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2013 - Cherokee Heights Park

Submitted by ares on
OT

As long as we're discussing capitalization, lets expand that to include punctuation. "Don't fence me in" looks to be a quote and not so much a title, as only the word "Don't" is capitalized as they all would be if a title. So if you still think it's a title, you could also consider that "treasure chest" might just refer to the title of something using that same train of thought.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 4:08 AM Permalink
mucluck

good catch
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 4:25 AM Permalink
Andrea

I unlike it was in my paper yesterday too, because I remember noticing that. But today, on 7a where the old clues are listed, it is not capitalized.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 4:29 AM Permalink
OT

Same here. Just looked at yesterday's front page clue and it is capitalized there.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 4:36 AM Permalink
Art Vandelay

I don't know if I can handle another night of Urban Dictionary vocab expansion. I laughed for 10 minutes straight after the homage to The Godfather on Modern Family tonight. My stomach is still killing me. Maybe the clues are saying that if you take a Nantucket Sleighride down the hill, you can have your medallions gobbled! Heyoo!
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 4:57 AM Permalink
mucluck

#1 for me
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 5:02 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I took 2 hrs vacation this morning to check my hunch at crosby this am. Take rest of week if I find it :eek:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 5:23 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

Me2 here is the paper version the day it was released.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 5:49 AM Permalink
Neecie

The line "Winter allows what summer forbids"; perhaps it means what you can see. You can see things in the winter that the tree leaves hide in the summer.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:02 AM Permalink
witchdoctor

Crosby #1.

Too many der bingle references.

Yellow mashed rice - Homer led icy swale.

Winter allows ...- walking out on the lake, pond hockey
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:11 AM Permalink
mucluck

Ian is out mapping Crosby, again, checking some spots, that man is an animal....

Just yesterday he was telling the story of the last time it was in Crosby, the year of the Lair of the Three Headed Woman, the year Mikey took the "before" picture of the hiding spot
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:13 AM Permalink
me2

Bait shop isnt there anymore
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:26 AM Permalink
ares

That's crazy weird. check your text messages j. i sent ya a pic from the paper.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:33 AM Permalink
ares

hasn't been there for about 5 or 6 years
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:33 AM Permalink
ares

agree, but if not, what then?
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:33 AM Permalink
ares

hmmm. i like it, but at the same time, that literally could be anything.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:34 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

Anyone who has The Treasure Hunt book be willing to meet up for lunch or in a park so I could take a peek at it?
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:47 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

The version they e-mailed out fyi was NOT capitalized they need to get their poop in a group and get shit right!
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:52 AM Permalink
witchdoctor

The jesse anibas book?
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:54 AM Permalink
kevin

"dont fence me in" ramsey county correctional work house by battle creek
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:57 AM Permalink
PilotsHatGuy

The Godfather scene was awesome. It went right over Tara's head. Had to explain the real scene to her. Pft! Women... This is why they should stick to making me sandwiches.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 6:57 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

no the book book. The Treasure Hunt by Roger Barr
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:02 AM Permalink
Andrea

I don't get it. All I can say is the capitalization is probably not important then. But I agree... it can change the way we think about it when we read it.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:04 AM Permalink
Neecie

True, it could be anything. My thought was maybe you could see something referred to elsewhere in the clues, like the Cathedral for Crashed Ice, from the spot where the medallion is. You'd only see it in the winter when there's no leaves. Of course, that puts you someplace like Lilydale.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:31 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

I have one, but I'd really have to dig it out. I'm trying to remember what park the medallion ended up being THE park in that book.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:36 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I'm sticking with Harriet Island. It seems to me that Clue #5 could be talking about how the river floods and gobbles up the park as it were. The "fence" then might even be a reference to the levee.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:54 AM Permalink
kevin

maybe a silly frill is the public bathhouse at harriet
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 7:59 AM Permalink
witchdoctor

I think "man's silly frills" refer to the farmstead remnants.

