I'm going to post this here initially since not everyone may know to look in the other folder:
There was something distinctly unsatisfying with this hunt in the end. Consequently we're going to do something a bit different with the Mock Hunt this year. Instead of doing it a month later, we're going to kick it off at the Rehash Bash next Sunday the 6th. The first clue will come out at the event. After that the clues will come out at 7pm. There will be one per day. They will be posted here, on my Yahoo group, and on the PP board. It will be in a park in St. Paul. There are two ways to participate. One, you can be a registered hunter for $10. If you win, you get all the money collected or $200, whichever is more. Two, you can be an unregistered hunter for free. If you are unregistered and you win, you get a flat $100 and the rest of the money will go towards another contest.
If you're not planning to be at the Rehash Bash, you can still register by sending me the money via Paypal at AllisonWondrland@yahoo.com or send me an email and I'll give you an address to send the check to.
I expect we'll get a big turnout this year so there should be some good competition.
I know what's taking so long with the explanations. They're scouring the message boards for the best noodles so that they'll know what the clues really meant!
Lots of conversation tonight about the clue that seemed (to some more than to others) like it pointed to the ski jump, got me curious about the history of the show referenced, ABC's Wide World of Sports.
The same footage was used from 1970 - 1998 for "the agony of defeat" narration.
I would have sworn I was pretty young when I first saw this footage, like maybe around 1963. But the incident occurred March 21, 1970 and was run for the next 28 years.
Just got home from the hockey game(s). Ugh. Both JV and Varsity lost, but they were good games - they had senior recognition night and a potluck too, so ditching out early was not easy.
Missed seeing those of you who were out and about in various locations throughout the day! Wished we could have have hustled just a little and at least hooked up at Ol Mexico for a bit, Yarusso's wasn't an option due to hockey, and the dance probably wouldn't have been my thing.
Guess we'll have to wait until they decide to post them :smile: ! Hopefully they'll be in tomorrow's paper. I can't remember a recent year when they haven't been posted online within a few hours of the find. I was figuring they'd at least be up by now!
i'm actually doing something i've never done before. editorializing the clues without the context of the official explanations. its kinda fun actually. i hope, however, that the official explanations don't ruin it, because in my opinion, the clue writer gave us a damn fine set of clues, with lots of really good red herrings, and nothing too terribly obscure. My thoughts are up on the 2011 hunt page.
Sorry, been gone most of the day (Polar Plunge for Special Olympics in Minnesota) so just starting to read some posts. Is anyone going to post photos this year of the spot found? They did this last year and it was neat.
But forget your worries and find a park amid the flurries
You have reasons to be optimistic
As the cold wind blows through our record snows
In this land of the dammed and ice
We bid you fair welcome, whether heaven or hell come,
To hunt treasure that's sure to suffice
Invoking the Vulcans amidst an unusually cold and snowy Minnesota winter, we direct hunters to a park — a park with a body of water that, like our houses, is subject to ice dams.
CLUE II: MONDAY, JAN. 24
Through the stormy seas, minding our Qs and Ps,
He captained a steady ship
With purpose clear he made us cheer
Or at least keep a stiff upper lip
Move with elation like folks from circulation
Each morn they stand and deliver
Take many more steps away from your doorsteps
Like carriers, hunters must shiver
A shout out to our departing editor, Thom Fladung. References to doorstep and circulation are in honor of those who deliver the PP daily; the medallion is wrapped in a clear plastic newspaper delivery bag. Upper invokes Upper Afton Road, near the park.
CLUE III: TUESDAY, JAN. 25
A chestnut gentle makes me sentimental,
For those glorious stories of yore.
Of the days in the glen, when men were men,
Och! Have I become a prodigious bore?
