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Rick Lundstrom

"Why is it the likes of George Soros and Moveon.org have zero limitations on their involvment in politics, yet you wish to limit organized religion?"

They can politick all they want.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:43 PM Permalink
THX 1138

They can politick all they want.

That's not what I got from your earlier post.


[Edited by on Dec 22, 2004 at 12:45pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:44 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"The point is Rick, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. "

You and Crabs on the same page these days? He says the law is an ass when he doesn't agree with it.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:47 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

A heartless smear.

You should admire the Taliban, jethro.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:53 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

Precisely. The majority of anti-choicers also subscribe to the "God's Plan" method of reasoning, which, in itself, is completely contradictory to their abortion argument.

Well that just shows how much of a dumb s**t you are or how dishonest. Your choice.


[Edited by on Dec 22, 2004 at 12:55pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:55 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

He says the law is an ass when he doesn't agree with it.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:57 PM Permalink
THX 1138

You and Crabs on the same page these days? He says the law is an ass when he doesn't agree with it.

Now you're just deflecting.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:57 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"You are more like the tapa folks than you will admit."

In temperment and political fringe identification you're closer than you will admit.

[Edited by on Dec 22, 2004 at 12:59pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:58 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Now you're just deflecting."

I hit dead center.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 1:59 PM Permalink
Moral Values

jethro bodine 12/22/04 12:55pm

I appear to have hit dead center as well.

Come on jethro...you're the one spinning two different tales...you're either with God or against God...which one is it, flip-flopper?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:33 PM Permalink
crabgrass

you're either with God or against God...which one is it, flip-flopper?

God's plan includes abortions.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:41 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

Come on jethro...you're the one spinning two different tales...you're either with God or against God...which one is it, flip-flopper?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:42 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

God's plan includes abortions.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:44 PM Permalink
crabgrass

bodine thinks God's creations are wrong.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:45 PM Permalink
crabgrass

God gave us free will

I chose not to accept it.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:45 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Answer the question. Do you think God approves of abortion?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 3:50 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Do you think God approves of abortion?

which God?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:10 PM Permalink
crabgrass

do you think God approves of people working on Sunday?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:11 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

which God?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:12 PM Permalink
crabgrass

The one you were referring to when you said abortions were pa

I was referring to your reference.

I could care less what YOUR God does or does not approve of.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:14 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

I was referring to your reference.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:17 PM Permalink
crabgrass

No you weren't I wasn't even posting on the topic at that point. You said Abortions are part of God's plan.

bodine's God, my God, your God, 2 billion Chinese' Gods, The God of Hellfire... you referenced it, you should have known which one you were referencing.

Do you think God approves of abortion?

Absolutely.

[Edited 2 times. Most recently by molegrass on Dec 22, 2004 at 03:25pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:19 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

bodine's God... you referenced it, you should have known which one you were referencing.

Nope nice try, I didn't even read Jethro's posts and hadn't been involved in the conversation. I found your theory interesting when You said that abortions were part of God's plan, it was your god I was interested in, the one who you claim has abortions in the plans. I was respoinding to you and only you not Bodine, Stop trying to deflect and make it about him. I was asking a question to you based on what you wrote. It took you a dance routine to answer as usual.  


[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Dec 22, 2004 at 03:31pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:30 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I didn't even read Jethro's posts and hadn't been involved in the conversation

then you really don't have any idea what it was you were asking.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:37 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I was asking a question to you based on what you wrote. 

and you freely admit to not really knowing anything about what I wrote or why...

It took you a dance routine to answer as usual

when you know what you are taking about I'll give you an answer. You want to fish, I'll dance around your fishing line.

you still haven't answered the question... which God?

[Edited by molegrass on Dec 22, 2004 at 03:39pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:39 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Then you really don't have any idea what it was you were asking.

No, I was asking you and only you. I found your theory that abortions were part of God's plan interesting and was trying to discuss it with you. Something you're apparently incapable of doing without making it about someone else. Unless Jethro is making you type things you were the one who said Abortions were part of God's plan. Nobody else said it or did Jethro use some Jedi Mind trick to make you type that?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:40 PM Permalink
crabgrass

No, I was asking you and only you

you were asking about something I said that was in reference to something you admit you had no knowledge of.

I found your theory that abortions were part of God's plan interesting and was trying to discuss it with you.

It's not my theory, it's an observation of other's theory.

Something you're apparently incapable of doing without making it about someone else

uh... it WAS a reference to what SOMEONE ELSE said. You want to jump in in the middle and pretend it's only about me, don't expect me to play along.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:43 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

uh... it WAS a reference to what SOMEONE ELSE said.

