Coolio. I guess I just doubt they will do that again. But, your guess is as good as mine.
If they were to pull something like that this year, there is going to be a good chance it wont be found. In 55 no one knew what the 'rules' were, so they looked everywhere(I presume), but nowadays, you dont have people looking under mailboxes and such. We'll see.
Hmmm, Minnesota Fats, I'm not sure if your percentages are just for interest or if they're meant to make a point. If the point is that they are all low numbers, that's only natural as there is no hiding place with a high number. Highland is the place its been at the most and that only rates a 10%.
As for your top picks:
Downtown St. Paul (not in a park): Its been quite a while since it was not in a park. Long enough to imply that it may never be outside of a park again. Of course we don't know that for sure, but in my mind it creates enough doubt that I would put such a possibility at the bottom of my list rather than the top.
Phalen: I have this towards the bottom of my Top 10 because there is still some question about it being closed at night.
Wakefield: The argument here is similar to the not-in-a-park argument above. Its been something like 12 years since it was outside of St. Paul. Is that just a coincidence or did someone decide at some point that it will never be outside of St. Paul again? Again we may never know unless it does appear outside the city. Also, they may not want to risk lawsuits with suburban cities. And I can't remember, is this park in West St. Paul or is this the one in Maplewood that Maplewood almost sued over the last time it was there? If its in Maplewood, I would put this park dead last on my list.
Battle Creek: A good possibility, though its only been 6 years since it was there last.
Ramsey County (not in a park): Combine the above two arguments.
The medallion has either been inside somthing 48% of the time, attached to something 24%, in nothing 20% of the time, or wrapped in somthing 8% of the time.
Well not to mention 1955 or 59 being a bit less populous maybe? I don't see them sticking it to a light pole or something in the middle of downtown today or out in a burb for that matter...simpler rules for a simpler time :)
Besides, that question will probably be answered in the first clue since it usually mentions a park and generally mentions St. Paul. If it doesn't then that expands the possibilities.
Actually Tim, I think I heard that also about Hidden Falls, though have never experienced it. (At Phalen I went for quite a walk last year). It was hidden there just back in 1993 whereas Phalen was like 1985 or something. I don't know, maybe I'm underestimating Phalen. What would be odd about that though is the last time it was in Phalen, it had been in Newell the year before. I guess I have a little trouble believing history will repeat itself like that.
Next time I am on this board it will be Saturday!!!! I know there is something going on Saturday, but I just can't remember what. Anyhoo, see y'alls later!
I guess it was Kellogg that followed Newell back in the 80's. Maybe I should move Kellogg down the list then, especially now that they have all those lights there.
That's alright, you had a couple I didn't and I have a couple you didn't. Some are a bit more obvious than others and thus likely to appear on a lot of lists. Thanks for the compliment though.
The only gate at Phalen - but it won't be there this year as it was there last year and they moved it to Newell - is the one on the main drive and ittiz for cars not folks. Folks can still walk all over that ding-dang park and Allison and I can attest to that. He covered the north/north east part last year and I covered the west section. Jake was also there. You can get in if you want. You just can't drive in thru the main gate past 10:00 PM. So?
Green, AW and Jake....breakin' the law, breakin' the law...lol :) As if any gate short of electrified razor wire is going to keep treasure hunters out of a park :)
Bax! We didn't break a single law! LOL!!! Allison parked way way up north in the parking area and hoofed it in, down to the beach area. Not a law broken.
I parked along by the houses, across from retirement community-like place and hoofed it in a tiny bit (nowhere near as far or as long as Allison).
And DDY knows electricity. He could "ace" the electrified razor wire gate in a heart beat! So not even that's gonna keep out these Diggers!
Haven't been in for a while, and I'm not going through old messages. Do any other coolercrew members feel offended that a commercial on the radio is telling people to visit us here so that can get all of the dirt on the clues from the tresure hunting pros?? I'm sure we all appreciate the compliment of being pros, but do you want all of KDWB's listeners invading the park cuz they don't have a clue as to what the hunt is but know that there is money involved?? Personally I'd have to say that my skills and thoughts won't be shared with the entire twin cities. Good Luck to all and I'll see everyone in the park when it shall be diggin time!!
Who's to say that one/some o'those KDWB listeners won't have a good handle on noodling - maybe even better than some already here - and share their knowledge?
