It is a swear word for liberals. For conservatives it is the truth. Wasn't it Harry Truman that said that he tells them the truth and they think it is hell, or something like that. It is the same with the word liberal.
jethro, there's a difference between nuance and incoherence; I like the former and loathe the latter.
From jethro's last few posts, apparently he believes that a "true Republican" is one who believes Republicans are always good and Democrats always bad. "Sheep" is one of the nicer words for that sort of person.
Blind unthinking devotion is what leads jethro to state that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad. I know, he didn't say it in exactly those words, but it permeates his posts.
I've voted for Democrats, Republicans and independents. Sorry you've got a problem with people thinking for themselves.
jethro, there's a difference between nuance and incoherence; I like the former and loathe the latter. Maybe you just are incapable of comprehension. From what I have seen that is a distinct possibility.Â
From jethro's last few posts, apparently he believes that a "true Republican" is one who believes Republicans are always good and Democrats always bad. "Sheep" is one of the nicer words for that sort of person. Like I said it was fold's term. If that seems incoherent to you take it up with him.
Blind unthinking devotion is what leads jethro to state that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad. I know, he didn't say it in exactly those words, but it permeates his posts.
Misguided as usual, pieter, I don't use those words because that is not what I believe.
Do a search for the word "democraps" or "democrap" on PF, and jethro's name is on the majority of the posts you'll find. A significant percentage of the other posts you find are people quoting jethro.
I'd say that my analysis of his position as "GOP good, Democrat bad. I get bannana now?" is accurate.
Blind unthinking devotion is what leads jethro to state that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad. I know, he didn't say it in exactly those words, but it permeates his posts.
jethro responds
Misguided as usual, pieter, I don't use those words because that is not what I believe.
And yet over in Religion and Moralshe agrees with the statement that the Democratic Party is not just different but an enemy of what Christians value.
busted? I don't use those words. In general, the democrat party is an enemy to many people. in my view the party's views, if implemented, will undermine the Constitution. Many of those views have done just that. Some democrats see that. Just ask Zell Miller.
There's many a Democrat that I could come to a compromise with.
I see we just disagree over the number of sensible democrats. Remember the democrats are the party that nominated Georeg McGovern, Walter Mondale, Mike Dukkakis and John Kerry. These fellows are not moderates. And remember Al Gore ran to the left of the Clinton record. All this should tell you where the party stands.Â
jethro makes noises about Democrats ignoring the law, but the story he linked begins:
SEATTLE — A federal judge scheduled a hearing next week to hear arguments in a lawsuit filed by Republicans aiming to block the recount of some ballotsin the cliffhanger governor's race.  Â
And then it continues
On Sunday, a federal judge denied the GOP's request that heavily Democratic King County be forced to stop hand-counting ballots that machines can't read.
according to the article the law requires a machine recount. i don't know if that is accurate or not. but if that is the law then the democrats are advocating breaking it. that is typical democrat party behavior.
I went back and looked at the article. I do not see any reason that you would find it confusing. It appears that the Washington GOP asked for an injunction to stop the hand count. That was denied but the judge set the matter for hearing for this week. Now what about that is confusing?
I'm not confused, jethro, you are. You said that the article was about Democrats ignoring the law, but it was quite clearly about Republicans going to court in an attempt to stop votes from being counted -- something that's becoming a habit with them lately.
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If you could actually comprehend the article you would no otherwise. The facts are, according to the article, that the democrats are hand counting ballots while the statute provides for only machine counts.
If you could actually comprehend the article you would nootherwise. Â Â
::shakes head sadly::
The facts are, according to the article, that the democrats are hand counting ballots while the statute provides for only machine counts.
Clause one of that sentence conflicts with clause two, and the article itself has only one sentence on what the law is, without quoting it. Nowhere in the article does it say that the votes are being counted by Democrats alone; however, given the GOP's current hostility toward vote-counting it's not an unjustified assumption -- but you made it, not me.
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JT and jetrthro are just out-there free thinkin' kinda guys.
You're right. I am a free thinker.
I'm not a Republican in that I would and have voted for Democrat candidates.
"Isn't that what your hero Kerry said?"
I don't think he'd mind being called a Democrat
you and bodine are the antithesis of free thinkers.
free thinkers are liberal.
I'm not a Republican in that I would and have voted for Democrat candidates.
"Isn't that what your hero Kerry said?"
rick: I don't think he'd mind being called a Democrat
Because conservatives have turned it into a swear word.
Because conservatives have turned it into a swear word.
Then why do you use it as a swear word?
It is a swear word for liberals. For conservatives it is the truth. Wasn't it Harry Truman that said that he tells them the truth and they think it is hell, or something like that. It is the same with the word liberal.
jethro, there's a difference between nuance and incoherence; I like the former and loathe the latter.
From jethro's last few posts, apparently he believes that a "true Republican" is one who believes Republicans are always good and Democrats always bad. "Sheep" is one of the nicer words for that sort of person.
The Rat's been called a Sheep for being a Democrat.
So What? Don't you value loyalty?
I'll respect a Republican before one of those free-thinking out-there kinda guys any day.
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Loyalty is one thing, uncritical devotion is another.
Do you value loyalty? Or is it just loyalty to yourself that you value?
Do you put that much trust in yourself?
[Edited by on Nov 22, 2004 at 04:28pm.]
I value loyalty, and duty, and honor. I do not value blind, unthinking devotion.
pieter b 11/22/04 4:35pm
And what exactly do you consider blind, unthinking devotion?
