THX has inquired with me what to do about the brewing feud here in the Cooler. I checked in at the In The News thread, and I see why he's concerned.
You know what? You all need to grow the fuck up. (And by "you all", I mean the ones who know that I'm talking to them.) I assume you are all adults here, not middle school kids. If someone says something you don't want to hear, then ignore it, or ignore them, or leave that thread, or something. Going crying to THX, and quoting this thing or that thing trying to prove who's being less of an asshole to whom is ridiculous. If any of you think you could be a better moderator, then go for it. Click here, start a Member Folder of your own, and have a blast.
Meanwhile, try and realize that THX is not an all-wise or all-powerful moderator with some secret key to even-handedness. He is a person, doing his best. What I saw in the In The News thread was a bunch of babies, to be frank. And if you have a problem with me for saying that, you can take it right here: 14204 Owl Creek Rd., Nevada City, CA and we can settle it "like men" as they say. Other than that, seriously folks, you ought to grow up and learn how to get along, or how to stay out of each others' way.
Also, there is a whole big public area on this site, so if you don't like THX's moderation decisions, you can head up there and rant all you want, and no one will block you or delete your posts or anything.
I realize this is hotheaded, and that you aren't all being whiny babies, but what I see is that some of you are being unfair to THX and unfair to the Water Cooler area. You are dragging it down, and that sucks. Trying to figure out whose fault it is, or who started it, or what attacks are personal attacks, is beside the point. The point is- everyone who is being a problem should stop being a problem, and then THX won't have to make the decisions that y'all are whining about. And I won't have to worry about his worry that the WC is going to descend into a massive feud.
As far as rules go, my opinion is that setting rules, and promising to enforce them, inevitably reults in bullshit like the last 10 or 20 posts in "In The News."
If adults refuse to act like adults, there's not much that any moderator can do to make them.
You're right, I don't care for Repo but, if you haven't noticed, he is still participating here.
I've had my issues with you, yet you are still here.
I've had my issues with Bud, Sloop, Jethro..... they're all welcome here.
Doesn't that say something? Does that not show I'm trying? I'm not trying to be King of this forum but, I am human and do get angry and that's why I changed that one post of mine earlier.
As far as Wedding Singer, the username has been dealt with. That's all I can do.
I think we need to define what is or what isn't a personal attack. If someone says "all liberals are idiots" some might take it personally even though it wasn't directed at them. It was a generalization, and although it's a cheap tired tactic it wasn't aimed directly at one person. If someone say "hey your an fricken idiot", then that is a personal attack. In both cases those things can be taken personally. But one is different from the other. They are both lame to do. In retrospect what Dennis said that started this was not neccisarily aimed at one person. It was inflamitory and disgusting no doubt, and I did take it personally. It's a hard line to draw I know, but if I were Chinese and someone said I think Chinese are stupid and lazy. The poster knew I was Chinese Is that a personal attack or a generalization ? It's a hard call no doubt. I don't envy your possition JT. I think we all (including me) just need to think a bit more about what or how we react. It's hard, daily I'd like to just lay into someone because I might feel they are an idiot. But calling them that or getting personal will do nothing but get ugly and uglier, that's why perhaps we go zero tolerance ? I don't know, I would hate to lose the board. On the other hand I would hate to get to the point where we were afraid to speak our minds and being censored. It's a hard call no doubt. How about if we all just try to watch the personal attacks ? count me in among those who will do their best. What do you say folks ? Back to the issue and good honest clean fun or silly debate ?
Good Job JT, Sorry if I caused ya any undue grief. I realize the pay is nill. And the conditions can be challenging. But thanks and my apologies for any grief I caused. I think I'm just going to have to drink less coffee. Yep that's it, I'm cutting back to two pots a day.
I'm gonna sue you and everyone else on this board unless you delete all members whose names have both a 'd' and a 'q' in them and apologize to my sister. Plus, tie my shoes.
I guess we ought to treat JT like the sysop at PioneerPlanet. I think most people respected the views of the sysop then and lived by them.
