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mrmnmikey

this is kinda funny, my boss said he was thinking david bowie today about the clues and I laughed at him and told him it was crosby...now I find this!

November 30, 1977: Bing Crosby's final Christmas special airs, featuring David Bowie

When David Bowie appeared on Bing CrosbyÂ’s 42nd and final Christmas special, it was his attempt to make his arty career more mainstream, more normal. Instead, the glam-rocker's duet with the legendary crooner Crosby resulted in one of the strangest moments of both of their careers.

In September of 1977, Bowie taped his only appearance on CrosbyÂ’s family-friendly Christmas variety show; the pair sang two songs, "Little Drummer Boy" and "Peace on Earth." They

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Fri, 01/25/2013 - 3:50 PM Permalink
HunterPixie

No, but I bet wiki will say he was soon! LOL
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 3:51 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

November 28, 2011 12:25 PM ET

David Bowie and Bing Crosby perform during the TV special, 'Bing Crosby's Merrie Olde Christmas.'CBS Photo Archive/Courtesy of Getty ImagesThis week in rock history, Pink FloydÂ’s inflatable pig went on a joyride, David Bowie and Bing Crosby shared a bizarre holiday duet, Neil YoungÂ’s record label sued him, George Harrison passed away and Joey Ramone was immortalized next to CBGBs.

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Fri, 01/25/2013 - 3:51 PM Permalink
l and a mommy

Total randomness.... ups and downs..... between upper lake and lower hidden falls? I like my upper path and lower path better though...
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 3:54 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

from county page about crosby farm....Getting rid of the boxelder trees...out of the box?

In 2005, Saint Paul Parks and Recreation, in partnership with local non-profit Great River Greening, began a major floodplain forest restoration project to replant formerly cultivated areas of the floodplain. Although by 1970 trees were filling in the areas that were farmed, it was only a few species of trees that were coming back. These areas were poor habitat for wildlife because of the lack of tree diversity. The aim of the replanting is to accelerate the conversion of disturbed box-elder forest to diverse, native floodplain forest, substantially improving the quality and quantity of the parkÂ’s wildlife habitat.

Pockets of box-elder trees were removed, and in the spring of 2006 almost 500 high school students from the Admission Possible program braved rain and cold temperatures to plant 6000 trees and shrubs representing different 16 species! Great work Admission Possible volunteers!
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 4:24 PM Permalink
tom

Wheel of fortune`S idea came from the Hangman Game, but tha t takes you to downtown for the Red Bull deal.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 4:41 PM Permalink
Nimrod

Here's where I think a lot of us are at(and certainly where I'm at):

I don't like Crosby park, but damn, the clues keep saying Crosby. I've got a private little corner in Ramsey Co that I poke at, not for long each day...then off to Crosby 'cause that's where the smart people are. But let a clue sniff of another park- and I'm tail lights!!

I can see it in a lot of hunters eyes.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 4:52 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Agreed. Hard enough to do one park, but impossible to do in parallel.

This puzzle is only solvable due to the number of people working it. John Nash could not solve this alone every time.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 4:58 PM Permalink
skari

Crosby seems much too obvious to me.

I think it is most definately not there. However, I will concede that eating crow is always a possible outcome when one is so decisive.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:02 PM Permalink
OT

"Think outside the box" was last year's clue; This year another shift is due.

These words might be the most important clue so far.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:12 PM Permalink
Downtown Dave

If you have never taken drugs recreationally that video is the closest you can get to that experience.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:15 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I never can understand these types of posts. If its "much too obvious" why would you think its not there?

That makes absolutly no sense to me.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:16 PM Permalink
Nimrod

So, if we shift we go from outside the box to inside the box. I see trains in my little niche park that have freight lines but are not used for commercial travel, meaning.. boxcars. inside the box. Noodle for our bowl.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:16 PM Permalink
tom

I agree with you, I think the clues are taking us to Crosby. So far we have 2 songs which takes us to Crosby...My suggestion is, who gives a fuck about Bing Crosby and who gives a fuck about Crosby Park. With enough said, this should be a good start to figure out where it realy is. Think about it, why would they tell us a park name more then once?? yes this place is big, but I think they is more History involved then a song or two.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:17 PM Permalink
ares

well thought out cabro. well thought!
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:23 PM Permalink
witchdoctor

Crosby until CW says different.

