Glen could be referring to any park with a glen like feature in it. A few come to mind. BC, HF, SH.
Or an Irish reference which brings us to Highland. However I do believe that they are referring in clue 2 with many more steps that this is going to be a hike to get to thus I do not feel like Highland fits that notion.
You know, Hidden Falls does have that stairway (many steps) amd the stairway is located in what you might call the glen where the falls actually are. And of course the park is located by a dam. It also seems that they thought the Chestnut tree had gone extinct in America until recently when they found a stand of them in FDR park a few years ago. And of course the glen in Hidden Falls was built up by FDR in the 30's, an era when you might say men were men.
Construction of the final phases of Upper Landing Park will be underway this summer and will continue into the Fall. When complete, a new public plaza and River Landing will exist between Upper Landing Park and the Upper Landing Housing Development. This project will complete a public connection to the Mississippi River and the Samuel H. Morgan Regional Trail.
Exactly, those steps are pretty impressive. I have HF and BC on my shortlist right now. I have liked HF due to the Lock and Dam being there and the purposeful way that the CW spelled Dammed.
The park dates back to 1887, when it was selected by Horace Cleveland, a nationally known landscape architect and park planner, as one of four major park sites for the City of Saint Paul. Except for the use of a portion of the land as a tree nursery
Regarding the clue posting debate, both sides have valid points. If you didn't go through the effort to get the clue, then you don't really have a right per se to pass it on. On the other hand it is true that with these early clues, getting it before the others isn't going to really make any difference in terms of finding it, especially with an obscure clue like this one. I was surprised that it took so long, at least 20 minutes before I saw it get posted over there. But as the hunt goes on, more and more people will be downtown and I'm sure there will be people posting the clue much earlier over there as the clues become more important. When they start to get posted about the same time it won't even be an issue. I guess the bottom line is sure, go ahead and raise the issue, but don't let it turn into a big argument at this point.
I just watched the video. Decidedly less perverse than the other two. But what I noticed is that in the video, he doesn't say "Och!". It comes out more like a yawn.
On the old PP board, as often as not someone else posted the clue before I did. They do have people at the paper. I think they just waited for me to verify it, no more than that. Of course there are always people posting fake clues, but they're pretty obvious. And toward the end of the hunt, I did wait until I saw it posted either there or the new PP board because I knew it was a sore point. I didn't even look at that those boards before I called my son and gave him the clue.
This is my noodle for this morning. A large bore - drilling - whatever could be a tunnel or bridge one needs to pass under.
There are a couple underpasses at Como, the one at Swede Hollow, the one entrance to Harriet Island, and I'm sure others that I can't think of right now.
Until reading some of these noodles, I had dismissed it as the CW asking if he had simply become boring. It feels like he was stretching for something to rhyme with yore.
There are two newer bridges/under passes at Como. The one over by the brick oven and the one that goes over Lexington Pkwy.
The one is what was once that bridge missing it's span in the leaf blower hunt at Como. I wouldn't think they would use that area again with the whole park at their disposal.
The CW remembers 'glorious stories'. Either these are some fantastic stories or hes' recalling the Glorious Revolution. Just after said revolution, there was an event called the Massacre of Glencoe in Glen Coe, Scotland. The MacDonald Clan was massacred.
T.S. Elliot wrote a poem recounting it.
Rannoch, by Glencoe: T.S. Elliot
Here the crow starves, here the patient stag
Breeds for the rifle. Between the soft moor
And the soft sky, scarcely room
To leap or soar. Substance crumbles, in the thin air
Moon cold or moon hot. The road winds in
Listlessness of ancient war,
Langour of broken steel,
Clamour of confused wrong, apt
In silence. Memory is strong
Beyond the bone. Pride snapped,
Shadow of pride is long, in the long pass
No concurrence of bone.
I spent my childhood hunting with my parents but moved away for school before I got to a ripe noodling age. My park knowledge is rusty. Can anyone connect the dots?
