But then again is it not possible that the 2001 hunt went longer because I kept saying it was definitely NOT at Como (which was my honest opinion)?
Now I'll grant that some people don't even try to figure out the clues. They just want to figure out where everyone else is digging and follow the crowd. But there are still lots of opinions out there as to what the clues mean and trying to figure out which one is correct is still a challenge.
As for last year, if that mother and son hadn't found it, someone else would have probably on that same day. By Sunday the snow had melted to a point that it would have been in plain sight and you could have just walked up to it and said "Oh, there it is." In Conway on the other hand I think it was via the Cooler that a lot of people made their way out there and it still went to 11 clues.
Who knows what will happen this year? Who will be right? Who will be wrong? How well will it be hidden? Who deserves to be in the inner circle and who doesn't? I don't know. We'll see what happens.
.....As for last year, if that mother and son hadn't found it, someone else would have probably on that same day. By Sunday the snow had melted to a point that it would have been in plain sight and you could have just walked up to it and said "Oh, there it is." ....
I agree that anyone could've found it that day, but the fact is that it was someone without a button who was led there by the wisdom of others. They are not impressed with the cunning interpretations as much as they are inclined to act on them. Our open discussions leave them no doubt that they need to put on their coats and get in their car - we've narrowed it down for them and increased their odds. They could care less who we all are and how smart we may be...they are after our treasure.
Dont matter weather you like to share ideas with other or not.People who dont like to share have the same odds of people who do share AND people who have no clue!
If the coin is hidden well dont matter who figures out the clues the best cause that will NEVER lead you right to the treasure spot, yes the park but the spot NO.I feel its luck. (I know that sounds bad but)
Bottom line is it is supposed to be FUN FUN! (and the more people the better,"I found the coin and look theres over 1000 people out here") but i guess it could also be cool if you were the only one in the park and no one had been there before!
Fun...shit. This is a tradition and an obsession for too many people to be simply cast aside as a fun way to meet people. Its a treasure hunt! A thousand people in the park is really neat, but a thousand Aaron Niedorfs could give a rats %@@ that you're there with them. A thousand people in the park with registered buttons is what you really want.
Don't be foolish, they could care less that we have web sites with park photos or that I have a book of maps. It doesn't matter, they're not impressed. In fact, considering the effort we spend on this marquee event, they probably think we're morons to be so eager to give them easy answers.
If it comes down to LUCK, then I hope they are all looking in the fairgrounds, not at the park I'm in.
I hunt for a number of reasons. First and foremost it's an obsession...not so much about digging in snow in the cold...if that was it, I'd volunteer to shovel everyone's walks when it snows...and you won't see me doing that. The obsession comes from noodling the clues and figuring which park it's in...and then what part of that park hides the treasure.
It's the thought of perhaps getting lucky enough to put your shovel down in the right spot. Yup. It's luck. Noodling can get you to the park, but that shovel, pick, whatever needs to land in the right spot and then you need to be aware enough to know you hit something.
It's digging and chopping through ice and snow till your muscles burn and then take a break and listen to the thousands of others while they chop. It's my hope every year to see and hear that locust time of the hunt.
It's getting a chuckle out of those that don't get clue number one and want to look in Minneapolis.
It's tradition. For me it's a life long thing.
Part of that tradition has been to noodle clues with friends and family. Since about 1996 when the PP folks had a board for doing just that, it has expanded the number of friends to noodle clues with, share a laugh or two and team up with in the parks now and again.
Yup. It's a hunt for $10,000. But after living through metal detectors, subzero miserable hunts, fake medallions, no snow, feet of snow, ice, rain and whining little kids with us, I'm in it for the fun. The money would be nice, but in the end, I'd do it if there wasn't any money.
1. Whenever a snow emergency is declared, follow the snowplows around and completely dig out all the cars they plow in.
2. As a big storm is about to hit, stand on your front steps with your back to the yard. Toss your car keys over your shoulder. Go back inside and then go find them the next day.