Chestnut gentle and glen refer to an old song called "Flow Gently Sweet Afton," based on a
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poem from Robert Burns; it suggests Upper Afton and Lower Afton roads, which border Battle Creek. The Afton in the poem is a stream, just like the one that runs through the park — where the medallion is hidden, not far from its banks. For you Treasure Hunt history buffs, a similar reference was used in Clue 10 in 1970, when the medallion was hidden in Battle Creek.
CLUE IV: WEDNESDAY, JAN. 26
Step off the math from the nearest path
The prize awaits excavation
Water to ice is a fitting price
To pay for this prime location
The prize is quite near a popular walking path, but it is buried deep. It is near the frozen creek in one of St. Paul's most beautiful park settings.
CLUE V: THURSDAY, JAN. 27
Don't give up yet, like aging Brett
Go where winter lovers meet
We hope you find those of like mind
And not da agony of da feet
A shot at our aged-out, finally retired QB; a reference to a park that is famed for its wintry beauty and privacy; and a veiled reference to both the aging QB's sore ankle and to the famed TV phrase "the agony of defeat.'' This was intoned by broadcaster Jim McKay as a ski-jumper fell in the intro to "ABC's Wide World of Sports.'' Our site is at the bottom of the old ski-jump hill in Battle Creek. The use of "da" suggests "da Bears" — or, in the case of Battle Creek, nearby White Bear Avenue.
CLUE VI: FRIDAY, JAN. 28
In pants baggy with dog shaggy
Walk amongst the lonesome pine
Don't forget the clues that fit
Or you'll flub away what's mine
Fred MacMurray starred in "The Shaggy Dog," "The Trail of the Lonesome Pine," "The Absent-Minded Professor," and "Son of Flubber," while another McMurray, a tea merchant named William, helped found the park in 1925 and suggested that "Pine Coulee" be renamed "Battle Creek."
CLUE VII: SATURDAY, JAN. 29
Leave your kettle and test your mettle
Out in the frigid cold
With a nip to brace and a bit of grace
You will have the item to hold
The first rhyming words of the first and third lines are "kettle" and "brace," which is an anagram for Battle Creek.
CLUE VIII: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED TODAY, JAN. 30
Strap on each boot and go look for the loot
Don't wait 'til you kick the bucket!
Be you girl or boy, you'll jump for joy
At the sight of the precious ducat
Strapping on boots suggests the skiing — formerly downhill and jumping and now mostly cross-country — that goes on at Battle Creek. Jump refers to the long-abandoned ski jump that once dominated the part of the park where the medallion is hidden.
CLUE IX: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED MONDAY, JAN. 31
Hillsides rift and provide a lift
A spot for walking beagles
197 aims toward heaven
Tim was up there with eagles
"Lift" and soared like eagles suggest the Battle Creek ski jump, where Tim Dennison once set the record by jumping 197 feet in 1971. So happens, the medallion is not far from the old stairs that went up the ski-jump hill where spectators watched the jumpers fly overhead.
CLUE X: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED TUESDAY, FEB. 1
Even a Norwegian will enjoy a park regional
A bridge too far for a raft
Skip your supper near Lower and Upper
Always look fore and Aft
We salute Minnesota's Northern European heritage and note that this is a "regional" park. We name the site near a bridge that couldn't handle a raft; "Lower" and "Upper" and "Aft" refer to Lower Afton Road and Upper Afton Road, which run through beautiful, snowy, iced-over Battle Creek Regiona
Refers to Battle Creek Regional Park and the end of White Bear Avenue, which leads to woods and the old ski jump site. "Jump" is a reference to the ski jump, and the direction is toward U.S. Highway 10, which runs along the Mississippi River.
CLUE XII: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED THURSDAY, FEB. 3
What you need most is to find the last post
Where ski jumpers came to ground
It's not for the meek to be facing the creek
Eight steps to your left 'twill be found
You might be tarried, for deep it is buried
Dig till you feel cold and quivery
Before your hopes sag you'll spot a clear bag
Used for each morning's delivery
The "last post" that supported the steps of the old ski jump is near the run-out where jumpers landed. From the post, facing Battle Creek, eight steps to the left, or up creek, is the site. It was deeply buried under perhaps 18 inches of snow and ice, contained in a Pioneer Press newspaper delivery bag.
