Most abortions are had due to the irresponsibility of the parents involved. If they didn't have the option to kill the child maybe they would be more responsible.
So, you'd really want to force someone to be a parent that would in all reality, rather kill that child?
Apparently JT's motto is: Since there aren't enough people to adopt just kill the child.
Nice Jethro. Very intelligent rebuttal, Justice Jethro.
I guess this makes your motto: "Adopt, don't abort, except for me, cuz I can't afford it, and I only really care when it doesn't cost ME anything or cause ME any personal pain or suffering"
You really are a Liberal, aren't you Jethro?
How about a real solution to the abortion problem?
you mean like before roe v. wade was decided? i'm sure there was a lot more responsibility back then.
My guess is that they were more responsible. My guess is that they didn't abort as many as they do today. You made the statement that they weren't more responsible so in in JT's words: PROVE IT!
you mean like before roe v. wade was decided? i'm sure there was a lot more responsibility back then.
My guess is that they were more responsible. My guess is that they didn't abort as many as they do today. You made the statement that they weren't more responsible so in in JT's words: PROVE IT!
You mean like banning drugs has decreased it's use? I believe the use of illegal drugs is less than it would be if they were made legal.Or how banning alcohol during prohibition decreased it's use? It most certainly did decrease the use of alcohol. I posted a link that established that fact. You either missed it or ignored it. The fact is Prohibition did reduce the amount of alcohil consumed.
Obviously you think there was a price paid, ares. I don't think you can compare killing an unborn child with having a drink. Other than the fact that having a drink can result in an unborn child!
Statistics show that Prohibition reduced the annual per capita consumption from 9.8 liters (2.6 gallons) of absolute alcohol during the period before state laws were effective (1906-1910) to 3.7 liters (0.97 gallons) after Prohibition (1934). Moreover, no striking statistical evidence of a crime wave during the 1920s exists, although the crime rate did rise.
nice to see you have no idea what i'm talking about jethro. perhaps you should go read a little more history. please class, no sharing, jethro needs to figure this one out on his own.
The era inspired an extensive body of colorful literature, most of it alleging that the period was one of moral decay and social disorder precisely because of "Volsteadism," which came to mean the intolerable searches, seizures, and shootings by police who, with their token enforcement, seemed to threaten intrusion into the private lives of law-respecting persons. It also alleged that Prohibition distorted the role of alcohol in American life, causing people to drink more rather than less; that it promoted disrespect for the law; that it generated a wave of organized criminal activity, during which the bootlegger (one who sold liquor illegally), the "speakeasy" (an illegal saloon), and the gangster became popular institutions; and that the profits available to criminals from illegal alcohol corrupted almost every level of government.
Because the Congress and the state legislatures, however, were reluctant to appropriate enough money for more than token enforcement—and because the opportunities for disregarding the law through smuggling, distilling, fermenting, and brewing were legion—Prohibition always represented more of an ideal than a reality.
This confirms what what I suspected. Many people are getting their history from the movies.
Most abortions are had due to the irresponsibility of the parents involved. If they didn't have the option to kill the child maybe they would be more responsible.
So, you'd really want to force someone to be a parent that would in all reality, rather kill that child?
Apparently JT's motto is: Since there aren't enough people to adopt just kill the child.
Nice Jethro. Very intelligent rebuttal, Justice Jethro.
I guess this makes your motto: "Adopt, don't abort, except for me, cuz I can't afford it, and I only really care when it doesn't cost ME anything or cause ME any personal pain or suffering"
You really are a Liberal, aren't you Jethro?
How about a real solution to the abortion problem?
You really are a Liberal, aren't you Jethro?
jt, a little warning would have been nice :)
:: cleaning more coke off of keyboard and monitor; trying to find something for the sinus pain caused by the carbonic acid flowing through them ::
Sorry Ares
you mean like before roe v. wade was decided? i'm sure there was a lot more responsibility back then.
My guess is that they were more responsible. My guess is that they didn't abort as many as they do today. You made the statement that they weren't more responsible so in in JT's words: PROVE IT!
you mean like before roe v. wade was decided? i'm sure there was a lot more responsibility back then.
My guess is that they were more responsible. My guess is that they didn't abort as many as they do today. You made the statement that they weren't more responsible so in in JT's words: PROVE IT!
The solution to abortion is to ban it. It won't end completly but it will be reduced.
your guess? wasn't the 60s (albeit many years before my time) a decade when sex flowed like water????
PROVE IT!
you mean like how you prove things? i'd love to except i can't think of a question to ask in response.
The solution to abortion is to ban it. It won't end completly but it will be reduced.
You mean like banning drugs has decreased it's use? Or how banning alcohol during prohibition decreased it's use?