Examples would be appreciated.
Nothing personal, pieter -- you might be a good guy. But I don't think I could comfortably count on you.
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free thinkers are liberal.
Some of them are.
Many(Most)"Liberals" regurgitate the same ideas from fifty years ago.
I'm a true progressive.
[Edited by on Nov 22, 2004 at 07:41pm.]
Blind unthinking devotion is what leads jethro to state that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad. I know, he didn't say it in exactly those words, but it permeates his posts.
I've voted for Democrats, Republicans and independents. Sorry you've got a problem with people thinking for themselves.
jethro, there's a difference between nuance and incoherence; I like the former and loathe the latter. Maybe you just are incapable of comprehension. From what I have seen that is a distinct possibility.Â
From jethro's last few posts, apparently he believes that a "true Republican" is one who believes Republicans are always good and Democrats always bad. "Sheep" is one of the nicer words for that sort of person. Like I said it was fold's term. If that seems incoherent to you take it up with him.
Nothing personal, pieter -- you might be a good guy. But I don't think I could comfortably count on you.
Blind unthinking devotion is what leads jethro to state that all Republicans are good and all Democrats are bad. I know, he didn't say it in exactly those words, but it permeates his posts.
Misguided as usual, pieter, I don't use those words because that is not what I believe.
[Edited by on Nov 23, 2004 at 07:44am.]
jethro, please link me to a post where you have said something nice about a Democrat.
:: cleans coke off of monitor ::
you're kidding. right?
Do a search for the word "democraps" or "democrap" on PF, and jethro's name is on the majority of the posts you'll find. A significant percentage of the other posts you find are people quoting jethro.
I'd say that my analysis of his position as "GOP good, Democrat bad. I get bannana now?" is accurate.
jethro, please link me to a post where you have said something nice about a Democrat.
I wish he'd run for Governor, except he probably serves the people better as AG.
geez, jt. now you're alienating yourself from both jethro and rick. this has to be the sixth sign of the impending armageddon :)
i could say the same thing about john mccain as well, so you're in good company.
[Edited by on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:54am.]
McCain as president? What a scary thought.
I post
jethro responds
Misguided as usual, pieter, I don't use those words because that is not what I believe.
And yet over in Religion and Moralshe agrees with the statement that the Democratic Party is not just different but an enemy of what Christians value.
Busted.
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busted? I don't use those words. In general, the democrat party is an enemy to many people. in my view the party's views, if implemented, will undermine the Constitution. Many of those views have done just that. Some democrats see that. Just ask Zell Miller.
Zell Miller has character issues. He's untrustworthy.
No Zell is just an independent thinker. And as a liberal you can't stand that.
He may be an independent thinker. But that doesn't make someone trustworthy.
One is a trait, the other is a virtue.
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So what makes Zell untrustworty? He changed his mind about some issues? What exactly?
"What exactly? "
I think his appearance at the Republican Convention was betrayal.
[Edited by on Nov 23, 2004 at 09:56am.]
I see it as the democrat party leaving Zell.
The Democrats need to clean house.
Send the extremists packing.
Force them over to the Reform or Green parties.
The Democrats need to clean house.
Send the extremists packing.
If they did that there wouldn't be a party left.
"Zell was the one betrayed."
Doublespeak. Prances up to the podium of the other party, and says he was betrayed.
War is Peace. Love is Hate.
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If they did that there wouldn't be a party left.
I don't believe that.
There's many a Democrat that I could come to a compromise with.
Doublespeak.
Think what you will. You only hurt yourself and your party in the end.
There's many a Democrat that I could come to a compromise with.
I see we just disagree over the number of sensible democrats. Remember the democrats are the party that nominated Georeg McGovern, Walter Mondale, Mike Dukkakis and John Kerry. These fellows are not moderates. And remember Al Gore ran to the left of the Clinton record. All this should tell you where the party stands.Â
democrats ignoring the law--AGAIN!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139368,00.html
jethro makes noises about Democrats ignoring the law, but the story he linked begins:
And then it continues
We laugh that we may not weep.
[Edited by on Nov 23, 2004 at 01:20pm.]
according to the article the law requires a machine recount. i don't know if that is accurate or not. but if that is the law then the democrats are advocating breaking it. that is typical democrat party behavior.
I went back and looked at the article. I do not see any reason that you would find it confusing. It appears that the Washington GOP asked for an injunction to stop the hand count. That was denied but the judge set the matter for hearing for this week. Now what about that is confusing?
I'm not confused, jethro, you are. You said that the article was about Democrats ignoring the law, but it was quite clearly about Republicans going to court in an attempt to stop votes from being counted -- something that's becoming a habit with them lately.
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If you could actually comprehend the article you would no otherwise. The facts are, according to the article, that the democrats are hand counting ballots while the statute provides for only machine counts.
::shakes head sadly::
Clause one of that sentence conflicts with clause two, and the article itself has only one sentence on what the law is, without quoting it. Nowhere in the article does it say that the votes are being counted by Democrats alone; however, given the GOP's current hostility toward vote-counting it's not an unjustified assumption -- but you made it, not me.
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The article clearly states:
State law requires a machine recount when the margin is less than 2,000 votes.
The article does not indicate if the law forbids hand recounts.
Without reading the actual statute in question, it's mere speculation.
shakes head sadly::
typo asshole. that is really why I can't stand you. You try to appear superior by such asinine comments. go to hell you sob.
[Edited by on Nov 23, 2004 at 03:06pm.]