The first rhyming words of the first and third lines are "kettle" and "brace," which is an anagram for Battle Creek.
Hmm.. no mention of the Grace Lane that made the connection for the finders...?
Perfect example of how they never cop to all the clues, Notice they never admitted it was "A" "B" and "C" Sports (streets) as well as Grace? They never mention the "mettle" either, but if you walk up the steps you realize that there is all kinds of rebar and metal sticking out that creates triiping hazards.
where winter lovers meet winter lovers like winter sports, only outdoor winter sport with a "meet" is Cross country skiing. BC is were most of the schools have their meets.
This was what made BC a lock for me. Anagram clue was way to early. Instead they could have used a clue that day like "stay ahead of the competition" ie ski jump competition. that would have confirmed the ski jump, but not enough to pull people from como.
What a disappointment. Probably good that it was found when it was. Several more "it's at Battle Creek" clues were all we were going to get.
Where are the obvious explanations?
Och!
Just by way of laughing at my own interpretations, and betting others had similar very good reasons for hunting at Shamrock, Acorn, Como, etc., I'll share my early thoughts.
I was at Prospect for several clues.
Stairs/steps (green steps recently torn down)
Days of yore (Yoerg brewery, Yoerg house, steps on bluffside at that location)
Prime (can see the "1" on the 1st National Bank building from there - I know, I know - 1 isn't on the list of prime numbers, although it seems to fit the definition (divisible only by 1 and itself) although redundantly so
Vultures (vultures and raptors frequent the bluffs)
Icicle scultures/dammed (icicles and ice dams on nearby houses, many of which - the homes, that is - are awesome)
Huskies, not poodlers (many huskies in the neighborhood - driving through, many obvious neighborhood folks out walking beautiful husky dogs - saw one or another husky being walked every time I drove through there, and I was scoping out that park for several days before the hunt even started
Reasons to be optimistic (good prospects)
Qs and Ps (can see SPPP production plant from there)
Chestnut/sentimental (Chestnut Street and Old Chestnut Street line up (point at) Prospect Park
Cleveland and/or Ohio allusions (Ohio Street is a main route to get in the vicinity of the Park
Clue 5 brought nothing that fit, and I finally had to abandon my resolve that it was at Prospect! Drove around the parks Thursday evening, was liking Como best, and especially when the pine reference came in, and with all the references to things Scottish (Och! MacMurray), I found this online:
I spent Friday checking out pine trees - never did get close to that Scotch Pine, though - parking would have been a bitch if the puck had proven to be there.
I was getting ready to drive through BC yesterday morning when I saw the post that the medallion had been found. I don't know BC at all. Two things I've learned from this hunt:
1. I need to get out in the parks this year - so much has changed in the ten years I've lived away, and there are many parks I just don't know much about (I've driven near BC once, and know Upper and Lower Afton, and Burns, due to visiting a friend who lived there ten years ago.
2. I suck at figuring out anagrams. I need to work on that.
It sure felt good to be here enough this year to actually get out in the parks and put my shovel in the snow!
I've got a lot of learning to do in the next 51 weeks, while the puck rests at the SPPP, waiting to be hidden again.
We finally got the NTFCF DVD and watched it last night. It was fun to see so many of you in the film! And it brought back memories of hunts gone by. Then I was dreaming of hunting, LOL!
I've mostly been an armchair hunter for a few years now, due to some health issues, but I very much enjoy all of you here!
It's the same hide year to year, in the woods, near a tree. Most hunts that it's been like that, even when people are at the right park by clue 6 or 7, it still goes close if not to 12 clues. Why this one didn't go longer, I'm not terribly sure, other than the tree was apparently pretty obvious.
