well don't tell me about it...keep it to yourself.
Luke 8:16 No one lights a lamp and hides it in a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead he puts it on a stand, so that those who come in can see the light.
My insight on Jethro Bodine is limited since I am fairly new to this forum. I have read many threads here and Jethro does seem to be his own person. I've noticed a lot of subtle hostility on some of these threads - a lot of you must have a history together to be so tough on each other.
I'm not a fan of Religion but everyone has their opinion. Jethro just wants everyone to share his, and that is naive.
I'm not a fan of discussing Religion. To each their own is my attitude.
Exactly. Maybe that's why this thread has less than a hundred posts. You really aren't gonna 'change' anybody's mind on such a subject. It's pretty much black and white when you cut to the chase. Although it is nice you created the thread to keep it from sidetracking the others.
that's okay with me...your heaven sounds boring as fuck anyway.
If his phiosophy on religion is "to each his own," how would you know what his perception of heaven is? and how would you know it isn't something you wouldn't like?
I'm not a fan of Religion but everyone has their opinion. Jethro just wants everyone to share his, and that is naive.
Christians want everyone to share in their religion. But have I given any indication that I think that will happen? No, I don't think so. Therefore, I have no idea where the comment about being naive comes from. Maybe you can explain.
I can't speak for Jethro, but I don't think he wants everyone to agree with him as much as he believes he's right, and that's THAT!
Who doesn't believe they are right about some things. But, JT, I don't think I have taken that position on this topic. Now I know some people assert that my anti-abortion views are based on religion. However, that is not the case as I have explained in the past.
There once was a man named George Thomas, a pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning he came to the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage, and set it by the pulpit. Several eyebrows were raised and, as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak...
"I was walking through town yesterday when I saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, 'What you got there son?' "Just some old birds," came the reply. What are you gonna do with them?" I asked. "Take 'em home and have fun with 'em," he answered. "I'm gonna tease'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em fight. I'm gonna have a real good time."
"But you'll get tired of those birds sooner or later. What will you do?" "Oh, I got some cats," said the little boy. "They like birds. I'll take'em to them." The pastor was silent for a moment. "How much do you want for those birds, son?" "Huh?? !!! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing - they ain't even pretty!" "How much?" the pastor asked again. The boy sized up the pastor as if he were crazy and said, "$10?" The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars persuaded the birds out, setting them free.
Well, that explained the empty bird cage on the pulpit, and then the pastor began to tell this story......
One day Satan and God were having a conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting. "Yes, sir, I just caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!"
"What are you going to do with them?" God asked.
Satan replied, "Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and abuse each other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to invent guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"
"And what will you do when you get done with them?" God asked.
"Oh, I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly.
"How much do you want for them?" God asked.
"Oh, you don't want those people. They ain't no good. Why, you'll take them and they'll just hate you. They'll spit on you, curse you and kill you!! You don't want those people!!"
"How much?" He asked again. Satan looked at God and sneered, "All your tears, and all your blood."
God said, "DONE!" Then He paid the price.
The pastor picked up the cage he opened the door and he walked from the pulpit.
The secularity of modern times works against marriage harder than the welfare system ever did. That secularity encourages the marriageable to think of marriage as a consumer choice, a lifestyle decision, a contract, without higher implications. Implications like what? Like the total, irrefrangible union of two lives, like, in the words of the old "Book of Common Prayer," "the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord ... "
It becomes hard to resist the idea of gay marriage when marriage, the institution, becomes just a convenient arrangement for two people who enjoy each other enough to share bed and board for a time. The churches themselves have helped society define marriage that way with their growing laxness about divorce and premarital relations.
We spend a lot on job training and other social programs that have failed. Why not help to preserve marriage? If you are concerned about religion maybe the government should get out of it altogether. But no liberals want to expand it and allow gays to get married.
Sometimes I think the perfect treatment for that sort would be holding them to their own strict Biblical standards. You got a problem with scientific "theories?" Well, good, since we're still talking about germ theory, most medical treatments are a sin. If you get a simple infection that turns into something life-threatening, that's just tough. Moses and Jesus didn't need antibiotics, so you don't either.
Once a person pops out of the womb, you can bet those anti-abortion, fundie fanatics could give a shit. They're cowards who attempt to speak for a fetus because a fetus can't tell them to fuck off and die. The more well-off anti-choicers, of course, would happily pay for their daughters abortion if she wasn't married or had hit the sheets with a man who wasn't lily-white.
It is clear the person that wrote the above does not have religion or morals.
some fool wrote: Sometimes I think the perfect treatment for that sort would be holding them to their own strict Biblical standards. You got a problem with scientific "theories?" Well, good, since we're still talking about germ theory, most medical treatments are a sin. If you get a simple infection that turns into something life-threatening, that's just tough. Moses and Jesus didn't need antibiotics, so you don't either.
crabs made this statement: I can believe that you don't understand it, yes.
I understand that the author of the paragraph doesn't understand Christians or Christianity.
