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2013 - Cherokee Heights Park

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SEEKer$$

my people called him a good man. did you see my post:

Congressman John Lewis stated in his 2004 address, "Bruce Vento was a good man.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:48 AM Permalink
leelabell

If you study his path, you study his life's work, right!

But, what does that mean, if anything? It could just be that the second stanza is repeating the first that it is about Vento. But, that seems a waste.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:48 AM Permalink
leelabell

No, I didn't.

Leahy also said it.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:48 AM Permalink
leelabell

John Lewis is from Georgia (George?)
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:50 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

With all this snow I feel a day late and $10,000 short.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:53 AM Permalink
Terry

LIKE!!!!
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:54 AM Permalink
SEEKer$$

here it is

The Bruce F. Vento Public Service Award is given annually to a public servant who has demonstrated a lifetime of outstanding service, skill, resourcefulness or innovation in the preservation of land, water or historic resources for the legacy of America.

Past Recipients

2011: Senator Susan Collins of Maine

2012: Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico

2011: Senator Susan Collins of Maine

2010: Senator Mark Udall of Colorado

2009: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California

2008: Senator Harry Reid of Nevada

2007: Congressman George Miller of California

2006: Senator John McCain of Arizona

2005: Senator Bob Graham of Florida

2004: Congressman John Lewis of Georgia

2003: Congresswoman Connie Morella of Maryland

2002: Congressman John F. Seiberling of Ohio

2001: Lt. Governor of Alaska Lowell Thomas, Jr.

In 2000, National Park Trust established the Bruce F. Vento Public Service Award to honor the memory and legacy of Bruce Vento, a 12-term Member of Congress from Minnesota and former Chair of the Natural Resources Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands. During his tenure, Congressman Vento passed more park legislation than any other previous chairman. Congressman Vento died on October 10, 2000 at the age of 60.

Each recipient of the Vento Award has expanded the nation's understanding of what it means to have a lifelong legacy and commitment to protecting America's heritage.

Past award recipient, Congressman John Lewis stated in his 2004 address, "Bruce Vento was a good man. He was an environmental stalwart – a Member who stood second to no one when it came to protecting our environment, strengthening our parks, and preserving our national heritage. He was the environmental conscience of the House, and he continues to inspire Members of Congress – and people throughout the country – who are fighting to make our nation a little cleaner and a little greener for our children and generations yet unborn."
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:57 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

As best to say - "He was a good man." == asbestos=vento overlook

Study his path the best that you can.

study best you can = overlook his work? his path starts near cherokee
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:58 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

having trouble getting out to look with these clues :frown:
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:03 AM Permalink
SEEKer$$

I think that is just a overlook at Cherokee. The path starts at BV nature Sanctuary. Am I right????
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:03 AM Permalink
leelabell

Thanks. I was hoping that stanza would tell us something other than what the first stanza said. But, I guess not.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:04 AM Permalink
leelabell

The trail starts at the sanctuary.

There is a little path that leads down to his overlook.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:04 AM Permalink
Terry

Me too. I think I've fairly convinced myself of the park yet again. I just wish there was another clue coming sooner than 10 hours from now.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:06 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

thats correct
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:09 AM Permalink
leelabell

The question is

Is it near the little trail and overlook or in the park proper where all the streets run into it?

It is rather strange to have all of these Vento hints hitting us over the head when the overlook isn't really in the park. It is almost more Lilydale in a way.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:17 AM Permalink
Terry

The entrance to the lookout is in Cherokee. The streets run into Cherokee but not directly into the outlook entrance.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:18 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Actually I would say the entrance starts where Cherokee ends. Though I thought I once saw another entrance to the overlook across from the picnic grounds
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:21 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

im not even sure the vento overlook is ramsey county...
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:21 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I believe it is not.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:22 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I think your right AW about a sign or something in the park about the overlook across from the picnic area
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:23 AM Permalink
leelabell

so dig at the far end of Cherokee?

anyway, I have to get stuff done today. See you all later.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:24 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

heavenly view...a sign from above?
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:24 AM Permalink
Terry

Vento View Overlook

Saint Paul Parks and Recreation

 Located at the intersections of Sibley Memorial Highway, Cherokee Heights Boulevard, and Annapolis Street West in St. Paul.



Overview

 Bruce Vento held Minnesota’s 4th Congressional District seat in the House of Representatives for over 23 years before his death from lung cancer in 2000. The Vento View Overlook and the Bruce Vento Nature Sanctuary commemorate his dedication to the environment.