I'll say it again, and I'll challenge anyone to deny it: It was HARD to get dumped over there. I can say it now, it NEVER happened to me, and I was able to express any view I needed to express.
I saw the rule as fairly simple at the PioneerPlanet. Don't behave like a jerk and you won't get dumped.
But over there, there were people who courted trouble, and saw getting dumped as a badge of honor.
I'm gonna sue you and everyone else on this board unless you delete all members whose names have both a 'd' and a 'q' in them and apologize to my sister. Plus, tie my shoes.
I will delete any "DQ" members. I will tie your shoes. But I simply refuse to apologize to your sister!
I have never been dumped except I got dumped this one time the day after prom, she said she wanted to be friends so alomost 20 years later I call her 2 times a day everyday to see if she still wants to be friends, who cares what some silly restraining order says. man was that low and depressing I got really drunk the next......Oh sorry nevermind.
I accidentally put my car key into my house, and it started. So I drove it around for a while. Then I parked it on the freeway and told everybody to get the hell out of my driveway.
I live on a freeway which is great, except for when I leave my driveway I have to be doing 70 miles per hour. -Stephen Wright. What ever happened to him? I haven't seen him much.
THX, I was thinking about this. Maybe you should warn/chastise off list? Either through e-mail or the live message function?
That way, you're not adding fuel to the fire, you're providing feedback, nobody can jump down your throat with the whine "Why didn't you discipline (fill in the blank)?" It would be between you and the offending party, and everybody else can assume that if the line gets crossed, it will be dealt with.
Rules!Rules will always be broken and doors locked will always open!With some knowledge!And most of the assholes have the knowledge!I say why waste your time with rules. If you dont like something said or someone. Dont read there post just move on or stay and fight! Its all entertainment!;)
I lurked here for a while until I decided I liked everybody :-D
Yahoo Clubs is being converted to Yahoo Groups, which is a forum almost as bad as what PP opted for. I've been encouraging people there to look here as an alternative. You know they're gonna lurk before they jump. (Put on your best outfits and smile pretty!)
Usually I am the one to stir the pot...(did I say pot?) glad to see I am not in any trouble this time....THX....you are the BOMB...LANCE you are too...both keep up the good work!
Thanks for creating some space to hang out and shoot the breeze...
Well?
Clothing optional!
Hey, as long as the rest of us don't have to see you.....
Go for it.
:-)
You SAY you want a peaceful environment, yet you allow angst if it comes from those you seem to like.
I've been more than fair with you, as my list of marked messages of yours can prove and as my ever growing list of your fake usernames can attest to.
I am posting a no one other than me. I saw your allegation earlier and didn't give it dignity.
Wedding singer isn't me and you know it.
But as soon as Wedding Singer used to post, you hailed him as a hero, joined him in a big guffaw. I don't know if you did it this time.
Why did you do that?
Do you think what he's doing is right?
"Why did you do that?"
Because I enjoy a good sense of humor.
"Do you think what he's doing is right?"
Do you think what Bill Mahr is doing is right? You've praised him before.
THX has inquired with me what to do about the brewing feud here in the Cooler. I checked in at the In The News thread, and I see why he's concerned.
You know what? You all need to grow the fuck up. (And by "you all", I mean the ones who know that I'm talking to them.) I assume you are all adults here, not middle school kids. If someone says something you don't want to hear, then ignore it, or ignore them, or leave that thread, or something. Going crying to THX, and quoting this thing or that thing trying to prove who's being less of an asshole to whom is ridiculous. If any of you think you could be a better moderator, then go for it. Click here, start a Member Folder of your own, and have a blast.
Meanwhile, try and realize that THX is not an all-wise or all-powerful moderator with some secret key to even-handedness. He is a person, doing his best. What I saw in the In The News thread was a bunch of babies, to be frank. And if you have a problem with me for saying that, you can take it right here: 14204 Owl Creek Rd., Nevada City, CA and we can settle it "like men" as they say. Other than that, seriously folks, you ought to grow up and learn how to get along, or how to stay out of each others' way.
