of a big building in St. Paul. Also, I was just trying to look for Lilydale park in the map book and it isn't in there. That is interesting. I too thought that the sudsy water was beer. Lilydale seems like a tricky park to put it in because parking is a nightmare as I drove through there yesterday, it was really tough to find parking. I will be heading out this afternoon to dig. If I don't go to Lilydale, I will go to Hidden Falls.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:11 AM Permalink
40below

Not silly at all! Very good noodle.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:12 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Lilydale, formerly a residential community, extends to the west of Harriet Island and is now an undeveloped floodplain area, 2 1/2 miles in length and 1/2 miles in width. Within its boundaries are found a l00 acre lake and connected pond and approximately l00 acres each of marsh and wooded areas that provide habitat for a variety of water fowl, mammals and vegetation. A boat launch has just recently been constructed on the Mississippi River, and a trail system is planned. Lilydale is also the site of the former Twin City Brick Co. which mined the bluff for clay for almost l00 years. The mining operations exposed extensive fossil beds, and the area has become well known among paleontologists.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:14 AM Permalink
lilslim

We gave mappy gooey sh&$ bout that last night :wink:
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:20 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

I dunno where they are diggin out there in Lilydale - but keep in mind - according to the official Ramsey County map, the County Line is a straight east-west line that goes from Otto Ave on the North side of the river to Annapolis on the South Side

If you look at Google maps there is a two-tone color change through the river and Pickerel Lake - that IS the county line - meaning only about 1/3 of the northern island (railroad brige) area is actually IN Ramsey County. Doesn't mean the visual references are not going to south of the hiding spot, but it also shortens the search area considerably.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:20 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Echo Cave at Lilydale: Twins?

Echos repeat what you say.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:23 AM Permalink
queenmalley

really good point. Thanks so much. Could be that "Margin" in the clue....
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:23 AM Permalink
queenmalley

ummmm, there are bats common in Lilydale..
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:25 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

my thought...

didnt get the clue til this morning, and lilydale jumps out, here also.....

I think the cw is stalking me.... hiding it, in places where I spent a majority of time, growing up.... Mounds, Swede, ETC..... Lilydale, we used to run wild down there, in the woods and caves, and the old brickyards..... I would LOVE for it to be there!

heading down in a bit.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:26 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Thanks, I've calmed down now!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:31 AM Permalink
leelabell

I think once you're in Lilydale, the markers between the counties is evident.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:35 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

if your thinking lillydale and twins, why not just the twin city brick company?
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:36 AM Permalink
'mom'

Couldn't agree more, Terry. I'm not sold on Lilydale...with the snow and ice conditions from a few weeks ago - it would be the perfect year to put it in some small obscure park that has not been used before. Guess the same holds true for some BIG (regional) park that hadn't been used too :smile:. Might be that we're supposed to be on the south or west part of Harriet where it kind of connects to the Lilydale part??

Not ruling out the other side of the river either - yet. Like the shepard road area down from the "landmark" brewery too.

But don't know that we'll be out to actually dig this year anyway...probably gonna just be an armchair hunter this time out.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:37 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Maybe it's in a fossil!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:37 AM Permalink
queenmalley

The village of Lilydale once occupied the east bank floodplain of the Mississippi River, but this unfortunate location subjected the town to repeated flooding and eventually the town relocated to the bluffs above the floodplain. The park retains the name of Lilydale, named for the abundance of lilypads that dot the surface of Pickerel Lake during the summer.

Wondered how it got its name.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:39 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Nice map!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:40 AM Permalink
queenmalley

You are so right 3M! I was focused on "Brick Company."

Lilydale Regional Park has two areas of note within it. The Brickyards of St. Paul is the location of the former Twin City Brick Company.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:41 AM Permalink
queenmalley

If the Med is at Lilydale, maybe its one big PR gimick:

New St. Paul parks group's first initiative is upgrading Lilydale Regional Park.

http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2009/06/19/9641/new_st_paul_parks_groups_first_initiative_is_upgrading_lilydale_regional_park

The new St. Paul Parks Conservancy — set up last year to provide funding and other support for parks and recreational facilities in the city — is launching its first big initiative with big plans for improvements at Lilydale Regional Park (PDF).
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:45 AM Permalink
Terry

Here's one of those what ifs related to the county line.

The area of Lilydale is owned by the City of St. Paul. The road responsibility though is shared by both the City on the Ramsey side and Dakota county.

So does the county line mean so much if its owned by the City? It's one of those ongoing discussions for parks like Phalen and Battle Creek.

Lilydale is slated for some major improvements and once the road is improved, the City of St. Paul or Ramsey County will take over the plowing and maintenance of that road through the Lilydale park area.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:46 AM Permalink
green

Only in that the clues said Ramsey Cnty.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:51 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

yeah... they want to make the park more "user friendly" - pave the dirt lot thats used for the brickyards area, add some walking trails, and lights..... there's even talk about an off leash dog area.

I've been watching the process closely, because we used to run around that place so much, back in the day...
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:51 AM Permalink
excavating stud

Just got back from Upper Landing Park. Nice park. Lot's of cool features. There were about 10-15 peoplle digging. Not ahuge park. I'd guess it could be picked clean in a day if it was fully narrowed down. I can make all the clues fit there though.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:51 AM Permalink
Artemis The Huntress

Good noodle Zephy!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:53 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Even if the city runs the whole park, the county border is still the same and the south end is not Ramsey County. That's not an issue with Phalen/Keller or Battle Creek where both sides are Ramsey County (unless of course the clue specifically says St. Paul).

In this case all the indicators are pointing to the area right on the border, but on the Ramsey side of the border.

My guess is the next few clues are not going to narrow down much. They're just going to keep telling us what we already know in different ways to give other people more chances to figure it out. I would say though we have it narrowed down to a pretty small area already.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:54 AM Permalink
Wicked Nick

atleast if its down there, we wont run into the police problems, like we did at Central, with the roseville cops, or we would with maplewood.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:57 AM Permalink
Terry

I get that...but it's always a discussion related to parks that share a border with Maplewood so could the same be said for a county line?

I agree with the county border in this case, but that could get muddied especially if the hider screws up.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:57 AM Permalink
queenmalley

I remember Lilydale as a place kids went to drink/drug.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:58 AM Permalink
queenmalley

What would happen if a raccoon took the Med across the border to Dakota county?!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:59 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

No - wasn't a raccoon this time. They hid the puck in a dead fish. Now it's in a an Eagle's nest close to Fort Snelling. Some U of M wildlife student will find it about May.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 10:01 AM Permalink
OT

Love your avatar! That took some work. I wish I was that clever and knew how to do that stuff.
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 10:06 AM Permalink
lilslim

Then we'd be in hot pursuit!
Sat, 01/23/2010 - 10:07 AM Permalink