PRIME JOE
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:25 PM Permalink
Andrea

When I checked the weather forecast a bit ago, they are predicting a HIGH of -2 on Thursday. Ouch.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:26 PM Permalink
OT

And maybe the shift is similar to the 2003 hunt where many believed the clues pointed to Harriet Island and didn't think differently until Clue 11 and the "Who hears a who?" clue.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:28 PM Permalink
Cabro

Yeah, but Elway and Homer are parallel streets just above Crosby. I'm wondering if the clue means that the medallion is hidden on a "slice" of land between Elway and Homer - if you were to draw a line from the streets down into the parks.

If I were a gambling woman, which I sort of am, I would bet on this.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:37 PM Permalink
Cabro

Why thank you! My mom and I take this very seriously and get pretty crazy about it. If there is someone who is passionate about Harriet Island or any other park, maybe we could have side-by-side analyses going sort of like in the format I did... I've always kind of wanted to have a blog or something in addition to all the discussion boards - I like seeing a concise one-page proposal of how each clue could fit in a certain park.

Can you tell I'm a NUT?!?!!! Haha!

And/or - anyone ever thought about video blogs?
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:40 PM Permalink
Cabro

I agree, I think there needs to be a fence nearby.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:42 PM Permalink
Cabro

I totally agree. I know it seems obvious, but Crosby is really a lot bigger than you realize until you get down there.

I also just WANT it to be there because it is closest to my house and I'm lazy! Even though I'm long-distance hunting this year.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:43 PM Permalink
Nimrod

I believe the stage is set with the precursor of the red herring for just such a hunt. That said, I share the same narcissistic approach to this hunt as true geeks do. "Let the minions poke at (insert park here), I the more wise and cunning know that what they really mean is..." I fight every year with that.

"Follow the lemmings" is my newest approach, "for I am only one mind, and they are many!" What's that cliff in front of me I see?
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:47 PM Permalink
Cabro

I will admit, I am still pretty strong in the Crosby camp and I cannot think of anything at all for the Wheel of Fortune. The only think I can even get close to is that Crosby is on the River and perhaps you could see a paddleboat go by.

Oh, one other connection: At this point in the hunt, I feel like drinking heavily just like Pat Sejak.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:49 PM Permalink
ares

i'm inclined to agree with you! that's just how it feels to me.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:55 PM Permalink
witchdoctor

The ssw azimuth sighting along

the johnson bros sign to where it intersects

with the old fence line,marked by the row of trees

in the 1940 aerial photo running

SSE in the field south of the lake will mark the spot of

the barking puck.

https://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/DocumentCenter/Home/View/11104
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 5:55 PM Permalink
Cabro

Wait, I revise my previous statement about being a Crosby person and not having a Wheel of Fortune reference. Yes, I just verified it myself, there is a short, 1 block long street called Wheeler very close to the entrance of Crosby.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 6:03 PM Permalink
skari

mrmnmikey, I present my thoughts in further detail as to highten your understanding of my thoughts....

The Happy Holidays pair could be referring to anything including what the puck is hidden in. Example: Tom and Jerry's drink mix.