The overlook is located in Cherokee Regional Park on a forested bluff overlooking the Mississippi River. There is a rather informal but relatively flat trail that leads to the overlook. For the more adventurous a hiking trail leads steeply downhill from the overlook into the Lilydale Regional Park. This trail skirts along the edges of several mine pits and past the ruins of a brick kiln once used by the Twin City Brick Company (an area known as The Brickyards).

Activities: Hiking; views of the Mississippi River valley, Pickerel Lake, and surrounding area. Birdwatching is a favorite activity here.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:24 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Nice.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:32 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I had a bad thought earlier about red herrings. Along the morgan trail near NSP is the wall with all the fish on it. Red herrings?

Still thinking vento, lillydal, cherokee...Im just one of the lost ants AW mentioned...
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:33 AM Permalink
ares

tc always said when she worked in res that you'd rather be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:33 AM Permalink
queenmalley

yes, where is the Heavenly View around Crosby/Vento/HI
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:33 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Perfect.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:34 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I was refering to the vento overlook sign in cherokee park.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:41 AM Permalink
ares

here's an interesting factoid. much like lilydale park of which most is in lilydaly but run by st paul parks and rec, so is much of the trek to the overlook off of cherokee. mostly in dakota county, but st paul parks and rec and the national parks service are listed on the signage.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:43 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Love the new title for this forum!
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:48 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I like the new header up top
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:48 AM Permalink
Terry

Yup. The National Park Service's Mississippi National River and Recreation Area is 72 miles long and includes all the river parks. Our son who is a Park Ranger with nps uses those for many different activities with groups throughout the year.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:50 AM Permalink
ares

it seemed appropriate.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:50 AM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

If the next clue makes some sort of joke about being 'Catfished' I'm f*cking quitting...

BTW - Harriet has maybe 15 cars out today - I stopped there to eat my Jimmy Johns - amazing what changes come about from one clue.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:56 AM Permalink
queenmalley

could be, then, "outer limits" of Ramsey into Dakota; Dakota being the "outer limits." But search the Ramsey side.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:57 AM Permalink
Terry

Me too!!!!
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:58 AM Permalink
leelabell

As an aside, does anyone know of a fish fry in the Twin Cities where they serve perch instead of (or in addition to) cod?
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 11:58 AM Permalink
Terry

The fish fry places I know of off hand are Obb's Yarusso's, St. Clair Broiler. I'm fairly certain that Obb's and St. Clair Broiler does cod. I don't know about Yarusso's.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:03 PM Permalink
blackmamba

I hate to burst anyones "bubble" but my husband and I are huge fans of Bruce Vento and that area as we live over here. The trail heads all the way to white bear lake and down to the cities. Also, there are 4 sections to BV trails and may more in the works. Reprise= giving away the same prize= TS. WHICH elmer L. Anderson and Vento are set to connect in the future. I'm stuck at home so someone go find my money!
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:04 PM Permalink
blackmamba

PS: I called Vento from day 2...ha ha ha when everyone laughed. Lol :grin:
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:07 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

was he (your son) doing the ice fishing thing at crosby on saturday?
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:12 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

So clue 8 was maybe about giving us every street name in Cherokee?

Yon a car wash cuts to the chase,

And equal rights define a place.

Down under there's ice; don't bruise your buns.

Calling a doctor will help you tons.

Yon a car wash = Annapolis

Equal Rights = Wyoming

Down Under = Sydney

There's Ice = Curtice?

Buns = Baker

Calling a Dr. = Page
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:24 PM Permalink
leelabell

Thanks.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:27 PM Permalink
40below

That's definitely my take from it.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:27 PM Permalink
leelabell

Yes. I think so.

(Is equal rights King or Wyoming? Does it really matter?)

Why nothing about Winona Ryder? She's at least from MN.
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:28 PM Permalink
Gilby

Just a thought... What if the clues are leading us from a starting place to the puck along one of the trails. It would maybe make sense since we are all over the place with locations for clues.

Maybe using the rhyming words and street names getting us closer to the final location along the trail???
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:29 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

From Google Maps the county line is a straight shot along Annapolis to Otto avenue across the river. Looks like most of the lower path is in Ramsey County, but the upper portion and the overlook are not.

There's nobody parking at the lower end off Water Street at all - thought that was interesting...
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:39 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Looks like Vento is popular, according to PP:

"Jim Trog of St. Paul, who says he's been hunting the medallion for 35 years, searches along the Bruce Vento Regional Trail today. Who else is/was out there?"
Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:40 PM Permalink