I'm guessing if they keep an eye on all the complaining, all that will change for next year's will be they'll go deeper into a larger patch of woods and find a less conspicuous tree to stick it in/by. Then the cues will be
1. Blah blah, it's in a park stupid
2. Blah blah whiny hunters from last year
3. Blah blah cold outside, go freeze to death
4. Blah blah I bet you thought you'd get some info by now.
5. Blah Weird little known historical fact about St. Paul, won't help you, but I spent hours online trying to find it myself, have fun.
6. Blah blah getting close to the weekend, can't give too much away yet.
7. You're getting nothing on this clue cause it was found last year on it. How about I send you to the wrong park with a simple clue?
8. Hmm.. better toss you a bone, it's getting closer now. How about a street?
9. Time to taunt you some more. Oh ok, here's another street.
10. OK, OK, I rally went far out in the woods, so I can start giving you the park info
11. Yep, better get everybody to the park for a little 12th clue madness..
12. Here's where it is, don't poke your eye out in the woods or kill each other when the mob starts... Yay me, another 12 clue hunt :smile:
Good one... so many hunts in the 2000s with that sequence of clues. That's why I am not going to bust this CW's chops too much. There was SO much information in each clue and we were still all around the city for the most part. My only gripe is that with this year's snow it would've been a perfect hunt to go back to a small park like in hunts of yore.
I have to politely disagree, even though I wasn't in the right spot of the park I thought the clues were overall pretty descriptive and led you to the spot if you were confident of the park and the physical features.
The clues gave you Upper Afton, White bear Ave, Dams and ice, 61 prime or 3m(even if they don't admit it) which outlined the lower area.
Also McMurray donated that exact piece of land where it was hidden and they talked about steps, ski jump, and a glen.
Put yourself in the middle of all that next to the steps and dig up odd looking trees and logs.
I'm actually surprised the medallion wasn't found earlier by one of us...
This almost felt like an old Box/millet hunt to me.
I personally felt like they gave us Cutler and Warren St with clue 5 and spent 2 days digging in the woods near them. I thought the ski jump references were just bringing us to the park not telling us the puck was actually hidden nearby. My mistake I hope to do better and think more clearly next near.
There was something distinctly unsatisfying with this hunt in the end. Consequently we're going to do something a bit different with the Mock Hunt this year. Instead of doing it a month later, we're going to kick it off at the Rehash Bash next Sunday the 6th. The first clue will come out at the event. After that the clues will come out at 7pm. There will be one per day. They will be posted here, on my Yahoo group, and on the PP board. It will be in a park in St. Paul. There are two ways to participate. One, you can be a registered hunter for $10. If you win, you get all the money collected or $200, whichever is more. Two, you can be an unregistered hunter for free. If you are unregistered and you win, you get a flat $100 and the rest of the money will go towards another contest.
If you're not planning to be at the Rehash Bash, you can still register by sending me the money via Paypal at AllisonWondrland@yahoo.com or send me an email and I'll give you an address to send the check to.
I expect we'll get a big turnout this year so there should be some good competition.
Background info on Da Agony of Da Feet
The same footage was used from 1970 - 1998 for "the agony of defeat" narration.
I would have sworn I was pretty young when I first saw this footage, like maybe around 1963. But the incident occurred March 21, 1970 and was run for the next 28 years.
Video of the wipe-out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AZH4FeGsc&feature=related
Missed seeing those of you who were out and about in various locations throughout the day! Wished we could have have hustled just a little and at least hooked up at Ol Mexico for a bit, Yarusso's wasn't an option due to hockey, and the dance probably wouldn't have been my thing.
But we'll see you Sunday at Newell!
The clue explanations are still not up. I think I will wait now until tomorrow - maybe they'll be up by then.
I may get heartburn reading them at this hour so I'm heading for the sheets.
Goodnight and SCDs!
http://extra.twincities.com/treasurehunt/index.php?topic=1692.0
(SnowPrincess)
Looks like they may try to be down there at 2 tomorrow to show everybody where they found it.
