Skip to main content

2005 Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt

Submitted by THX 1138 on

The Treasure Has Been Found!

Lucky_Strikes

Nice job on the clues so far Allison. Very interesting and I like that every clue fits many parks, lol. I would hate for the casino chip to be found to soon, although I was thinking I would get off my lazy behind and go pick it up tonight....awwww maybe tomorrow, lol!

Attachment
Thu, 03/10/2005 - 10:26 PM Permalink
Lucky_Strikes

How do I put a picture next to my name like everybody else has?

Thu, 03/10/2005 - 10:28 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

You click on "Your Preferences" and there's a place in there to add the picture.

Thu, 03/10/2005 - 10:32 PM Permalink
me2

Hi Lucky_Strikes.....

go down to almost the bottom of the page to "PFTOOLS"
click on "Your Preferences"
then you can scroll to the button that says "BROWSE" and click on it to find a picture in your computer.

Thu, 03/10/2005 - 10:40 PM Permalink
OTiS

Hmmmmm.....

Thu, 03/10/2005 - 11:38 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey


OT 3/10/05 7:45pm


Middle=Center   There are lots of rec centers.


I woke up at 4 am (I called in sick last night) with this same thought. Why didn't I think of it last night? Clue 4 says midway which is also center. any anagrams for transfix?
Also I'm thinking about w 7th and HWY 5 and I35 which goes back to Crosby. They are not  factors of 36

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 3:18 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

down and dirty is a poker term

Factors of 36 are 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 12, 18.
Isolated Michigan cities = Battle Creek?
Golf Courses have 9 and 18 hole courses, both factors of 36. Maybe it is not in a park with a golf course?
HOMER MICHIGAN - piss ant town
crosby out of the question
The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books."-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Middle=Center There are lots of rec centers
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow-
That would make one believe it's not at Marry 'em either.
The middle is midway, center, half way...and down and dirty is telling us it's on the ground and perhaps in the dirt.
Or, down and dirty means it is down a hill and you might get dirty getting down to where the chip is.


[Edited by Michele30 on Mar 11, 2005 at 02:25am.]

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 3:24 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

TRANSFIX RAFTS NIX FRATS NIX RANTS FIX 

<BOTTOMLINKS>

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 3:29 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

anagrams for on the middle

HIDDEN MOTEL
MODELED THIN
MODELED HINT
HIDED ELM NOT
HIDDEN EM LOT
HIDDEN ME LOT
MIDDLE HE NOT
DINED ELM HOT
NODDLE HE TIM
NODDLE EH TIM
NODDLE THE MI
DOLED THEM IN
DOLED HEN TIM
DOLED EM THIN
DOLED EM HINT
DOLED ME THIN
DOLED ME HINT
DILDO THEN ME
DILDO THE MEN
DIDNT HOE ELM
ODD HELMET IN
ODD HELEN TIM
ODD THEME NIL
ODD HE ELM TIN
ODD HE MELT IN
ODD EH ELM TIN
ODD EH MEN LIT
ODD THINE ELM
ODD THEM NEIL
ODD THEM LINE
ODD THEN LIME
ODD THEN MILE
ODD THE ELM IN
ODD ELM TEN HI
MELTED HID ON
DEEM OLD THIN
DEEM OLD HINT
NEED HOLD TIM
NEED MILD THO
NEED MILD HOT
HELD MED IN TO
HELD MED INTO
HELD DOME TIN
HELD DEMO TIN
HOLED END TIM
LINED MED THO
LINED MED HOT
LINED DO THEM
MED HID NE LOT

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 4:00 AM Permalink
OTiS

3M you are too good at this.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 5:02 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

3M you are too good at this.

coulda fooled me...

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 5:09 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I just wanna know where to go look today.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 5:10 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

How about NW Cono Rec Center?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 5:11 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey


[Edited by Michele30 on Mar 11, 2005 at 04:12am.]