This is a public message board - open to all - and I believe the general concensus has always been, "The More, The Merrier!" At least that's always proven true: the more that come in here and share, the merrier and funner things get.
I see your point, and do understand that it is open to all, and it's my decision. But I can also see the hunt turning into a teen drinking/party fest for money as well, and I would rather not help them find the right park. I really don't want the hunt to get too big and out of control and have this year be the last, that's my concern. Maybe I'm overreacting to it, but when the commercial came on at work today and the other people that heard it only heard 10,000, and started asking others, I realized/think it is a negative thing more than positive.
Hi! I've enjoyed trying to work the clues people have been fabricating. Allison mentioned that his quiz from last year was based on the 2nd edition of the hunter's guide. Is there a 3rd edition out now? Any info would be helpful! Only 1 more day!!!! =)
Tiny, I don't think there's a third addition yet... But if you'll be at McGovern's tomorrow nite, you can ask the author yourself. Too, you can beg him to continue doing updates... He was grumbling last year that ittiz so hard to update the book and he's tired o'counting all the trees! We threatened him with bodily harm if he ever quit!
Terry, you're going up north just to come back again tomorrow? I suppose you have to make that one last trip rather than have three weeks between visits.
Regalman- I think you have some good points. No one is interested in seeing the hunt get so chaotic and destructive that it gets cancelled. And a lot of people would just as soon not have the competition. But the PP does have the right to promote itself and this event to help pay for it. I'm sure you've noticed they now have advertising at the top of the page which they never did before. Personally I still plan on discussing things, but I think I'm more likely to post my best guesses in my Yahoo club instead of here.
green, electrified fences are real easy to get around. an alligator clip attached to something grounded to take out the juice, and well, the rest is history. besides, they could only throw up so much razorwire before the park stopped looking like a park, and more like a prison.
Just checking in before heading out to dinner. While I share people's concern that the prize may have gotten too big, I am not too worried. After all, most of the early guesses I put on here are wrong (not on purpose, they just are wrong), and by the time we get it narrowed down to a park, even the offline community seems to know it through radio, TV, etc. I agree with an earlier poster--the fun on this board is not to try to gain "secret" info--it's to be the guy whose early wild guess turns out to be right!!!!
Hey everyone! I'm thinking with it being the 50th Anniversary, they will do something special (well, duh!). What do you think the chances are it will be in Highland Park? Highland Park is a rather large park as opposed to placing it in a small park. But, Ma Press may take advantage of this, b/c I bet they want this hunt to be remembered. Of course that's just my opinion, I may be wrong...
- Derick Davis
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Hello all, finally enjoying a little peace and quiet around our house. Kids are all in bed (for the moment, at least).
Terry, hope you find your book!
I've heard the commercials referencing the cooler crew, too - and I think it's TOO COOL! Dad was trying to talk to me last night, trying to have a *real* conversation (which come few and far between) about some serious stuff with his job....and I had to shush him, because I was hearing this on the radio!
Allison,
Your list with the percentage of times the medallion has been at that location:
My top five picks:
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Fat- downtown St. Paul, not in a park? I will eat my shovel if you are correct.
Percent it has been Downtown St. Paul, not in a park-0%
Tim,
I believe it was found in 1955 at Seventh and Robert Streets – under a mailbox (chest had been magnetized)
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Tim,
It was also found in 1959 at Warner Road – under a tree
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Coolio. I guess I just doubt they will do that again. But, your guess is as good as mine.
If they were to pull something like that this year, there is going to be a good chance it wont be found. In 55 no one knew what the 'rules' were, so they looked everywhere(I presume), but nowadays, you dont have people looking under mailboxes and such. We'll see.
Again, I know it has been found not in a park, but downtown? I guess it all depends on your definition of downtown.
Hmmm, Minnesota Fats, I'm not sure if your percentages are just for interest or if they're meant to make a point. If the point is that they are all low numbers, that's only natural as there is no hiding place with a high number. Highland is the place its been at the most and that only rates a 10%.
As for your top picks:
Downtown St. Paul (not in a park): Its been quite a while since it was not in a park. Long enough to imply that it may never be outside of a park again. Of course we don't know that for sure, but in my mind it creates enough doubt that I would put such a possibility at the bottom of my list rather than the top.
Phalen: I have this towards the bottom of my Top 10 because there is still some question about it being closed at night.
