There's also the possibility that there are some ulterior motives as to where the treasure is hidden. Last year, when it was in Como, it was Como Zoo's 100th anniversary. If they wanted to call attention to a particular area, this is a good way to do it. I know Norm Coleman would be very interested in drawing people downtown right now, so the capitol or maybe Mounds Park would have an edge in that sense.
Janet, Was the old man at Mound driving a big old station wagon full of six kids and shovels? We saw him last year at Como. He had a great theory about the Hamms brewery. ;-)
was thinking that a place to play that makes winter more pleasureable might have something to do with a new arena for a hockey team. are they planning to play in the civic center or will there be a new stadium? near mounds park? :)
Mama Ozzy - Thanks for info on Newell Park !! it's close, the tains run, the fair is near, the saints are near, smoke is everywhere - sounds like a place to start to me..
What do city streets have to do with Newell Park, or for that matter Mounds Park? In Highland the plumes of smoke could at least be from barbeque pits.
No clinching clues yet, think its time for bed and save my strength for friday night. still accepting half from anyone who should stumble across the med.
Historically, whenever they bring up a "stack" or "smoke in the skies" clue, it's some kind of reference to the NSP smokestack visible from several downtown area parks. Mounds should still be in the running, but Cherokee may have jumped into the picture again with its proximity to the stack and past ideas that Annapolis and/or Ottawa are "city streets." Plus, the line "you'll soon be back" may have been an indicator that they, in fact, are going against the usual pattern of repeating hiding places; it was last at Cherokee only 6 years ago. The mention of "track" always calls up railroad tracks (visible below Mounds).
A couple years ago I tried to make a complete list of all the places the treasure could be hidden. I can't claim to remember where these all are, but perhaps we can start a process of elimination.
Battle Creek Park
Como Park
Conway Heights
Dunning Field
Harriet Island
Highland Park
Horton Park
Irvine Park
Linwood Park
Merriam Terrace
Newell Park
Phalen Park
Stinson Park
Terrace Park
Langford Park
Rice Park
State Capitol
State Fairgrounds
I have to admit that I've never heard of Cherokee Park, though my map is a bit old. So let's start eliminating.
Mounds is ok, but we did tour Cher and Propect this eve. On the way across the highbridge, we did take note of the NSP stack on the 'sippi. Cher again? And what's with all the tire tracks ALL over Cher park? Friday is here!
I have been searching for the medallion since 1952 and have always been at the park! BUT I am still searching. We enjoy the carnival and all of the excitment it brings to St. Paul. My guess is Mounds or Cherokee. The smoke stack is either NSP or Pig's Eye. The train track run under both of the parks. Rosebud refers to the container and there is a La Rosa Pasta that has a large red rose as their signature!
Both parks are on the river, have playgrounds, sliding hills, views of the cathedral and capital, and are scenic overviews.
I live in Highland and my guess is that it is not there even though it would be very close.
"If you're on the wrong track, don't blow your stack"... could that mean you *are* on the wrong track if thinking train, and should be looking for a field/running track. Any running track-type thing in Highland?
Too, the airport periodically "blows smoke" into the air... And that's close to Highland... Which we'd soon be going "back to" if the Med is there.
Highland Park has a running track, golf course, picnic area, playground, water towers, hills for sliding, walking bridge from one side of the park to the other (over Montreal Ave. - a city name) a public pool for water, a high school close by, woods, but no smoke stacks ( the airport is much to far away - sorry!) and nothing to do with a dome.
some old man at mound was talikn about a pasta factory in stpaul d that does their labeling with a rose {JUST an iidea} good point about highland
Has it ever been in Newell Park ? Anybody??
MikeM yup sure is.....*laughing*
There's also the possibility that there are some ulterior motives as to where the treasure is hidden. Last year, when it was in Como, it was Como Zoo's 100th anniversary. If they wanted to call attention to a particular area, this is a good way to do it. I know Norm Coleman would be very interested in drawing people downtown right now, so the capitol or maybe Mounds Park would have an edge in that sense.