Attachment
Fri, 03/11/2005 - 5:12 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Quotes from the rabbit:


I'd say maybe 70% of what's in the clues has been brought up somewhere at some point. Of the remaining 30%, some of that is stuff that just simply isn't going to make any sense until later. There are still a few things to be figured out though. -AW


lots of good ideas (and lots of wrong ones too as they can't all be right). So it's not a matter of people not figuring out the clues. It's a matter of who's going to put all the pieces together in the right way? So far I would say things are going pretty much as planned. ;-) -AW



The question you have to always ask yourself is, "If this is what the clue means, what does that tell me?" -AW


Again, I would say most of the right answers have been said by someone at some point. Picking out the right ones and then putting them together in the right way is the real trick. -AW



Here's something else to rattle your brain. If you did figure it out, do you believe you would realize you had figured it out?-AW

 
Maybe you (and everyone) should put some effort into looking over what's been thrown out there already and what out of that would make sense instead of looking for more new directions to go into. Not that there aren't some things to be figured out yet, but I don't think they will help you as much as taking some things that have been mentioned already and pushing them a little further. Which is probably true of most hunts. I know in the past, the correct answer to just about every clue was mentioned within the first hour the clue came out and most of the noodles after that were in directions too wild to be useful. -AW



Hmmm, I thought this clue would really clear things up for someone. Although I suppose if it did, they wouldn't necessarily be posting about it. -AW

 



clue1
Come make your bet on the trickiest hunt yet
As you sometimes take not one step, but two.
You'll be all set and not have to get wet
If the same, only different is what you do


A treasure renowned, one lost, another found
Ponder if we were the animals as you stroll
To be treasure bound, search on the ground
And score a payday if you make a field goal.


jakes found med at hidden falls 2003
same only different means crosby, but different part / not in trees but still in middle of nowhere without trees.
maybe 2 steps off of bike path or 2 parks/crosby/HF
Don't get wet means not by the river
there wer 2 mock hunts in 2003 when the 2nd was at HF
if we were the animals where would we go? On the ground?
instead of going in the middle of nowhere in the trees to a big tree

go to the middle of nowhere in the middle of a feild with no trees

same only different



In 2003 the treasure was hidden in Battle Creek in a spot Tim and I had scouted out for a hunt a couple of years earlier. Jake found that one again. Later in 2003 I did another hunt that was in Hidden Falls.-AW



Clue #2


A Bicycle ride will be your guide
To what you are looking for
And in the park a moment of dark
Will hold the way to keep score

A moment of dark is a shadow. The only shadow he can predict is the shadow from the bridge between crosby and hidden falls. If I was an animal I would seek shelter there in a storm.
there is a bike path there.
score a payday and score a feild goal. Score twice? Music score?Crosby as in CSN&Y? that would be twice for crosby.
bicylce= deck of cards
And in the first clue he says "trickiest". Lots of card games use the term trick. Tricky is putting it in the same park.
the way to keep score= poker chips means under the bridge/moment of dark is the poker chip.
Eclipse gum wrapper?


Clue #3
The spinning roulette wheel is a hint to the deal
As is a famous west coast educational place
Lucifer’s lair helps reveal what we sought to conceal
Seek unmapped terrain and it will make you an ace.

Stanford? Berkley
Not in mappys book? This area is unmapped.
reveal=not hidden=Hidden Falls? that 2 steps?
conceal=hidden/falls
Stanford Court runs into East Mississippi River Blvd. That part of the river bluff isn't mapped in the THG.
ACE--- Pilot /airport?