3. Read up on Occam's Razor (All else being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the correct one).
4. Do every word jumble, crossword puzzle, and search-a-word you can get your hands on.
5. Make a list of all the things you can do with $10,000.
6. Turn off the heat in your home for 16 hours a day.
7. Only sleep three hours a night.
8. Move all the snow from your back yard to your front yard.
9. Spend all night on the Internet with total strangers discussing who killed JFK.
10. Commit the Cooler Crew and Treasure Hunter's Guide Websites to memory.
I think theres a little excess testosterone in the air.
Bottom line is everyone has there own way of going about the hunt, and thats fine. I myself plan to share my ideas on this board and the other board equally, I feel no need to hold back. At the same time I respect the rights of others to share their thoughts or not, and won't post anything not my own on the other board. But thats me, and thats my choice. Do I expect others to do the same? No, because everyones different, and I respect that.
I agree Terry, this IS an interesting topic. I tend to agree with most of the other posters here in that noodling the clues is just as much fun, if not more, than actually going out and digging. I've been looking for this thing for 25 years, as I'm sure a few of you have as well, and after all these years I've come to realize that finding the thing is nothing more than chance once you get the park down. I can count on one hand in all those years where the actual hiding spot lines up all the clues like the 'Big W'. The lame answers always seem to be very generic in nature and for good reason. I also think that being the 1st one to post a meaning of a clue is in itself part of the fun. Being older now, I really don't have the physical drive as lets say, Tim, but I did at one time. And it was fun. It's just a different kind of fun now where I use more brains then brawn. If someone finds it before I get my fat ass out digging, good for them. I wouldn't feel any regret because I didn't get out that year because I didn't feel it was the right time for me. Whomever finds it, deserves it fare and square. Regardless of how they got their information. Good for them. Too bad for me, but good for them. There is so much more to this thing than finding it. As a few of us have said before in here, you can have a pretty good idea if it comes up missing, it will be in one of our houses stashed away somewhere real good.
ya know, i was just thinking. are we getting to the point yet where we start leaving the lights on, the door unlocked, and the fridge restocked for people yet?
Believe me....if I were lucky enough to find it, I would turn it in. I certainly understand the wanting to keep it, but for me, it's part of the tradition. The same coin year after year. When I find it, it will be the same one that those before me found...and whoever finds it next will find the same one I did. I like that continuity.
i'd turn it in, but only after taking the most scenic route to the pp possible, during which time my partner in crime (thanks for the term, me2) would be making careful detail drawings/rubbings of it and getting accurate dimensions of it so as to make decoys for the future :)
Its not too cold, the windows were iced on the car today and a few flakes of snow. But the snow on the ground is slowly dwindling, even up here it doesn't really feel like winter.
well you'd sorta be telling the truth :) that's almost one of those things where it'd be nice to have some rtv rubber there to make a mold of the thing. then you could cast as many as you wanted. hmm. i think we may have just stumbled across the perfect mock hunt coin.
Remember Kathy? The last Como finder? She was probably the best looking finder in the history of the hunt. Usually folks look like Elmer Fudd for the PP photos.
I think you are the pp clue writer & the spotter in disguise :)
ok- Is 'Cooler Crew' copywritten by the Pioneer Press?
wow
But then again is it not possible that the 2001 hunt went longer because I kept saying it was definitely NOT at Como (which was my honest opinion)?
Now I'll grant that some people don't even try to figure out the clues. They just want to figure out where everyone else is digging and follow the crowd. But there are still lots of opinions out there as to what the clues mean and trying to figure out which one is correct is still a challenge.
As for last year, if that mother and son hadn't found it, someone else would have probably on that same day. By Sunday the snow had melted to a point that it would have been in plain sight and you could have just walked up to it and said "Oh, there it is." In Conway on the other hand I think it was via the Cooler that a lot of people made their way out there and it still went to 11 clues.
Who knows what will happen this year? Who will be right? Who will be wrong? How well will it be hidden? Who deserves to be in the inner circle and who doesn't? I don't know. We'll see what happens.
.....As for last year, if that mother and son hadn't found it, someone else would have probably on that same day. By Sunday the snow had melted to a point that it would have been in plain sight and you could have just walked up to it and said "Oh, there it is." ....