Jethro, I think Bush's marriage sanctity plan has good intentions. I think it's going about it wrong though. The plan aims at promoting marriage sanctity in poorer people? The money used for it could go towards financial counseling, or helping the poor get to a better financial status. Finances cause a huge amount of conflict in marriage when you're poor. If you're poor, you're probably working a number of jobs to try and help yourself. This leaves less time for family time. Also there's less disposable income for leisure activities to help with a family's happiness and well-being. You can't force someone to believe in marriage in the spirit that religious people do. They have to believe in it themselves. I think the money, if it were to be used, would be better towards a financial-based goal, not a marriage sanctity thinking goal.
Catholics are as likely as women in the general population to have an abortion, while Protestants are only 69% as likely and Evangelical or born-again Christians are only 39% as likely
So Christians commit sin. Stop the presses. You just don't get it dude.
my friend jethro bodine knows this is true.
I am not your friend, phineas. I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to make yourself respectable at my expense!
well don't tell me about it...keep it to yourself.
Luke 8:16 No one lights a lamp and hides it in a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead he puts it on a stand, so that those who come in can see the light.
your boogie man or mine?
and this has what exactly to do with the very specific instructions concerning prayer?
thought you guys were supposed to wash other people's feet
I don't live in fear of God.
Nor should you.
Jethro Bodine, you claim your God made us. Wouldn't you freak if my God made you and your God?
That oughta be a bumper sticker...
Jethro Bodine, you claim your God made us. Wouldn;t you freak if my God made you and your God?
Wouldn't you freak if you learned Jethro made you?
:-)
My insight on Jethro Bodine is limited since I am fairly new to this forum. I have read many threads here and Jethro does seem to be his own person. I've noticed a lot of subtle hostility on some of these threads - a lot of you must have a history together to be so tough on each other.
I'm not a fan of Religion but everyone has their opinion. Jethro just wants everyone to share his, and that is naive.
I've noticed a lot of subtle hostility on some of these threads - a lot of you must have a history together to be so tough on each other.
Subtle? I guess were not doing something right, because I try to be obvious about my hostility. :-)
But seriously, some of us get along better than others. Not many are truly aggressive towards each other.
I'm not a fan of Religion but everyone has their opinion. Jethro just wants everyone to share his, which will never happen.
I'm not a fan of discussing Religion. To each their own is my attitude.
I can't speak for Jethro, but I don't think he wants everyone to agree with him as much as he believes he's right, and that's THAT!
I'm not a fan of discussing Religion. To each their own is my attitude.
Exactly. Maybe that's why this thread has less than a hundred posts. You really aren't gonna 'change' anybody's mind on such a subject. It's pretty much black and white when you cut to the chase. Although it is nice you created the thread to keep it from sidetracking the others.
It's pretty much black and white when you cut to the chase.
Why you gotta bring colors into the mix, ninja??
Nah... j/k.. but in all seriousness, I agree... I hardly ever pay attention to religion stuff anyhow.
I will say this CM. I'm right, and the rest of you are going to hell.
Thank you for your attention.
Yeeah... Hell here I come! no more cold weather! WHOO!!!
that's okay with me...your heaven sounds boring as fuck anyway.
that's okay with me...your heaven sounds boring as fuck anyway.
If his phiosophy on religion is "to each his own," how would you know what his perception of heaven is? and how would you know it isn't something you wouldn't like?
if it's his hell, it's his heaven too
if it's his hell, it's his heaven too
Again, making assumptions about another persons' beliefs. It's possible for people to believe in one and not the other.
you have not figured in that my "to each his own" perception can be whatever I want...so I can believe that his is whatever I want it to be.
these are the jokes, folks...such as they are
Several of my co-workers believe religion is best discussed while at the bar, beer in hand.
I have to agree with them.
you have not figured in that my "to each his own" perception can be whatever I want...so I can believe that his is whatever I want it to be.
WOW
I agree with that beer line, yo...
Most anything is better discussed with beer around.
I'm not a fan of Religion but everyone has their opinion. Jethro just wants everyone to share his, and that is naive.
Christians want everyone to share in their religion. But have I given any indication that I think that will happen? No, I don't think so. Therefore, I have no idea where the comment about being naive comes from. Maybe you can explain.
I can't speak for Jethro, but I don't think he wants everyone to agree with him as much as he believes he's right, and that's THAT!
Who doesn't believe they are right about some things. But, JT, I don't think I have taken that position on this topic. Now I know some people assert that my anti-abortion views are based on religion. However, that is not the case as I have explained in the past.
Several of my co-workers believe religion is best discussed while at the bar, beer in hand.
I have to agree with them.
Three subjects to avoid discussing with co-workers, even over a beer: Religion, Abortion, and Politics.
Three subjects to avoid discussing with co-workers, even over a beer: Religion, Abortion, and Politics.
Amen.
No pun intended.
especially over a beer in some cases.
There once was a man named George Thomas, a pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning he came to the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage, and set it by the pulpit. Several eyebrows were raised and, as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak...
"I was walking through town yesterday when I saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, 'What you got there son?' "Just some old birds," came the reply. What are you gonna do with them?" I asked. "Take 'em home and have fun with 'em," he answered. "I'm gonna tease'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em fight. I'm gonna have a real good time."