Janet, Was the old man at Mound driving a big old station wagon full of six kids and shovels? We saw him last year at Como. He had a great theory about the Hamms brewery. ;-)
plume of smoke...
were is ever one going
Donna - It was at newell Park in 1984....
Smokestack? What, are you kidding me?
david, good point about motives for the location.
was thinking that a place to play that makes winter more pleasureable might have something to do with a new arena for a hockey team. are they planning to play in the civic center or will there be a new stadium? near mounds park? :)
Highland just took a beating, but not Newell.
A train blowing smoke by mounds...a busy factory somewhere...
I'm off. My partner in crime has an idea. Good luck to you all...
Godhead bless...
The same rail line runs from Highland Park, along the river, by downtown, and right along Mounds Park and ends up not too far from Battle Creek
...
*gone*
If you're on the wrong track don't blow your stack
Just look for a plume of smoke in the skies
With this in view you'll soon be back
In the hunt for our valuable prize
Mama Ozzy - Thanks for info on Newell Park !! it's close, the tains run, the fair is near, the saints are near, smoke is everywhere - sounds like a place to start to me..
Good luck to anyone heading out to their pick of parks! Wish I was out hunting too....
What do city streets have to do with Newell Park, or for that matter Mounds Park? In Highland the plumes of smoke could at least be from barbeque pits.
Are you sure its not Highland Park?
Water (street), woods, (railroad) track, stack with a plume of smoke, all this sounds like the vista from Cherokee park to our little group.
where is newell park anyway
Water (street), woods, (railroad) track, stack with a plume of smoke, all this sounds like the vista from Cherokee park to our little group.
No clinching clues yet, think its time for bed and save my strength for friday night. still accepting half from anyone who should stumble across the med.
Historically, whenever they bring up a "stack" or "smoke in the skies" clue, it's some kind of reference to the NSP smokestack visible from several downtown area parks. Mounds should still be in the running, but Cherokee may have jumped into the picture again with its proximity to the stack and past ideas that Annapolis and/or Ottawa are "city streets." Plus, the line "you'll soon be back" may have been an indicator that they, in fact, are going against the usual pattern of repeating hiding places; it was last at Cherokee only 6 years ago. The mention of "track" always calls up railroad tracks (visible below Mounds).
A couple years ago I tried to make a complete list of all the places the treasure could be hidden. I can't claim to remember where these all are, but perhaps we can start a process of elimination.
I have to admit that I've never heard of Cherokee Park, though my map is a bit old. So let's start eliminating.
Mounds is ok, but we did tour Cher and Propect this eve. On the way across the highbridge, we did take note of the NSP stack on the 'sippi. Cher again? And what's with all the tire tracks ALL over Cher park? Friday is here!
I have been searching for the medallion since 1952 and have always been at the park! BUT I am still searching. We enjoy the carnival and all of the excitment it brings to St. Paul. My guess is Mounds or Cherokee. The smoke stack is either NSP or Pig's Eye. The train track run under both of the parks. Rosebud refers to the container and there is a La Rosa Pasta that has a large red rose as their signature!
Both parks are on the river, have playgrounds, sliding hills, views of the cathedral and capital, and are scenic overviews.
I live in Highland and my guess is that it is not there even though it would be very close.
Water St. + Wood St. are all in the neighborhood. So is Prospect and so is Delos=lodes ....
water st. wood st. Delos st=Lodes Smoke stack Prosperity
oops sorry..
"If you're on the wrong track, don't blow your stack"... could that mean you *are* on the wrong track if thinking train, and should be looking for a field/running track. Any running track-type thing in Highland?
Too, the airport periodically "blows smoke" into the air... And that's close to Highland... Which we'd soon be going "back to" if the Med is there.
There's a big hill there too....
across the river In Cherokee Heights...that is my prediction...the roads are all there...