Show the Vulcans to be most artistic
But forget your worries and find a park amid the flurries
You have reasons to be optimistic
As the cold wind blows through our record snows
In this land of the dammed and ice
We bid you fair welcome, whether heaven or hell come,
To hunt treasure that's sure to suffice
Invoking the Vulcans amidst an unusually cold and snowy Minnesota winter, we direct hunters to a park — a park with a body of water that, like our houses, is subject to ice dams.
CLUE II: MONDAY, JAN. 24
Through the stormy seas, minding our Qs and Ps,
He captained a steady ship
With purpose clear he made us cheer
Or at least keep a stiff upper lip
Move with elation like folks from circulation
Each morn they stand and deliver
Take many more steps away from your doorsteps
Like carriers, hunters must shiver
A shout out to our departing editor, Thom Fladung. References to doorstep and circulation are in honor of those who deliver the PP daily; the medallion is wrapped in a clear plastic newspaper delivery bag. Upper invokes Upper Afton Road, near the park.
CLUE III: TUESDAY, JAN. 25
A chestnut gentle makes me sentimental,
For those glorious stories of yore.
Of the days in the glen, when men were men,
Och! Have I become a prodigious bore?
Chestnut gentle and glen refer to an old song called "Flow Gently Sweet Afton," based on a
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poem from Robert Burns; it suggests Upper Afton and Lower Afton roads, which border Battle Creek. The Afton in the poem is a stream, just like the one that runs through the park — where the medallion is hidden, not far from its banks. For you Treasure Hunt history buffs, a similar reference was used in Clue 10 in 1970, when the medallion was hidden in Battle Creek.
CLUE IV: WEDNESDAY, JAN. 26
Step off the math from the nearest path
The prize awaits excavation
Water to ice is a fitting price
To pay for this prime location
The prize is quite near a popular walking path, but it is buried deep. It is near the frozen creek in one of St. Paul's most beautiful park settings.
CLUE V: THURSDAY, JAN. 27
Don't give up yet, like aging Brett
Go where winter lovers meet
We hope you find those of like mind
And not da agony of da feet
A shot at our aged-out, finally retired QB; a reference to a park that is famed for its wintry beauty and privacy; and a veiled reference to both the aging QB's sore ankle and to the famed TV phrase "the agony of defeat.'' This was intoned by broadcaster Jim McKay as a ski-jumper fell in the intro to "ABC's Wide World of Sports.'' Our site is at the bottom of the old ski-jump hill in Battle Creek. The use of "da" suggests "da Bears" — or, in the case of Battle Creek, nearby White Bear Avenue.
CLUE VI: FRIDAY, JAN. 28
In pants baggy with dog shaggy
Walk amongst the lonesome pine
Don't forget the clues that fit
Or you'll flub away what's mine
Fred MacMurray starred in "The Shaggy Dog," "The Trail of the Lonesome Pine," "The Absent-Minded Professor," and "Son of Flubber," while another McMurray, a tea merchant named William, helped found the park in 1925 and suggested that "Pine Coulee" be renamed "Battle Creek."
CLUE VII: SATURDAY, JAN. 29
Leave your kettle and test your mettle
Out in the frigid cold
With a nip to brace and a bit of grace
You will have the item to hold
The first rhyming words of the first and third lines are "kettle" and "brace," which is an anagram for Battle Creek.
CLUE VIII: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED TODAY, JAN. 30
Strap on each boot and go look for the loot
Don't wait 'til you kick the bucket!
Be you girl or boy, you'll jump for joy
At the sight of the precious ducat
Strapping on boots suggests the skiing — formerly downhill and jumping and now mostly cross-country — that goes on at Battle Creek. Jump refers to the long-abandoned ski jump that once dominated the part of the park where the medallion is hidden.