Really who said it? I looked, I didn't see anyone else say it or pen that theory that Abortions are part of God's plan. Who else said it other than you?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:48 PM Permalink
crabgrass

If God has a plan mapped out for every living being and an unborn fetus is considered a living being, then logic dictates that abortion is part of God's plan for those particular living beings.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:52 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I looked, I didn't see anyone else say it or pen that theory that Abortions are part of God's plan. Who else said it other than you?

Didn't you just get done saying you hadn't read any of the other's comments?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:52 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I didn't even read Jethro's posts and hadn't been involved in the conversation.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:53 PM Permalink
crabgrass

and besides, you got your answer, where is mine?

WHICH GOD?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 4:54 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

So you were then forced to write that abortion was part of God's plan.

 

 

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:15 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

WHICH GOD?

Learn how to read. I answered it. I said "it was your god I was interested in, the one who you claim has abortions in the plans.the God you were referring to when you made that statement". I was interested in what you thought. That was obviously a mistake and a waste of time. Forget it, you're incapable of having a conversation.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:19 PM Permalink
crabgrass

I was interested in what you thought. That was obviously a mistake and a waste of time. Forget it, you're incapable of having a conversation.

You are the one who said you weren't reading the conversation.

I said "it was your god I was interested in, the one who you claim has abortions in the plans.the God you were referring to when you made that statement". I was interested in what you thought.

And yet you didn't bother to find out if it was my God or someone else's God I was referring to... or if I was being rhetorical because the statement itself is so subject to interpretation since such things as "which God?" render it meaningless.

and besides, I gave you my answer, absolutely.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:25 PM Permalink
crabgrass

we shouldn't make laws based on what "God" does or does not approve of... because, "which God?"

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:28 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

we shouldn't make laws based on what "God" does or does not approve of... because, "which God?"

Tell that to the Rev.Martin Luther King Jr.


You are the one who said you weren't reading the conversation.

If someone says "I think drugs should be leagal" in a post do I need to read the post before it to know that person thinks Drugs should be legal?

And yet you didn't bother to find out if it was my God or someone else's God I was referring to... or if I was being rhetorical because the statement itself is so subject to interpretation since such things as "which God?" render it meaningless.

That's why I said it was your God or version of God I was interested in.

I was interested in what you had to say. Well no longer, I shant make that same mistake again.


[Edited by on Dec 22, 2004 at 04:37pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:31 PM Permalink
crabgrass

If someone says "I think drugs should be leagal" in a post do I need to read the post before it to know that person thinks Drugs should be legal?

Yes. You actually have to read the post. It may be referring to specific drugs, all drugs or the post may be using the word drugs as an allagory for something else. Or it could be a rhetorical statement meant sarcastically. Yes, you have to read the context.

That's why I said it was your God or version of God I was interested in.

Which was why I asked "which God?"

Don't you think people are capable of being polytheocratic?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:38 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Tell that to the Rev.Martin Luther King Jr.

I would if he was here.

Segregation was wrong, but making it against the law was for the rights of men dealing with other men, not for the approval of God.

[Edited by molegrass on Dec 22, 2004 at 04:40pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:39 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

 we shouldn't make laws based on what "God" does or does not approve of... because, "which God?"

"A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God"

Martin Luther King Jr. 1956


[Edited by on Dec 22, 2004 at 04:42pm.]

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:40 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Tell that to the Rev.Martin Luther King Jr.

I would if he was alive.

Or do you want for us to outlaw working on Sunday?

Or taking His name in vain?

Or respecting your parents (even bad people can have children you know)?

And then there is the question of which God's laws do you want to base these laws on?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:42 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

we shouldn't make laws based on what "God" does or does not approve of... because, "which God?"

"I just want to do God's will. And he’s allowed me to go to the mountain."

Martin Luther King Jr.

 

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 5:51 PM Permalink
crabgrass

"I just want to do God's will. And he’s allowed me to go to the mountain."

good for him... just don't make laws based on God's will.

thanks.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 6:10 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

Nobody else said it or did Jethro use some Jedi Mind trick to make you type that?

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 7:25 PM Permalink
crabgrass

If God has a plan mapped out for every living being and an unborn fetus is considered a living being, then logic dictates that abortion is part of God's plan for those particular living beings.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 7:36 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Its almost official Washington state democrats are thieves

"thieves" in this case being people who insist that legitimate votes that got "forgotten" get counted.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 8:01 PM Permalink
pieter b

Crabs, you don't understand. Liberalism is dead, therefore if a Democrat wins an election, it was obviously stolen.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 8:56 PM Permalink
crabgrass

Crabs, you don't understand. Liberalism is dead, therefore if a Democrat wins an election, it was obviously stolen.

Yes, it was stolen, which is why you find republicans in office even if a deomcrat won.

It was stolen alright, but not by a democrat.

That you want to ignore hundreds of "forgotten" votes tells me who the thief is.

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 9:09 PM Permalink
THX 1138

Pathetic

Truly pathetic

Wed, 12/22/2004 - 10:23 PM Permalink