Rabbit Quote at this point in hunt:
I'd say maybe 70% of what's in the clues has been brought up somewhere at some point. Of the remaining 30%, some of that is stuff that just simply isn't going to make any sense until later. There are still a few things to be figured out though. -AW


Clue #4
Head west going straight from sides numbering eight
Around midway enjoy some barbecued cuisine.
Look south of Crosby’s gate and you’ll do simply great
If you find you can roughly duplicate this scene.

west of stop(side numbering 8) at top of crosby is hidden falls.
South of crosbys gate is down the hill to the area under the bridge between crosby/hidden falls. He came up with this idea during the crosby hunt also.
 an 8 sided planter at crosby?
a stop sign
a bbq place by crosby
If you go WEST from the eight sided planter in Crosby you'll come across the grills about halfway between the planter and the gate
Not one park, but 2? As in crosby/hidden falls? Stay away from the water (not cliff or waters edge) Same only different part of the park (crosby)
Famous Dave's Barbeque
1930 West 7th Street
If you find you can roughly duplicate this scene.
trying to tell you to duplicate what you would do at one park (crosby) in another with similar traits?
7 is a lucky number in gambling....7th st.
Crosby's mansion was located near the center of the estate, at what is today the southeast corner of Woodlawn Boulevard and Stanford Court.
Stanford?

Today, virtually all traces of the estate have been obliterated except for one notable survivor -- the eponymous stone bridge (located on private property) that visitors once passed over on their way to the great house where Oliver Crosby lived, if only for a very few years, what must have been the life of his dreams.


The Iron gate is at como, not the stone bridge.
Look south of Crosby’s gate and you’ll do simply great
If you find you can roughly duplicate this scene.
It's rough terrain going south from the top of crosby gate down the hill
A couple things to remember - 1) AW called Hidden Falls as the park this year, before he changed his mind to Crosby. 2) Leland runs into Crosby (Stanford U. is named after Leland Stanford). 3) If you imagine the gate at Shepard at Crosby as being north (up), then under it would be south. I believe that is the space between Crosby and Hidden Falls.
Oh, one more thing - AW loves Iris park. Porky's (BBQ) is right next door and is approximately south of the Crosby gate
ACE=Pilot=Airport ---great view from CROSBY south of the gate...
in a dark place--hole..cave??
There is a cave between crosby and hidden falls also
"not one park"


 

Another few quotes from rabbit at this point in hunt:




lots of good ideas (and lots of wrong ones too as they can't all be right). So it's not a matter of people not figuring out the clues. It's a matter of who's going to put all the pieces together in the right way? So far I would say things are going pretty much as planned. ;-) -AW



The question you have to always ask yourself is, "If this is what the clue means, what does that tell me?" -AW

Again, I would say most of the right answers have been said by someone at some point. Picking out the right ones and then putting them together in the right way is the real trick. -AW



Here's something else to rattle your brain. If you did figure it out, do you believe you would realize you had figured it out?-AW

 
Maybe you (and everyone) should put some effort into looking over what's been thrown out there already and what out of that would make sense instead of looking for more new directions to go into. Not that there aren't some things to be figured out yet, but I don't think they will help you as much as taking some things that have been mentioned already and pushing them a little further. Which is probably true of most hunts. I know in the past, the correct answer to just about every clue was mentioned within the first hour the clue came out and most of the noodles after that were in directions too wild to be useful. -AW



Clue #5
Neither factors of thirty-six, nor a city in the Michigan sticks,
Nor quoting all the sweet serenity of books
Will show what this park depicts. Rather on the middle transfix.
Then down and dirty is how a wise hunter looks.


down and dirty is a poker term
Factors of 36 are 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 12, 18.
West 7th and HWY 5 and I 35 are NOT factors of 36
Isolated Michigan cities = Battle Creek? Means not there at BC
Golf Courses have 9 and 18 hole courses, both factors of 36. Maybe it is not in a park with a golf course? No golf course at crosby/HF
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow eliminates BC/That would make one believe it's not at Marry 'em either
The middle is midway, center, half way...and down and dirty is telling us it's on the ground and perhaps in the dirt.
Or, down and dirty means it is down a hill and you might get dirty getting down to where the chip is.
Longfellow wrote about Minnehaha as well so rule that out.