I agree that anyone could've found it that day, but the fact is that it was someone without a button who was led there by the wisdom of others. They are not impressed with the cunning interpretations as much as they are inclined to act on them. Our open discussions leave them no doubt that they need to put on their coats and get in their car - we've narrowed it down for them and increased their odds. They could care less who we all are and how smart we may be...they are after our treasure.
Yeppers me2!
There are 2 liitle diggers!
Dont matter weather you like to share ideas with other or not.People who dont like to share have the same odds of people who do share AND people who have no clue!
If the coin is hidden well dont matter who figures out the clues the best cause that will NEVER lead you right to the treasure spot, yes the park but the spot NO.I feel its luck. (I know that sounds bad but)
Bottom line is it is supposed to be FUN FUN!
(and the more people the better,"I found the coin and look theres over 1000 people out here") but i guess it could also be cool if you were the only one in the park and no one had been there before!
It will be more fun when I find it.
Fun...shit. This is a tradition and an obsession for too many people to be simply cast aside as a fun way to meet people. Its a treasure hunt! A thousand people in the park is really neat, but a thousand Aaron Niedorfs could give a rats %@@ that you're there with them. A thousand people in the park with registered buttons is what you really want.
Don't be foolish, they could care less that we have web sites with park photos or that I have a book of maps. It doesn't matter, they're not impressed. In fact, considering the effort we spend on this marquee event, they probably think we're morons to be so eager to give them easy answers.
If it comes down to LUCK, then I hope they are all looking in the fairgrounds, not at the park I'm in.
You should start a poll ares on---
If the Pioneer Press Medallion Hunt finder(S)did not get money would you still partake.
a big
THANK YOU
to Marley, ares and Greg !
Interesting discussion.
I hunt for a number of reasons. First and foremost it's an obsession...not so much about digging in snow in the cold...if that was it, I'd volunteer to shovel everyone's walks when it snows...and you won't see me doing that. The obsession comes from noodling the clues and figuring which park it's in...and then what part of that park hides the treasure.
It's the thought of perhaps getting lucky enough to put your shovel down in the right spot. Yup. It's luck. Noodling can get you to the park, but that shovel, pick, whatever needs to land in the right spot and then you need to be aware enough to know you hit something.
It's digging and chopping through ice and snow till your muscles burn and then take a break and listen to the thousands of others while they chop. It's my hope every year to see and hear that locust time of the hunt.
It's getting a chuckle out of those that don't get clue number one and want to look in Minneapolis.
It's tradition. For me it's a life long thing.
Part of that tradition has been to noodle clues with friends and family. Since about 1996 when the PP folks had a board for doing just that, it has expanded the number of friends to noodle clues with, share a laugh or two and team up with in the parks now and again.
Yup. It's a hunt for $10,000. But after living through metal detectors, subzero miserable hunts, fake medallions, no snow, feet of snow, ice, rain and whining little kids with us, I'm in it for the fun. The money would be nice, but in the end, I'd do it if there wasn't any money.
Thanks Allison:
Treasure Hunter Training Program
1. Whenever a snow emergency is declared, follow the snowplows around and completely dig out all the cars they plow in.
2. As a big storm is about to hit, stand on your front steps with your back to the yard. Toss your car keys over your shoulder. Go back inside and then go find them the next day.
3. Read up on Occam's Razor (All else being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the correct one).
4. Do every word jumble, crossword puzzle, and search-a-word you can get your hands on.
5. Make a list of all the things you can do with $10,000.
6. Turn off the heat in your home for 16 hours a day.
7. Only sleep three hours a night.
8. Move all the snow from your back yard to your front yard.
9. Spend all night on the Internet with total strangers discussing who killed JFK.
10. Commit the Cooler Crew and Treasure Hunter's Guide Websites to memory.
Well said Terry!
I think theres a little excess testosterone in the air.
Bottom line is everyone has there own way of going about the hunt, and thats fine. I myself plan to share my ideas on this board and the other board equally, I feel no need to hold back. At the same time I respect the rights of others to share their thoughts or not, and won't post anything not my own on the other board. But thats me, and thats my choice. Do I expect others to do the same? No, because everyones different, and I respect that.