Robert Burns was the Scottish National Poet, also called the Scottish Bard. He was prodigious (sp?) writer (and very boring in my opinion), writing something like " Man is a Man 'A," "Auld Lang Syne," and something about a chestnut tree.
He was very 'ode-ish' in that his poems were stories.
"Chestnuts roasting on an open fire" written by Torme and Wells in 1946 sung by Nat King Cole...I can't find where Crosby sang it, not one album has it, wonder if Coles rites wouldn't allow it?.
Oh Jesus Christ. Way to take advantage of my degree in Landscape Architecture. I completely forgot about Horace Cleveland. He designed the master plan for the park system in both Minneapolis and St Paul stressing to preserve land around lakes and the river (which Chicago, where he came from, didn't do). I've seen his master plan drawn up in the late 1800's before. It's basically all the major parks and parkways in the city. He could very well be the what "Cleveland" from clue 2 is getting at. It could simply be one of the parks he planed for and designed, such as Hidden Falls.
Or an Irish reference which brings us to Highland. However I do believe that they are referring in clue 2 with many more steps that this is going to be a hike to get to thus I do not feel like Highland fits that notion.
BC would also fit with the "when men were men" as in Battle
Personally, I try to convince myself that things don't REALLY fit BC because I hate to hunt there... but you are right. This does fit.
Could we be looking for a large opening of some sort?
What about clue 3 having a Scottish/Irish tone to it and "when men were men" combine that overtone with that phrase and maybe you have McKnight?
Chestnut Plaza and River Connections
Construction of the final phases of Upper Landing Park will be underway this summer and will continue into the Fall. When complete, a new public plaza and River Landing will exist between Upper Landing Park and the Upper Landing Housing Development. This project will complete a public connection to the Mississippi River and the Samuel H. Morgan Regional Trail.
The park dates back to 1887, when it was selected by Horace Cleveland, a nationally known landscape architect and park planner, as one of four major park sites for the City of Saint Paul. Except for the use of a portion of the land as a tree nursery
It's a stretch, I know.
The Village Blacksmith
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Under a spreading chestnut tree
The village smithy stands;
The smith, a mighty man is he,
With large and sinewy hands;
And the muscles of his brawny arms
Are strong as iron bands.
Longfellow Magnet Elementary School is a few blocks from Merriam Park.
I agree Allison. It's dragged out and does sound more like a yawn.
There are a couple underpasses at Como, the one at Swede Hollow, the one entrance to Harriet Island, and I'm sure others that I can't think of right now.
The one is what was once that bridge missing it's span in the leaf blower hunt at Como. I wouldn't think they would use that area again with the whole park at their disposal.
prodigious is obsolete, the ash borer is new invading
The CW remembers 'glorious stories'. Either these are some fantastic stories or hes' recalling the Glorious Revolution. Just after said revolution, there was an event called the Massacre of Glencoe in Glen Coe, Scotland. The MacDonald Clan was massacred.
T.S. Elliot wrote a poem recounting it.
Rannoch, by Glencoe: T.S. Elliot
Here the crow starves, here the patient stag
Breeds for the rifle. Between the soft moor
And the soft sky, scarcely room
To leap or soar. Substance crumbles, in the thin air
Moon cold or moon hot. The road winds in
Listlessness of ancient war,
Langour of broken steel,
Clamour of confused wrong, apt
In silence. Memory is strong
Beyond the bone. Pride snapped,
Shadow of pride is long, in the long pass
No concurrence of bone.
I spent my childhood hunting with my parents but moved away for school before I got to a ripe noodling age. My park knowledge is rusty. Can anyone connect the dots?
He was very 'ode-ish' in that his poems were stories.
Crosby it is then :wink:
Prodigious = 1) Obsolete 2) Exciting or Extraordinary
Bore = Hole drilled in: 1) ground (Wells) 2) metal (Steam pistons) 3) Gun barrel (cannon)
I guess my vote would be: prodigious bore = Obsolete Cannon
Also note Bore can mean...
To befool; to trick.
To push forward in a certain direction with laborious effort.
To shoot out the nose or toss it in the air; -- said of a horse.