Lodes = Delos St....
"doh" and I don't have a car or shovel *very sad*
vikki but thair is no "s" in lode in clue 4
It sucks to be me....Water st, Wood st, prosperity st, Delos st, ...doh...I wanna go...
Highland Park has a running track, golf course, picnic area, playground, water towers, hills for sliding, walking bridge from one side of the park to the other (over Montreal Ave. - a city name) a public pool for water, a high school close by, woods, but no smoke stacks ( the airport is much to far away - sorry!) and nothing to do with a dome.
Ms. Snowflake: Which park is closest to Pig's Eye? I read on the Net that Pig's Eye (Lake) has the largest crane or ospery or heron rookery...
With so many birds... they would be "almost immeasurable."
Where is La Rosa Pasta?
That's true...but Delo is still there..*s*
David Allison, et. al: I'll post this now instead of later when Water Cooler traffic could be heavier...
Past Hiding Places of the Medallion/Chest
1952 Highland Park -- in a clump of weeds
1953 Cherokee Park -- in a snowbank; State Fairgrounds -- in a large bush (two chests)
1954 Hidden Falls Park -- in a dead, hollow stump
1955 Seventh and Robert Streets -- under a mailbox (chest had been magnetized)
1956 Como Park -- inside a hollow log
1957 Battle Creek Park -- in a clump of roots above ground
1958 Under Highway 61 Bridge -- in milky ice (first year of medallion)
1959 Warner Road -- under a tree
1960 Harriet Island Park -- in the heel of a boot
1961 Highland Park -- in a large clump of grass
1962 Along Mississippi Street -- attached to disc
1963 Caroll, Jefferson, Farrington and Rondo Street -- found in a snowbank without protection
1964 Beaver Lake Park -- attached to a gold-colored brick
1965 Como Park -- attached to a hunk of a printing lead
1966 Harriet Island Park -- attached to a flatiron
1967 State Fairgrounds -- underneath eight inches of ice
1968 Highland Park -- attached to plasterboard
1969 Victoria Street and I-35E -- in a crevice of two rocks
1970 Battle Creek Park, Maplewood -- attached to a cast-iron vise
1971 Wakefield Lake Park, Maplewood -- attached to baby buggy wheel
1972 Marydale Park -- stuck inside a chunk of drain pipe
1973 Lake Phalen Park -- cemented inside of a closet bracket
1974 Cherokee Park -- in a crushed Coke can
1975 Mears Park -- inside of a Bull Burham sack
1976 Keller Lake Park, Maplewood -- attached to a piece of wood
1977 Irvine Park -- inside of a cigar box
1978 Harriet Island Park -- frozen inside of a snowball
1979 Marthaler Park, West St. Paul -- taped to a dead tree
1980 Como Park -- inside of plaster
1981 Acorn Park, Roseville -- taped in between leaves
1982 Wakefield Lake Park -- wrapped in a newspaper
1983 Lake Phalen Park -- substituted as filling in an Oreo cookie
1984 Newell Park -- attached to a broken 45 rpm record
1985 Kellogg Mall Park -- glued inside of a White Castle Hamburger Box
1986 Highland Park -- inside of a pipe
1987 Indian Mounds Park -- wrapped in clay and grass
1988 Tony Schmidt Park, Arden Hills -- coated with an almond bark
1989 The Capitol Mall -- inside an earmuff
1990 Como Park -- wrapped in clay and grass
1991 Langford Park -- stuck inside of a Hostess Brand Sno-Ball
1992 Cherokee Park -- inside of a white mitten
1993 Hidden Falls Park -- stuck inside of a diaper
1994 Highland Park -- inside of a little white box
1995 Battle Creek Park -- placed inside of a knitted yarn pouch
1996 Harriet Island Park -- inside of a Skoal tin
1997 Como Park -- in a Curad bandage box, wrapped in a red bandana
1998 ???