CLUE IX: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED MONDAY, JAN. 31
Hillsides rift and provide a lift
A spot for walking beagles
197 aims toward heaven
Tim was up there with eagles
"Lift" and soared like eagles suggest the Battle Creek ski jump, where Tim Dennison once set the record by jumping 197 feet in 1971. So happens, the medallion is not far from the old stairs that went up the ski-jump hill where spectators watched the jumpers fly overhead.
CLUE X: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED TUESDAY, FEB. 1
Even a Norwegian will enjoy a park regional
A bridge too far for a raft
Skip your supper near Lower and Upper
Always look fore and Aft
We salute Minnesota's Northern European heritage and note that this is a "regional" park. We name the site near a bridge that couldn't handle a raft; "Lower" and "Upper" and "Aft" refer to Lower Afton Road and Upper Afton Road, which run through beautiful, snowy, iced-over Battle Creek Regiona
Follow the cattle and join the battle
Whether ye be women or men
Those who dare to find the end of White Bear
Jump in the direction of Ten
Refers to Battle Creek Regional Park and the end of White Bear Avenue, which leads to woods and the old ski jump site. "Jump" is a reference to the ski jump, and the direction is toward U.S. Highway 10, which runs along the Mississippi River.
CLUE XII: TO HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED THURSDAY, FEB. 3
What you need most is to find the last post
Where ski jumpers came to ground
It's not for the meek to be facing the creek
Eight steps to your left 'twill be found
You might be tarried, for deep it is buried
Dig till you feel cold and quivery
Before your hopes sag you'll spot a clear bag
Used for each morning's delivery
The "last post" that supported the steps of the old ski jump is near the run-out where jumpers landed. From the post, facing Battle Creek, eight steps to the left, or up creek, is the site. It was deeply buried under perhaps 18 inches of snow and ice, contained in a Pioneer Press newspaper delivery bag.
Not even his blow up doll? Not a tear shed because he can't taunt us some more?
Way too many clues pointing to the ski jump.
clues 5 & 7 could've been clues 10 & 11 in this hunt.
edit: maybe not 10 & 11, but 9 & 10 for sure.
Sloppy work by a CW who I thought started off this hunt great through the first 4 clues.
Out in the frigid cold
With a nip to brace and a bit of grace
You will have the item to hold
The first rhyming words of the first and third lines are "kettle" and "brace," which is an anagram for Battle Creek.
Hmm.. no mention of the Grace Lane that made the connection for the finders...?
Maybe when you fly off the ski jump....... :wink:
With a nip to brace and a bit of grace
You will have the item to hold
The first rhyming words of the first and third lines are "kettle" and "brace," which is an anagram for Battle Creek.
Hmm.. no mention of the Grace Lane that made the connection for the finders...?
Perfect example of how they never cop to all the clues, Notice they never admitted it was "A" "B" and "C" Sports (streets) as well as Grace? They never mention the "mettle" either, but if you walk up the steps you realize that there is all kinds of rebar and metal sticking out that creates triiping hazards.
Congrats to the finders.
FYI that was about 32 steps off the main path,
prime numbers not mentioned. record jump 197, in 1973 by a 17 yr old
This was what made BC a lock for me. Anagram clue was way to early. Instead they could have used a clue that day like "stay ahead of the competition" ie ski jump competition. that would have confirmed the ski jump, but not enough to pull people from como.
otherwise great clues.
:cool:
Where are the obvious explanations?
Och!
Just by way of laughing at my own interpretations, and betting others had similar very good reasons for hunting at Shamrock, Acorn, Como, etc., I'll share my early thoughts.
I was at Prospect for several clues.