Wakefield: The argument here is similar to the not-in-a-park argument above. Its been something like 12 years since it was outside of St. Paul. Is that just a coincidence or did someone decide at some point that it will never be outside of St. Paul again? Again we may never know unless it does appear outside the city. Also, they may not want to risk lawsuits with suburban cities. And I can't remember, is this park in West St. Paul or is this the one in Maplewood that Maplewood almost sued over the last time it was there? If its in Maplewood, I would put this park dead last on my list.
Battle Creek: A good possibility, though its only been 6 years since it was there last.
Ramsey County (not in a park): Combine the above two arguments.
Today's factoid:
The medallion has either been inside somthing 48% of the time, attached to something 24%, in nothing 20% of the time, or wrapped in somthing 8% of the time.
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Well not to mention 1955 or 59 being a bit less populous maybe? I don't see them sticking it to a light pole or something in the middle of downtown today or out in a burb for that matter...simpler rules for a simpler time :)
Besides, that question will probably be answered in the first clue since it usually mentions a park and generally mentions St. Paul. If it doesn't then that expands the possibilities.
Allison- I think that someone told me that Hidden FAlls also has a gate, and it is shut at night, I can't remember who though.
oh, by the way JOE.
Allison,
The percentages are just a point of interest.
I went with downtown St. Paul based on few things such as it is the 50 year anniversary, nostalgic gut feeling.
Phalen: I don't see time as a factor and I beleive it is open until 10:00 pm.
Wakefield Lake Park: Pure guess....no reason why
Battle Creek: It's close to my home.
Ramsey County (not in a park): See St. Paul argument.
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Actually Tim, I think I heard that also about Hidden Falls, though have never experienced it. (At Phalen I went for quite a walk last year). It was hidden there just back in 1993 whereas Phalen was like 1985 or something. I don't know, maybe I'm underestimating Phalen. What would be odd about that though is the last time it was in Phalen, it had been in Newell the year before. I guess I have a little trouble believing history will repeat itself like that.
Allison,
It was in Phalen (1983) and then Newell (1984)
Well, gates just won't do. What do ya know about Crosby Farm? Seems to have less stuff, but they could lead us to HF, and then throw us for a loop.
Adios Amigos!!!!!!!
Next time I am on this board it will be Saturday!!!! I know there is something going on Saturday, but I just can't remember what. Anyhoo, see y'alls later!
Oops, I thought Phalen was after Newell. Well so much for that argument.
I guess it was Kellogg that followed Newell back in the 80's. Maybe I should move Kellogg down the list then, especially now that they have all those lights there.
Allison,
I just checked out your Yahoo! Club...very nice. I see you already had the links that I posted earlier, sorry for the double post.
Best regards,
Minnesota Fats
Well then this would be my top 5:
4 big ones, and one little one.
That's alright, you had a couple I didn't and I have a couple you didn't. Some are a bit more obvious than others and thus likely to appear on a lot of lists. Thanks for the compliment though.
The only gate at Phalen - but it won't be there this year as it was there last year and they moved it to Newell - is the one on the main drive and ittiz for cars not folks. Folks can still walk all over that ding-dang park and Allison and I can attest to that. He covered the north/north east part last year and I covered the west section. Jake was also there. You can get in if you want. You just can't drive in thru the main gate past 10:00 PM. So?
Walk around the gate!
Green, AW and Jake....breakin' the law, breakin' the law...lol :) As if any gate short of electrified razor wire is going to keep treasure hunters out of a park :)
Bax! We didn't break a single law! LOL!!! Allison parked way way up north in the parking area and hoofed it in, down to the beach area. Not a law broken.
I parked along by the houses, across from retirement community-like place and hoofed it in a tiny bit (nowhere near as far or as long as Allison).
And DDY knows electricity. He could "ace" the electrified razor wire gate in a heart beat! So not even that's gonna keep out these Diggers!
:D
Haven't been in for a while, and I'm not going through old messages. Do any other coolercrew members feel offended that a commercial on the radio is telling people to visit us here so that can get all of the dirt on the clues from the tresure hunting pros?? I'm sure we all appreciate the compliment of being pros, but do you want all of KDWB's listeners invading the park cuz they don't have a clue as to what the hunt is but know that there is money involved?? Personally I'd have to say that my skills and thoughts won't be shared with the entire twin cities. Good Luck to all and I'll see everyone in the park when it shall be diggin time!!