Nice Job AW and for posting Ian. Boy you hit it on the head. I especially liked #8. Move all the snow from your back yard to your front yard.
LOL
I agree Terry, this IS an interesting topic. I tend to agree with most of the other posters here in that noodling the clues is just as much fun, if not more, than actually going out and digging. I've been looking for this thing for 25 years, as I'm sure a few of you have as well, and after all these years I've come to realize that finding the thing is nothing more than chance once you get the park down. I can count on one hand in all those years where the actual hiding spot lines up all the clues like the 'Big W'. The lame answers always seem to be very generic in nature and for good reason. I also think that being the 1st one to post a meaning of a clue is in itself part of the fun. Being older now, I really don't have the physical drive as lets say, Tim, but I did at one time. And it was fun. It's just a different kind of fun now where I use more brains then brawn. If someone finds it before I get my fat ass out digging, good for them. I wouldn't feel any regret because I didn't get out that year because I didn't feel it was the right time for me. Whomever finds it, deserves it fare and square. Regardless of how they got their information. Good for them. Too bad for me, but good for them. There is so much more to this thing than finding it. As a few of us have said before in here, you can have a pretty good idea if it comes up missing, it will be in one of our houses stashed away somewhere real good.
ya know, i was just thinking. are we getting to the point yet where we start leaving the lights on, the door unlocked, and the fridge restocked for people yet?
Yeah?
i heard via the grapevine that he was at buggs on new years. but i haven't seen him since friday nite his last hunt.
Believe me....if I were lucky enough to find it, I would turn it in. I certainly understand the wanting to keep it, but for me, it's part of the tradition. The same coin year after year. When I find it, it will be the same one that those before me found...and whoever finds it next will find the same one I did. I like that continuity.
Yep I think were all right! Everyone is different.
I know I would turn it in for the same reason!
Knowing that people I know would give me the ten grand for it I still would turn it in.
He was here earlier today,I seen his name!
Yeah. It's sort of like touching history and then passing it on.
Me too Ter, no questions asked I would turn it in. Marley, on the other hand, he'd turn it in but he'd think about keeping it first!
Ok, so I was wrong, he'd turn it in :)
Yeah but you know the name thing! Jake knows what I mean.
i'd turn it in, but only after taking the most scenic route to the pp possible, during which time my partner in crime (thanks for the term, me2) would be making careful detail drawings/rubbings of it and getting accurate dimensions of it so as to make decoys for the future :)
So here's hoping for some snow!
How's the weather up north, Artemis? Snowy? Icy? Cold? We didn't get up there this weekend due to weird working schedules in this house.
Oh I think I would take it home for a bit and um set up the photo shop! : > )
Yeah hows the weather Art?
ares - You wouldn't be the first or last I'm sure.
and then you'd lose, marley, because the spotters would know you didn't go straight to the pp :)
Nope! Newell guy went home for like 2 hours.
joe!
Its not too cold, the windows were iced on the car today and a few flakes of snow. But the snow on the ground is slowly dwindling, even up here it doesn't really feel like winter.
I know he lives right there. But I would say "I had to get ready for the press pictures" (yeah right)
well you'd sorta be telling the truth :) that's almost one of those things where it'd be nice to have some rtv rubber there to make a mold of the thing. then you could cast as many as you wanted. hmm. i think we may have just stumbled across the perfect mock hunt coin.
Remember Kathy? The last Como finder? She was probably the best looking finder in the history of the hunt. Usually folks look like Elmer Fudd for the PP photos.
lol
i suppose i'd actually have to wear the ares costime. laptop sneeze guard and everything, huh?
I would think you could wear whatever costime you want ares.
It's time to hit the sheets here.
Take care!
Goodnight and SCDs to coolerheads everywhere!
One thing thats gonna suck this year, when me n Shaggs find it, is if they make us wash our makeup off, when we go to the PP. That would blow.
time to hit the sheets here too. nite all.
Hey, if the Jakenator was here he'd at least say hi , don't ya think?