Another rabbit quote at this point:


Hmmm, I thought this clue would really clear things up for someone. Although I suppose if it did, they wouldn't necessarily be posting about it. -AW

so far nobody (including me) has posted anymore about crosby and hidden falls after clue 5 and the Rabbit says this? Who is this someone? Is he worried that no one posted about the middle of crosby/HF?
That it's in the middle of these 2 parks (Rather on the middle transfix) and down the hill from the enterance (Then down and dirty is how a wise hunter looks)

Just my thought about if it is there, which I'm not saying it is at this point. But if you pick out certain things we have said (and the rabbitts responses) it can make a complelling case.

Sorry this post is so long, but nobody else is here this morning. : )


[Edited 5 times. Most recently by Michele30 on Mar 11, 2005 at 05:27am.]

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:11 AM Permalink
mucluck

Thanks 3M  good job on the gathering of info...I actually still like that area as well, unfortunatly no more hunting for me til Sunday.  Going up north with a couple of my girliefriends. 

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:21 AM Permalink
mucluck

Oh, and I like the perty colors :)

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:21 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I thought the colors would help the layout and make it a little easier to read. I'm not very good at writing.

That info was gathered from everbody in this thread.

Enjoy your trip Mucluck!

Hopefully we'll have some better clues by Sunday. I always say that, and the weekend clues always suck for me. (at least in the PP hunts)

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:36 AM Permalink
Terry

Mikey - good noodling!

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:43 AM Permalink
KITCH

I really hate to point this out...
Its been bugging me ALL NIGHT...I seriously am on about 3 hrs of sleep...if that!!!!

"DOWN AND DIRTY" is a gambling term of the "river" card!!!
(I've known it since the clue came out ---thought I'd figure it out)

I'm outta ideas with it!!! bugging the crap outta me!!!!

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:46 AM Permalink
KITCH

I've gotta run my girl to school...i'll be back online around 815ish...

MMM...hmmm...."down and dirty" refers to crosby/hidden falls....

but last night night when I was walking...I just couldn't figure out the BBQ thing.....hmmmm

gotta rethink...

(did find a stop sign on the bike trail...)

hmmmm.....south of the gates...could just mean down!!!!

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:50 AM Permalink
KITCH

I'm having a hard time cuz...I can't find my dart board!! At this point I'd be better off.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:53 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I hope I'm not leading anybody away with my post. I was just trying to do what the rabitt keeps saying we should do, and I just picked that park to do it with 1st.

Some one should do it with cono. Just pick out the cono thoughts.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 6:56 AM Permalink
me2

nice collection 3M.

I am on no more than 4 hours of sleep. 

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:05 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

seems like I'm the only one that slept last night. And thats only because I called in sick to work.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:10 AM Permalink
OT

Down and dirty is also the final hole card dealt in seven card stud.  Final hole being the 18th?  Except 18 is a factor of 36.  Hmmmmm

[Edited by on Mar 11, 2005 at 06:23am.]

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:22 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Down and dirty is also the final hole card dealt in sevencard stud.

The end of west 7th?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:29 AM Permalink
me2

Isnt there a new golf course at Battle Creek?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:33 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

there is a new golf course... in maplewood.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:41 AM Permalink
me2

but isnt it called Battle Creek? or connecting to the park?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:42 AM Permalink
KITCH

Some one should do it with cono. Just pick out the cono thoughts.

OK

Clue #1

Come make your bet on the trickiest hunt yet.
As you sometimes take not one step, but two.
You’ll be all set and not have to get wet
If the same, only different is what you do.

A treasure renowned, one lost, another found
Ponder if we were the animals as you stroll
To be treasure bound, search on the ground
And score a payday if you make a field goal

Ponder the animals= zoo
field goal = 3? = ballfied # 3

A Bicycle ride will be your guide
To what you are looking for
And in the park a moment of dark
Will hold the way to keep score

bike trail near the "crosby EEE gates"
"park"--maybe park the bike
"will hold" -the bike rack near field 3?