"But you'll get tired of those birds sooner or later. What will you do?" "Oh, I got some cats," said the little boy. "They like birds. I'll take'em to them." The pastor was silent for a moment. "How much do you want for those birds, son?" "Huh?? !!! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing - they ain't even pretty!" "How much?" the pastor asked again. The boy sized up the pastor as if he were crazy and said, "$10?" The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars persuaded the birds out, setting them free.
Well, that explained the empty bird cage on the pulpit, and then the pastor began to tell this story......
One day Satan and God were having a conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting. "Yes, sir, I just caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!"
"What are you going to do with them?" God asked.
Satan replied, "Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and abuse each other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to invent guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"
"And what will you do when you get done with them?" God asked.
"Oh, I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly.
"How much do you want for them?" God asked.
"Oh, you don't want those people. They ain't no good. Why, you'll take them and they'll just hate you. They'll spit on you, curse you and kill you!! You don't want those people!!"
"How much?" He asked again. Satan looked at God and sneered, "All your tears, and all your blood."
God said, "DONE!" Then He paid the price.
The pastor picked up the cage he opened the door and he walked from the pulpit.
"I'm pretty religious. I pray every day, but I'm from New England, so I just keep it to myself."
My favorite book from the New Testament is Job.
"I'm feeling a little more Job-like recently."
The secularity of modern times works against marriage harder than the welfare system ever did. That secularity encourages the marriageable to think of marriage as a consumer choice, a lifestyle decision, a contract, without higher implications. Implications like what? Like the total, irrefrangible union of two lives, like, in the words of the old "Book of Common Prayer," "the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord ... "
It becomes hard to resist the idea of gay marriage when marriage, the institution, becomes just a convenient arrangement for two people who enjoy each other enough to share bed and board for a time. The churches themselves have helped society define marriage that way with their growing laxness about divorce and premarital relations.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/billmurchison/bm20040127.shtml
Bush wants to spend 1.5 BILLION of your dollars to counsel married couples.
gonna force Religion on us?
We spend a lot on job training and other social programs that have failed. Why not help to preserve marriage? If you are concerned about religion maybe the government should get out of it altogether. But no liberals want to expand it and allow gays to get married.
that's my point...you guys bitch about spending on social programs, but when Bush does it you change your tune.
I'm not so much concerned about it as my country's Constitution is.
it's called "equality"
You know your response makes no sense.
goddamn you are fucked up, bodine
why is it when you don't have an actual response, you always play the "goddamn you are fucked up, bodine" game?
I have responses, it's just I can see how futile it would be to explain them to someone who thinks such fucked up things.
I agree with Crabby.
Dubya needs to stop spending like a Liberal Democrat.
I have responses, it's just I can see how futile it would be to explain them to someone who thinks such fucked up things.
One of the "fucked up things" I think is that you are f***** up, crabs.
yes it is.
I would hope someone with such a mindset as you have would see me that way.
if you thought I was normal I would be ashamed of it.
can you believe this idiocy?
if you thought I was normal I would be ashamed of it.
You should be ashamed, crabs. But I get the impression you don't know what that is.
I can believe that you don't understand it, yes.
ashamed of what exactly?
It is clear the person that wrote the above does not have religion or morals.
some fool wrote: Sometimes I think the perfect treatment for that sort would be holding them to their own strict Biblical standards. You got a problem with scientific "theories?" Well, good, since we're still talking about germ theory, most medical treatments are a sin. If you get a simple infection that turns into something life-threatening, that's just tough. Moses and Jesus didn't need antibiotics, so you don't either.
crabs made this statement: I can believe that you don't understand it, yes.
I understand that the author of the paragraph doesn't understand Christians or Christianity.
That's some wacky shit there, Jethro.
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo.
I wrote: You should be ashamed, crabs. But I get the impression you don't know what that is.
crabs response: ashamed of what exactly?
Well you should be ashamed of being you. But my main point was whether you understand the concept of shame at all.
Catholics are as likely as women in the general population to have an abortion, while Protestants are only 69% as likely and Evangelical or born-again Christians are only 39% as likely
why on earth would I do that?
Jethro, I think Bush's marriage sanctity plan has good intentions. I think it's going about it wrong though. The plan aims at promoting marriage sanctity in poorer people? The money used for it could go towards financial counseling, or helping the poor get to a better financial status. Finances cause a huge amount of conflict in marriage when you're poor. If you're poor, you're probably working a number of jobs to try and help yourself. This leaves less time for family time. Also there's less disposable income for leisure activities to help with a family's happiness and well-being. You can't force someone to believe in marriage in the spirit that religious people do. They have to believe in it themselves. I think the money, if it were to be used, would be better towards a financial-based goal, not a marriage sanctity thinking goal.
the intention is to shovel public monies into Churches
Catholics are as likely as women in the general population to have an abortion, while Protestants are only 69% as likely and Evangelical or born-again Christians are only 39% as likely
So Christians commit sin. Stop the presses. You just don't get it dude.