Also, there is a whole big public area on this site, so if you don't like THX's moderation decisions, you can head up there and rant all you want, and no one will block you or delete your posts or anything.
I realize this is hotheaded, and that you aren't all being whiny babies, but what I see is that some of you are being unfair to THX and unfair to the Water Cooler area. You are dragging it down, and that sucks. Trying to figure out whose fault it is, or who started it, or what attacks are personal attacks, is beside the point. The point is- everyone who is being a problem should stop being a problem, and then THX won't have to make the decisions that y'all are whining about. And I won't have to worry about his worry that the WC is going to descend into a massive feud.
As far as rules go, my opinion is that setting rules, and promising to enforce them, inevitably reults in bullshit like the last 10 or 20 posts in "In The News."
If adults refuse to act like adults, there's not much that any moderator can do to make them.
You're right, I don't care for Repo but, if you haven't noticed, he is still participating here.
I've had my issues with you, yet you are still here.
I've had my issues with Bud, Sloop, Jethro..... they're all welcome here.
Doesn't that say something? Does that not show I'm trying? I'm not trying to be King of this forum but, I am human and do get angry and that's why I changed that one post of mine earlier.
As far as Wedding Singer, the username has been dealt with. That's all I can do.
Thanks, THX...
I think you're doing a great job.
I think we need to define what is or what isn't a personal attack. If someone says "all liberals are idiots" some might take it personally even though it wasn't directed at them. It was a generalization, and although it's a cheap tired tactic it wasn't aimed directly at one person. If someone say "hey your an fricken idiot", then that is a personal attack. In both cases those things can be taken personally. But one is different from the other. They are both lame to do. In retrospect what Dennis said that started this was not neccisarily aimed at one person. It was inflamitory and disgusting no doubt, and I did take it personally. It's a hard line to draw I know, but if I were Chinese and someone said I think Chinese are stupid and lazy. The poster knew I was Chinese Is that a personal attack or a generalization ? It's a hard call no doubt. I don't envy your possition JT. I think we all (including me) just need to think a bit more about what or how we react. It's hard, daily I'd like to just lay into someone because I might feel they are an idiot. But calling them that or getting personal will do nothing but get ugly and uglier, that's why perhaps we go zero tolerance ? I don't know, I would hate to lose the board. On the other hand I would hate to get to the point where we were afraid to speak our minds and being censored. It's a hard call no doubt. How about if we all just try to watch the personal attacks ? count me in among those who will do their best. What do you say folks ? Back to the issue and good honest clean fun or silly debate ?
Good Job JT, Sorry if I caused ya any undue grief. I realize the pay is nill. And the conditions can be challenging. But thanks and my apologies for any grief I caused. I think I'm just going to have to drink less coffee. Yep that's it, I'm cutting back to two pots a day.
Thanks Luv2Fly. It ain't nothing. I truly enjoy the people that come here. I can tolerate the flareups every once in a while.
:-)
I'm gonna sue you and everyone else on this board unless you delete all members whose names have both a 'd' and a 'q' in them and apologize to my sister. Plus, tie my shoes.
;-)
(I really shouldn't post messages after 2 AM)
I guess we ought to treat JT like the sysop at PioneerPlanet. I think most people respected the views of the sysop then and lived by them.
I'll say it again, and I'll challenge anyone to deny it: It was HARD to get dumped over there. I can say it now, it NEVER happened to me, and I was able to express any view I needed to express.
I saw the rule as fairly simple at the PioneerPlanet. Don't behave like a jerk and you won't get dumped.
But over there, there were people who courted trouble, and saw getting dumped as a badge of honor.
I'm gonna sue you and everyone else on this board unless you delete all members whose names have both a 'd' and a 'q' in them and apologize to my sister. Plus, tie my shoes.
I will delete any "DQ" members. I will tie your shoes. But I simply refuse to apologize to your sister!