The spinning roulette wheel is a hint to the deal
As is a famous west coast educational place
Lucifer’s lair helps reveal what we sought to conceal
Seek unmapped terrain and it will make you an ace.

If I'm right...I'm really improving on doing my huntsspinning wheel = rides.. clue 7 -2003 - Stanislaus = http://www.csustan.edu/in oakland
Lucifer's lair == castle at Mini-golf?
Ace = golfing term = where would you get an ace but a putt-putt.

Head west going straight from sides numbering eight
Around midway enjoy some barbecued cuisine.
Look south of Crosby’s gate and you’ll do simply great
If you find you can roughly duplicate this scene.

Octogon pavillion
bbq grill 2 feet off??
Crosby's estate EEE gate

Neither factors of thirty-six, nor a city in the Michigan sticks,
Nor quoting all the sweet serenity of books
Will show what this park depicts. Rather on the middle transfix.
Then down and dirty is how a wise hunter looks.

takes away a bunch of parks...
Middle transfix.... the trolley is fixed!!!

one other thing....
Thesaurus = trolley
Synonyms: caster, circuit, circulation, circumvolution, cycle, disk, drum, gyration, gyre, hoop, pivot, pulley, ratchet, revolution, ring, roll, roller, rotation, round, spin, trolley, turn, twirl, whirl

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:43 AM Permalink
me2


If I'm right...I'm really improving on doing my hunts

and if you're not right? ;) DOH!

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:50 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Thanks kitch.

 

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:53 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

sorry. it's not where the arrow is pointing. It's south of LOWER afton Rd

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 7:58 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I'm gonna get off my arse and go look today. Some where.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:00 AM Permalink
me2

ok, thats a bummer- Its Ponds of Battle Creek....I was hoping to make last nights clue ONLY about BC :(

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:06 AM Permalink
me2

but it looks to rule out every park with a golf course

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:06 AM Permalink
KITCH

crap...como's out ...then...PUTTPUTT count??

must...

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:07 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I hate to give out too many hints, but it seems to me you guys have dwelled on every phrase in clue 5 except one.

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:08 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Will show what this park depicts

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:10 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Clue #5

Neither factors of thirty-six, nor a city in the Michigan sticks,
Nor quoting all the sweet serenity of books
Will show what this park depicts. Rather on the middle transfix.
Then down and dirty is how a wise hunter looks

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:11 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

will show what it depicts (in the guide?)

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:13 AM Permalink
OT

Wise hunter?  Orion the Hunter?  Artemis?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:15 AM Permalink
KITCH

besides battle creek, mi

there is a
Horton, MI
Hancock, MI
Linwood, MI
Highland, MI
Conway, MI
Mears, MI
groveland, mi...real sticks

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:18 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

stone bridge was part of crosby and on page 38 of the 2nd edition guide it talks about zone 4 of hidden falls and the stone abutment of a bridge that is directly south (and below) of the crosby enterance. I think this is really crosby. This acually depicts 2 parks joined in the middle. There is also a cave there and the shadow of the existing  bridge

[Edited by Michele30 on Mar 11, 2005 at 07:26am.]

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:24 AM Permalink
KITCH

transfix ---

To pierce with or as if with a pointed weapon.
To fix fast; impale.
To render motionless, as with terror, amazement, or awe.

see I knew throwing a dart would be a heck of a lot simplier...

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:25 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

as with terror

tunnel of terror at crosby?

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:27 AM Permalink
KITCH

One reason I really don't like crosby...
I know it shouldn't matter but....

Its hard getting to that location.......with the gate close..ice....etc...

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:28 AM Permalink
KITCH

To render motionless

the trolley is stuck in time...

Fri, 03/11/2005 - 8:30 AM Permalink