They were obliterated by the 1965 flood.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:12 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I don't know that there was a bath house per se. I think the public bath involved people taking a bath in the Mississippi. Now how dirty did people have to be back then that they could go into the Mississippi and come out feeling cleaner?
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:13 AM Permalink
witchdoctor

You just had to dodge the occasional floater.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:17 AM Permalink
me2

each clue should remain separate...meaning: don't mix clues - red herring is in clue one and meant for clue 1 only (my opinion)
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:22 AM Permalink
me2

just call me JL - its really not a big deal
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:27 AM Permalink
GreenTeam

Just want to say...you guys are funny! :sillygrin:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:30 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I disagree just a bit Me2. Normally I do preach the theory of not cross-pollinating clues, but there can be an exception for the 1st clue. Back during the Swede Hollow hunt there was something in the first clue saying that later clues would reference a lot of history, and they did. So I think it is possible that if there was some overarching element to all the clues, that they would mention it in the first clue, and in that case something in one clue could actually affect how you read another.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:34 AM Permalink
kevin

Harriet Island in downtown St. Paul, MN truly was an island until the 1950s when the U.S. Corps of Engineers filled in the back channel. In the early 1900s Harriet Island was the center of liesure activity for St. Paul residents with a zoo, picnic areas, ball field and the very popular bath houses. In those times indoor plumbing was still to come. Dr. Justus Ohage, St. PaulÂ’s public health director, owned Harriet Island where he built the bath houses to encourage better hygene as a major public health program.

source http://jimkosmo.com/harriet-island-truly-was-an-island/
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:39 AM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

Also if you look at the style of the writing and compare last years clues and explanations-they all connect back to each other. Each one has a piece that could be linked to the previous clue. I think in some ways you have to take them together to get the solution :wink:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:41 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Oh what the heck do you know about cluewriting? :pbpt:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:48 AM Permalink
me2

hmmmm okay - - I do try to keep them separate
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:57 AM Permalink
queenmalley

"not cross-pollinating clues." Really cool term.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 8:58 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

I think when it comes to clues we all have our little rules of thumb we use. The only one who knows the true rule of thumb to use is the clue writer themselves. It changes over time though. I think a few years ago there was an anagram of Battle Creek where one word was in line 2 and the other word was in line 4. Prior to that we all were looking for anagrams to be consecutive words. The clue writer will try different things over the years to keep things fresh and try to find new ways to get important information into their clues. We all throw our ideas out there no matter how crazy or far fetched they are. The ideas may just inspire someone else to follow that line of thinking down the right path to where they figure out the park, or better yet find the actual thing.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:03 AM Permalink
queenmalley

"Don't fence me in" = Minnehaha off-lease dog park.

"Look for fence" = the dog park is also fenced.

"fence" = farm

"gobble" = Holiday Inn; Thanksgiving is another season in the film

"Nature" = park

But I am nervous that it is so obviously Crosby that it probably isn't unless they want us to think that it is so obviously Crosby that it isn't.

 :pbpt:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:03 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Good point about Battle Creek. That was a grrrrr.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:05 AM Permalink
queenmalley

This could be a dog speaking:

Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above DonÂ’t fence me in Let me ride through the wide open country that I love DonÂ’t fence me in Let me be by myself in the eveninÂ’ breeze And listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees Send me off forever but I ask you please DonÂ’t fence me in

Just turn me loose, let me straddle my old saddle Underneath the western skies On my Cayuse, let me wander over yonder Till I see the mountains rise. I want to ride to the ridge where the west commences And gaze at the moon till I lose my senses And I canÂ’t look at hovels and I canÂ’t stand fences DonÂ’t fence me in.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:11 AM Permalink
queenmalley

But then again, there are like 27 dog parks in the Twin City area.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:11 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

I am thinking Crosby although I am not totally sold. Something doesn't just sit right. Sure they gave us the park name potentially in clue 2. It's a huge park with minimal landmarks. If they put it in Crosby and they didn't intimate that it was there somewhat early on, would we be complaining that it was such a huge park and they led us there late? I feel like yesterday's clue indicates flooding which indicates a river. I like Crosby over Harriet because it talks about Ups and Downs in the clue, and you go up and down to get into and out of the park. It seems too much of a coincidence to have a song of Bing Crosby's in a clue for a second time. Also a fence as a landmark in Harriet seems out of place, but in Crosby would be much more valuable given the size and scope of it. I also feel the use of the term nature fits better with Crosby as a park than Harriet.

Oh yeah and I forgot to add- JOE :cool:
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:12 AM Permalink
queenmalley

"Something doesn't just sit right." AGREE!
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 9:13 AM Permalink