Stairs/steps (green steps recently torn down)
Days of yore (Yoerg brewery, Yoerg house, steps on bluffside at that location)
Prime (can see the "1" on the 1st National Bank building from there - I know, I know - 1 isn't on the list of prime numbers, although it seems to fit the definition (divisible only by 1 and itself) although redundantly so
Vultures (vultures and raptors frequent the bluffs)
Icicle scultures/dammed (icicles and ice dams on nearby houses, many of which - the homes, that is - are awesome)
Huskies, not poodlers (many huskies in the neighborhood - driving through, many obvious neighborhood folks out walking beautiful husky dogs - saw one or another husky being walked every time I drove through there, and I was scoping out that park for several days before the hunt even started
Reasons to be optimistic (good prospects)
Qs and Ps (can see SPPP production plant from there)
Chestnut/sentimental (Chestnut Street and Old Chestnut Street line up (point at) Prospect Park
Cleveland and/or Ohio allusions (Ohio Street is a main route to get in the vicinity of the Park
Clue 5 brought nothing that fit, and I finally had to abandon my resolve that it was at Prospect! Drove around the parks Thursday evening, was liking Como best, and especially when the pine reference came in, and with all the references to things Scottish (Och! MacMurray), I found this online:
Scotch Pine at Como Park
I spent Friday checking out pine trees - never did get close to that Scotch Pine, though - parking would have been a bitch if the puck had proven to be there.
I was getting ready to drive through BC yesterday morning when I saw the post that the medallion had been found. I don't know BC at all. Two things I've learned from this hunt:
1. I need to get out in the parks this year - so much has changed in the ten years I've lived away, and there are many parks I just don't know much about (I've driven near BC once, and know Upper and Lower Afton, and Burns, due to visiting a friend who lived there ten years ago.
2. I suck at figuring out anagrams. I need to work on that.
It sure felt good to be here enough this year to actually get out in the parks and put my shovel in the snow!
I've got a lot of learning to do in the next 51 weeks, while the puck rests at the SPPP, waiting to be hidden again.
I've mostly been an armchair hunter for a few years now, due to some health issues, but I very much enjoy all of you here!
It's the same hide year to year, in the woods, near a tree. Most hunts that it's been like that, even when people are at the right park by clue 6 or 7, it still goes close if not to 12 clues. Why this one didn't go longer, I'm not terribly sure, other than the tree was apparently pretty obvious.
I'm guessing if they keep an eye on all the complaining, all that will change for next year's will be they'll go deeper into a larger patch of woods and find a less conspicuous tree to stick it in/by. Then the cues will be
1. Blah blah, it's in a park stupid
2. Blah blah whiny hunters from last year
3. Blah blah cold outside, go freeze to death
4. Blah blah I bet you thought you'd get some info by now.
5. Blah Weird little known historical fact about St. Paul, won't help you, but I spent hours online trying to find it myself, have fun.
6. Blah blah getting close to the weekend, can't give too much away yet.
7. You're getting nothing on this clue cause it was found last year on it. How about I send you to the wrong park with a simple clue?
8. Hmm.. better toss you a bone, it's getting closer now. How about a street?
9. Time to taunt you some more. Oh ok, here's another street.
10. OK, OK, I rally went far out in the woods, so I can start giving you the park info
11. Yep, better get everybody to the park for a little 12th clue madness..
12. Here's where it is, don't poke your eye out in the woods or kill each other when the mob starts... Yay me, another 12 clue hunt :smile:
ABC Wide World of Sports into:
A
B battle
C creek ?
The clues gave you Upper Afton, White bear Ave, Dams and ice, 61 prime or 3m(even if they don't admit it) which outlined the lower area.
Also McMurray donated that exact piece of land where it was hidden and they talked about steps, ski jump, and a glen.
Put yourself in the middle of all that next to the steps and dig up odd looking trees and logs.
I'm actually surprised the medallion wasn't found earlier by one of us...
This almost felt like an old Box/millet hunt to me.
I personally felt like they gave us Cutler and Warren St with clue 5 and spent 2 days digging in the woods near them. I thought the ski jump references were just bringing us to the park not telling us the puck was actually hidden nearby. My mistake I hope to do better and think more clearly next near.