This CW is good. It does not seem logical to me that he/she would be so obvious so early on in the hunt? even if the park is enourmous.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 6:23 PM Permalink
brasscat

Maybe she (CW) is going to say the oldest biggest tree!
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 6:37 PM Permalink
Nimrod

Seriously, as we search Crosby, any thoughts on the numbering system in the park..each area has a numbered info point. Possible that the number of Bing songs referenced will value to the point in the park it's nearest to?
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:04 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

I believe "Bang Your Head (Mental Health)" was never sung by Crosby, although he was considering a heavy metal tour at the time he passed away. All we got is a duet with David Bowie.... LOL

Another mangled noodle to chew on - I've got an old street atlas from 2001 at my desk, and the location for the entry to Crosby Farm Park is found on page 121, with the coordinates
4-C

-*wink* *wink * *Nudge* *Nudge*
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:10 PM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

no freakin way......
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:13 PM Permalink
Terry

I need a new clue!
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:13 PM Permalink
brasscat

I have to admit that i am hung up on Rice crispy bar..for Yellow smashed rice
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:20 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

New Clue? How about on DVD - ONLY $14.96 on Amazon.com...


Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:21 PM Permalink
Nimrod

Thanks for that little visit to 1983 that I've walked into 2 separate rooms to try to get out of my head tonight...

And Crosby's remake would have ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:24 PM Permalink
Tatergirl

Is anyone else bothered at the fact that the first two songs have quotes and Wheel of fortune does not?
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:26 PM Permalink
PilotsHatGuy

I don't think it's necessarily that it's "too obvious" but rather there's nothing solidly saying Crosby except a couple song references. No street names, no farm references, nothing. Most clues fit any large park along the river.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:33 PM Permalink
'mom'

One that does what it should
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:34 PM Permalink
OT

I am now. :smile:
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:35 PM Permalink
brasscat

I'm waiting for the day it's at Long Lake Regional Park...that's close to my backyard too :smile:
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:36 PM Permalink
brasscat

Agreed
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:39 PM Permalink
Cabro

Maybe it is because it references the street Wheeler, near Crosby! And not a song! :smile:
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:48 PM Permalink
Cabro

Ok everyone, less than 2 hours until the next clue! I will try and stay awake. Don't lose your sanity just yet! (or is it too late?)
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:49 PM Permalink
brasscat

I am now too
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:52 PM Permalink
Terry

I sure hope so.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:53 PM Permalink
brasscat

I had to buy a generic yellow smashed rice bar...lots of great thought here.. I like them all now I'm gonna chew on Think outside the box..

This does not necessarily mean to think inside the box...there are other possibilities besides just the opposite.

Also there is a tree called the Shepard tree ..I don't think it matters that it's not from here..The road is here..and I just schooled you all on a type of tree.

oscia albitrunca, commonly called Witgatboom, Matoppie, or Shepherd's Tree, grows up to 10 metres tall but usually much smaller. It is an evergreen tree native to Southern and Tropical Africa, living in the hot, dry, and often brackish low-lying areas, sometimes on abundant lime and occasionally found in rocky terrain. It is common tree of the Bushveld and Lowveld.

A Shepherds Tree in Botswana with its distinctive white coloured bark.

The fruits, on a jointed stalk, are about 10mm in diameter and are brittle-skinned with a whitish flesh and large endocarp.

Boscia belongs to the caper family Capparaceae. Pickled capers are made from the unopened buds of European members of this family. Boscia albitrunca is closely related to Boscia foetida subsp. rehmanniana, which has much smaller leaves and vevet-textured fruits. The genus was named for Louis Bosc (1759-1828), a French professor of agriculture who lived through the revolution. The species epithet "albitrunca" refers to the white trunk.

A specimen was found in the central Kalahari in 1974 that had roots extending to 68m deep, making it the plant with the deepest known roots.[1]
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:58 PM Permalink
witchdoctor

David Crosby was inspired to change careers the

first time he heard der bingle's rendition.



"Would you like to swing on a star...

or would you rather be a mule?

A mule is an animal that ferries the loads and

carries kilos home in their car...."





BTW, forsee wasn't capitalized in the clue.

Ya, that Bosc -- he had a pair.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 7:58 PM Permalink
tom

You know, looking at other parks, I see a street refrence in Clue 1. Alta Vista is a name of a search engine. Use High Tech Gear.... This street runs into Reservoir Woods park. Only problem is, its small, the parking stinks.
Fri, 01/25/2013 - 8:00 PM Permalink