It's laughable.
Jethro, by your own definition would you consider yourself a Christian?
You mean like banning drugs has decreased it's use? I believe the use of illegal drugs is less than it would be if they were made legal.Or how banning alcohol during prohibition decreased it's use? It most certainly did decrease the use of alcohol. I posted a link that established that fact. You either missed it or ignored it. The fact is Prohibition did reduce the amount of alcohil consumed.
and what was the price we paid for a reduction in the amount of alcohol consumed?
It might have cut back on the beer drinking.
That supposed to be good or something?
It most certainly did decrease the use of alcohol.
You need to recheck your facts. Alcohol consumption only decreased at first but then increased as time went on.
Obviously you think there was a price paid, ares. I don't think you can compare killing an unborn child with having a drink. Other than the fact that having a drink can result in an unborn child!
No you are wrong, JT.
When they start telling me I can't have a beer at the end of the day is when I start getting political.
Statistics show that Prohibition reduced the annual per capita consumption from 9.8 liters (2.6 gallons) of absolute alcohol during the period before state laws were effective (1906-1910) to 3.7 liters (0.97 gallons) after Prohibition (1934). Moreover, no striking statistical evidence of a crime wave during the 1920s exists, although the crime rate did rise.
http://encarta.msn.com/find/Concise.asp?ti=033A3000
nice to see you have no idea what i'm talking about jethro. perhaps you should go read a little more history. please class, no sharing, jethro needs to figure this one out on his own.
Whoa, you'd see this dude on one righteous cause....
I don't know why anyone would talk about the upside of Prohibition.
Gotta be crazy or something.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html
"ALCOHOL PROHIBITION WAS A FAILURE"
He sure got that right.
Don't need to read any further, there.
LOL!
If you look at in terms in reduced consumption it was a success.
having a drink can result in an unborn child!
And I thought it was having sex....
so the only goal of prohibition was to reduce alcohol consumption?
are you dense, dal?
"If you look at in terms in reduced consumption it was a success."
Flawed reasoning, jethro.
what, lundstrom?
The era inspired an extensive body of colorful literature, most of it alleging that the period was one of moral decay and social disorder precisely because of "Volsteadism," which came to mean the intolerable searches, seizures, and shootings by police who, with their token enforcement, seemed to threaten intrusion into the private lives of law-respecting persons. It also alleged that Prohibition distorted the role of alcohol in American life, causing people to drink more rather than less; that it promoted disrespect for the law; that it generated a wave of organized criminal activity, during which the bootlegger (one who sold liquor illegally), the "speakeasy" (an illegal saloon), and the gangster became popular institutions; and that the profits available to criminals from illegal alcohol corrupted almost every level of government.
See any parallels to the current "drug war"?
jethro: having a drink can result in an unborn child!
dal: And I thought it was having sex....
coincidentally, dal, given about 9 months, having sex can also result in a born child.
Ain't gonna be no war on beer.
Dal: And I thought it was having sex....
Jethro: are you dense, dal?
I'm not the one who said having a drink can result in an unborn child....
having sex can also result in a born child.
Ah, yes. But now the question becomes: can having a drink result in a born child???
How many children were conceived because of drink? If it ain't true you better tell all those guys because they are waisting their booze on the girls.
Because the Congress and the state legislatures, however, were reluctant to appropriate enough money for more than token enforcement—and because the opportunities for disregarding the law through smuggling, distilling, fermenting, and brewing were legion—Prohibition always represented more of an ideal than a reality.
This confirms what what I suspected. Many people are getting their history from the movies.
If it ain't true you better tell all those guys because they are waisting their booze on the girls.
Unlike what your Mother told you, getting girls drunk first isn't a requirement.
Well, not for most of us anyway.
ZINGER!!!
Hey I guard my booze zealously. i ain't given any to the ladies or anyone else!
It is amazing what a liberal can believe. Zinger? Hardly!
"Prohibition always represented more of an ideal than a reality."
It represented insanity is what it did.
Always.
Hey I guard my booze zealously. i ain't given any to the ladies!
Yeah, Liberals are that way with liqour and with the ladies.
I doubt if Ted Kennedy is that way!
I doubt if Ted Kennedy is that way!
Good one Jethro.
I'm not saying conservatives can't be loved, but I bet it's difficult.
I'm not saying conservatives can't be loved, but I bet it's difficult.
Hey!
I'm not saying conservatives can't be loved, but I bet it's diffucult
According to Jethro, there has to be a lot of liquor involved.
Post of the day:
See above
Especially by the like of you, Lundstrom.
I don't think anyone can go into a relationship with a conservative stone cold sober.