Don't behave like a jerk and you won't get dumped.
That's it exactly.
Rick,
Post 18, was dead on. I went several years under my original nick. I hope to do the same here.
I have never been dumped except
I got dumped this one time the day after prom, she said she wanted to be friends so alomost 20 years later I call her 2 times a day everyday to see if she still wants to be friends, who cares what some silly restraining order says. man was that low and depressing I got really drunk the next......Oh sorry nevermind.
I call her 2 times a day everyday......
LOL!
Only 2? Maybe you're just not assertive enough?
You've got way too much class to be banned.
"I'm not afraid of heights,,,,I'm afraid of widths"
Stephen Wright?
Yes it is Nadho.
I accidentally put my car key into my house, and it started. So I drove it around for a while. Then I parked it on the freeway and told everybody to get the hell out of my driveway.
-Steven Wright
I live on a freeway which is great, except for when I leave my driveway I have to be doing 70 miles per hour. -Stephen Wright. What ever happened to him? I haven't seen him much.
He was just in town a month or two ago. Sometime in 2002.
THX, I was thinking about this. Maybe you should warn/chastise off list? Either through e-mail or the live message function?
That way, you're not adding fuel to the fire, you're providing feedback, nobody can jump down your throat with the whine "Why didn't you discipline (fill in the blank)?" It would be between you and the offending party, and everybody else can assume that if the line gets crossed, it will be dealt with.
Tried that already... Didn't work. So far anyway. Doesn't mean I won't keep trying.
I think I should make up the rules and be exempt from them! =)
I think I should make up the rules and be exempt from them! =)
Sorry, only I get to do that here.
Create your own damn forum if you want to be King.
:-)
Damn, always a catch!
you must admit that I've behaved quite well on this forum...
It must be the Nixon gif ; )
Just kidding, I've straightened my ass out, too. I think we're all humbled by past experiences....all except one..... LOL
you must admit that I've behaved quite well on this forum...
I would agree and think most everyone is behaving quite well.
The ignore button helps a lot...
I have 2 posters on my ignore list - so when they post inflammatory stuff - I don't even know it...
now if only we can do the same thing for the "private messages"...
one of the people on my "ignore" list sends me unwanted private messages...
my guess is that "he" would like me to start a war on these boards with/against him...
It's something a few WebX hosts have been wanting. It's probably designable, but it'll take someone bothering to do it, and it's not totally simple.
I'm going to be trying to put together a little PF development team, so we can try and get feature requests going on quicker.
Rules!Rules will always be broken and doors locked will always open!With some knowledge!And most of the assholes have the knowledge!I say why waste your time with rules. If you dont like something said or someone. Dont read there post just move on or stay and fight! Its all entertainment!;)
Ok one rule NO LURKERS!hehe
Why no lurkers?
Why no lurkers?
Cuz they steal all the best noodles.
lurkers can be dealt with, um, appropriately.
How can you steal what is given away freely?
We've all been lurkers somewhere, just like we've all been newbies, its all good :›
I lurked here for a while until I decided I liked everybody :-D
Yahoo Clubs is being converted to Yahoo Groups, which is a forum almost as bad as what PP opted for. I've been encouraging people there to look here as an alternative. You know they're gonna lurk before they jump. (Put on your best outfits and smile pretty!)
How can you steal what is given away freely?
I don't give it away freely!
:-)
Where's Scribe ? We need the real answer on that one ;)
Usually I am the one to stir the pot...(did I say pot?) glad to see I am not in any trouble this time....THX....you are the BOMB...LANCE you are too...both keep up the good work!
Thanks for creating some space to hang out and shoot the breeze...
Lord knows I appreciate it!!
RRR
(Put on your best outfits and smile pretty!)
<stomping feet> I DON'T WANNA!
by Randy ...'Thanks for creating some space to hang out and shoot the breeze...'
DITTO
Thank you Lance :)
I love reading AW's one liners...always so... to the point and usually keen as the white rabbit :)