Who's to say that one/some o'those KDWB listeners won't have a good handle on noodling - maybe even better than some already here - and share their knowledge?
This is a public message board - open to all - and I believe the general concensus has always been, "The More, The Merrier!" At least that's always proven true: the more that come in here and share, the merrier and funner things get.
And I second that! We are an online community - open to the public - not some exclusive hotsy totsy know-it-alls.
Just breezing through - first to dinner with daughter and then north.
Daughter will be with us tomorrow night...she might even actually do some hunting this year...which is a first since the earmuffs incident.
Howdy, Ter. Give Daught a hug and kiss for moi! Will be good seeing her again. I'm STILL wearing her blue jeans!!!
Joe!
I'll tell her!
I'll check back in after we get north.
Only 25 more hours!!!
I see your point, and do understand that it is open to all, and it's my decision. But I can also see the hunt turning into a teen drinking/party fest for money as well, and I would rather not help them find the right park. I really don't want the hunt to get too big and out of control and have this year be the last, that's my concern. Maybe I'm overreacting to it, but when the commercial came on at work today and the other people that heard it only heard 10,000, and started asking others, I realized/think it is a negative thing more than positive.
Hi! I've enjoyed trying to work the clues people have been fabricating. Allison mentioned that his quiz from last year was based on the 2nd edition of the hunter's guide. Is there a 3rd edition out now? Any info would be helpful! Only 1 more day!!!! =)
Tiny, I don't think there's a third addition yet... But if you'll be at McGovern's tomorrow nite, you can ask the author yourself. Too, you can beg him to continue doing updates... He was grumbling last year that ittiz so hard to update the book and he's tired o'counting all the trees! We threatened him with bodily harm if he ever quit!
Terry, you're going up north just to come back again tomorrow? I suppose you have to make that one last trip rather than have three weeks between visits.
Regalman- I think you have some good points. No one is interested in seeing the hunt get so chaotic and destructive that it gets cancelled. And a lot of people would just as soon not have the competition. But the PP does have the right to promote itself and this event to help pay for it. I'm sure you've noticed they now have advertising at the top of the page which they never did before. Personally I still plan on discussing things, but I think I'm more likely to post my best guesses in my Yahoo club instead of here.
green, electrified fences are real easy to get around. an alligator clip attached to something grounded to take out the juice, and well, the rest is history. besides, they could only throw up so much razorwire before the park stopped looking like a park, and more like a prison.
Just checking in before heading out to dinner. While I share people's concern that the prize may have gotten too big, I am not too worried. After all, most of the early guesses I put on here are wrong (not on purpose, they just are wrong), and by the time we get it narrowed down to a park, even the offline community seems to know it through radio, TV, etc. I agree with an earlier poster--the fun on this board is not to try to gain "secret" info--it's to be the guy whose early wild guess turns out to be right!!!!
Note--I put down "I Hope the Newell hysteria does not return this year" somewhere in the 120's on this board!!!!
this year, dd, i'm positive it will be in plain sight in the frog's mouth :).
Have been reading the 1998 posts since about 6..... must have been a fun hunt!!! Didn't realize just how clever those particular clues were!
Electric Duane and I will definitely be stopping by tomorrow at McGovern's. We look forward to seeing everyone there!
Hey everyone! I'm thinking with it being the 50th Anniversary, they will do something special (well, duh!). What do you think the chances are it will be in Highland Park? Highland Park is a rather large park as opposed to placing it in a small park. But, Ma Press may take advantage of this, b/c I bet they want this hunt to be remembered. Of course that's just my opinion, I may be wrong...
- Derick Davis
P.S. People are chatting in the chatroom at my site as we speak! www.medallionhunt.8k.com NO USER LOGIN REQ!
Hello from the star-filled up north!
Things have been a bit quieter here tonight. Must be all the anticipation.
Now to go find that darned book!
Hello all, finally enjoying a little peace and quiet around our house. Kids are all in bed (for the moment, at least).
Terry, hope you find your book!
I've heard the commercials referencing the cooler crew, too - and I think it's TOO COOL! Dad was trying to talk to me last night, trying to have a *real* conversation (which come few and far between) about some serious stuff with his job....and I had to shush him, because I was hearing this on the radio!
hello and goodnight to all
Guide - I think I'll need to buy another one. Save me one, please!
DRINKS FOR ALL MY FRENDES
PARTY ?????????